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Is it possible to TRULY lock down the position of a text box on a doucment?
I mean, above and beyone the Format Text Box Layout tab Advanced Lock
Anchor/ Absolute position options? I have the little padlock icon on the
text box in the original template said documents are based on, but users
are still able to "jiggle" or slightly move the position of the box and it
messes up the documents. I need to completely prevent this.

Any possibilities? We are Novell 6/ Win XP/Office 2003 SP1.

Thanks.


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Default Truly lock down a text box position

In a word, No. Any 'foreign' objects in Word are anchored to the text in
some way. Locking the anchor simply prevents dragging the *anchor*, not the
graphic it is anchoring. Have a good read he

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/DrwGrphcs/DrawLayer.htm

HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 11/15/06 4:10 PM, in article ,
"mdavison" wrote:

Is it possible to TRULY lock down the position of a text box on a doucment?
I mean, above and beyone the Format Text Box Layout tab Advanced Lock
Anchor/ Absolute position options? I have the little padlock icon on the
text box in the original template said documents are based on, but users
are still able to "jiggle" or slightly move the position of the box and it
messes up the documents. I need to completely prevent this.

Any possibilities? We are Novell 6/ Win XP/Office 2003 SP1.

Thanks.



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PS - Meant to mention that the most likely means of getting close to what
you want is to insert the graphic in the Header/Footer layer of the doc. You
might also want to look into using ToolsProtect Document.

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 11/15/06 8:01 PM, in article ,
"CyberTaz" wrote:

In a word, No. Any 'foreign' objects in Word are anchored to the text in
some way. Locking the anchor simply prevents dragging the *anchor*, not the
graphic it is anchoring. Have a good read he

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/DrwGrphcs/DrawLayer.htm

HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 11/15/06 4:10 PM, in article ,
"mdavison" wrote:

Is it possible to TRULY lock down the position of a text box on a doucment?
I mean, above and beyone the Format Text Box Layout tab Advanced Lock
Anchor/ Absolute position options? I have the little padlock icon on the
text box in the original template said documents are based on, but users
are still able to "jiggle" or slightly move the position of the box and it
messes up the documents. I need to completely prevent this.

Any possibilities? We are Novell 6/ Win XP/Office 2003 SP1.

Thanks.




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Default Truly lock down a text box position

Thanks, but I can't use the header idea. There needs to be editing done
within the textbox by different people. It was intended to eliminate any
fighting with columns.
I guess my next test will involve a table and lockable fields.
Can character styles be properly used with tables? I have had so many
problems with table commandeering body - I cringe at the thought of basing
an entire document layout on one. Anyone have any thoughts on that angle?

Thanks,
-M



"CyberTaz" wrote in message
.. .
PS - Meant to mention that the most likely means of getting close to what
you want is to insert the graphic in the Header/Footer layer of the doc.

You
might also want to look into using ToolsProtect Document.

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 11/15/06 8:01 PM, in article

,
"CyberTaz" wrote:

In a word, No. Any 'foreign' objects in Word are anchored to the text in
some way. Locking the anchor simply prevents dragging the *anchor*, not

the
graphic it is anchoring. Have a good read he

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/DrwGrphcs/DrawLayer.htm

HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 11/15/06 4:10 PM, in article ,
"mdavison" wrote:

Is it possible to TRULY lock down the position of a text box on a

doucment?
I mean, above and beyone the Format Text Box Layout tab Advanced

Lock
Anchor/ Absolute position options? I have the little padlock icon on

the
text box in the original template said documents are based on, but

users
are still able to "jiggle" or slightly move the position of the box and

it
messes up the documents. I need to completely prevent this.

Any possibilities? We are Novell 6/ Win XP/Office 2003 SP1.

Thanks.






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Default Truly lock down a text box position

If you can share more detail as to your ultimate objective I'm sure someone
will have some intelligent insights. I'm also not clear on what you mean by
"fighting with columns" & "table commandeering body".

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 11/16/06 10:45 AM, in article ,
"mdavison" wrote:

Thanks, but I can't use the header idea. There needs to be editing done
within the textbox by different people. It was intended to eliminate any
fighting with columns.
I guess my next test will involve a table and lockable fields.
Can character styles be properly used with tables? I have had so many
problems with table commandeering body - I cringe at the thought of basing
an entire document layout on one. Anyone have any thoughts on that angle?

Thanks,
-M



"CyberTaz" wrote in message
.. .
PS - Meant to mention that the most likely means of getting close to what
you want is to insert the graphic in the Header/Footer layer of the doc.

You
might also want to look into using ToolsProtect Document.

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 11/15/06 8:01 PM, in article

,
"CyberTaz" wrote:

In a word, No. Any 'foreign' objects in Word are anchored to the text in
some way. Locking the anchor simply prevents dragging the *anchor*, not

the
graphic it is anchoring. Have a good read he

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/DrwGrphcs/DrawLayer.htm

HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 11/15/06 4:10 PM, in article ,
"mdavison" wrote:

Is it possible to TRULY lock down the position of a text box on a

doucment?
I mean, above and beyone the Format Text Box Layout tab Advanced

Lock
Anchor/ Absolute position options? I have the little padlock icon on

the
text box in the original template said documents are based on, but

users
are still able to "jiggle" or slightly move the position of the box and

it
messes up the documents. I need to completely prevent this.

Any possibilities? We are Novell 6/ Win XP/Office 2003 SP1.

Thanks.









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The end-result document is a biography. It is being printed on pre-planned
bond with a graphic box/area on the left for the statistical info (email,
phone, law school, languages spoken etc). These documents existing
currently as PageMaker files - layed out by the marketing department.
marketing now wants the Word processing department to manage and make edits
to these files and decided that converting them all to word would be easy
and make the desired tasks easier. That's when I got tapped to make this
template.

The areas of text MUST line up perfectly as they did in PageMaker. But they
are not continuous sections and they are not continuous columns. The
character schemes for the left block(STATS) are quite different in size,
spacing, color etc than the main body area on the right portion (BODY).
There is a third portion at the top of course and those styles are separate
as well. And there may or may not be an image in the top portion of each
person - depends on printability and what not. I have not yet tackled THAT
place holder issue.

People that are a step above me have the fear the WP ladies who will be
using the templates to move text from PageMaker into word might nudge, bump
or otherwise move the current text box I am using for the STATS. I have a
left margin of 3.13 and the text box lays over that. The text in there is
right aligned, with an absolute position of - horizontal -2.64 to the right
of column (although I'm not using any columns and vertical 2.63 below page
and an internal margin of right .3 . That's why I wanted to lock it down.
The ladies in question are professionals and they know how to manage objects
and they know how to use Undo! But I was asked to make it 100% fool-proof.
Not sure if its possible. tried putting a table on the left and reinforce
with fields - but I couldn't get the text wrap on the right to match up
perfectly. By match up I mean the first line of STATS = the atty's direct
dial phone number, the first line on the right is the Intro of the BODY.
They have different fonts and spacing in the styles, so its a trick to make
it happen.

Then if there is a second page, the top margin is set to 2" and the left
margin is at 1.3" exactly. We use a section break(continuous) to achieve
that.

I'm beginning to think we need to spend the money to hire a PageMaker editor
and keep them where they are at!

I have mroe if you want to hear more.




"CyberTaz" wrote in message
.. .
If you can share more detail as to your ultimate objective I'm sure

someone
will have some intelligent insights. I'm also not clear on what you mean

by
"fighting with columns" & "table commandeering body".

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 11/16/06 10:45 AM, in article ,
"mdavison" wrote:

Thanks, but I can't use the header idea. There needs to be editing done
within the textbox by different people. It was intended to eliminate any
fighting with columns.
I guess my next test will involve a table and lockable fields.
Can character styles be properly used with tables? I have had so many
problems with table commandeering body - I cringe at the thought of

basing
an entire document layout on one. Anyone have any thoughts on that

angle?

Thanks,
-M



"CyberTaz" wrote in message
.. .
PS - Meant to mention that the most likely means of getting close to

what
you want is to insert the graphic in the Header/Footer layer of the

doc.
You
might also want to look into using ToolsProtect Document.

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 11/15/06 8:01 PM, in article

,
"CyberTaz" wrote:

In a word, No. Any 'foreign' objects in Word are anchored to the text

in
some way. Locking the anchor simply prevents dragging the *anchor*,

not
the
graphic it is anchoring. Have a good read he

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/DrwGrphcs/DrawLayer.htm

HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 11/15/06 4:10 PM, in article ,
"mdavison" wrote:

Is it possible to TRULY lock down the position of a text box on a

doucment?
I mean, above and beyone the Format Text Box Layout tab Advanced
Lock
Anchor/ Absolute position options? I have the little padlock icon on

the
text box in the original template said documents are based on, but

users
are still able to "jiggle" or slightly move the position of the box

and
it
messes up the documents. I need to completely prevent this.

Any possibilities? We are Novell 6/ Win XP/Office 2003 SP1.

Thanks.









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You have my sincerest sympathy. This is a job I would not relish doing
myself, much less trying to facilitate for someone else!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
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Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"mdavison" wrote in message
...
The end-result document is a biography. It is being printed on pre-planned
bond with a graphic box/area on the left for the statistical info (email,
phone, law school, languages spoken etc). These documents existing
currently as PageMaker files - layed out by the marketing department.
marketing now wants the Word processing department to manage and make

edits
to these files and decided that converting them all to word would be easy
and make the desired tasks easier. That's when I got tapped to make this
template.

The areas of text MUST line up perfectly as they did in PageMaker. But

they
are not continuous sections and they are not continuous columns. The
character schemes for the left block(STATS) are quite different in size,
spacing, color etc than the main body area on the right portion (BODY).
There is a third portion at the top of course and those styles are

separate
as well. And there may or may not be an image in the top portion of each
person - depends on printability and what not. I have not yet tackled THAT
place holder issue.

People that are a step above me have the fear the WP ladies who will be
using the templates to move text from PageMaker into word might nudge,

bump
or otherwise move the current text box I am using for the STATS. I have a
left margin of 3.13 and the text box lays over that. The text in there is
right aligned, with an absolute position of - horizontal -2.64 to the

right
of column (although I'm not using any columns and vertical 2.63 below page
and an internal margin of right .3 . That's why I wanted to lock it down.
The ladies in question are professionals and they know how to manage

objects
and they know how to use Undo! But I was asked to make it 100% fool-proof.
Not sure if its possible. tried putting a table on the left and reinforce
with fields - but I couldn't get the text wrap on the right to match up
perfectly. By match up I mean the first line of STATS = the atty's direct
dial phone number, the first line on the right is the Intro of the BODY.
They have different fonts and spacing in the styles, so its a trick to

make
it happen.

Then if there is a second page, the top margin is set to 2" and the left
margin is at 1.3" exactly. We use a section break(continuous) to achieve
that.

I'm beginning to think we need to spend the money to hire a PageMaker

editor
and keep them where they are at!

I have mroe if you want to hear more.




"CyberTaz" wrote in message
.. .
If you can share more detail as to your ultimate objective I'm sure

someone
will have some intelligent insights. I'm also not clear on what you mean

by
"fighting with columns" & "table commandeering body".

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 11/16/06 10:45 AM, in article ,
"mdavison" wrote:

Thanks, but I can't use the header idea. There needs to be editing

done
within the textbox by different people. It was intended to eliminate

any
fighting with columns.
I guess my next test will involve a table and lockable fields.
Can character styles be properly used with tables? I have had so many
problems with table commandeering body - I cringe at the thought of

basing
an entire document layout on one. Anyone have any thoughts on that

angle?

Thanks,
-M



"CyberTaz" wrote in message
.. .
PS - Meant to mention that the most likely means of getting close to

what
you want is to insert the graphic in the Header/Footer layer of the

doc.
You
might also want to look into using ToolsProtect Document.

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 11/15/06 8:01 PM, in article
,
"CyberTaz" wrote:

In a word, No. Any 'foreign' objects in Word are anchored to the

text
in
some way. Locking the anchor simply prevents dragging the *anchor*,

not
the
graphic it is anchoring. Have a good read he

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/DrwGrphcs/DrawLayer.htm

HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 11/15/06 4:10 PM, in article

,
"mdavison" wrote:

Is it possible to TRULY lock down the position of a text box on a
doucment?
I mean, above and beyone the Format Text Box Layout tab

Advanced
Lock
Anchor/ Absolute position options? I have the little padlock icon

on
the
text box in the original template said documents are based on, but
users
are still able to "jiggle" or slightly move the position of the box

and
it
messes up the documents. I need to completely prevent this.

Any possibilities? We are Novell 6/ Win XP/Office 2003 SP1.

Thanks.










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