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I am preparing a document for a conference, which has a 6-page limit.
When I view my document in Word, it takes exactly 6 pages, even after
Print Preview (which updates all cross-references).

Then I print to a PDF file using the Adobe PDF printer. Egads! The
PDF is 2 lines longer than 6 pages! I look back at the Word file. It
is also 2 lines longer than 6 pages. So I save the now-altered Word
file as a 6.1-page version and close all Word documents to ensure that
the Word process is terminated. When I re-open the 6.1-page version,
it's 6-pages again!

I try again to print to PDF, and both the PDF and the Word files
become 6.1-pages.

Needless to say, the issue is...perplexing (and I'm being very
understated here).

I am using Word 2003 on Windows XP, and I'm using the conference paper
template "WCECS 2010 Proceeding Templates" at http://www.iaeng.org/WCECS2010/ICSEEM2010.html,

If you can propose an explanation for this conversion of 6-page to 6.1-
page, and maybe a workaround, I'd much appreciate it.
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I've troubleshot this down to a selection of the printer. Maybe there
some font mapping is going on. When I change printers from local real
printer to Adobe PDF printer, the entire document changes slightly so
that it is 6.1 pages. If I change back to the local printer, the
document becomes 6 pages again. This is quite an insiduous
problem...it's going to be quite a challenge pairing away 2 lines
(actually four lines in single-column) since everything is hyper-
terse.

On Aug 10, 11:03*am, Paul wrote:
I am preparing a document for a conference, which has a 6-page limit.
When I view my document in Word, it takes exactly 6 pages, even after
Print Preview (which updates all cross-references).

Then I print to a PDF file using the Adobe PDF printer. *Egads! *The
PDF is 2 lines longer than 6 pages! *I look back at the Word file. *It
is also 2 lines longer than 6 pages. *So I save the now-altered Word
file as a 6.1-page version and close all Word documents to ensure that
the Word process is terminated. *When I re-open the 6.1-page version,
it's 6-pages again!

I try again to print to PDF, and both the PDF and the Word files
become 6.1-pages.

Needless to say, the issue is...perplexing (and I'm being very
understated here).

I am using Word 2003 on Windows XP, and I'm using the conference paper
template "WCECS 2010 Proceeding Templates" athttp://www.iaeng.org/WCECS2010/ICSEEM2010.html,

If you can propose an explanation for this conversion of 6-page to 6.1-
page, and maybe a workaround, I'd much appreciate it.


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The formatting of your document depends on your printer driver. If you
created your document with it set to one printer driver, it's not
unexpected for it to change a bit when you print to a different
printer driver.

Have you tried selecting the entire document and Condensing it by 0.1
pt.? (2nd tab of Format Font.)

On Aug 10, 11:28*am, Paul wrote:
I've troubleshot this down to a selection of the printer. *Maybe there
some font mapping is going on. *When I change printers from local real
printer to Adobe PDF printer, the entire document changes slightly so
that it is 6.1 pages. *If I change back to the local printer, the
document becomes 6 pages again. *This is quite an insiduous
problem...it's going to be quite a challenge pairing away 2 lines
(actually four lines in single-column) since everything is hyper-
terse.

On Aug 10, 11:03*am, Paul wrote:



I am preparing a document for a conference, which has a 6-page limit.
When I view my document in Word, it takes exactly 6 pages, even after
Print Preview (which updates all cross-references).


Then I print to a PDF file using the Adobe PDF printer. *Egads! *The
PDF is 2 lines longer than 6 pages! *I look back at the Word file. *It
is also 2 lines longer than 6 pages. *So I save the now-altered Word
file as a 6.1-page version and close all Word documents to ensure that
the Word process is terminated. *When I re-open the 6.1-page version,
it's 6-pages again!


I try again to print to PDF, and both the PDF and the Word files
become 6.1-pages.


Needless to say, the issue is...perplexing (and I'm being very
understated here).


I am using Word 2003 on Windows XP, and I'm using the conference paper
template "WCECS 2010 Proceeding Templates" athttp://www.iaeng.org/WCECS2010/ICSEEM2010.html,


If you can propose an explanation for this conversion of 6-page to 6.1-
page, and maybe a workaround, I'd much appreciate it.-

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That is prohibited. People have abused that trick through the ages. :
(

On Aug 10, 11:50*am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
The formatting of your document depends on your printer driver. If you
created your document with it set to one printer driver, it's not
unexpected for it to change a bit when you print to a different
printer driver.

Have you tried selecting the entire document and Condensing it by 0.1
pt.? (2nd tab of Format Font.)

On Aug 10, 11:28*am, Paul wrote:



I've troubleshot this down to a selection of the printer. *Maybe there
some font mapping is going on. *When I change printers from local real
printer to Adobe PDF printer, the entire document changes slightly so
that it is 6.1 pages. *If I change back to the local printer, the
document becomes 6 pages again. *This is quite an insiduous
problem...it's going to be quite a challenge pairing away 2 lines
(actually four lines in single-column) since everything is hyper-
terse.


On Aug 10, 11:03*am, Paul wrote:


I am preparing a document for a conference, which has a 6-page limit.
When I view my document in Word, it takes exactly 6 pages, even after
Print Preview (which updates all cross-references).


Then I print to a PDF file using the Adobe PDF printer. *Egads! *The
PDF is 2 lines longer than 6 pages! *I look back at the Word file. *It
is also 2 lines longer than 6 pages. *So I save the now-altered Word
file as a 6.1-page version and close all Word documents to ensure that
the Word process is terminated. *When I re-open the 6.1-page version,
it's 6-pages again!


I try again to print to PDF, and both the PDF and the Word files
become 6.1-pages.


Needless to say, the issue is...perplexing (and I'm being very
understated here).


I am using Word 2003 on Windows XP, and I'm using the conference paper
template "WCECS 2010 Proceeding Templates" athttp://www.iaeng.org/WCECS2010/ICSEEM2010.html,


If you can propose an explanation for this conversion of 6-page to 6.1-
page, and maybe a workaround, I'd much appreciate it.

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OK, I managed to squeeze a few lines away and make the page count.
The approach I used was to float figures to the top/bottom of their
pages so that I don't need a swath of white space both above and below
each figure. I used the procedure at http://www.ai.uga.edu/mc/FloatFigWord..pdf.
Thanks, all.

On Aug 10, 1:36*pm, Paul wrote:
That is prohibited. *People have abused that trick through the ages. *:
(

On Aug 10, 11:50*am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:



The formatting of your document depends on your printer driver. If you
created your document with it set to one printer driver, it's not
unexpected for it to change a bit when you print to a different
printer driver.


Have you tried selecting the entire document and Condensing it by 0.1
pt.? (2nd tab of Format Font.)


On Aug 10, 11:28*am, Paul wrote:


I've troubleshot this down to a selection of the printer. *Maybe there
some font mapping is going on. *When I change printers from local real
printer to Adobe PDF printer, the entire document changes slightly so
that it is 6.1 pages. *If I change back to the local printer, the
document becomes 6 pages again. *This is quite an insiduous
problem...it's going to be quite a challenge pairing away 2 lines
(actually four lines in single-column) since everything is hyper-
terse.


On Aug 10, 11:03*am, Paul wrote:


I am preparing a document for a conference, which has a 6-page limit.



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Thanks for the link. Unfortunately it hasn't been updated for
Word2007, but many of the parameters look the same.

Too bad its reference point is LaTeX. In FrameMaker, you can choose
from a wide range of figure positions -- including within the text if
it's where you want it (that might be done for a very small table,
though probably never for a figure), but it implies that such things
can _only_ be set to "floating" in LaTeX.

On Aug 10, 5:40*pm, Paul wrote:
OK, I managed to squeeze a few lines away and make the page count.
The approach I used was to float figures to the top/bottom of their
pages so that I don't need a swath of white space both above and below
each figure. *I used the procedure athttp://www.ai.uga.edu/mc/FloatFigWord.pdf.
Thanks, all.

On Aug 10, 1:36*pm, Paul wrote:

That is prohibited. *People have abused that trick through the ages. *:
(


On Aug 10, 11:50*am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:


The formatting of your document depends on your printer driver. If you
created your document with it set to one printer driver, it's not
unexpected for it to change a bit when you print to a different
printer driver.


Have you tried selecting the entire document and Condensing it by 0.1
pt.? (2nd tab of Format Font.)


On Aug 10, 11:28*am, Paul wrote:


I've troubleshot this down to a selection of the printer. *Maybe there
some font mapping is going on. *When I change printers from local real
printer to Adobe PDF printer, the entire document changes slightly so
that it is 6.1 pages. *If I change back to the local printer, the
document becomes 6 pages again. *This is quite an insiduous
problem...it's going to be quite a challenge pairing away 2 lines
(actually four lines in single-column) since everything is hyper-
terse.


On Aug 10, 11:03*am, Paul wrote:


I am preparing a document for a conference, which has a 6-page limit.
When I view my document in Word, it takes exactly 6 pages, even after
Print Preview (which updates all cross-references).


Then I print to a PDF file using the Adobe PDF printer. *Egads! *The
PDF is 2 lines longer than 6 pages! *I look back at the Word file. *It
is also 2 lines longer than 6 pages. *So I save the now-altered Word
file as a 6.1-page version and close all Word documents to ensure that
the Word process is terminated. *When I re-open the 6.1-page version,
it's 6-pages again!


I try again to print to PDF, and both the PDF and the Word files
become 6.1-pages.


Needless to say, the issue is...perplexing (and I'm being very
understated here).


I am using Word 2003 on Windows XP, and I'm using the conference paper
template "WCECS 2010 Proceeding Templates" athttp://www.iaeng.org/WCECS2010/ICSEEM2010.html,


If you can propose an explanation for this conversion of 6-page to 6.1-
page, and maybe a workaround, I'd much appreciate it.-

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Ohhh...I used FM for years. Such a perfect document preparation
system.

On Aug 10, 7:07*pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Thanks for the link. Unfortunately it hasn't been updated for
Word2007, but many of the parameters look the same.

Too bad its reference point is LaTeX. In FrameMaker, you can choose
from a wide range of figure positions -- including within the text if
it's where you want it (that might be done for a very small table,
though probably never for a figure), but it implies that such things
can _only_ be set to "floating" in LaTeX.

On Aug 10, 5:40*pm, Paul wrote:



OK, I managed to squeeze a few lines away and make the page count.
The approach I used was to float figures to the top/bottom of their
pages so that I don't need a swath of white space both above and below
each figure. *I used the procedure athttp://www.ai.uga.edu/mc/FloatFigWord.pdf.
Thanks, all.


On Aug 10, 1:36*pm, Paul wrote:


That is prohibited. *People have abused that trick through the ages.. *:
(


On Aug 10, 11:50*am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:


The formatting of your document depends on your printer driver. If you
created your document with it set to one printer driver, it's not
unexpected for it to change a bit when you print to a different
printer driver.


Have you tried selecting the entire document and Condensing it by 0..1
pt.? (2nd tab of Format Font.)


On Aug 10, 11:28*am, Paul wrote:


I've troubleshot this down to a selection of the printer. *Maybe there
some font mapping is going on. *When I change printers from local real
printer to Adobe PDF printer, the entire document changes slightly so
that it is 6.1 pages. *If I change back to the local printer, the
document becomes 6 pages again. *This is quite an insiduous
problem...it's going to be quite a challenge pairing away 2 lines
(actually four lines in single-column) since everything is hyper-
terse.


On Aug 10, 11:03*am, Paul wrote:


I am preparing a document for a conference, which has a 6-page limit.
When I view my document in Word, it takes exactly 6 pages, even after
Print Preview (which updates all cross-references).


Then I print to a PDF file using the Adobe PDF printer. *Egads! *The
PDF is 2 lines longer than 6 pages! *I look back at the Word file. *It
is also 2 lines longer than 6 pages. *So I save the now-altered Word
file as a 6.1-page version and close all Word documents to ensure that
the Word process is terminated. *When I re-open the 6.1-page version,
it's 6-pages again!


I try again to print to PDF, and both the PDF and the Word files
become 6.1-pages.


Needless to say, the issue is...perplexing (and I'm being very
understated here).


I am using Word 2003 on Windows XP, and I'm using the conference paper
template "WCECS 2010 Proceeding Templates" athttp://www.iaeng.org/WCECS2010/ICSEEM2010.html,


If you can propose an explanation for this conversion of 6-page to 6.1-
page, and maybe a workaround, I'd much appreciate it.-- Hide quoted text -


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Ohhh...I used FM for years. Such a perfect document preparation
system.

On Aug 10, 7:07*pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Thanks for the link. Unfortunately it hasn't been updated for
Word2007, but many of the parameters look the same.

Too bad its reference point is LaTeX. In FrameMaker, you can choose
from a wide range of figure positions -- including within the text if
it's where you want it (that might be done for a very small table,
though probably never for a figure), but it implies that such things
can _only_ be set to "floating" in LaTeX.

On Aug 10, 5:40*pm, Paul wrote:



OK, I managed to squeeze a few lines away and make the page count.
The approach I used was to float figures to the top/bottom of their
pages so that I don't need a swath of white space both above and below
each figure. *I used the procedure athttp://www.ai.uga.edu/mc/FloatFigWord.pdf.
Thanks, all.


On Aug 10, 1:36*pm, Paul wrote:


That is prohibited. *People have abused that trick through the ages.. *:
(


On Aug 10, 11:50*am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:


The formatting of your document depends on your printer driver. If you
created your document with it set to one printer driver, it's not
unexpected for it to change a bit when you print to a different
printer driver.


Have you tried selecting the entire document and Condensing it by 0..1
pt.? (2nd tab of Format Font.)


On Aug 10, 11:28*am, Paul wrote:


I've troubleshot this down to a selection of the printer. *Maybe there
some font mapping is going on. *When I change printers from local real
printer to Adobe PDF printer, the entire document changes slightly so
that it is 6.1 pages. *If I change back to the local printer, the
document becomes 6 pages again. *This is quite an insiduous
problem...it's going to be quite a challenge pairing away 2 lines
(actually four lines in single-column) since everything is hyper-
terse.


On Aug 10, 11:03*am, Paul wrote:


I am preparing a document for a conference, which has a 6-page limit.
When I view my document in Word, it takes exactly 6 pages, even after
Print Preview (which updates all cross-references).


Then I print to a PDF file using the Adobe PDF printer. *Egads! *The
PDF is 2 lines longer than 6 pages! *I look back at the Word file. *It
is also 2 lines longer than 6 pages. *So I save the now-altered Word
file as a 6.1-page version and close all Word documents to ensure that
the Word process is terminated. *When I re-open the 6.1-page version,
it's 6-pages again!


I try again to print to PDF, and both the PDF and the Word files
become 6.1-pages.


Needless to say, the issue is...perplexing (and I'm being very
understated here).


I am using Word 2003 on Windows XP, and I'm using the conference paper
template "WCECS 2010 Proceeding Templates" athttp://www.iaeng.org/WCECS2010/ICSEEM2010.html,


If you can propose an explanation for this conversion of 6-page to 6.1-
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