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how do I type a thin space in Word?
I need to be able to type a thin space in the expression '37 °C', between the number and the degrees symbol. How do I achieve this in Word? I've scoured Word Help to no avail, and I found no reference to it when I searched this forum. Thank you. -- wavedancer |
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how do I type a thin space in Word?
I guess you are referring to a nonbreaking space? To insert one, press
Ctrl+Shift+SpaceBar. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. I need to be able to type a thin space in the expression '37 °C', between the number and the degrees symbol. How do I achieve this in Word? I've scoured Word Help to no avail, and I found no reference to it when I searched this forum. Thank you. -- wavedancer |
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how do I type a thin space in Word?
FormatFont, Character spacing Tab then select a lesser percentage
Buck "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. I need to be able to type a thin space in the expression '37 °C', between the number and the degrees symbol. How do I achieve this in Word? I've scoured Word Help to no avail, and I found no reference to it when I searched this forum. Thank you. -- wavedancer |
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how do I type a thin space in Word?
Greetings--
You have to insert it as a Unicode character: Unicode Character 'THIN SPACE' (U+2009) Have a look at the following pages: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unic...2009/index.htm http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/chars/spaces.html http://www.microsoft.com/typography/...pec/spaces.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_character -- Cheers Robert On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:20:33 +0000, wavedancer wrote: I need to be able to type a thin space in the expression '37 °C', between the number and the degrees symbol. How do I achieve this in Word? I've scoured Word Help to no avail, and I found no reference to it when I searched this forum. Thank you. |
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how do I type a thin space in Word?
If you're referring to a true typesetting thin space (1/8-em), the straight
answer is No, not in Word. The best you can get in Word is a 1/4-em - go to InsertSymbol, click the Special Characters tab & insert it from there. If you need to use it with any frequency you can assign a keystroke to it while you're there. If you need anything tighter than that you'll have to select the 2 characters and use FormatFontCharacter Spacing - Spacing: to tighten them up by 10ths of a point. That will give you the effect you want, but it is still guesswork unless you measure out the type specs to determine how much of an adjustment to make. -- HTH |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. I need to be able to type a thin space in the expression '37 °C', between the number and the degrees symbol. How do I achieve this in Word? I've scoured Word Help to no avail, and I found no reference to it when I searched this forum. Thank you. -- wavedancer |
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As Robert indicates, the Unicode character set includes a thin space (and
also a hair space), but Arial Unicode MS and Lucida Sans Unicode are the only fonts most users are likely to have that contain these characters (at U2009 and U200A, respectively) -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "CyberTaz" typegeneraltaz1ATcomcastdotnet wrote in message ... If you're referring to a true typesetting thin space (1/8-em), the straight answer is No, not in Word. The best you can get in Word is a 1/4-em - go to InsertSymbol, click the Special Characters tab & insert it from there. If you need to use it with any frequency you can assign a keystroke to it while you're there. If you need anything tighter than that you'll have to select the 2 characters and use FormatFontCharacter Spacing - Spacing: to tighten them up by 10ths of a point. That will give you the effect you want, but it is still guesswork unless you measure out the type specs to determine how much of an adjustment to make. -- HTH |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. I need to be able to type a thin space in the expression '37 °C', between the number and the degrees symbol. How do I achieve this in Word? I've scoured Word Help to no avail, and I found no reference to it when I searched this forum. Thank you. -- wavedancer |
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how do I type a thin space in Word?
Thank you, Bob. I'm using Word 2004 for Mac and there's no 1/4-em in my Special Characters list... It's not critical how small the space is: I just need to be able to differentiate between that and the usual space so that the person doing the typesetting can see what's wanted. It looks as if my best bet would probably be to give a blanket instruction and leave it at that. I used to work with hard copy and then it was easier to indicate. Thank you for taking the trouble to reply. Helen ---------- CyberTaz Wrote: If you're referring to a true typesetting thin space (1/8-em), the straight answer is No, not in Word. The best you can get in Word is a 1/4-em - go to InsertSymbol, click the Special Characters tab & insert it from there. If you need to use it with any frequency you can assign a keystroke to it while you're there. If you need anything tighter than that you'll have to select the 2 characters and use FormatFontCharacter Spacing - Spacing: to tighten them up by 10ths of a point. HTH | Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. I need to be able to type a thin space in the expression '37 °C', between the number and the degrees symbol. How do I achieve this in Word? I've scoured Word Help to no avail, and I found no reference to it when I searched this forum. Thank you. -- wavedancer -- wavedancer |
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how do I type a thin space in Word?
Ah, no – it was a thin space I meant, but thank you for your reply anyway. ---------- Stefan Blom Wrote: I guess you are referring to a nonbreaking space? To insert one, press Ctrl+Shift+SpaceBar. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. I need to be able to type a thin space in the expression '37 °C', between the number and the degrees symbol. How do I achieve this in Word? I've scoured Word Help to no avail, and I found no reference to it when I searched this forum. Thank you. -- wavedancer -- wavedancer |
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Aha! Yes – that did it. And in fact it wasn't as irksome as I feared. Thank you! Helen --------- Buck Rabbit Wrote: FormatFont, Character spacing Tab then select a lesser percentage Buck "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. I need to be able to type a thin space in the expression '37 °C', between the number and the degrees symbol. How do I achieve this in Word? I've scoured Word Help to no avail, and I found no reference to it when I searched this forum. Thank you. -- wavedancer -- wavedancer |
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how do I type a thin space in Word?
Thank you! Some very interesting stuff in there. Now, can I do this on a Mac? Robert Wrote: Greetings-- You have to insert it as a Unicode character: Unicode Character 'THIN SPACE' (U+2009) Have a look at the following pages: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unic...2009/index.htm http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/chars/spaces.html http://www.microsoft.com/typography/...pec/spaces.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_character -- Cheers Robert On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:20:33 +0000, wavedancer wrote: I need to be able to type a thin space in the expression '37 °C', between the number and the degrees symbol. How do I achieve this in Word? I've scoured Word Help to no avail, and I found no reference to it when I searched this forum. Thank you. -- wavedancer |
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how do I type a thin space in Word?
Thank you, Suzanne. I don't see those fonts on my system, so perhaps it's not possible on a Mac – you'll see that I've already asked Robert about that. Please excuse my ignorance. I am fascinated by it, but it's all new and cryptic to me. Helen ---------- Suzanne S. Barnhill Wrote: As Robert indicates, the Unicode character set includes a thin space (and also a hair space), but Arial Unicode MS and Lucida Sans Unicode are the only fonts most users are likely to have that contain these characters (at U2009 and U200A, respectively) -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "CyberTaz" typegeneraltaz1ATcomcastdotnet wrote in message ... If you're referring to a true typesetting thin space (1/8-em), the straight answer is No, not in Word. The best you can get in Word is a 1/4-em - go to InsertSymbol, click the Special Characters tab & insert it from there. If you need to use it with any frequency you can assign a keystroke to it while you're there. If you need anything tighter than that you'll have to select the 2 characters and use FormatFontCharacter Spacing - Spacing: to tighten them up by 10ths of a point. That will give you the effect you want, but it is still guesswork unless you measure out the type specs to determine how much of an adjustment to make. -- HTH | Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. I need to be able to type a thin space in the expression '37 °C', between the number and the degrees symbol. How do I achieve this in Word? I've scoured Word Help to no avail, and I found no reference to it when I searched this forum. Thank you. -- wavedancer -- wavedancer |
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how do I type a thin space in Word?
I suspect that neither of those fonts is installed by default, especially
Arial Unicode MS, which is a HUGE file, but you should be able to install them as options. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. Thank you, Suzanne. I don't see those fonts on my system, so perhaps it's not possible on a Mac – you'll see that I've already asked Robert about that. Please excuse my ignorance. I am fascinated by it, but it's all new and cryptic to me. Helen ---------- Suzanne S. Barnhill Wrote: As Robert indicates, the Unicode character set includes a thin space (and also a hair space), but Arial Unicode MS and Lucida Sans Unicode are the only fonts most users are likely to have that contain these characters (at U2009 and U200A, respectively) -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "CyberTaz" typegeneraltaz1ATcomcastdotnet wrote in message ... If you're referring to a true typesetting thin space (1/8-em), the straight answer is No, not in Word. The best you can get in Word is a 1/4-em - go to InsertSymbol, click the Special Characters tab & insert it from there. If you need to use it with any frequency you can assign a keystroke to it while you're there. If you need anything tighter than that you'll have to select the 2 characters and use FormatFontCharacter Spacing - Spacing: to tighten them up by 10ths of a point. That will give you the effect you want, but it is still guesswork unless you measure out the type specs to determine how much of an adjustment to make. -- HTH | Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. I need to be able to type a thin space in the expression '37 °C', between the number and the degrees symbol. How do I achieve this in Word? I've scoured Word Help to no avail, and I found no reference to it when I searched this forum. Thank you. -- wavedancer -- wavedancer |
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how do I type a thin space in Word?
"...typesetting?" Are you referring to a Linotype machine? Fore example
typesetting machine operated from a keyboard that casts an entire line as a single slug of metal. "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. Thank you, Bob. I'm using Word 2004 for Mac and there's no 1/4-em in my Special Characters list... It's not critical how small the space is: I just need to be able to differentiate between that and the usual space so that the person doing the typesetting can see what's wanted. It looks as if my best bet would probably be to give a blanket instruction and leave it at that. I used to work with hard copy and then it was easier to indicate. Thank you for taking the trouble to reply. Helen ---------- CyberTaz Wrote: If you're referring to a true typesetting thin space (1/8-em), the straight answer is No, not in Word. The best you can get in Word is a 1/4-em - go to InsertSymbol, click the Special Characters tab & insert it from there. If you need to use it with any frequency you can assign a keystroke to it while you're there. If you need anything tighter than that you'll have to select the 2 characters and use FormatFontCharacter Spacing - Spacing: to tighten them up by 10ths of a point. HTH | Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. I need to be able to type a thin space in the expression '37 °C', between the number and the degrees symbol. How do I achieve this in Word? I've scoured Word Help to no avail, and I found no reference to it when I searched this forum. Thank you. -- wavedancer -- wavedancer |
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how do I type a thin space in Word?
I cannot really say: I am a Windows XP user. But it seems that things work
similarly in both OSes. You have to install support for international languages if you want to be able to use fonts with "exotic" characters. Here is from http://hollis.harvard.edu/F/?func=fi...e=help-3#kits: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Installing Language Kits for Mac OS 9 All browsers running under Macintosh OS 9.x require the installation of Language Kits to provide the fonts necessary to properly display non-Western European languages. Insert the Mac OS 9 installation CD Double click on "Mac OS Install" icon of the installation CD Continue through the prompts until the "Install Software" dialog box Click the "Customize" button to display the "Custom installation and Removal" dialog Select the Language Kits component (and unselect any other previously selected components) Change the installation mode from "None Selected" to "Customized Installation..." Select all of the languages, and click "OK" to return to the "Custom Installation and Removal" dialog Click the "Start" button Note that the Language Kit installation may require a restart of the machine to take effect. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can also have a look at http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/fonts_macosx.html. It includes detailed information on "Unicode fonts for Macintosh OS X computers". It seems that Word 2004 is the Word version that offers the strongest support for Unicode characters. Here is from http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/util...s_macosx.html: "Microsoft¢s Word 2004 word processor for Mac OS X 10.2.8 onwards uses the same file format as Word 97, Word 2000, Word 2002 and Word 2003 for Windows, and is the first version of Word for Mac to make use of the operating system¢s Unicode support, including the Unicode keyboards and fonts. It is supplied with a range of Unicode fonts that enable it to display many multi-script documents from Word for Windows. However, it does not support editing of right-to-left scripts (e.g. Arabic and Hebrew) or complex scripts such as Thai and the Indian languages. The Insert Symbol dialog box does not show all fonts or all characters, but Apple¢s Character Palette can be used instead." Hope this helps. -- Cheers Robert On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:37:31 +0000, wavedancer wrote: Thank you! Some very interesting stuff in there. Now, can I do this on a Mac? Robert Wrote: Greetings-- You have to insert it as a Unicode character: Unicode Character 'THIN SPACE' (U+2009) Have a look at the following pages: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unic...2009/index.htm http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/chars/spaces.html http://www.microsoft.com/typography/...pec/spaces.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_character -- Cheers Robert On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:20:33 +0000, wavedancer wrote: I need to be able to type a thin space in the expression '37 °C', between the number and the degrees symbol. How do I achieve this in Word? I've scoured Word Help to no avail, and I found no reference to it when I searched this forum. Thank you. |
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You're welcome
Sometimes the simplest, least complex answer is often the best. "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. Aha! Yes - that did it. And in fact it wasn't as irksome as I feared. Thank you! Helen --------- Buck Rabbit Wrote: FormatFont, Character spacing Tab then select a lesser percentage Buck "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. I need to be able to type a thin space in the expression '37 °C', between the number and the degrees symbol. How do I achieve this in Word? I've scoured Word Help to no avail, and I found no reference to it when I searched this forum. Thank you. -- wavedancer -- wavedancer |
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Sorry for the delayed response to your last post, but I hope you return to
get this... On the Mac (OS X) you can take advantage of just about anything you need if you are familiar with the Character Palette. Word, itself, is 'Unicode challenged' on the Mac, but the Unicode is usable if inserted through the Character Palette. -- HTH |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. Thank you, Bob. I'm using Word 2004 for Mac and there's no 1/4-em in my Special Characters list... It's not critical how small the space is: I just need to be able to differentiate between that and the usual space so that the person doing the typesetting can see what's wanted. It looks as if my best bet would probably be to give a blanket instruction and leave it at that. I used to work with hard copy and then it was easier to indicate. Thank you for taking the trouble to reply. Helen ---------- CyberTaz Wrote: If you're referring to a true typesetting thin space (1/8-em), the straight answer is No, not in Word. The best you can get in Word is a 1/4-em - go to InsertSymbol, click the Special Characters tab & insert it from there. If you need to use it with any frequency you can assign a keystroke to it while you're there. If you need anything tighter than that you'll have to select the 2 characters and use FormatFontCharacter Spacing - Spacing: to tighten them up by 10ths of a point. HTH | Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. I need to be able to type a thin space in the expression '37 °C', between the number and the degrees symbol. How do I achieve this in Word? I've scoured Word Help to no avail, and I found no reference to it when I searched this forum. Thank you. -- wavedancer -- wavedancer |
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I had an email notification via the forum, so it was fine. I appreciate you taking the trouble to reply. I'm afraid I know nothing about the Character Palette and I can't find it mentioned in either Word or MacOS Help. Could you please point me to some information about it? Thank you. Helen ------------ CyberTaz Wrote:[color=blue] Sorry for the delayed response to your last post, but I hope you return to get this... On the Mac (OS X) you can take advantage of just about anything you need if you are familiar with the Character Palette. Word, itself, is 'Unicode challenged' on the Mac, but the Unicode is usable if inserted through the Character Palette. -- HTH | Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. Thank you, Bob. I'm using Word 2004 for Mac and there's no 1/4-em in my Special Characters list... Helen -- wavedancer |
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Sure - Apple MenuSystem PreferencesInternationalInput Menu (I believe
this is correct, but am going from memory). Check the appropriate boxes. The Character Palette will be available from an icon the appears on the Finder Menu Bar. -- Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "wavedancer" wrote in message . ..[color=blue] I had an email notification via the forum, so it was fine. I appreciate you taking the trouble to reply. I'm afraid I know nothing about the Character Palette and I can't find it mentioned in either Word or MacOS Help. Could you please point me to some information about it? Thank you. Helen ------------ CyberTaz Wrote: Sorry for the delayed response to your last post, but I hope you return to get this... On the Mac (OS X) you can take advantage of just about anything you need if you are familiar with the Character Palette. Word, itself, is 'Unicode challenged' on the Mac, but the Unicode is usable if inserted through the Character Palette. -- HTH | Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "wavedancer" wrote in message . .. Thank you, Bob. I'm using Word 2004 for Mac and there's no 1/4-em in my Special Characters list... Helen -- wavedancer |
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Aha! And I had it enabled all the time! Thank you – something else for me to play with Best wishes Helen in damp and beautiful Cornwall ? (that's odd: I inserted an umbrella there, and look how that turned out!) CyberTaz Wrote:[color=blue] Sure - Apple MenuSystem PreferencesInternationalInput Menu (I believe this is correct, but am going from memory). Check the appropriate boxes. The Character Palette will be available from an icon the appears on the Finder Menu Bar. -- Regards | Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "wavedancer" wrote in message . ..[color=blue] I'm afraid I know nothing about the Character Palette and I can't find it mentioned in either Word or MacOS Help. Could you please point me to some information about it? Thank you. Helen ------------ CyberTaz Wrote: On the Mac (OS X) you can take advantage of just about anything you need if you are familiar with the Character Palette. Word, itself, is 'Unicode challenged' on the Mac, but the Unicode is usable if inserted through the Character Palette. -- HTH | Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac -- wavedancer |
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