I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a set TOC

What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align properly,
you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be
sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles are
set to update automatically, by default).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"kaycee96" wrote in message
...
I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in a
set TOC

But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try
to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or
place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to
update the entire table, if prompted.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align
properly,
you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be
sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles
are
set to update automatically, by default).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"kaycee96" wrote in message
...
I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in
a
set TOC

You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop even if
you have changed the margins.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try
to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or
place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to
update the entire table, if prompted.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align
properly,
you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be
sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles
are
set to update automatically, by default).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"kaycee96" wrote in message
...
I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in
a
set TOC

In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you have
explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue, I guess.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop even if
you have changed the margins.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try
to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or
place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to
update the entire table, if prompted.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align
properly,
you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be
sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles
are
set to update automatically, by default).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"kaycee96" wrote in message
...
I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in
a
set TOC

"Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have enough experience
to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's never happened
for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop. But I certainly
won't question your experience, which is probably broader than mine.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you have
explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue, I guess.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop even
if
you have changed the margins.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try
to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field" or
place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select to
update the entire table, if prompted.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align
properly,
you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be
sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles
are
set to update automatically, by default).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"kaycee96" wrote in message
...
I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape in
a
set TOC

Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which I am prepared to
offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a document with 1" left
and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins to 1.25". The TOC
now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated the entire table,
and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was updated. They were
in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by bolding it--not
by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So it would appear
that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab setting from being
updated.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
"Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have enough
experience
to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's never happened
for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop. But I
certainly
won't question your experience, which is probably broader than mine.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you have
explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue, I
guess.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab stop
even
if
you have changed the margins.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops. First try
to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update field"
or
place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you select
to
update the entire table, if prompted.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't align
properly,
you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It should be
sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC styles
are
set to update automatically, by default).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"kaycee96" wrote in message
...
I am having trouble changing the page orientation to landscape
in
a
set TOC

Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in my
experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the right-aligned tab
stop adjust to page margins!

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which I am
prepared to
offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a document with
1" left
and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins to 1.25".
The TOC
now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated the
entire table,
and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was updated.
They were
in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by bolding
it--not
by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So it
would appear
that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab setting
from being
updated.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
"Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have enough
experience
to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's never
happened
for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop. But I
certainly
won't question your experience, which is probably broader than
mine.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you
have
explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue,
I
guess.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab
stop
even
if
you have changed the margins.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops.
First try
to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update
field"
or
place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you
select
to
update the entire table, if prompted.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't
align
properly,
you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It
should be
sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC
styles
are
set to update automatically, by default).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"kaycee96" wrote in
message
...
I am having trouble changing the page orientation to
landscape
in
a
set TOC

Yes, and to further clarify, in addition to bolding TOC 1, I later realized
I had added some Space Before. So it's possible that font formatting alone
would not prevent the tab stop from being updated, but paragraph formatting
would. Testing would be required to determine what changes, if any, can be
made without affecting the "elasticity" of the style.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in my
experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the right-aligned tab
stop adjust to page margins!

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which I am
prepared to
offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a document with
1" left
and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins to 1.25".
The TOC
now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated the
entire table,
and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was updated.
They were
in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by bolding
it--not
by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So it
would appear
that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab setting
from being
updated.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
"Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have enough
experience
to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's never
happened
for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop. But I
certainly
won't question your experience, which is probably broader than
mine.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course you
have
explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version issue,
I
guess.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the tab
stop
even
if
you have changed the margins.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
But note that it might be easier than modifying tab stops.
First try
to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose "Update
field"
or
place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that you
select
to
update the entire table, if prompted.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't
align
properly,
you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It
should be
sufficient to do this once for each level (because the TOC
styles
are
set to update automatically, by default).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"kaycee96" wrote in
message
...
I am having trouble changing the page orientation to
landscape
in
a
set TOC

At least changing to italic, bold, underline, and a different font
size can be done without "locking" the tab stop.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Yes, and to further clarify, in addition to bolding TOC 1, I later
realized
I had added some Space Before. So it's possible that font formatting
alone
would not prevent the tab stop from being updated, but paragraph
formatting
would. Testing would be required to determine what changes, if any,
can be
made without affecting the "elasticity" of the style.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in my
experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the right-aligned
tab
stop adjust to page margins!

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which I am
prepared to
offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a document
with
1" left
and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins to
1.25".
The TOC
now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated the
entire table,
and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was
updated.
They were
in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by
bolding
it--not
by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So it
would appear
that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab
setting
from being
updated.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
"Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have
enough
experience
to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's
never
happened
for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop.
But I
certainly
won't question your experience, which is probably broader than
mine.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course
you
have
explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version
issue,
I
guess.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the
tab
stop
even
if
you have changed the margins.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
But note that it might be easier than modifying tab
stops.
First try
to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose
"Update
field"
or
place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that
you
select
to
update the entire table, if prompted.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't
align
properly,
you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It
should be
sufficient to do this once for each level (because the
TOC
styles
are
set to update automatically, by default).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"kaycee96" wrote
in
message

...
I am having trouble changing the page orientation to
landscape
in
a
set TOC

That's good news, but kind of perverse. Styles define many settings,
including font, tab settings, and paragraph settings. But tabs aren't part
of paragraph formatting per se (that is, they're not set in the Format
Paragraph dialog), so it's no more reasonable for a change in Space
Before/After to affect tabs than for a change in font to do so.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
At least changing to italic, bold, underline, and a different font
size can be done without "locking" the tab stop.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Yes, and to further clarify, in addition to bolding TOC 1, I later
realized
I had added some Space Before. So it's possible that font formatting
alone
would not prevent the tab stop from being updated, but paragraph
formatting
would. Testing would be required to determine what changes, if any,
can be
made without affecting the "elasticity" of the style.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in my
experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the right-aligned
tab
stop adjust to page margins!

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which I am
prepared to
offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a document
with
1" left
and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins to
1.25".
The TOC
now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated the
entire table,
and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was
updated.
They were
in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by
bolding
it--not
by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So it
would appear
that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab
setting
from being
updated.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
"Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have
enough
experience
to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that it's
never
happened
for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab stop.
But I
certainly
won't question your experience, which is probably broader than
mine.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of course
you
have
explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a version
issue,
I
guess.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves the
tab
stop
even
if
you have changed the margins.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
But note that it might be easier than modifying tab
stops.
First try
to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose
"Update
field"
or
place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure that
you
select
to
update the entire table, if prompted.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers don't
align
properly,
you can drag the tab stop to the desired location. It
should be
sufficient to do this once for each level (because the
TOC
styles
are
set to update automatically, by default).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"kaycee96" wrote
in
message

...
I am having trouble changing the page orientation to
landscape
in
a
set TOC

I agree completely. Since "flexible" tab stops exist only for tables
of contents, they should be independent of paragraph formatting.

The obvious exception would be when you've explicitly set tab stops
for a TOC style. Then you certainly don't want Word to automatically
adjust them. (Of course, the application wouldn't know which tab stop
to adjust, either, if there were several of them.)

Things would be easier if Word also allowed for tab stops to be set
relative to the right margin. Then there would be no need for the
"flexible" tab stops.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
That's good news, but kind of perverse. Styles define many settings,
including font, tab settings, and paragraph settings. But tabs
aren't part
of paragraph formatting per se (that is, they're not set in the
Format
Paragraph dialog), so it's no more reasonable for a change in Space
Before/After to affect tabs than for a change in font to do so.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
At least changing to italic, bold, underline, and a different font
size can be done without "locking" the tab stop.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Yes, and to further clarify, in addition to bolding TOC 1, I
later
realized
I had added some Space Before. So it's possible that font
formatting
alone
would not prevent the tab stop from being updated, but paragraph
formatting
would. Testing would be required to determine what changes, if
any,
can be
made without affecting the "elasticity" of the style.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in my
experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the
right-aligned
tab
stop adjust to page margins!

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which
I am
prepared to
offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a
document
with
1" left
and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins
to
1.25".
The TOC
now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated
the
entire table,
and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was
updated.
They were
in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by
bolding
it--not
by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So
it
would appear
that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab
setting
from being
updated.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
"Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have
enough
experience
to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that
it's
never
happened
for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab
stop.
But I
certainly
won't question your experience, which is probably broader
than
mine.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of
course
you
have
explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a
version
issue,
I
guess.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves
the
tab
stop
even
if
you have changed the margins.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
But note that it might be easier than modifying tab
stops.
First try
to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose
"Update
field"
or
place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure
that
you
select
to
update the entire table, if prompted.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers
don't
align
properly,
you can drag the tab stop to the desired location.
It
should be
sufficient to do this once for each level (because
the
TOC
styles
are
set to update automatically, by default).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"kaycee96"
wrote
in
message

...
I am having trouble changing the page
orientation to
landscape
in
a
set TOC

I agree with all of this. But what's really needed is the ability to add tab
*characters* to TOC entries to take advantage of custom tab stops to make
the period leaders stop well short of the page numbers.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
I agree completely. Since "flexible" tab stops exist only for tables
of contents, they should be independent of paragraph formatting.

The obvious exception would be when you've explicitly set tab stops
for a TOC style. Then you certainly don't want Word to automatically
adjust them. (Of course, the application wouldn't know which tab stop
to adjust, either, if there were several of them.)

Things would be easier if Word also allowed for tab stops to be set
relative to the right margin. Then there would be no need for the
"flexible" tab stops.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
That's good news, but kind of perverse. Styles define many settings,
including font, tab settings, and paragraph settings. But tabs
aren't part
of paragraph formatting per se (that is, they're not set in the
Format
Paragraph dialog), so it's no more reasonable for a change in Space
Before/After to affect tabs than for a change in font to do so.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
At least changing to italic, bold, underline, and a different font
size can be done without "locking" the tab stop.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Yes, and to further clarify, in addition to bolding TOC 1, I
later
realized
I had added some Space Before. So it's possible that font
formatting
alone
would not prevent the tab stop from being updated, but paragraph
formatting
would. Testing would be required to determine what changes, if
any,
can be
made without affecting the "elasticity" of the style.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in my
experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the
right-aligned
tab
stop adjust to page margins!

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of which
I am
prepared to
offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a
document
with
1" left
and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R margins
to
1.25".
The TOC
now extended half an inch into the right margin. I updated
the
entire table,
and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs was
updated.
They were
in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified (by
bolding
it--not
by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not updated. So
it
would appear
that *any* modification to the style will prevent the tab
setting
from being
updated.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
"Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't have
enough
experience
to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that
it's
never
happened
for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab
stop.
But I
certainly
won't question your experience, which is probably broader
than
mine.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless of
course
you
have
explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a
version
issue,
I
guess.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'd think that would work, but IME Word never moves
the
tab
stop
even
if
you have changed the margins.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all
follow-ups
to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
But note that it might be easier than modifying tab
stops.
First try
to update the TOC: Either right-click it and choose
"Update
field"
or
place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make sure
that
you
select
to
update the entire table, if prompted.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
What exactly is the problem? If the page numbers
don't
align
properly,
you can drag the tab stop to the desired location.
It
should be
sufficient to do this once for each level (because
the
TOC
styles
are
set to update automatically, by default).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"kaycee96"
wrote
in
message

...
I am having trouble changing the page
orientation to
landscape
in
a
set TOC

Use the \w switch?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I agree with all of this. But what's really needed is the ability to
add tab
*characters* to TOC entries to take advantage of custom tab stops to
make
the period leaders stop well short of the page numbers.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
I agree completely. Since "flexible" tab stops exist only for
tables
of contents, they should be independent of paragraph formatting.

The obvious exception would be when you've explicitly set tab
stops
for a TOC style. Then you certainly don't want Word to
automatically
adjust them. (Of course, the application wouldn't know which tab
stop
to adjust, either, if there were several of them.)

Things would be easier if Word also allowed for tab stops to be
set
relative to the right margin. Then there would be no need for the
"flexible" tab stops.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
That's good news, but kind of perverse. Styles define many
settings,
including font, tab settings, and paragraph settings. But tabs
aren't part
of paragraph formatting per se (that is, they're not set in the
Format
Paragraph dialog), so it's no more reasonable for a change in
Space
Before/After to affect tabs than for a change in font to do so.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
At least changing to italic, bold, underline, and a different
font
size can be done without "locking" the tab stop.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Yes, and to further clarify, in addition to bolding TOC 1, I
later
realized
I had added some Space Before. So it's possible that font
formatting
alone
would not prevent the tab stop from being updated, but
paragraph
formatting
would. Testing would be required to determine what changes,
if
any,
can be
made without affecting the "elasticity" of the style.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in
my
experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the
right-aligned
tab
stop adjust to page margins!

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in
message
...
Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of
which
I am
prepared to
offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a
document
with
1" left
and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R
margins
to
1.25".
The TOC
now extended half an inch into the right margin. I
updated
the
entire table,
and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs
was
updated.
They were
in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified
(by
bolding
it--not
by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not
updated. So
it
would appear
that *any* modification to the style will prevent the
tab
setting
from being
updated.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in
message
...
"Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't
have
enough
experience
to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that
it's
never
happened
for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab
stop.
But I
certainly
won't question your experience, which is probably
broader
than
mine.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all
follow-ups
to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message

...
In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless
of
course
you
have
explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a
version
issue,
I
guess.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'd think that would work, but IME Word never
moves
the
tab
stop
even
if
you have changed the margins.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all
follow-ups
to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in
message
...
But note that it might be easier than modifying
tab
stops.
First try
to update the TOC: Either right-click it and
choose
"Update
field"
or
place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make
sure
that
you
select
to
update the entire table, if prompted.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in
message
...
What exactly is the problem? If the page
numbers
don't
align
properly,
you can drag the tab stop to the desired
location.
It
should be
sufficient to do this once for each level
(because
the
TOC
styles
are
set to update automatically, by default).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"kaycee96"

wrote
in
message

...
I am having trouble changing the page
orientation to
landscape
in
a
set TOC

This does work (IIRC), but it requires a tab character in the heading
itself, which can be a problem in centered headings. I think that when I
want a classy-looking TOC I usually end up just unlinking the field and
doing the last bit of formatting by hand.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Use the \w switch?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I agree with all of this. But what's really needed is the ability to
add tab
*characters* to TOC entries to take advantage of custom tab stops to
make
the period leaders stop well short of the page numbers.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
I agree completely. Since "flexible" tab stops exist only for
tables
of contents, they should be independent of paragraph formatting.

The obvious exception would be when you've explicitly set tab
stops
for a TOC style. Then you certainly don't want Word to
automatically
adjust them. (Of course, the application wouldn't know which tab
stop
to adjust, either, if there were several of them.)

Things would be easier if Word also allowed for tab stops to be
set
relative to the right margin. Then there would be no need for the
"flexible" tab stops.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
That's good news, but kind of perverse. Styles define many
settings,
including font, tab settings, and paragraph settings. But tabs
aren't part
of paragraph formatting per se (that is, they're not set in the
Format
Paragraph dialog), so it's no more reasonable for a change in
Space
Before/After to affect tabs than for a change in font to do so.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
At least changing to italic, bold, underline, and a different
font
size can be done without "locking" the tab stop.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Yes, and to further clarify, in addition to bolding TOC 1, I
later
realized
I had added some Space Before. So it's possible that font
formatting
alone
would not prevent the tab stop from being updated, but
paragraph
formatting
would. Testing would be required to determine what changes,
if
any,
can be
made without affecting the "elasticity" of the style.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Thank you for the insight. That certainly explains why, in
my
experience, updating the TOC "sometimes" makes the
right-aligned
tab
stop adjust to page margins!

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in
message
...
Update: I have just had an experience on the basis of
which
I am
prepared to
offer a tentative analysis of this behavior. I had a
document
with
1" left
and right margins and a TOC. I changed the L and R
margins
to
1.25".
The TOC
now extended half an inch into the right margin. I
updated
the
entire table,
and the tab setting in the TOC 2 and TOC 3 paragraphs
was
updated.
They were
in their default format. In TOC 1, which I had modified
(by
bolding
it--not
by moving the tab stop), the tab setting was not
updated. So
it
would appear
that *any* modification to the style will prevent the
tab
setting
from being
updated.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in
message
...
"Sometimes" isn't really reliable, is it? g I don't
have
enough
experience
to be dogmatic about this, but my recollection is that
it's
never
happened
for me, and I don't usually "bother" the automatic tab
stop.
But I
certainly
won't question your experience, which is probably
broader
than
mine.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all
follow-ups
to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message

...
In my experience, Word sometimes does this (unless
of
course
you
have
explicitly modified the tab stops). It could be a
version
issue,
I
guess.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'd think that would work, but IME Word never
moves
the
tab
stop
even
if
you have changed the margins.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all
follow-ups
to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in
message
...
But note that it might be easier than modifying
tab
stops.
First try
to update the TOC: Either right-click it and
choose
"Update
field"
or
place the cursor inside it and press F9. Make
sure
that
you
select
to
update the entire table, if prompted.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in
message
...
What exactly is the problem? If the page
numbers
don't
align
properly,
you can drag the tab stop to the desired
location.
It
should be
sufficient to do this once for each level
(because
the
TOC
styles
are
set to update automatically, by default).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"kaycee96"

wrote
in
message

...
I am having trouble changing the page
orientation to
landscape
in
a
set TOC