[Saltlick]

Hello,
I'm working in a lengthy manual, using mirror margins so that the document
has 2" of border on the outside of each portrait page. The doc will be
printed front and back. My problem is that I am unsure how to format the
footers. Currently, I am using first page, odd and even footers. Talk about a
complicated doc! Additionally, the Appendix has landscape documents as well.
The issues I am having are these:
1. The front matter is paginated with Roman numerals. They are not appearing
sequentially--why?
2. The chapters each have an intro page (odd-numbered) and a beginning page
(also odd-numbered). Word is not numbering any of these sections. I am having
to go in and manually number. How do I force it to number?
3. Each footer must contain a graphic jpeg of the company's logo. Wow. Word
footers sure don't like that arrangement with copyright text I have. On
mirror images, the footer is formatting differently on the odd and even
footers. How do I correct this?

Thanks for your help!
Salty

[Stefan Blom]

1. If you are saying that numbers are missing, note that you have to insert
page numbers separately for each type of footer (odd, even, continuous).
Also, in a document with multiple sections, each type of section can be
linked or unlinked to its "neighbor" in the preceding section. For more, see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...rontMatter.htm and
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm.

2. See above.

3. Is the logo positioned "In line with text"?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Saltlick" wrote in message
...
Hello,
I'm working in a lengthy manual, using mirror margins so that the document
has 2" of border on the outside of each portrait page. The doc will be
printed front and back. My problem is that I am unsure how to format the
footers. Currently, I am using first page, odd and even footers. Talk
about a
complicated doc! Additionally, the Appendix has landscape documents as
well.
The issues I am having are these:
1. The front matter is paginated with Roman numerals. They are not
appearing
sequentially--why?
2. The chapters each have an intro page (odd-numbered) and a beginning
page
(also odd-numbered). Word is not numbering any of these sections. I am
having
to go in and manually number. How do I force it to number?
3. Each footer must contain a graphic jpeg of the company's logo. Wow.
Word
footers sure don't like that arrangement with copyright text I have. On
mirror images, the footer is formatting differently on the odd and even
footers. How do I correct this?

Thanks for your help!
Salty

[Saltlick]

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

1. If you are saying that numbers are missing, note that you have to insert
page numbers separately for each type of footer (odd, even, continuous).
Also, in a document with multiple sections, each type of section can be
linked or unlinked to its "neighbor" in the preceding section. For more, see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...rontMatter.htm and
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm.

2. See above.

3. Is the logo positioned "In line with text"?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Saltlick" wrote in message
...
Hello,
I'm working in a lengthy manual, using mirror margins so that the document
has 2" of border on the outside of each portrait page. The doc will be
printed front and back. My problem is that I am unsure how to format the
footers. Currently, I am using first page, odd and even footers. Talk
about a
complicated doc! Additionally, the Appendix has landscape documents as
well.
The issues I am having are these:
1. The front matter is paginated with Roman numerals. They are not
appearing
sequentially--why?
2. The chapters each have an intro page (odd-numbered) and a beginning
page
(also odd-numbered). Word is not numbering any of these sections. I am
having
to go in and manually number. How do I force it to number?
3. Each footer must contain a graphic jpeg of the company's logo. Wow.
Word
footers sure don't like that arrangement with copyright text I have. On
mirror images, the footer is formatting differently on the odd and even
footers. How do I correct this?

Thanks for your help!
Salty



The article might be helpful if it was geared to Word 2007. I knew exactly how to do all this in Word 2003 and was all over it. Now, with the ribbon, it is almost impossible. Can you provide detailed steps to accomplish everything in Suzanne's article please? Why did Microsoft make this so complicated in 2007? ARGHHHHH!

[Charles W Davis]

Saltlick,
That is an extremely long article. For you to expect someone to rewrite it
for your benefit is kind of out of line.
If you would get over the "Why did they change..." attitude, you would find
that almost everthing discussed in that article applies to Word 2007. It'll
look a bit different, but there is little function added or deleted, just
the GUI has changed.
"Saltlick" wrote in message
...


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

1. If you are saying that numbers are missing, note that you have to
insert
page numbers separately for each type of footer (odd, even, continuous).
Also, in a document with multiple sections, each type of section can be
linked or unlinked to its "neighbor" in the preceding section. For more,
see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...rontMatter.htm and
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm.

2. See above.

3. Is the logo positioned "In line with text"?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Saltlick" wrote in message
...
Hello,
I'm working in a lengthy manual, using mirror margins so that the
document
has 2" of border on the outside of each portrait page. The doc will be
printed front and back. My problem is that I am unsure how to format
the
footers. Currently, I am using first page, odd and even footers. Talk
about a
complicated doc! Additionally, the Appendix has landscape documents as
well.
The issues I am having are these:
1. The front matter is paginated with Roman numerals. They are not
appearing
sequentially--why?
2. The chapters each have an intro page (odd-numbered) and a beginning
page
(also odd-numbered). Word is not numbering any of these sections. I am
having
to go in and manually number. How do I force it to number?
3. Each footer must contain a graphic jpeg of the company's logo. Wow.
Word
footers sure don't like that arrangement with copyright text I have. On
mirror images, the footer is formatting differently on the odd and even
footers. How do I correct this?

Thanks for your help!
Salty



The article might be helpful if it was geared to Word 2007. I knew
exactly how to do all this in Word 2003 and was all over it. Now, with
the ribbon, it is almost impossible. Can you provide detailed steps to
accomplish everything in Suzanne's article please? Why did Microsoft make
this so complicated in 2007? ARGHHHHH!

[Saltlick]

Isn't this the point to technical documentation? So that your user
understands how to use it?

I am not finding a logical work flow to creating different footers in Word
2007 and that is why I am asking for one. Surely the person who developed the
interface for Word 2007 followed a logic. If Microsoft--or any software
company for that matter--is changing their GUI, they should also update their
tech docs, so users understand these changes.

Perhaps I am out of line. I should be using FrameMaker for all my manuals.
Thanks for pointing this out.

Salty

"Charles W Davis" wrote:

Saltlick,
That is an extremely long article. For you to expect someone to rewrite it
for your benefit is kind of out of line.
If you would get over the "Why did they change..." attitude, you would find
that almost everthing discussed in that article applies to Word 2007. It'll
look a bit different, but there is little function added or deleted, just
the GUI has changed.
"Saltlick" wrote in message
...


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

1. If you are saying that numbers are missing, note that you have to
insert
page numbers separately for each type of footer (odd, even, continuous).
Also, in a document with multiple sections, each type of section can be
linked or unlinked to its "neighbor" in the preceding section. For more,
see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...rontMatter.htm and
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm.

2. See above.

3. Is the logo positioned "In line with text"?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Saltlick" wrote in message
...
Hello,
I'm working in a lengthy manual, using mirror margins so that the
document
has 2" of border on the outside of each portrait page. The doc will be
printed front and back. My problem is that I am unsure how to format
the
footers. Currently, I am using first page, odd and even footers. Talk
about a
complicated doc! Additionally, the Appendix has landscape documents as
well.
The issues I am having are these:
1. The front matter is paginated with Roman numerals. They are not
appearing
sequentially--why?
2. The chapters each have an intro page (odd-numbered) and a beginning
page
(also odd-numbered). Word is not numbering any of these sections. I am
having
to go in and manually number. How do I force it to number?
3. Each footer must contain a graphic jpeg of the company's logo. Wow.
Word
footers sure don't like that arrangement with copyright text I have. On
mirror images, the footer is formatting differently on the odd and even
footers. How do I correct this?

Thanks for your help!
Salty



The article might be helpful if it was geared to Word 2007. I knew
exactly how to do all this in Word 2003 and was all over it. Now, with
the ribbon, it is almost impossible. Can you provide detailed steps to
accomplish everything in Suzanne's article please? Why did Microsoft make
this so complicated in 2007? ARGHHHHH!

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

You need to understand that the "tech docs" you've been pointed to are not
created by Microsoft but by peer volunteers. As it happens, I wrote both of
those articles. I am not yet using Word 2007, so I have been unable to
update any of my articles yet.

Perhaps you also don't understand that you are not addressing Microsoft in
this forum, either. All the support here is provided by other users.

If you want to consult official MS documentation, I suggest you start at
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Saltlick" wrote in message
...
Isn't this the point to technical documentation? So that your user
understands how to use it?

I am not finding a logical work flow to creating different footers in Word
2007 and that is why I am asking for one. Surely the person who developed
the
interface for Word 2007 followed a logic. If Microsoft--or any software
company for that matter--is changing their GUI, they should also update
their
tech docs, so users understand these changes.

Perhaps I am out of line. I should be using FrameMaker for all my manuals.
Thanks for pointing this out.

Salty

"Charles W Davis" wrote:

Saltlick,
That is an extremely long article. For you to expect someone to rewrite
it
for your benefit is kind of out of line.
If you would get over the "Why did they change..." attitude, you would
find
that almost everthing discussed in that article applies to Word 2007.
It'll
look a bit different, but there is little function added or deleted,
just
the GUI has changed.
"Saltlick" wrote in message
...


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

1. If you are saying that numbers are missing, note that you have to
insert
page numbers separately for each type of footer (odd, even,
continuous).
Also, in a document with multiple sections, each type of section can
be
linked or unlinked to its "neighbor" in the preceding section. For
more,
see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...rontMatter.htm and
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm.

2. See above.

3. Is the logo positioned "In line with text"?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Saltlick" wrote in message
...
Hello,
I'm working in a lengthy manual, using mirror margins so that the
document
has 2" of border on the outside of each portrait page. The doc will
be
printed front and back. My problem is that I am unsure how to
format
the
footers. Currently, I am using first page, odd and even footers.
Talk
about a
complicated doc! Additionally, the Appendix has landscape documents
as
well.
The issues I am having are these:
1. The front matter is paginated with Roman numerals. They are not
appearing
sequentially--why?
2. The chapters each have an intro page (odd-numbered) and a
beginning
page
(also odd-numbered). Word is not numbering any of these sections. I
am
having
to go in and manually number. How do I force it to number?
3. Each footer must contain a graphic jpeg of the company's logo.
Wow.
Word
footers sure don't like that arrangement with copyright text I
have. On
mirror images, the footer is formatting differently on the odd and
even
footers. How do I correct this?

Thanks for your help!
Salty



The article might be helpful if it was geared to Word 2007. I knew
exactly how to do all this in Word 2003 and was all over it. Now,
with
the ribbon, it is almost impossible. Can you provide detailed steps
to
accomplish everything in Suzanne's article please? Why did Microsoft
make
this so complicated in 2007? ARGHHHHH!

[Stefan Blom]

As Charles wrote, the concepts are pretty much the same, but the commands
have new locations (which, of course, could be confusing at times). After
you've activated the header/footer area (you can do this by double-clicking
the header or footer), you'll note the following: The Link to Previous
command, previously on the Header and Footer toolbar, is now on the ribbon
(on the Header & Footer Tools / Design tab). You can access "Different first
page" and "Different odd and even" on the same tab (or, as before, in the
Page Setup dialog box).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Saltlick" wrote in message
...


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

1. If you are saying that numbers are missing, note that you have to
insert
page numbers separately for each type of footer (odd, even, continuous).
Also, in a document with multiple sections, each type of section can be
linked or unlinked to its "neighbor" in the preceding section. For more,
see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...rontMatter.htm and
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm.

2. See above.

3. Is the logo positioned "In line with text"?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Saltlick" wrote in message
...
Hello,
I'm working in a lengthy manual, using mirror margins so that the
document
has 2" of border on the outside of each portrait page. The doc will be
printed front and back. My problem is that I am unsure how to format
the
footers. Currently, I am using first page, odd and even footers. Talk
about a
complicated doc! Additionally, the Appendix has landscape documents as
well.
The issues I am having are these:
1. The front matter is paginated with Roman numerals. They are not
appearing
sequentially--why?
2. The chapters each have an intro page (odd-numbered) and a beginning
page
(also odd-numbered). Word is not numbering any of these sections. I am
having
to go in and manually number. How do I force it to number?
3. Each footer must contain a graphic jpeg of the company's logo. Wow.
Word
footers sure don't like that arrangement with copyright text I have. On
mirror images, the footer is formatting differently on the odd and even
footers. How do I correct this?

Thanks for your help!
Salty



The article might be helpful if it was geared to Word 2007. I knew
exactly how to do all this in Word 2003 and was all over it. Now, with
the ribbon, it is almost impossible. Can you provide detailed steps to
accomplish everything in Suzanne's article please? Why did Microsoft make
this so complicated in 2007? ARGHHHHH!

[Saltlick]

Thank you, Suzanne. Perhaps I'll "ramp up" to Word 2007, using a simpler
manual.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You need to understand that the "tech docs" you've been pointed to are not
created by Microsoft but by peer volunteers. As it happens, I wrote both of
those articles. I am not yet using Word 2007, so I have been unable to
update any of my articles yet.

Perhaps you also don't understand that you are not addressing Microsoft in
this forum, either. All the support here is provided by other users.

If you want to consult official MS documentation, I suggest you start at
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Saltlick" wrote in message
...
Isn't this the point to technical documentation? So that your user
understands how to use it?

I am not finding a logical work flow to creating different footers in Word
2007 and that is why I am asking for one. Surely the person who developed
the
interface for Word 2007 followed a logic. If Microsoft--or any software
company for that matter--is changing their GUI, they should also update
their
tech docs, so users understand these changes.

Perhaps I am out of line. I should be using FrameMaker for all my manuals.
Thanks for pointing this out.

Salty

"Charles W Davis" wrote:

Saltlick,
That is an extremely long article. For you to expect someone to rewrite
it
for your benefit is kind of out of line.
If you would get over the "Why did they change..." attitude, you would
find
that almost everthing discussed in that article applies to Word 2007.
It'll
look a bit different, but there is little function added or deleted,
just
the GUI has changed.
"Saltlick" wrote in message
...


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

1. If you are saying that numbers are missing, note that you have to
insert
page numbers separately for each type of footer (odd, even,
continuous).
Also, in a document with multiple sections, each type of section can
be
linked or unlinked to its "neighbor" in the preceding section. For
more,
see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...rontMatter.htm and
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm.

2. See above.

3. Is the logo positioned "In line with text"?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Saltlick" wrote in message
...
Hello,
I'm working in a lengthy manual, using mirror margins so that the
document
has 2" of border on the outside of each portrait page. The doc will
be
printed front and back. My problem is that I am unsure how to
format
the
footers. Currently, I am using first page, odd and even footers.
Talk
about a
complicated doc! Additionally, the Appendix has landscape documents
as
well.
The issues I am having are these:
1. The front matter is paginated with Roman numerals. They are not
appearing
sequentially--why?
2. The chapters each have an intro page (odd-numbered) and a
beginning
page
(also odd-numbered). Word is not numbering any of these sections. I
am
having
to go in and manually number. How do I force it to number?
3. Each footer must contain a graphic jpeg of the company's logo.
Wow.
Word
footers sure don't like that arrangement with copyright text I
have. On
mirror images, the footer is formatting differently on the odd and
even
footers. How do I correct this?

Thanks for your help!
Salty



The article might be helpful if it was geared to Word 2007. I knew
exactly how to do all this in Word 2003 and was all over it. Now,
with
the ribbon, it is almost impossible. Can you provide detailed steps
to
accomplish everything in Suzanne's article please? Why did Microsoft
make
this so complicated in 2007? ARGHHHHH!

[Saltlick]

Thank you, Stefan.

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

As Charles wrote, the concepts are pretty much the same, but the commands
have new locations (which, of course, could be confusing at times). After
you've activated the header/footer area (you can do this by double-clicking
the header or footer), you'll note the following: The Link to Previous
command, previously on the Header and Footer toolbar, is now on the ribbon
(on the Header & Footer Tools / Design tab). You can access "Different first
page" and "Different odd and even" on the same tab (or, as before, in the
Page Setup dialog box).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Saltlick" wrote in message
...


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

1. If you are saying that numbers are missing, note that you have to
insert
page numbers separately for each type of footer (odd, even, continuous).
Also, in a document with multiple sections, each type of section can be
linked or unlinked to its "neighbor" in the preceding section. For more,
see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...rontMatter.htm and
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm.

2. See above.

3. Is the logo positioned "In line with text"?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Saltlick" wrote in message
...
Hello,
I'm working in a lengthy manual, using mirror margins so that the
document
has 2" of border on the outside of each portrait page. The doc will be
printed front and back. My problem is that I am unsure how to format
the
footers. Currently, I am using first page, odd and even footers. Talk
about a
complicated doc! Additionally, the Appendix has landscape documents as
well.
The issues I am having are these:
1. The front matter is paginated with Roman numerals. They are not
appearing
sequentially--why?
2. The chapters each have an intro page (odd-numbered) and a beginning
page
(also odd-numbered). Word is not numbering any of these sections. I am
having
to go in and manually number. How do I force it to number?
3. Each footer must contain a graphic jpeg of the company's logo. Wow.
Word
footers sure don't like that arrangement with copyright text I have. On
mirror images, the footer is formatting differently on the odd and even
footers. How do I correct this?

Thanks for your help!
Salty



The article might be helpful if it was geared to Word 2007. I knew
exactly how to do all this in Word 2003 and was all over it. Now, with
the ribbon, it is almost impossible. Can you provide detailed steps to
accomplish everything in Suzanne's article please? Why did Microsoft make
this so complicated in 2007? ARGHHHHH!

[Stefan Blom]

Glad I could help.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Saltlick" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Stefan.

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

As Charles wrote, the concepts are pretty much the same, but the commands
have new locations (which, of course, could be confusing at times). After
you've activated the header/footer area (you can do this by
double-clicking
the header or footer), you'll note the following: The Link to Previous
command, previously on the Header and Footer toolbar, is now on the
ribbon
(on the Header & Footer Tools / Design tab). You can access "Different
first
page" and "Different odd and even" on the same tab (or, as before, in the
Page Setup dialog box).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Saltlick" wrote in message
...


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

1. If you are saying that numbers are missing, note that you have to
insert
page numbers separately for each type of footer (odd, even,
continuous).
Also, in a document with multiple sections, each type of section can
be
linked or unlinked to its "neighbor" in the preceding section. For
more,
see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...rontMatter.htm and
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm.

2. See above.

3. Is the logo positioned "In line with text"?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Saltlick" wrote in message
...
Hello,
I'm working in a lengthy manual, using mirror margins so that the
document
has 2" of border on the outside of each portrait page. The doc will
be
printed front and back. My problem is that I am unsure how to format
the
footers. Currently, I am using first page, odd and even footers.
Talk
about a
complicated doc! Additionally, the Appendix has landscape documents
as
well.
The issues I am having are these:
1. The front matter is paginated with Roman numerals. They are not
appearing
sequentially--why?
2. The chapters each have an intro page (odd-numbered) and a
beginning
page
(also odd-numbered). Word is not numbering any of these sections. I
am
having
to go in and manually number. How do I force it to number?
3. Each footer must contain a graphic jpeg of the company's logo.
Wow.
Word
footers sure don't like that arrangement with copyright text I have.
On
mirror images, the footer is formatting differently on the odd and
even
footers. How do I correct this?

Thanks for your help!
Salty



The article might be helpful if it was geared to Word 2007. I knew
exactly how to do all this in Word 2003 and was all over it. Now, with
the ribbon, it is almost impossible. Can you provide detailed steps to
accomplish everything in Suzanne's article please? Why did Microsoft
make
this so complicated in 2007? ARGHHHHH!