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How do I format a floppy disc for word?
The last time I saved a project to my "a" drive and put in my disc it stated
that the disc was not formatted and I could not open the files saved to that disc. |
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First of all, DoNot attempt to save directly to a floppy or open a file on a
floppy through Word. Always save/copy to your hard disk _first_, work with that file then copy it back to a floppy when finished. The disk may be formatted, but the error may have come up if you were trying to save directly to it. Formatting of disks (floppy or otherwise) is done using the Operating System. When you put an unformatted disk in you should be prompted to format it then. If not, Open My Computer as a window, right-click the floppy (A: Drive) icon and choose Format form the shortcut menu. HTH |:) "mopman45" wrote: The last time I saved a project to my "a" drive and put in my disc it stated that the disc was not formatted and I could not open the files saved to that disc. |
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Thank you. This has been most helpful to me.
"CyberTaz" wrote: First of all, DoNot attempt to save directly to a floppy or open a file on a floppy through Word. Always save/copy to your hard disk _first_, work with that file then copy it back to a floppy when finished. The disk may be formatted, but the error may have come up if you were trying to save directly to it. Formatting of disks (floppy or otherwise) is done using the Operating System. When you put an unformatted disk in you should be prompted to format it then. If not, Open My Computer as a window, right-click the floppy (A: Drive) icon and choose Format form the shortcut menu. HTH |:) "mopman45" wrote: The last time I saved a project to my "a" drive and put in my disc it stated that the disc was not formatted and I could not open the files saved to that disc. |
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"CyberTaz" wrote:
First of all, DoNot attempt to save directly to a floppy or open a file on a floppy through Word. Always save/copy to your hard disk _first_, work with that file then copy it back to a floppy when finished. The disk may be formatted, but the error may have come up if you were trying to save directly to it. I'm just curious, myself. Why is this? Now, personally, I would never save directly to a floppy first because I do not trust them. I always save to my computer first just so I know I have a copy. Floppy disks can be tempremental. Is this why you suggest this to MopMan, or are you saying that you really should not even ever save to a floppy disk from Word? If the latter, that sounds kind of strange to me. Why is that? Why would you not be able to save anything to any drive you want? I am just curious. I don't even use floppy disks anymore. -- Have a nice day! ~Paul Express Scripts, Charting the future of pharmacy ~~~~~~ | | |c--OD | _) | | |-. | / `-# /A / /_|..`#.J/ ||LJ `m'' ptaylor |
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Hi Paul,
We -- CyberTaz, all the MVPs, and anyone who's worked with Word for a while -- really mean DO NOT SAVE DIRECTLY FROM WORD TO A FLOPPY DO NOT OPEN IN WORD DIRECTLY FROM A FLOPPY The reason is that Word creates lots of temporary files (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=211632), and many of them *must* be in the same folder as the original document. If the original is on a floppy, the temp files are there, too. If there isn't enough room on the disk for everything, Word corrupts the document. If you forget that there's a document (and all its temp files) open and you remove the floppy from the drive, Word corrupts the document. If you sneeze during the wrong phase of the moon, Word corrupts the document. Besides that, it's slow as molasses... Some of these problems occur on any removable media, including Zip drives, CD-RWs, and even USB memory sticks. Better not to tempt fate -- work on the hard drive only. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Paul (ESI) wrote: "CyberTaz" wrote: First of all, DoNot attempt to save directly to a floppy or open a file on a floppy through Word. Always save/copy to your hard disk _first_, work with that file then copy it back to a floppy when finished. The disk may be formatted, but the error may have come up if you were trying to save directly to it. I'm just curious, myself. Why is this? Now, personally, I would never save directly to a floppy first because I do not trust them. I always save to my computer first just so I know I have a copy. Floppy disks can be tempremental. Is this why you suggest this to MopMan, or are you saying that you really should not even ever save to a floppy disk from Word? If the latter, that sounds kind of strange to me. Why is that? Why would you not be able to save anything to any drive you want? I am just curious. I don't even use floppy disks anymore. |
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Can't say it any clearer than Jay did, buth here's one more point to add...
just keep in mind that in the past 25 years: Hard disks have gone from 5MB to well over 360GB capacity, Hard disks have gone from 3200 RPM to 7200 RPM, CPU's from 4.77MHz to 2GHz, RAM capacity from 640KB to 4GB, and floppy drive technology Has _Not_ Changed at all. Any questions? Regards |:) "Paul (ESI)" wrote: "CyberTaz" wrote: First of all, DoNot attempt to save directly to a floppy or open a file on a floppy through Word. Always save/copy to your hard disk _first_, work with that file then copy it back to a floppy when finished. The disk may be formatted, but the error may have come up if you were trying to save directly to it. I'm just curious, myself. Why is this? Now, personally, I would never save directly to a floppy first because I do not trust them. I always save to my computer first just so I know I have a copy. Floppy disks can be tempremental. Is this why you suggest this to MopMan, or are you saying that you really should not even ever save to a floppy disk from Word? If the latter, that sounds kind of strange to me. Why is that? Why would you not be able to save anything to any drive you want? I am just curious. I don't even use floppy disks anymore. -- Have a nice day! ~Paul Express Scripts, Charting the future of pharmacy ~~~~~~ | | |c--OD | _) | | |-. | / `-# /A / /_|..`#.J/ ||LJ `m'' ptaylor |
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I believe that processor speeds are nudging 4 gHz. They're at least at 3.80
RAM capacity is up to 8GB -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "CyberTaz" wrote in message ... Can't say it any clearer than Jay did, buth here's one more point to add... just keep in mind that in the past 25 years: Hard disks have gone from 5MB to well over 360GB capacity, Hard disks have gone from 3200 RPM to 7200 RPM, CPU's from 4.77MHz to 2GHz, RAM capacity from 640KB to 4GB, and floppy drive technology Has _Not_ Changed at all. Any questions? Regards |:) "Paul (ESI)" wrote: "CyberTaz" wrote: First of all, DoNot attempt to save directly to a floppy or open a file on a floppy through Word. Always save/copy to your hard disk _first_, work with that file then copy it back to a floppy when finished. The disk may be formatted, but the error may have come up if you were trying to save directly to it. I'm just curious, myself. Why is this? Now, personally, I would never save directly to a floppy first because I do not trust them. I always save to my computer first just so I know I have a copy. Floppy disks can be tempremental. Is this why you suggest this to MopMan, or are you saying that you really should not even ever save to a floppy disk from Word? If the latter, that sounds kind of strange to me. Why is that? Why would you not be able to save anything to any drive you want? I am just curious. I don't even use floppy disks anymore. -- Have a nice day! ~Paul Express Scripts, Charting the future of pharmacy ~~~~~~ | | |c--OD | _) | | |-. | / `-# /A / /_|..`#.J/ ||LJ `m'' ptaylor |
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Sorry, I must have dozed off for an hour... But floppies still haven't
changed. Regards |:) On 8/16/05 6:06 PM, in article , "Doug Robbins" wrote: I believe that processor speeds are nudging 4 gHz. They're at least at 3.80 RAM capacity is up to 8GB |
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Wow! Thanks, folks. That's good to know. I would never have thought Word
would have so many problems with something that seems so common. I've always saved to the hard drive first (just so I have a copy I know I can trust), but I'd often then save directly from word to a floppy, zip drive, or more recently my USB flash drive. I won't do that anymore. I'll copy. Good point, CyberTaz. Of course, sometimes there is just nowhere to go, and media becomes obsolete. Look at VHS. That technology stayed pretty much exactly the same for a long time, and is now virtually completely replaced by DVD. Look at casette tapes. They stayed pretty much exactly the same for a long time, and have now been virtually completely replaced by CDs. Believe it or not, they still make casette tapes, though. LOL. The same thing is kinda happening to floppy disks. Zip drives, CD-RW, USB Flash drives, floppy disks are just becoming a thing of the past. Heck, computers don't even always come with floppy drives as a standard anymore. Remember back when that would be unheard of? -- Have a nice day! ~Paul Express Scripts, Charting the future of pharmacy ~~~~~~ | | |c--OD | _) | | |-. | / `-# /A / /_|..`#.J/ ||LJ `m'' ptaylor "CyberTaz" wrote: Sorry, I must have dozed off for an hour... But floppies still haven't changed. Regards |:) On 8/16/05 6:06 PM, in article , "Doug Robbins" wrote: I believe that processor speeds are nudging 4 gHz. They're at least at 3.80 RAM capacity is up to 8GB |
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To a lesser extent, the problems with working in Word with floppies apply to
all removable media, especially CDs. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Paul (ESI)" wrote in message ... Wow! Thanks, folks. That's good to know. I would never have thought Word would have so many problems with something that seems so common. I've always saved to the hard drive first (just so I have a copy I know I can trust), but I'd often then save directly from word to a floppy, zip drive, or more recently my USB flash drive. I won't do that anymore. I'll copy. Good point, CyberTaz. Of course, sometimes there is just nowhere to go, and media becomes obsolete. Look at VHS. That technology stayed pretty much exactly the same for a long time, and is now virtually completely replaced by DVD. Look at casette tapes. They stayed pretty much exactly the same for a long time, and have now been virtually completely replaced by CDs. Believe it or not, they still make casette tapes, though. LOL. The same thing is kinda happening to floppy disks. Zip drives, CD-RW, USB Flash drives, floppy disks are just becoming a thing of the past. Heck, computers don't even always come with floppy drives as a standard anymore. Remember back when that would be unheard of? -- Have a nice day! ~Paul Express Scripts, Charting the future of pharmacy ~~~~~~ | | |c--OD | _) | | |-. | / `-# /A / /_|..`#.J/ ||LJ `m'' ptaylor "CyberTaz" wrote: Sorry, I must have dozed off for an hour... But floppies still haven't changed. Regards |:) On 8/16/05 6:06 PM, in article , "Doug Robbins" wrote: I believe that processor speeds are nudging 4 gHz. They're at least at 3.80 RAM capacity is up to 8GB |
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That's good to know. Strange, but good to know. I wonder if it is something
Microsoft could possibly fix in the future. -- Have a nice day! ~Paul Express Scripts, Charting the future of pharmacy ~~~~~~ | | |c--OD | _) | | |-. | / `-# /A / /_|..`#.J/ ||LJ `m'' ptaylor "Charles Kenyon" wrote: To a lesser extent, the problems with working in Word with floppies apply to all removable media, especially CDs. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Paul (ESI)" wrote in message ... Wow! Thanks, folks. That's good to know. I would never have thought Word would have so many problems with something that seems so common. I've always saved to the hard drive first (just so I have a copy I know I can trust), but I'd often then save directly from word to a floppy, zip drive, or more recently my USB flash drive. I won't do that anymore. I'll copy. Good point, CyberTaz. Of course, sometimes there is just nowhere to go, and media becomes obsolete. Look at VHS. That technology stayed pretty much exactly the same for a long time, and is now virtually completely replaced by DVD. Look at casette tapes. They stayed pretty much exactly the same for a long time, and have now been virtually completely replaced by CDs. Believe it or not, they still make casette tapes, though. LOL. The same thing is kinda happening to floppy disks. Zip drives, CD-RW, USB Flash drives, floppy disks are just becoming a thing of the past. Heck, computers don't even always come with floppy drives as a standard anymore. Remember back when that would be unheard of? -- Have a nice day! ~Paul Express Scripts, Charting the future of pharmacy ~~~~~~ | | |c--OD | _) | | |-. | / `-# /A / /_|..`#.J/ ||LJ `m'' ptaylor "CyberTaz" wrote: Sorry, I must have dozed off for an hour... But floppies still haven't changed. Regards |:) On 8/16/05 6:06 PM, in article , "Doug Robbins" wrote: I believe that processor speeds are nudging 4 gHz. They're at least at 3.80 RAM capacity is up to 8GB |
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I'm sure they won't (probably can't) fix it for floppies. Fixing for CDs
would also be difficult; I think the problem arises because writing to a CD is substantially slower than writing to a hard drive. Another possible problem is that files written to CDs do not really delete, even with CD-RW; the only way to really get rid of them is to reformat the disk. I've been told that it is a problem even with flash drives; not sure why, but limited size comes to mind. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Paul (ESI)" wrote in message ... That's good to know. Strange, but good to know. I wonder if it is something Microsoft could possibly fix in the future. -- Have a nice day! ~Paul Express Scripts, Charting the future of pharmacy ~~~~~~ | | |c--OD | _) | | |-. | / `-# /A / /_|..`#.J/ ||LJ `m'' ptaylor "Charles Kenyon" wrote: To a lesser extent, the problems with working in Word with floppies apply to all removable media, especially CDs. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Paul (ESI)" wrote in message ... Wow! Thanks, folks. That's good to know. I would never have thought Word would have so many problems with something that seems so common. I've always saved to the hard drive first (just so I have a copy I know I can trust), but I'd often then save directly from word to a floppy, zip drive, or more recently my USB flash drive. I won't do that anymore. I'll copy. Good point, CyberTaz. Of course, sometimes there is just nowhere to go, and media becomes obsolete. Look at VHS. That technology stayed pretty much exactly the same for a long time, and is now virtually completely replaced by DVD. Look at casette tapes. They stayed pretty much exactly the same for a long time, and have now been virtually completely replaced by CDs. Believe it or not, they still make casette tapes, though. LOL. The same thing is kinda happening to floppy disks. Zip drives, CD-RW, USB Flash drives, floppy disks are just becoming a thing of the past. Heck, computers don't even always come with floppy drives as a standard anymore. Remember back when that would be unheard of? -- Have a nice day! ~Paul Express Scripts, Charting the future of pharmacy ~~~~~~ | | |c--OD | _) | | |-. | / `-# /A / /_|..`#.J/ ||LJ `m'' ptaylor "CyberTaz" wrote: Sorry, I must have dozed off for an hour... But floppies still haven't changed. Regards |:) On 8/16/05 6:06 PM, in article , "Doug Robbins" wrote: I believe that processor speeds are nudging 4 gHz. They're at least at 3.80 RAM capacity is up to 8GB |
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In , Charles Kenyon told us an
interesting story. My reply to this story is at the bottom of this message. I'm sure they won't (probably can't) fix it for floppies. Fixing for CDs would also be difficult; I think the problem arises because writing to a CD is substantially slower than writing to a hard drive. Another possible problem is that files written to CDs do not really delete, even with CD-RW; the only way to really get rid of them is to reformat the disk. I've been told that it is a problem even with flash drives; not sure why, but limited size comes to mind. With flash drives, it's not size that matters ;-) /Usually/ flash drives don't have this "floppy" problem. However the flash drives can only be written to a couple tens of thousands times. (Gargoyle if you want exact numbers) For normal use this ought to be enough, but we had cutsomers that had a foxpro database on an usb flash drive. Database = continuous i/o. After a couple of months or a year or so, we got reports about corrupted files, which we could only attribute to flash failure. By the way if we're bragging about hw specs: I only have 1GB RAM, but I do have 3GHz of 64-bit processing power on my home pc. And an OS that can make use of all that raw 64-bit horsepower. Groovy! -- Amedee Van Gasse |
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How do I format a floppy disc for word?
"mopman45" wrote: The last time I saved a project to my "a" drive and put in my disc it stated that the disc was not formatted and I could not open the files saved to that disc. |
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How do I format a floppy disc for word?
Are you asking a question or did you hit Send too soon?
-- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] "SWBABEGIRL" wrote in message ... "mopman45" wrote: The last time I saved a project to my "a" drive and put in my disc it stated that the disc was not formatted and I could not open the files saved to that disc. |
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How do I format a floppy disc for word?
This error message just indicates that Word can't read the file, probably
because it is corrupted. It is probably corrupted because you tried to open it from (or save it directly to) a floppy disk. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "SWBABEGIRL" wrote in message ... "mopman45" wrote: The last time I saved a project to my "a" drive and put in my disc it stated that the disc was not formatted and I could not open the files saved to that disc. |
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How do I format a floppy disc for word?
The last time I saved a projectto my 3and 1/2 floppy disk it stated
that my disk has been formated by machintosh and is therefore unable to save "mopman45" wrote: The last time I saved a project to my "a" drive and put in my disc it stated that the disc was not formatted and I could not open the files saved to that disc. |
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How do I format a floppy disc for word?
That's not gonna work, is it?
-- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 " m wrote in message ... The last time I saved a projectto my 3and 1/2 floppy disk it stated that my disk has been formated by machintosh and is therefore unable to save "mopman45" wrote: The last time I saved a project to my "a" drive and put in my disc it stated that the disc was not formatted and I could not open the files saved to that disc. |
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