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Problem displaying Chinese characters
I was having difficulties getting downloaded Chinese subtitles to display
properly in avi files. I finally managed to solve that problem using BSPlayer, all the other apps I tried just gave me gibberish. But that's not what I'm asking for help with here. There's something I don't understand. I downloaded the Chinese subtitles from a Chinese website. The subtitle filetype is srt. However, when I open the subtitle file in Notepad, all I see are nonsense characters that look like this: ÕâÊÇÄãÃÇÄܼ¯ºÏµÄ°®ºÃ But when I open the same srt subtitle file in Word, I get a File Conversion options window asking me to choose one of the following: 1 Windows (Default) 2 MS-DOS 3 Other encoding (choose Chinese Simplified (GB2312)) Choosing the 'Other encoding' option properly displays the Chinese characters My question: why don't the Chinese characters display properly when I open the srt file in Notepad? Why does Word have to 'convert' the file for the Chinese characters to display propery? When the file is open in Notepad, even changing the default font to a Chinese Font doesn't help - the characters then display as square boxes. My XP system-default language is English, but I have system-wide language support enabled for both traditional and simplified Chinese in the Regional and Language Options section of the WindowsXP Control Panel, and I have never had any problems viewing or typing Chinese into Word, Notepad, or my browser. XP will allow me to give files Chinese names. I have installed additional simplified and traditional Chinese fonts in the Fonts folder. If I copy Chinese text from the web, I can paste it into a .txt file and save it. So what is it about these Chinese srt files that they will not display properly when opened in Notepad? I assume these subtitle files were originally created by someone who had Chinese as the default OS language on his computer; and when I open these files in Notepad on a Chinese firiend's computer who has Chinese as the default system language, the files correctly display in Chinese, so why not on my computer? Please note that I am not trying to 'fix' Notepad, I merely wish to understand why the file won't display properly, as I think this is the key to solving other related problems. Thanks |
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Before Unicode, there were competing encodings of CJK, and maybe the
source of your subtitles is using one of those. On Sep 17, 12:46*am, Zerosum wrote: I was having difficulties getting downloaded Chinese subtitles to display properly in avi files. I finally managed to solve that problem using BSPlayer, all the other apps I tried just gave me gibberish. But that's not what I'm asking for help with here. There's something I don't understand. I downloaded the Chinese subtitles from a Chinese website. The subtitle filetype is srt. However, when I open the subtitle file in Notepad, all I see are nonsense characters that look like this: ܼϵİ But when I open the same srt subtitle file in Word, I get a File Conversion options window asking me to choose one of the following: 1 Windows (Default) 2 MS-DOS 3 Other encoding (choose Chinese Simplified (GB2312)) Choosing the 'Other encoding' option properly displays the Chinese characters My question: why don't the Chinese characters display properly when I open the srt file in Notepad? Why does Word have to 'convert' the file for the Chinese characters to display propery? When the file is open in Notepad, even changing the default font to a Chinese Font doesn't help - the characters then display as square boxes. My XP system-default language is English, but I have system-wide language support enabled for both traditional and simplified Chinese in the Regional and Language Options section of the WindowsXP Control Panel, and I have never had any problems viewing or typing Chinese into Word, Notepad, or my browser. XP will allow me to give files Chinese names. I have installed additional simplified and traditional Chinese fonts in the Fonts folder. If I copy Chinese text from the web, I can paste it into a .txt file and save it. So what is it about these Chinese srt files that they will not display properly when opened in Notepad? I assume these subtitle files were originally created by someone who had Chinese as the default OS language on his computer; and when I open these files in Notepad on a Chinese firiend's computer who has Chinese as the default system language, the files correctly display in Chinese, so why not on my computer? Please note that I am not trying to 'fix' Notepad, I merely wish to understand why the file won't display properly, as I think this is the key to solving other related problems. Thanks |
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But then why do the subtitle files correctly display the Chinese characters
when opened in Notepad on a Windows XP computer that has Chinese as the default system language (as is the case with my friend), but not display on my computer even tho I have enabled support for Chinese in Regional and Language Options? "grammatim" wrote: Before Unicode, there were competing encodings of CJK, and maybe the source of your subtitles is using one of those. |
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Within Chinese support, there are different "encodings" of the
characters -- just as some "encodings" let you see accented letters in email and others don't. The sender and receiver have to have their systems set to the same "encoding." These days, Unicode is becoming the world-wide standard, but older CJK systems (perhaps especially ones from Hong Kong) may still use older encodings. Somewhere in your downloading setup there's a place to specify the encoding used in any particular message (but that's not a Word matter). On Sep 17, 12:48*pm, Zerosum wrote: But then why do the subtitle files correctly display the Chinese characters when opened in Notepad on a Windows XP computer that has Chinese as the default system language (as is the case with my friend), but not display on my computer even tho I have enabled support for Chinese in Regional and Language Options? "grammatim" wrote: Before Unicode, there were competing encodings of CJK, and maybe the source of your subtitles is using one of those.- |
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Thanks for the reply.
That makes sense, and it would seem to imply that my Chinese friend can read these srt files opend directly in Notepad on his system because Notepad in a Chinese XP OS has the native ability to read a greater variety of encodings than Notepad on an English XP OS that has had Chinese language support enabled via Regional and Language Options. I assume this is also the reason why some of the Chinese language emails I receive are gibberish; i.e, that email was encoded with something other than unicode. "grammatim" wrote: Within Chinese support, there are different "encodings" of the characters -- just as some "encodings" let you see accented letters in email and others don't. The sender and receiver have to have their systems set to the same "encoding." These days, Unicode is becoming the world-wide standard, but older CJK systems (perhaps especially ones from Hong Kong) may still use older encodings. Somewhere in your downloading setup there's a place to specify the encoding used in any particular message (but that's not a Word matter). |
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Depending on what email system you use, you should have a setting
somewhere to tell it which encoding to use, so that you can read the Chinese in whichever format it comes to you. (In Internet Explorer, it's under the Page menu, and the only option for Chinese Traditional is Big5, which is pre-Unicode. There are three for Chinese Simplified but I don't know the difference among them.) I can read the Chinese spam I get regularly (not that i can read Chinese), and the other day I even got one in Japanese! (Never one in Korean, though.) On Sep 21, 11:14*pm, Zerosum wrote: Thanks for the reply. That makes sense, and it would seem to imply that my Chinese friend can read these srt files opend directly in Notepad on his system because Notepad in a Chinese XP OS has the native ability to read a greater variety of encodings than Notepad on an English XP OS that has had Chinese language support enabled via Regional and Language Options. I assume this is also the reason why some of the Chinese language emails I receive are gibberish; i.e, that email was encoded with something other than unicode. "grammatim" wrote: Within Chinese support, there are different "encodings" of the characters -- just as some "encodings" let you see accented letters in email and others don't. The sender and receiver have to have their systems set to the same "encoding." These days, Unicode is becoming the world-wide standard, but older CJK systems (perhaps especially ones from Hong Kong) may still use older encodings. Somewhere in your downloading setup there's a place to specify the encoding used in any particular message (but that's not a Word matter).- |
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Zerosum wrote on 09/17/2008 00:46 ET :
I was having difficulties getting downloaded Chinese subtitles to display properly in avi files. I finally managed to solve that problem using BSPlayer, all the other apps I tried just gave me gibberish. But that's not what I'm asking for help with here. There's something I don't understand. I downloaded the Chinese subtitles from a Chinese website. The subtitle filetype is srt. However, when I open the subtitle file in Notepad, all I see are nonsense characters that look like this: ÕâÊÇÄã&agrav e;ÇÄܼ¯ºÏ&m icro;Ä°®ºà But when I open the same srt subtitle file in Word, I get a File Conversion options window asking me to choose one of the following: 1 Windows (Default) 2 MS-DOS 3 Other encoding (choose Chinese Simplified (GB2312)) Choosing the 'Other encoding' option properly displays the Chinese characters My question: why don't the Chinese characters display properly when I open the srt file in Notepad? Why does Word have to 'convert' the file for the Chinese characters to display propery? When the file is open in Notepad, even changing the default font to a Chinese Font doesn't help - the characters then display as square boxes. My XP system-default language is English, but I have system-wide language support enabled for both traditional and simplified Chinese in the Regional and Language Options section of the WindowsXP Control Panel, and I have never had any problems viewing or typing Chinese into Word, Notepad, or my browser. XP will allow me to give files Chinese names. I have installed additional simplified and traditional Chinese fonts in the Fonts folder. If I copy Chinese text from the web, I can paste it into a .txt file and save it. So what is it about these Chinese srt files that they will not display properly when opened in Notepad? I assume these subtitle files were originally created by someone who had Chinese as the default OS language on his computer; and when I open these files in Notepad on a Chinese firiend's computer who has Chinese as the default system language, the files correctly display in Chinese, so why not on my computer? Please note that I am not trying to 'fix' Notepad, I merely wish to understand why the file won't display properly, as I think this is the key to solving other related problems. Thanks I had the same problem and as you guys have already mentioned its due to the encoding and what not, a simple solution if you have word and can read it in the format you want to, open it in word and then save it as a text file with the proper encoding like UTF-8. I found that the chinese subtitles i downloaded tend to be in ANSI encoding and it gives you giberish with most video players, if you change it to the UTF-8 or other encoding that supports the language your using, you can then rename the txt file to an srt, or just leave it at txt if your video player supports that. *As a reply to your question it is because of the encoding, check it, i have a good feeling it is ANSI, if you recoded it to UTF-8, you should be able to view it as txt or srt in notepad |
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