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Problem with Table of Authorities
Hello,
It has been two days now, and unfortunately there is no reply to the question about a problem with the Table of Authorities in Word. This seems to suggest that either there is no solution to the problem, or that the author (me) did not phrase it correctly. I appreciate those who may have looked at it, and have thought about the question. I suggest that if (as I suspect) that the Table of Authorities system is unable to create a table without page numbers, that Microsoft might please consider making it possible to not-show page numbers. With page numbers as an option, the user could use the Table of Authorities functionality to meet the requirements of hundreds of scholarly journals that require American Psychological Association formatting. If I am am incorrect, and if the Table of Authorities can be presented without page numbers, then I welcome any suggestions on how to accomplish the task. thank you. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.word.tables |
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I think you didn't get an answer because most users are not familiar with
tables of authorities at all (I know I'm not). And the users who *are* familiar with tables of authorities would be more likely to hang out in word.formatting.longdocs rather than here (since a table of authorities is not the sort of table this NG is devoted to). The "Field codes: TOA (Table of Authorities) field" Help topic does not list a switch to suppress page numbers, so it's likely that this *isn't* possible. The only Web article I know of that addresses TOAs is http://www.ShaunaKelly.com/word/glossary/glossary.html. This article does offer a workaround for omitting page numbers in the section "Move the page numbers out of sight." -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "keith" wrote in message ... Hello, It has been two days now, and unfortunately there is no reply to the question about a problem with the Table of Authorities in Word. This seems to suggest that either there is no solution to the problem, or that the author (me) did not phrase it correctly. I appreciate those who may have looked at it, and have thought about the question. I suggest that if (as I suspect) that the Table of Authorities system is unable to create a table without page numbers, that Microsoft might please consider making it possible to not-show page numbers. With page numbers as an option, the user could use the Table of Authorities functionality to meet the requirements of hundreds of scholarly journals that require American Psychological Association formatting. If I am am incorrect, and if the Table of Authorities can be presented without page numbers, then I welcome any suggestions on how to accomplish the task. thank you. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.word.tables |
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Hello Suzanne,
Thank you very much for your reply. Your comments are very helpful. Indeed it may be tht the users of this forum are not so familiar with the topic, and thank you for the link. I have already checked it out, and find it helpful, although I do hope that the Microsoft people will consider an enhancement in this area. The work-around works, but isn't as programmatically appropriate as a program enhancement would be. One real strength of Microsoft products is that the programmers are so incredibly thorough. I'm a bit surprised this area has not yet been addressed. Thousands upon thousands of scholarly papers, high school and college papers, journals, book manuscripts, and others use the APA style system, so for me it seems only natural to build a table of authorities that will produce APA style references. I use it all the time, by embedding the table of authorities refefence into in-text references. For example, "(Smith, 2005)" would have a hidden TOA field after the "5" and before the ")". This way, every reference is appropriately accounted for, and is listed in the reference section. My only problem, of course, is that APA style requires, the non-use of page numbers. And of course, there are two other style designs that should also be considered by Microsoft: Chicago, and MLA. Those style designs also do not use page references. So, again, thank you very very much. Have a great day, Keith "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I think you didn't get an answer because most users are not familiar with tables of authorities at all (I know I'm not). And the users who *are* familiar with tables of authorities would be more likely to hang out in word.formatting.longdocs rather than here (since a table of authorities is not the sort of table this NG is devoted to). The "Field codes: TOA (Table of Authorities) field" Help topic does not list a switch to suppress page numbers, so it's likely that this *isn't* possible. The only Web article I know of that addresses TOAs is http://www.ShaunaKelly.com/word/glossary/glossary.html. This article does offer a workaround for omitting page numbers in the section "Move the page numbers out of sight." -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "keith" wrote in message ... Hello, It has been two days now, and unfortunately there is no reply to the question about a problem with the Table of Authorities in Word. This seems to suggest that either there is no solution to the problem, or that the author (me) did not phrase it correctly. I appreciate those who may have looked at it, and have thought about the question. I suggest that if (as I suspect) that the Table of Authorities system is unable to create a table without page numbers, that Microsoft might please consider making it possible to not-show page numbers. With page numbers as an option, the user could use the Table of Authorities functionality to meet the requirements of hundreds of scholarly journals that require American Psychological Association formatting. If I am am incorrect, and if the Table of Authorities can be presented without page numbers, then I welcome any suggestions on how to accomplish the task. thank you. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.word.tables |
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Writers of academic papers tend to use bibliographic software such as
EndNote to handle this type of chore. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "keith" wrote in message ... Hello Suzanne, Thank you very much for your reply. Your comments are very helpful. Indeed it may be tht the users of this forum are not so familiar with the topic, and thank you for the link. I have already checked it out, and find it helpful, although I do hope that the Microsoft people will consider an enhancement in this area. The work-around works, but isn't as programmatically appropriate as a program enhancement would be. One real strength of Microsoft products is that the programmers are so incredibly thorough. I'm a bit surprised this area has not yet been addressed. Thousands upon thousands of scholarly papers, high school and college papers, journals, book manuscripts, and others use the APA style system, so for me it seems only natural to build a table of authorities that will produce APA style references. I use it all the time, by embedding the table of authorities refefence into in-text references. For example, "(Smith, 2005)" would have a hidden TOA field after the "5" and before the ")". This way, every reference is appropriately accounted for, and is listed in the reference section. My only problem, of course, is that APA style requires, the non-use of page numbers. And of course, there are two other style designs that should also be considered by Microsoft: Chicago, and MLA. Those style designs also do not use page references. So, again, thank you very very much. Have a great day, Keith "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I think you didn't get an answer because most users are not familiar with tables of authorities at all (I know I'm not). And the users who *are* familiar with tables of authorities would be more likely to hang out in word.formatting.longdocs rather than here (since a table of authorities is not the sort of table this NG is devoted to). The "Field codes: TOA (Table of Authorities) field" Help topic does not list a switch to suppress page numbers, so it's likely that this *isn't* possible. The only Web article I know of that addresses TOAs is http://www.ShaunaKelly.com/word/glossary/glossary.html. This article does offer a workaround for omitting page numbers in the section "Move the page numbers out of sight." -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "keith" wrote in message ... Hello, It has been two days now, and unfortunately there is no reply to the question about a problem with the Table of Authorities in Word. This seems to suggest that either there is no solution to the problem, or that the author (me) did not phrase it correctly. I appreciate those who may have looked at it, and have thought about the question. I suggest that if (as I suspect) that the Table of Authorities system is unable to create a table without page numbers, that Microsoft might please consider making it possible to not-show page numbers. With page numbers as an option, the user could use the Table of Authorities functionality to meet the requirements of hundreds of scholarly journals that require American Psychological Association formatting. If I am am incorrect, and if the Table of Authorities can be presented without page numbers, then I welcome any suggestions on how to accomplish the task. thank you. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.word.tables |
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