[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

I'm glad you got it sorted.

Note that when a style A is based on another style B, a particular setting
from B is duplicated in A until you explicitly change it in A (or until you
set the base style to "(no style)" of course).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




Thanks Stefan for response. To answer your questions:
Ctrl+SpaceBar doesn't seem to do anything
The text appears grey on the screen; in print preview and prints grey
Once corrected to black; then it is black on the screen, in print preview
and prints black.

But I have just found a solution! ...
I went to "Modify style" where "Style based on" showed that the style was
based on a style with font colour grey.
So I changed "Style based on" to "(no style)". I then had to edit the
style to be what I wanted it to be.
Now when I close and reopen the document it is fine.
It's still strange that the problem existed but at I have a solution.

[[email protected]]

Thanks Stefan. You may be interested to know I did explicitly change the font colour setting for style A, but then the error would occur on reopening the document (so there is a "bug" somewhere)

[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

How annoying! :-(

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



Thanks Stefan. You may be interested to know I did explicitly change the
font colour setting for style A, but then the error would occur on
reopening the document (so there is a "bug" somewhere)

[Nidhitiwari]

Originally Posted by Stefan Blom[_3_]

How annoying! :-(

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



Thanks Stefan. You may be interested to know I did explicitly change the
font colour setting for style A, but then the error would occur on
reopening the document (so there is a "bug" somewhere)

Great post!

[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

By the way, have you looked at the "Automatically update document styles"
option mentioned by Lisa in her reply?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



Thanks Stefan. You may be interested to know I did explicitly change the
font colour setting for style A, but then the error would occur on
reopening the document (so there is a "bug" somewhere)

[[email protected]]

Hi Stefan, Yes I followed Lisa's recommendation (see my original post on Jan 3)

[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

Hi Stefan, Yes I followed Lisa's recommendation (see my original post on
Jan 3)


Sorry, re-reading your post I realize I overlooked that.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

[[email protected]]

From time to time I run into the same sort of problem.

I use document templates (even though they are inexplicably hidden in File / Options / Add-ins / change-the-dropdown-or-you'll-never-find-them ).

The specific template in use does have "automatically apply updates" checked.

I have a bulleted paragraph style, nb, with a left indent of 0.25 inch and a 0.25 inch hanging indent. When I close my document and reopen it, nb paragraphs show up with a 2.75 left indent, which makes them awfully hard to read in a table.

I go into the Style pane and modify nb, so that everything looks the way I want it to. When I save, close, and reopen, the 2.75 left indent reappears.

While writing this comment, I have gone through the entire cycle: reopened my document to find that Word has failed to preserve my changes; reimposed them by modifying the style from the style panel; saving the document; reopening it once again. Same failure.

I used to regard templates and styles as Word's chief virtues. They have become increasingly unreliable and endlessly frustrating. The document in question was part of work I submitted as part of a job application. If after nearly 30 years of working with Word (I started with the demo of Word 1.0 for DOS) I can't rely on it to do what I intend, I might as well use Google docs.

[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

Since this involves a bulleted paragraph style it might be a completely
different issue. For all numbered and bulleted paragraphs (or paragraph
styles), you MUST specify the indentation using the Adjust List Indents
command. To find the command (Word 2007 or later), first click to select the
actual list symbol (bullet or number); Word selects all symbols belonging to
the same list. Then right-click and select Adjust List Indents.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




wrote in message
...
From time to time I run into the same sort of problem.

I use document templates (even though they are inexplicably hidden in File
/ Options / Add-ins / change-the-dropdown-or-you'll-never-find-them ).

The specific template in use does have "automatically apply updates"
checked.

I have a bulleted paragraph style, nb, with a left indent of 0.25 inch and
a 0.25 inch hanging indent. When I close my document and reopen it, nb
paragraphs show up with a 2.75 left indent, which makes them awfully hard
to read in a table.

I go into the Style pane and modify nb, so that everything looks the way I
want it to. When I save, close, and reopen, the 2.75 left indent
reappears.

While writing this comment, I have gone through the entire cycle: reopened
my document to find that Word has failed to preserve my changes; reimposed
them by modifying the style from the style panel; saving the document;
reopening it once again. Same failure.

I used to regard templates and styles as Word's chief virtues. They have
become increasingly unreliable and endlessly frustrating. The document in
question was part of work I submitted as part of a job application. If
after nearly 30 years of working with Word (I started with the demo of
Word 1.0 for DOS) I can't rely on it to do what I intend, I might as well
use Google docs.

[Lisa Wilke-Thissen]

Hi,

You may be interested to know I did explicitly change the font colour
setting for style A,
but then the error would occur on reopening the document (so there is a
"bug" somewhere)

you did not change the Design, you did not change the Styles Set? Did you
modify a character style, a paragraph style, or a linked style? You just
modified this one style, you did not modify the basis style?

Click into the formatted text and press SHIFT + F1. In the "Reveal
Formatting" pane enable "Distinguish style source". Then, which information
does the pane show for your text?

When opening the document by "Open and Repair": Does any error message
occur?

Your also can send me the document for analysing.

--
Cheers,
Lisa

[[email protected]]

I have found a partial remedy to the lost styles problem, which is: I have defined my styles as a "quick style set". Each time I re-open the document, the styles are reverted to some default, but by applying my quick style set I can regain my styles. Still, it is annoying that I have to do it each and every time I open the document. Isn't there any possibility to cause the style definitions to stay? (Preferably one that does not involve templates...)

Den onsdag den 12. februar 2014 14.51.28 UTC+2 skrev Lisa Wilke-Thissen:
Hi,



You may be interested to know I did explicitly change the font colour

setting for style A,

but then the error would occur on reopening the document (so there is a

"bug" somewhere)



you did not change the Design, you did not change the Styles Set? Did you

modify a character style, a paragraph style, or a linked style? You just

modified this one style, you did not modify the basis style?



Click into the formatted text and press SHIFT + F1. In the "Reveal

Formatting" pane enable "Distinguish style source". Then, which information

does the pane show for your text?



When opening the document by "Open and Repair": Does any error message

occur?



Your also can send me the document for analysing.



--

Cheers,

Lisa

[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

If styles change when you (re-)open a document, you need to do the
following: In the Templates and Add-Ins dialog box, clear the option to
"Automatically update document styles."

To display the dialog box: First display the Developer tab on the ribbon by
selecting it at File tab | Options | Customize Ribbon. Then, on the
Developer tab, click Document Template. (These instructions apply to Word
2010 and 2013.)

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




wrote in message
...
I have found a partial remedy to the lost styles problem, which is: I have
defined my styles as a "quick style set". Each time I re-open the
document, the styles are reverted to some default, but by applying my
quick style set I can regain my styles. Still, it is annoying that I have
to do it each and every time I open the document. Isn't there any
possibility to cause the style definitions to stay? (Preferably one that
does not involve templates...)

Den onsdag den 12. februar 2014 14.51.28 UTC+2 skrev Lisa Wilke-Thissen:
Hi,



You may be interested to know I did explicitly change the font colour

setting for style A,

but then the error would occur on reopening the document (so there is a

"bug" somewhere)



you did not change the Design, you did not change the Styles Set? Did you

modify a character style, a paragraph style, or a linked style? You just

modified this one style, you did not modify the basis style?



Click into the formatted text and press SHIFT + F1. In the "Reveal

Formatting" pane enable "Distinguish style source". Then, which
information

does the pane show for your text?



When opening the document by "Open and Repair": Does any error message

occur?



Your also can send me the document for analysing.



--

Cheers,

Lisa

[[email protected]]

On Saturday, February 15, 2014 1:47:58 PM UTC-5, Stefan Blom wrote:
If styles change when you (re-)open a document, you need to do the following: In the Templates and Add-Ins dialog box, clear the option to "Automatically update document styles." To display the dialog box: First display the Developer tab on the ribbon by selecting it at File tab | Options | Customize Ribbon. Then, on the Developer tab, click Document Template. (These instructions apply to Word 2010 and 2013.) -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP wrote in message ... I have found a partial remedy to the lost styles problem, which is: I have defined my styles as a "quick style set". Each time I re-open the document, the styles are reverted to some default, but by applying my quick style set I can regain my styles. Still, it is annoying that I have to do it each and every time I open the document. Isn't there any possibility to cause the style definitions to stay? (Preferably one that does not involve templates...) Den onsdag den 12. februar 2014 14.51.28 UTC+2 skrev Lisa Wilke-Thissen: Hi, You may be interested to know I did explicitly change the font colour setting for style A, but then the error would occur on reopening the document (so there is a "bug" somewhere) you did not change the Design, you did not change the Styles Set? Did you modify a character style, a paragraph style, or a linked style? You just modified this one style, you did not modify the basis style? Click into the formatted text and press SHIFT + F1. In the "Reveal Formatting" pane enable "Distinguish style source". Then, which information does the pane show for your text? When opening the document by "Open and Repair": Does any error message occur? Your also can send me the document for analysing. -- Cheers, Lisa

I've implemented all of the suggestions mentioned in this thread. I've been able to correct the 0.25 Left Indent added to some table cells when re-opening the document. But I'm unable to resolve the 0.25 Hanging Indent added to some table cells. I can't simply reapply the style because the table cell content has additional formatting that is unique to the cell. Reapplying the style causes everything within the cell to assume the style definition properties.

[[email protected]]

I've implemented all of the suggestions mentioned in this thread. I've been able to correct the 0.25 Left Indent added to some table cells when re-opening the document. But I'm unable to resolve the 0.25 Hanging Indent added to some table cells. I can't simply reapply the style because the table cell content has additional formatting that is unique to the cell. Reapplying the style causes everything within the cell to assume the style definition properties.

[[email protected]]

Have just tried it and it works. (It is possible to reach the necessary option
without messing with the ribbon, via File options add-ins manage templates).
Thank you!

Den lørdag den 15. februar 2014 20.47.58 UTC+2 skrev Stefan Blom:
If styles change when you (re-)open a document, you need to do the

following: In the Templates and Add-Ins dialog box, clear the option to

"Automatically update document styles."



To display the dialog box: First display the Developer tab on the ribbon by

selecting it at File tab | Options | Customize Ribbon. Then, on the

Developer tab, click Document Template. (These instructions apply to Word

2010 and 2013.)



--

Stefan Blom

Microsoft Word MVP










I have found a partial remedy to the lost styles problem, which is: I have

defined my styles as a "quick style set". Each time I re-open the

document, the styles are reverted to some default, but by applying my

quick style set I can regain my styles. Still, it is annoying that I have

to do it each and every time I open the document. Isn't there any

possibility to cause the style definitions to stay? (Preferably one that

does not involve templates...)



Den onsdag den 12. februar 2014 14.51.28 UTC+2 skrev Lisa Wilke-Thissen:

Hi,







You may be interested to know I did explicitly change the font colour



setting for style A,



but then the error would occur on reopening the document (so there is a



"bug" somewhere)







you did not change the Design, you did not change the Styles Set? Did you



modify a character style, a paragraph style, or a linked style? You just



modified this one style, you did not modify the basis style?







Click into the formatted text and press SHIFT + F1. In the "Reveal



Formatting" pane enable "Distinguish style source". Then, which

information



does the pane show for your text?







When opening the document by "Open and Repair": Does any error message



occur?







Your also can send me the document for analysing.







--



Cheers,



Lisa

[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

For an even more convenient way you can add the Document Template button to
the Quick Access Toolbar.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




wrote in message
...
Have just tried it and it works. (It is possible to reach the necessary
option
without messing with the ribbon, via File options add-ins manage
templates).
Thank you!

Den lørdag den 15. februar 2014 20.47.58 UTC+2 skrev Stefan Blom:
If styles change when you (re-)open a document, you need to do the

following: In the Templates and Add-Ins dialog box, clear the option to

"Automatically update document styles."



To display the dialog box: First display the Developer tab on the ribbon
by

selecting it at File tab | Options | Customize Ribbon. Then, on the

Developer tab, click Document Template. (These instructions apply to Word

2010 and 2013.)



--

Stefan Blom

Microsoft Word MVP










I have found a partial remedy to the lost styles problem, which is: I
have

defined my styles as a "quick style set". Each time I re-open the

document, the styles are reverted to some default, but by applying my

quick style set I can regain my styles. Still, it is annoying that I
have

to do it each and every time I open the document. Isn't there any

possibility to cause the style definitions to stay? (Preferably one
that

does not involve templates...)



Den onsdag den 12. februar 2014 14.51.28 UTC+2 skrev Lisa
Wilke-Thissen:

Hi,







You may be interested to know I did explicitly change the font
colour



setting for style A,



but then the error would occur on reopening the document (so there
is a



"bug" somewhere)







you did not change the Design, you did not change the Styles Set? Did
you



modify a character style, a paragraph style, or a linked style? You
just



modified this one style, you did not modify the basis style?







Click into the formatted text and press SHIFT + F1. In the "Reveal



Formatting" pane enable "Distinguish style source". Then, which

information



does the pane show for your text?







When opening the document by "Open and Repair": Does any error message



occur?







Your also can send me the document for analysing.







--



Cheers,



Lisa

[[email protected]]

This worked! Thanks Stefan!

On Saturday, February 15, 2014 at 1:47:58 PM UTC-5, Stefan Blom wrote:
If styles change when you (re-)open a document, you need to do the
following: In the Templates and Add-Ins dialog box, clear the option to
"Automatically update document styles."

To display the dialog box: First display the Developer tab on the ribbon by
selecting it at File tab | Options | Customize Ribbon. Then, on the
Developer tab, click Document Template. (These instructions apply to Word
2010 and 2013.)

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

I'm glad I could help!

Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




On 2015-12-29 16:31, wrote:
This worked! Thanks Stefan!

On Saturday, February 15, 2014 at 1:47:58 PM UTC-5, Stefan Blom wrote:
If styles change when you (re-)open a document, you need to do the
following: In the Templates and Add-Ins dialog box, clear the option to
"Automatically update document styles."

To display the dialog box: First display the Developer tab on the ribbon by
selecting it at File tab | Options | Customize Ribbon. Then, on the
Developer tab, click Document Template. (These instructions apply to Word
2010 and 2013.)

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP