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I am having difficulty with deleting headers and footers
I routinely used WordPerfect before I retired, and have not had occasion to
write long documents since then. We have a relatively new Dell Dimension that came with Microsoft Word. I was asked to write about a 50 page document, which I started in Word Perfect, before I found that it was never saved in the correct format, due to some inexplicable interference with Word. So I copied to Word, to complete the document. However, in restoring a deleted passage, Word duplicated about 5 times inserting it randomly in the body of my document and surrounded it with Header-Footer commands. How do I get rid of this? I have read the manual and Word for Dummies.and cannot find any explanation? Makes me almost wish I weren't retired so I could call tech support and not have to deal with it.. |
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I am having difficulty with deleting headers and footers
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... I routinely used WordPerfect before I retired, and have not had occasion to write long documents since then. We have a relatively new Dell Dimension that came with Microsoft Word. I was asked to write about a 50 page document, which I started in Word Perfect, before I found that it was never saved in the correct format, due to some inexplicable interference with Word. So I copied to Word, to complete the document. However, in restoring a deleted passage, Word duplicated about 5 times inserting it randomly in the body of my document and surrounded it with Header-Footer commands. How do I get rid of this? I have read the manual and Word for Dummies.and cannot find any explanation? Makes me almost wish I weren't retired so I could call tech support and not have to deal with it.. I see no takers so far so as a newbie I'll try to help. There may be a better and less time consuming method which the others will come up with but meanwhile if I had this problem, I would load in the document, save it as a text file. Close down. Start up again, load the text file, select all, adjust font, size, margins paragraphs, save as a word file (doc). Wait and see what other brighter people say first; else this may do. |
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I am having difficulty with deleting headers and footers
Oh, and also.. Make the transition to Word. I did (from WordPerfect in DOS)
and am glad I did. I've kept all my old (WP) documents in a separate folder and when any of them is required I can then convert to Word automatically using an addin that requires the original Word CDs. "LHD" wrote in message ... I routinely used WordPerfect before I retired, and have not had occasion to write long documents since then. We have a relatively new Dell Dimension that came with Microsoft Word. I was asked to write about a 50 page document, which I started in Word Perfect, before I found that it was never saved in the correct format, due to some inexplicable interference with Word. So I copied to Word, to complete the document. However, in restoring a deleted passage, Word duplicated about 5 times inserting it randomly in the body of my document and surrounded it with Header-Footer commands. How do I get rid of this? I have read the manual and Word for Dummies.and cannot find any explanation? Makes me almost wish I weren't retired so I could call tech support and not have to deal with it.. |
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I am having difficulty with deleting headers and footers
I'm puzzled by what you mean by "surrounded it with Header-Footer commands."
There are no such "commands" or codes in Word. Perhaps you managed to paste the text into a header or footer in Word? If so, it would be repeated on every page. In general, if you open a WordPerfect document in Word (a better approach than pasting from WP into Word), you will find many added section breaks (sometimes as many as one per page), which will result in multiple headers and footers (if they are unlinked). You can remove the section breaks manually or by using Find and Replace to search for ^b and replace with nothing. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "LHD" wrote in message ... I routinely used WordPerfect before I retired, and have not had occasion to write long documents since then. We have a relatively new Dell Dimension that came with Microsoft Word. I was asked to write about a 50 page document, which I started in Word Perfect, before I found that it was never saved in the correct format, due to some inexplicable interference with Word. So I copied to Word, to complete the document. However, in restoring a deleted passage, Word duplicated about 5 times inserting it randomly in the body of my document and surrounded it with Header-Footer commands. How do I get rid of this? I have read the manual and Word for Dummies.and cannot find any explanation? Makes me almost wish I weren't retired so I could call tech support and not have to deal with it.. |
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I am having difficulty with deleting headers and footers
Like Suzanne, I am puzzled by your reference to header-footer commands. I
don't know of such c ommands. In WP headers and footers are separate entries that do have such commands. In Word, they are part of the section formatting. Here is some general info on moving from Word Perfect to Word. It may not help with your immediate problem but should make your life easier in the future. Word and Word Perfect work very differently from one another. Each program's methods have strengths and weaknesses; but, if you try to use one of these programs as if it were the other, it is like pushing on a string! You can easily make a lot of extra work for yourself. In the (short) long term (weeks rather than years) spending the time to learn Word will save you time if you are spending any time at all (more than an hour a day) using Word. See http://www.addbalance.com/word/wordperfect.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...ordPerfect.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...AndGotchas.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/RevealCodes.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...Converters.htm http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/conc...ion/index.html for information on Word for Word Perfect users. For mo http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...platePart2.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...platePart1.htm http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/bull...olbullets.html http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Number...gExplained.htm http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...latesStore.htm Function Keys In Word 2000 (or later) You can get the function keys to display in a special toolbar at the bottom of the screen if you want (something like pressing F3 twice in WP). The following macro will do this. Sub ShowMeFunctionKeys() Commandbars("Function Key Display").Visible = True End Sub Word's Extend key (F8) gives something similar to block processing. Formatting and Styles Learn about Styles - really learn! http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm I resisted for years and now regret every day of those years because although that string was still very hard to push, it kept getting longer and longer, and had some very important projects tied to it! Once you understand styles and the Word concept of organizing things into Chinese boxes everything falls into place and instead of pushing a string, you can push a button that turns on the very powerful text processing machine known as Microsoft Word and it will start doing your work for you instead of running around behind you trying to undo what you just thought you did. Converting documents Word / Word Perfect Some special characters in Word Perfect documents don't convert well to Word. There is a macro to assist with this described at http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/...html#macroword and can be found at http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/WPSymbolConv.bas. This was prepared by Edward Mendelson. Otherwise, look at the macro from http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=212396 Use these on _copies_! As for converting documents from Word Perfect to _use_ in Word... In a word, don't plan on it. I would not recommend using converted documents long-term. They will be filled with formatting anomolies that will get you at the worst time. This is especially true of any documents containing automatic numbering or bullets. Try recreating form documents in Word using the following process: In Word Perfect (if you still have it, in Word if not) save your files as text files. Use your converted files as references to show you how you want your formatting to look. Create a new document in Word and insert the text from the text file. Save this new document as a Word template. Format it the way you want using styles, not direct formatting. Save it again. To use a template within Word, use File = New and pick your template. This will create a new document for you. Merge documents have special problems and should be recreated from text files or retyped in Word. To convert data files, consider generating labels in WP as a document, converting that to Word, and then using http://www.gmayor.com/convert_labels...mail_merge.htm to get a new Word data file. Note that conversions usually do create documents that look passable and print OK; the problems I'm referring to have to do with editing / making changes, that is, using the documents long-term. (See below on reusing documents vs. using templates.) Conversion back to Word Perfect: There is a problem (in addition to the ones mentioned for conversion _to_ Word) with Version 2002 (XP) and later of Word. The conversion file only works for conversion _to_ Word, not from Word to Word Perfect! Earlier versions went both ways. To fix this, you need to find the old conversion file WPFT532.CNV from a Word 97 or Word 2000 installation and copy it to your new installation, replacing the file of the same name. Note, the change making the file one-way was done as a security measure. While I don't know of any problems the old file causes, keep the new installation's file somewhere as a backup just in case. Menus and AutoFormat as you type Turn off the adaptive menus (display full menus all the time). This is under Tools Customize Options. Also, I recommend that under Tools AutoCorrect Options AutoFormat as you type that all options under "Apply as you type" and "Automatically as you type" be turned off. Boilerplate and Forms In WP a lot of people use macros to hold chunks of text - boilerplate. In Word this function is filled by Templates, AutoText and AutoCorrect, not macros. Follow the links at http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebre...s.htm#AutoText for more information on these tools. You can use FILLIN and ASK fields or UserForms to query the user. For more about online forms, follow the links at http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebresources.htm#Forms or http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...nTheBlanks.htm especially Dian Chapman's series of articles. You may also want to look at http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/TblsFl...nesInForms.htm. Letterhead How to set up letterhead or some other document where you want one header (or no header) on the first page and a different header on other pages. http://www.addbalance.com/word/headersfooters.htm This gives step-by-step instructions. (This page also has the following links) Some other pages to look at: Letterhead Tips and Instructions http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm Letterhead Textboxes and Styles tutorial http://addbalance.com/word/download....StylesTutorial (for simulating different margins on different pages, among other things) Reusing Documents vs. Using templates General practice in WP is to have a document and copy and edit it to create a new document. This is not good practice in Word. In Word, construct a good, tight, template for your documents and use that template when constructing new documents. Among other things, this can avoid embarrassing "metadata" (http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/metadata.htm) and things like surprise headers and footers from creeping into new documents. Sharing normal.dot - centralizing normal.dot It is tempting to try to share customizations and regularize processes by sharing normal.dot. Do not do this! See http://addbalance.com/word/movetotemplate.htm and http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm for ideas on sharing customizations. It's a lot of reading, I know. It's OK to chunk it down and do a bit each day, but I would recommend that you make it a top priority to do that bit each day. In the (short) long run, it will save you both time and grief. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs which is awesome! My criminal law site: http://addbalance.com --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "LHD" wrote in message ... I routinely used WordPerfect before I retired, and have not had occasion to write long documents since then. We have a relatively new Dell Dimension that came with Microsoft Word. I was asked to write about a 50 page document, which I started in Word Perfect, before I found that it was never saved in the correct format, due to some inexplicable interference with Word. So I copied to Word, to complete the document. However, in restoring a deleted passage, Word duplicated about 5 times inserting it randomly in the body of my document and surrounded it with Header-Footer commands. How do I get rid of this? I have read the manual and Word for Dummies.and cannot find any explanation? Makes me almost wish I weren't retired so I could call tech support and not have to deal with it.. |
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I am having difficulty with deleting headers and footers
Agree absolutely. Much as I loved WordPerfect and liked to oppose the
all-embracing Micro$oft, I have to admit that the best way forward for me was to quickly forget WP and learn to use Word (naturally, and no doubt obvious by my posts, I am still learning). I then took all my old WP documents and put them in a separate subdirectory in my documents. If I ever need one, I simply load it in and convert it to a Word document (the first time I did this I was asked to insert my Word CD to load in the add-in). Now all is sweet. IMO Word is a hugely complex and on the whole excellent program, and learning from the MVPs here and their various papers is all a help. "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message ... Like Suzanne, I am puzzled by your reference to header-footer commands. I don't know of such c ommands. In WP headers and footers are separate entries that do have such commands. In Word, they are part of the section formatting. Here is some general info on moving from Word Perfect to Word. It may not help with your immediate problem but should make your life easier in the future. Word and Word Perfect work very differently from one another. Each program's methods have strengths and weaknesses; but, if you try to use one of these programs as if it were the other, it is like pushing on a string! You can easily make a lot of extra work for yourself. In the (short) long term (weeks rather than years) spending the time to learn Word will save you time if you are spending any time at all (more than an hour a day) using Word. See http://www.addbalance.com/word/wordperfect.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...ordPerfect.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...AndGotchas.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/RevealCodes.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...Converters.htm http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/conc...ion/index.html for information on Word for Word Perfect users. For mo http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...platePart2.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...platePart1.htm http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/bull...olbullets.html http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Number...gExplained.htm http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...latesStore.htm Function Keys In Word 2000 (or later) You can get the function keys to display in a special toolbar at the bottom of the screen if you want (something like pressing F3 twice in WP). The following macro will do this. Sub ShowMeFunctionKeys() Commandbars("Function Key Display").Visible = True End Sub Word's Extend key (F8) gives something similar to block processing. Formatting and Styles Learn about Styles - really learn! http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm I resisted for years and now regret every day of those years because although that string was still very hard to push, it kept getting longer and longer, and had some very important projects tied to it! Once you understand styles and the Word concept of organizing things into Chinese boxes everything falls into place and instead of pushing a string, you can push a button that turns on the very powerful text processing machine known as Microsoft Word and it will start doing your work for you instead of running around behind you trying to undo what you just thought you did. Converting documents Word / Word Perfect Some special characters in Word Perfect documents don't convert well to Word. There is a macro to assist with this described at http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/...html#macroword and can be found at http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/WPSymbolConv.bas. This was prepared by Edward Mendelson. Otherwise, look at the macro from http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=212396 Use these on _copies_! As for converting documents from Word Perfect to _use_ in Word... In a word, don't plan on it. I would not recommend using converted documents long-term. They will be filled with formatting anomolies that will get you at the worst time. This is especially true of any documents containing automatic numbering or bullets. Try recreating form documents in Word using the following process: In Word Perfect (if you still have it, in Word if not) save your files as text files. Use your converted files as references to show you how you want your formatting to look. Create a new document in Word and insert the text from the text file. Save this new document as a Word template. Format it the way you want using styles, not direct formatting. Save it again. To use a template within Word, use File = New and pick your template. This will create a new document for you. Merge documents have special problems and should be recreated from text files or retyped in Word. To convert data files, consider generating labels in WP as a document, converting that to Word, and then using http://www.gmayor.com/convert_labels...mail_merge.htm to get a new Word data file. Note that conversions usually do create documents that look passable and print OK; the problems I'm referring to have to do with editing / making changes, that is, using the documents long-term. (See below on reusing documents vs. using templates.) Conversion back to Word Perfect: There is a problem (in addition to the ones mentioned for conversion _to_ Word) with Version 2002 (XP) and later of Word. The conversion file only works for conversion _to_ Word, not from Word to Word Perfect! Earlier versions went both ways. To fix this, you need to find the old conversion file WPFT532.CNV from a Word 97 or Word 2000 installation and copy it to your new installation, replacing the file of the same name. Note, the change making the file one-way was done as a security measure. While I don't know of any problems the old file causes, keep the new installation's file somewhere as a backup just in case. Menus and AutoFormat as you type Turn off the adaptive menus (display full menus all the time). This is under Tools Customize Options. Also, I recommend that under Tools AutoCorrect Options AutoFormat as you type that all options under "Apply as you type" and "Automatically as you type" be turned off. Boilerplate and Forms In WP a lot of people use macros to hold chunks of text - boilerplate. In Word this function is filled by Templates, AutoText and AutoCorrect, not macros. Follow the links at http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebre...s.htm#AutoText for more information on these tools. You can use FILLIN and ASK fields or UserForms to query the user. For more about online forms, follow the links at http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebresources.htm#Forms or http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...nTheBlanks.htm especially Dian Chapman's series of articles. You may also want to look at http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/TblsFl...nesInForms.htm. Letterhead How to set up letterhead or some other document where you want one header (or no header) on the first page and a different header on other pages. http://www.addbalance.com/word/headersfooters.htm This gives step-by-step instructions. (This page also has the following links) Some other pages to look at: Letterhead Tips and Instructions http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm Letterhead Textboxes and Styles tutorial http://addbalance.com/word/download....StylesTutorial (for simulating different margins on different pages, among other things) Reusing Documents vs. Using templates General practice in WP is to have a document and copy and edit it to create a new document. This is not good practice in Word. In Word, construct a good, tight, template for your documents and use that template when constructing new documents. Among other things, this can avoid embarrassing "metadata" (http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/metadata.htm) and things like surprise headers and footers from creeping into new documents. Sharing normal.dot - centralizing normal.dot It is tempting to try to share customizations and regularize processes by sharing normal.dot. Do not do this! See http://addbalance.com/word/movetotemplate.htm and http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm for ideas on sharing customizations. It's a lot of reading, I know. It's OK to chunk it down and do a bit each day, but I would recommend that you make it a top priority to do that bit each day. In the (short) long run, it will save you both time and grief. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs which is awesome! My criminal law site: http://addbalance.com --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "LHD" wrote in message ... I routinely used WordPerfect before I retired, and have not had occasion to write long documents since then. We have a relatively new Dell Dimension that came with Microsoft Word. I was asked to write about a 50 page document, which I started in Word Perfect, before I found that it was never saved in the correct format, due to some inexplicable interference with Word. So I copied to Word, to complete the document. However, in restoring a deleted passage, Word duplicated about 5 times inserting it randomly in the body of my document and surrounded it with Header-Footer commands. How do I get rid of this? I have read the manual and Word for Dummies.and cannot find any explanation? Makes me almost wish I weren't retired so I could call tech support and not have to deal with it.. |
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