If an image is aligned to the right of a page (Word 2002), is there a way to
center a caption under it (relative to the image)? The automatic caption
created by Word for the right aligned image is by default aligned right
which looks particularly bad if the caption consists of 2 lines of text.

Formatting it to "center" align is no good because the center alignment is
relative to the page, not the image.

Is there a way to achieve this?

Thanks.

--

Jeff Stevens
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam

Try putting both image and caption (both inline) together in a frame sized
to the width of the image. Then format the frame to be at the right margin.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
If an image is aligned to the right of a page (Word 2002), is there a way
to
center a caption under it (relative to the image)? The automatic caption
created by Word for the right aligned image is by default aligned right
which looks particularly bad if the caption consists of 2 lines of text.

Formatting it to "center" align is no good because the center alignment is
relative to the page, not the image.

Is there a way to achieve this?

Thanks.

--

Jeff Stevens
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam

Aha! Eminently logical. I'll try it.

How do you create a frame? By frame, do you mean a text box? This is not a
web document.

--

Jeff Stevens
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam




Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Try putting both image and caption (both inline) together in a frame
sized to the width of the image. Then format the frame to be at the
right margin.


"Jeff" wrote in message
...
If an image is aligned to the right of a page (Word 2002), is there
a way to center a caption under it (relative to the image)? The
automatic caption created by Word for the right aligned image is by
default aligned right which looks particularly bad if the caption
consists of 2 lines of text.

Formatting it to "center" align is no good because the center
alignment is relative to the page, not the image.

Is there a way to achieve this?

Thanks.

--

Jeff Stevens
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam

Aha! I have snared you. A frame is a "classic" Word feature that Microsoft
began to hide when the text box was introduced. But it turns out that there
are many situations where a text box is not suitable, and this is one of
them because Word can't "see" text in a text box for purposes of TOCs,
cross-references, etc.

To get started with frames, display the Forms toolbar. Select both your
graphic and your caption and click on the Insert Frame button. This will put
both of them in a frame. The frame will probably have a border, which you
can remove using the No Border button on the Borders palette (flyout from
the Formatting or Tables and Borders toolbar) or by selecting None in Format
| Borders and Shading.

Frame positioning is limited compared to text box layout but perfectly
adequate for most purposes. You can choose to have it wrapped or not, and
you can position it relative to the text to which it is anchored or to the
page, margin, or column. (You can't format it as Behind Text or In Front of
Text, but you would rarely want to do that for a graphic and caption,
anyway.) You can drag it with the mouse for rough positioning and then use
Format Frame to fine-tune the position, experimenting to see the results of
the various settings. Note that you can also allow the size of the frame to
adjust automatically to its contents or be fixed at a certain dimension
horizontally or vertically.

If you decide you will use frames often, use Tools | Customize to put Frame
back on the Insert menu where it belongs. It was removed in Word 97 and in
that version actually hidden in the Customize dialog under the pseudonym
"Horizontal," but in later versions it appears in the Insert category as
"Frame."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Jeff" wrote in message
o.verio.net...
Aha! Eminently logical. I'll try it.

How do you create a frame? By frame, do you mean a text box? This is not a
web document.

--

Jeff Stevens
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam




Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Try putting both image and caption (both inline) together in a frame
sized to the width of the image. Then format the frame to be at the
right margin.


"Jeff" wrote in message
...
If an image is aligned to the right of a page (Word 2002), is there
a way to center a caption under it (relative to the image)? The
automatic caption created by Word for the right aligned image is by
default aligned right which looks particularly bad if the caption
consists of 2 lines of text.

Formatting it to "center" align is no good because the center
alignment is relative to the page, not the image.

Is there a way to achieve this?

Thanks.

--

Jeff Stevens
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam

Actually, it is now 'Horizontal Frame' in W2003: but it doesn't mean there
is a Vertical Frame!

Terry

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
: Aha! I have snared you. A frame is a "classic" Word feature that Microsoft
: began to hide when the text box was introduced. But it turns out that
there
: are many situations where a text box is not suitable, and this is one of
: them because Word can't "see" text in a text box for purposes of TOCs,
: cross-references, etc.
:
: To get started with frames, display the Forms toolbar. Select both your
: graphic and your caption and click on the Insert Frame button. This will
put
: both of them in a frame. The frame will probably have a border, which you
: can remove using the No Border button on the Borders palette (flyout from
: the Formatting or Tables and Borders toolbar) or by selecting None in
Format
: | Borders and Shading.
:
: Frame positioning is limited compared to text box layout but perfectly
: adequate for most purposes. You can choose to have it wrapped or not, and
: you can position it relative to the text to which it is anchored or to the
: page, margin, or column. (You can't format it as Behind Text or In Front
of
: Text, but you would rarely want to do that for a graphic and caption,
: anyway.) You can drag it with the mouse for rough positioning and then use
: Format Frame to fine-tune the position, experimenting to see the results
of
: the various settings. Note that you can also allow the size of the frame
to
: adjust automatically to its contents or be fixed at a certain dimension
: horizontally or vertically.
:
: If you decide you will use frames often, use Tools | Customize to put
Frame
: back on the Insert menu where it belongs. It was removed in Word 97 and in
: that version actually hidden in the Customize dialog under the pseudonym
: "Horizontal," but in later versions it appears in the Insert category as
: "Frame."
:
: --
: Suzanne S. Barnhill
: Microsoft MVP (Word)
: Words into Type
: Fairhope, Alabama USA
: Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
: Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
: all may benefit.
:
: "Jeff" wrote in message
: o.verio.net...
: Aha! Eminently logical. I'll try it.
:
: How do you create a frame? By frame, do you mean a text box? This is not
a
: web document.
:
: --
:
: Jeff Stevens
: Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
:
:
:
:
: Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
: Try putting both image and caption (both inline) together in a frame
: sized to the width of the image. Then format the frame to be at the
: right margin.
:
:
: "Jeff" wrote in message
: ...
: If an image is aligned to the right of a page (Word 2002), is there
: a way to center a caption under it (relative to the image)? The
: automatic caption created by Word for the right aligned image is by
: default aligned right which looks particularly bad if the caption
: consists of 2 lines of text.
:
: Formatting it to "center" align is no good because the center
: alignment is relative to the page, not the image.
:
: Is there a way to achieve this?
:
: Thanks.
:
: --
:
: Jeff Stevens
: Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
:
:
:
:
:

It's a pleasure to be snared, Suzanne.

Your frames did the trick for me. Worked like a charm. It's definitely
going back on my Insert menu.What a trick!

Thanks for helping Suzanne. One last question: Are frames a stable structure
in a long Word document? This is a 3-400 page book. Will this make the
document more prone to later corruption as I work with it?

--

Jeff Stevens
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Aha! I have snared you. A frame is a "classic" Word feature that Microsoft
began to hide when the text box was introduced. But it turns out that
there
are many situations where a text box is not suitable, and this is one of
them because Word can't "see" text in a text box for purposes of TOCs,
cross-references, etc.

To get started with frames, display the Forms toolbar. Select both your
graphic and your caption and click on the Insert Frame button. This will
put
both of them in a frame. The frame will probably have a border, which you
can remove using the No Border button on the Borders palette (flyout from
the Formatting or Tables and Borders toolbar) or by selecting None in
Format
| Borders and Shading.

Frame positioning is limited compared to text box layout but perfectly
adequate for most purposes. You can choose to have it wrapped or not, and
you can position it relative to the text to which it is anchored or to the
page, margin, or column. (You can't format it as Behind Text or In Front
of
Text, but you would rarely want to do that for a graphic and caption,
anyway.) You can drag it with the mouse for rough positioning and then use
Format Frame to fine-tune the position, experimenting to see the results
of
the various settings. Note that you can also allow the size of the frame
to
adjust automatically to its contents or be fixed at a certain dimension
horizontally or vertically.

If you decide you will use frames often, use Tools | Customize to put
Frame
back on the Insert menu where it belongs. It was removed in Word 97 and in
that version actually hidden in the Customize dialog under the pseudonym
"Horizontal," but in later versions it appears in the Insert category as
"Frame."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jeff" wrote in message
o.verio.net...
Aha! Eminently logical. I'll try it.

How do you create a frame? By frame, do you mean a text box? This is not
a
web document.

--

Jeff Stevens
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam




Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Try putting both image and caption (both inline) together in a frame
sized to the width of the image. Then format the frame to be at the
right margin.


"Jeff" wrote in message
...
If an image is aligned to the right of a page (Word 2002), is there
a way to center a caption under it (relative to the image)? The
automatic caption created by Word for the right aligned image is by
default aligned right which looks particularly bad if the caption
consists of 2 lines of text.

Formatting it to "center" align is no good because the center
alignment is relative to the page, not the image.

Is there a way to achieve this?

Thanks.

--

Jeff Stevens
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam

Oh, for crying out loud! I hadn't noticed that! Sheesh!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"TF" terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom wrote in message
...
Actually, it is now 'Horizontal Frame' in W2003: but it doesn't mean there
is a Vertical Frame!

Terry

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
: Aha! I have snared you. A frame is a "classic" Word feature that
Microsoft
: began to hide when the text box was introduced. But it turns out that
there
: are many situations where a text box is not suitable, and this is one of
: them because Word can't "see" text in a text box for purposes of TOCs,
: cross-references, etc.
:
: To get started with frames, display the Forms toolbar. Select both your
: graphic and your caption and click on the Insert Frame button. This will
put
: both of them in a frame. The frame will probably have a border, which
you
: can remove using the No Border button on the Borders palette (flyout
from
: the Formatting or Tables and Borders toolbar) or by selecting None in
Format
: | Borders and Shading.
:
: Frame positioning is limited compared to text box layout but perfectly
: adequate for most purposes. You can choose to have it wrapped or not,
and
: you can position it relative to the text to which it is anchored or to
the
: page, margin, or column. (You can't format it as Behind Text or In Front
of
: Text, but you would rarely want to do that for a graphic and caption,
: anyway.) You can drag it with the mouse for rough positioning and then
use
: Format Frame to fine-tune the position, experimenting to see the results
of
: the various settings. Note that you can also allow the size of the frame

to
: adjust automatically to its contents or be fixed at a certain dimension
: horizontally or vertically.
:
: If you decide you will use frames often, use Tools | Customize to put
Frame
: back on the Insert menu where it belongs. It was removed in Word 97 and
in
: that version actually hidden in the Customize dialog under the pseudonym
: "Horizontal," but in later versions it appears in the Insert category as
: "Frame."
:
: --
: Suzanne S. Barnhill
: Microsoft MVP (Word)
: Words into Type
: Fairhope, Alabama USA
: Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
: Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
: all may benefit.
:
: "Jeff" wrote in message
: o.verio.net...
: Aha! Eminently logical. I'll try it.
:
: How do you create a frame? By frame, do you mean a text box? This is
not
a
: web document.
:
: --
:
: Jeff Stevens
: Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
:
:
:
:
: Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
: Try putting both image and caption (both inline) together in a frame
: sized to the width of the image. Then format the frame to be at the
: right margin.
:
:
: "Jeff" wrote in message
: ...
: If an image is aligned to the right of a page (Word 2002), is there
: a way to center a caption under it (relative to the image)? The
: automatic caption created by Word for the right aligned image is by
: default aligned right which looks particularly bad if the caption
: consists of 2 lines of text.
:
: Formatting it to "center" align is no good because the center
: alignment is relative to the page, not the image.
:
: Is there a way to achieve this?
:
: Thanks.
:
: --
:
: Jeff Stevens
: Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
:
:
:
:
:

I personally try to leave graphics and captions inline insofar as possible
(sometimes I put them in borderless table cells for formatting or to keep
them together), but if you need to wrap text around something, I think
frames may be a bit better-behaved than text boxes. They also have the
advantage that you can see them (though not their precise location) in
Normal view.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Jeff" wrote in message
o.verio.net...
It's a pleasure to be snared, Suzanne.

Your frames did the trick for me. Worked like a charm. It's definitely
going back on my Insert menu.What a trick!

Thanks for helping Suzanne. One last question: Are frames a stable
structure
in a long Word document? This is a 3-400 page book. Will this make the
document more prone to later corruption as I work with it?

--

Jeff Stevens
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Aha! I have snared you. A frame is a "classic" Word feature that
Microsoft
began to hide when the text box was introduced. But it turns out that
there
are many situations where a text box is not suitable, and this is one of
them because Word can't "see" text in a text box for purposes of TOCs,
cross-references, etc.

To get started with frames, display the Forms toolbar. Select both your
graphic and your caption and click on the Insert Frame button. This will
put
both of them in a frame. The frame will probably have a border, which
you
can remove using the No Border button on the Borders palette (flyout
from
the Formatting or Tables and Borders toolbar) or by selecting None in
Format
| Borders and Shading.

Frame positioning is limited compared to text box layout but perfectly
adequate for most purposes. You can choose to have it wrapped or not,
and
you can position it relative to the text to which it is anchored or to
the
page, margin, or column. (You can't format it as Behind Text or In Front
of
Text, but you would rarely want to do that for a graphic and caption,
anyway.) You can drag it with the mouse for rough positioning and then
use
Format Frame to fine-tune the position, experimenting to see the results
of
the various settings. Note that you can also allow the size of the frame
to
adjust automatically to its contents or be fixed at a certain dimension
horizontally or vertically.

If you decide you will use frames often, use Tools | Customize to put
Frame
back on the Insert menu where it belongs. It was removed in Word 97 and
in
that version actually hidden in the Customize dialog under the pseudonym
"Horizontal," but in later versions it appears in the Insert category as
"Frame."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jeff" wrote in message
o.verio.net...
Aha! Eminently logical. I'll try it.

How do you create a frame? By frame, do you mean a text box? This is
not
a
web document.

--

Jeff Stevens
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam




Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Try putting both image and caption (both inline) together in a frame
sized to the width of the image. Then format the frame to be at the
right margin.


"Jeff" wrote in message
...
If an image is aligned to the right of a page (Word 2002), is there
a way to center a caption under it (relative to the image)? The
automatic caption created by Word for the right aligned image is by
default aligned right which looks particularly bad if the caption
consists of 2 lines of text.

Formatting it to "center" align is no good because the center
alignment is relative to the page, not the image.

Is there a way to achieve this?

Thanks.

--

Jeff Stevens
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam