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Word 2007 Equation Editor: Permutations, Combinations?
I haven't found any support in the new Equation Editor for properly
formatting Permutations (nPr) or Combinations (nCr). Are they here somewhere, or do I have to cobble something together? Their display would format the n and r elements in subscript, one before and one after the P or C. 
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Word 2007 Equation Editor: Permutations, Combinations?
You'll need to cobblebut then save your cobbled version as an equation or
an autocorrect entry for future use. Start a new equation, then type the following inside the equation container: {underscore}n{spacebar}C{underscore}r{spacebar} This will give you nCr (where n & r are subscripted). It will also give you an empty box before the n, which you can ignore (and if you can make it not show at all... let me know how, because I haven't discovered a method yet). Of course, this is all much easier to do in Word without the equation editor... unless, of course, you need additional things that only the equation editor can do. You might find this resource useful, since Word 2007's equation editor seems to "speak" the UTN28 Plain Text Math language: http://unicode.org/notes/tn28/UTN28...extMathv2.pdf  Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Coily" wrote in message ... I haven't found any support in the new Equation Editor for properly formatting Permutations (nPr) or Combinations (nCr). Are they here somewhere, or do I have to cobble something together? Their display would format the n and r elements in subscript, one before and one after the P or C. 
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Word 2007 Equation Editor: Permutations, Combinations?
Thanks, Herb. Found that and played with it for a while. Some refinements:
This uses the \hairsp (hairline space character) since a regular space is translated to a box for an unknown. Entering CtrlI before the C avoids the switch to italic. Alt+= to start. Enter: \hairsp, underscore, n, space, Ctrl+I, C, underscore, r, space. Unfortunately, I couldn't get this faithfully represented in Math AutoCorrect. The link to other math notations will be helpful. "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote: You'll need to cobblebut then save your cobbled version as an equation or an autocorrect entry for future use. Start a new equation, then type the following inside the equation container: {underscore}n{spacebar}C{underscore}r{spacebar} This will give you nCr (where n & r are subscripted). It will also give you an empty box before the n, which you can ignore (and if you can make it not show at all... let me know how, because I haven't discovered a method yet). Of course, this is all much easier to do in Word without the equation editor... unless, of course, you need additional things that only the equation editor can do. You might find this resource useful, since Word 2007's equation editor seems to "speak" the UTN28 Plain Text Math language: http://unicode.org/notes/tn28/UTN28...extMathv2.pdf  Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Coily" wrote in message ... I haven't found any support in the new Equation Editor for properly formatting Permutations (nPr) or Combinations (nCr). Are they here somewhere, or do I have to cobble something together? Their display would format the n and r elements in subscript, one before and one after the P or C. 
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Word 2007 Equation Editor: Permutations, Combinations?
On Apr 26, 9:43*pm, Coily wrote:
Thanks, Herb. *Found that and played with it for a while. *Some refinements: This uses the \hairsp (hairline space character) since a regular space is translated to a box for an unknown. *Entering CtrlI before the C avoids the switch to italic. Alt+= to start. *Enter: \hairsp, underscore, n, space, Ctrl+I, C, underscore, r, space. Unfortunately, I couldn't get this faithfully represented in Math AutoCorrect. *The link to other math notations will be helpful. "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote: You'll need to cobblebut then save your cobbled version as an equation or an autocorrect entry for future use. Start a new equation, then type the following inside the equation container: {underscore}n{spacebar}C{underscore}r{spacebar} This will give you nCr (where n & r are subscripted). It will also give you an empty box before the n, which you can ignore (and if you can make it not show at all... let me know how, because I haven't discovered a method yet). Of course, this is all much easier to do in Word without the equation editor... unless, of course, you need additional things that only the equation editor can do. You might find this resource useful, since Word 2007's equation editor seems to "speak" the UTN28 Plain Text Math language: http://unicode.org/notes/tn28/UTN28...extMathv2.pdf  Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog:http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web:http://www.herbtyson.com "Coily" wrote in message ... I haven't found any support in the new Equation Editor for properly formattingPermutations(nPr) or Combinations (nCr). *Are they here somewhere, or do I have to cobble something together? *Their display would format the n and r elements in subscript, one before and one after the P or C. Hide quoted text   Show quoted text  I have read with interest your question re notation for permutations and combinations. I have 2 questions: 1. In Word 2007 how do I insert a hair space? I don't understand what I read about U +200A etc. 2. Is it possible to superscript n and subscript r. I did manage by accident to get 2Cr with the 2 superscripted and the r subscripted, but couldn't repeat the feat. Your use of Alt seems different to what I read about superscripting and subscripting. Thanks Frager Thanks Frager 
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Word 2007 Equation Editor: Permutations, Combinations?
Hi Frager,
Alt= (Alt + equal sign) is the keyboard shortcut equivalent to Insert=Equation=Insert New Equation. A hairspace is one of the predefined Math Autocorrect (shorthand) entries for Word 2007 (Alt, T, A)  Math Autocorrect. When you're in an equation you can type \hairsp as shorthand for a hairspace or \zwsp for a zerowidth space. There's a list you can print out in Word help under the topic of 'math autocorrect' In the original example the poster, Coily, asked how to write formatting Permutations (nPr) or Combinations (nCr) To insert a new equation use Alt= To type the Combination above within the Equation Editor Mathzone so that you have a result of: n subscript C as plain (not italicized) text r as superscript typethe following in a math zone Alt= (to create a new, empty equation) \zwsp (to enter a zero width space) space (this one is optional since the next char is punctuation) _ (an underscore. This starts a subscript string) n space "C" (put the C in quotes) space ^ (above the 6 on the regular keyboard, starts a subscript string) r space For a couple of quick video step by step examples of writing equations in linear format mode click on either the 'exponents and fractions' or 'integral' links on http://blogs.msdn.com/microsoft_offi...Word2007.aspx For a link to the PDF file that covers what you can type check http://blogs.msdn.com/murrays/archiv...06/742274.aspx (they hyperlink under "here" in the first blog entry. =============== "Frager" wrote in message ... I have read with interest your question re notation for permutations and combinations. I have 2 questions: 1. In Word 2007 how do I insert a hair space? I don't understand what I read about U +200A etc. 2. Is it possible to superscript n and subscript r. I did manage by accident to get 2Cr with the 2 superscripted and the r subscripted, but couldn't repeat the feat. Your use of Alt seems different to what I read about superscripting and subscripting. Thanks Frager Thanks Frager  Bob Buckland ?:) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* 
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Word 2007 Equation Editor: Permutations, Combinations?
Correction to the last message.
typing ^ starts a superscript rather than a subscript string 
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Word 2007 Equation Editor: Permutations, Combinations?
Bob,
Thanks very much for your reply. I still have to do a lot of reading up on Equations in Word 2007. Your help is much appreciated Frager "Bob Buckland ?:)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote in message ... Correction to the last message. typing ^ starts a superscript rather than a subscript string 
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to type n(superscript)Pr(subscript) type
\hairsp space ^n space P_r space 
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