[Ms. Odom]

Hello. Can I convert a PDF to a Word document using Adobe Acrobat 7
Professional or Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional? Thanks.

[Carol]

If you have the full version of Adobe Acrobat you can export to Word but you
may need to do some cleanup afterwards.
--
Carol A. Bratt, MCP



"Ms. Odom" wrote:

Hello. Can I convert a PDF to a Word document using Adobe Acrobat 7
Professional or Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional? Thanks.

[Graham Mayor]

That rather depends on what the document contains and how it was created. If
it was created from a simple Word document then you can save as a Word
document from Acrobat and you may get a reasonable facsimile of the
original. If it wasn't then you may need to use OCR based conversion
software. With either method you will have some editing to do to recreate
the original. The whole point of PDF format is that it is a not readily
editable graphics format.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Ms. Odom wrote:
Hello. Can I convert a PDF to a Word document using Adobe Acrobat 7
Professional or Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional? Thanks.

[Roger]

I have a pdf file that I think was created using Word, I need to know if I
convert that pdf file back to MS Word will the original document information
of the original MS Word file be there?

In short, does MS Word also include the Document information when a person
uses MS Word to create a pdf file?
And, is that information still there after the pdf file is converted back to
MS Word?

--
Thanks,
Roger



"Carol" wrote:

If you have the full version of Adobe Acrobat you can export to Word but you
may need to do some cleanup afterwards.
--
Carol A. Bratt, MCP



"Ms. Odom" wrote:

Hello. Can I convert a PDF to a Word document using Adobe Acrobat 7
Professional or Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional? Thanks.

[Roger]

For some reason I am signed in however, I cannot post a message.
When I click on new and question it just takes me back to the same window
when I clicked on New and question.

I can't find out how to post a message.
I turned off pop up blocker.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

--
Thanks,
Roger



"Carol" wrote:

If you have the full version of Adobe Acrobat you can export to Word but you
may need to do some cleanup afterwards.
--
Carol A. Bratt, MCP



"Ms. Odom" wrote:

Hello. Can I convert a PDF to a Word document using Adobe Acrobat 7
Professional or Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional? Thanks.

[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Hi Roger:

Your message made it :-)

No, not all of the Document Information from a Word file is passed into a
PDF. That's one of the reasons people use PDFs.

But some of it is. Which information are you interested in, and which
program are you using to make the PDF?

If you use Adobe Acrobat, the amount of information stored in the PDF is
configured by the settings you use when you make it.

Cheers


On 24/1/07 5:26 AM, in article
, "Roger"
wrote:

I have a pdf file that I think was created using Word, I need to know if I
convert that pdf file back to MS Word will the original document information
of the original MS Word file be there?

In short, does MS Word also include the Document information when a person
uses MS Word to create a pdf file?
And, is that information still there after the pdf file is converted back to
MS Word?

--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant
Technical Writer.
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410

[newbieee]

I use PDFtoWord V.3 shareware . You can find it at : www.verypdf.com. Try
it out it does conversion for the first 5 pages for free and give you 99
tries before the trial expires.
It works better than the abbytransformer 2

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

That rather depends on what the document contains and how it was created. If
it was created from a simple Word document then you can save as a Word
document from Acrobat and you may get a reasonable facsimile of the
original. If it wasn't then you may need to use OCR based conversion
software. With either method you will have some editing to do to recreate
the original. The whole point of PDF format is that it is a not readily
editable graphics format.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Ms. Odom wrote:
Hello. Can I convert a PDF to a Word document using Adobe Acrobat 7
Professional or Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional? Thanks.

[Cardlaw]

When you create a pdf with Adobe Acrobat I believe it is also possible
to attach the original word document to the pdf.




--
Cardlaw

[Theo]

There's another converter that works better in my opinion:

www.solidpdf.com

They have a trial that allows you to convert one page at a time.
--
Sincerely,

Theo Carpenter


"newbieee" wrote:

I use PDFtoWord V.3 shareware . You can find it at : www.verypdf.com. Try
it out it does conversion for the first 5 pages for free and give you 99
tries before the trial expires.
It works better than the abbytransformer 2

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

That rather depends on what the document contains and how it was created. If
it was created from a simple Word document then you can save as a Word
document from Acrobat and you may get a reasonable facsimile of the
original. If it wasn't then you may need to use OCR based conversion
software. With either method you will have some editing to do to recreate
the original. The whole point of PDF format is that it is a not readily
editable graphics format.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Ms. Odom wrote:
Hello. Can I convert a PDF to a Word document using Adobe Acrobat 7
Professional or Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional? Thanks.

[Roger]

This has to do with a copyright infringement federal court case where they
removed my company name and my name and inserted theirs. I got the proof I
need for this one.

HOWEVER, there are other files that are most likely copyrighted information
of other companies, that they also stole and are giving to their clients
without paying certainly myself and I would assume this is a pattern of this
company.

What I am trying to do is to show that stealing documents and removing the
rightful copyright holder's name and inserting their company name,
consultant's name, etc. is a pattern of theirs. I need to find the original
copyright holder's name and try to contact them (in which case, they might
also have a copyright infringement case against this company) to support my
allegation.

I have done a hex dump and my name is still in the file, even though it was
removed from the document properties. However, when I did a hex dump of the
pdf file I couldn't find much and therefore if i could convert the document
back to the original word file (which is what I hope was used to create it
before it was converted to the pdf) I think the theft company was the one who
might have converted it to the pdf, however, I don't know.

Basically, I have a little knowledge of pdf's hex dumps etc., probably just
enough to get me in trouble, ha ha.

I COULD REALLY USE A PROGRAM that could take the 2 bytes for each character
and convert it back to the original text.
Is there such a program?
All the hex dump programs I have found will take a file and do a hex dump
and let you edit the file, etc. but I haven't found one that would convert
the bytes back into original characters.

Furthermore, in some cases, it appears to me that some info is encrypted
with very strange symbols.

Any help anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Roger

--
Thanks,
Roger



"John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macinto" wrote:

Hi Roger:

Your message made it :-)

No, not all of the Document Information from a Word file is passed into a
PDF. That's one of the reasons people use PDFs.

But some of it is. Which information are you interested in, and which
program are you using to make the PDF?

If you use Adobe Acrobat, the amount of information stored in the PDF is
configured by the settings you use when you make it.

Cheers


On 24/1/07 5:26 AM, in article
, "Roger"
wrote:

I have a pdf file that I think was created using Word, I need to know if I
convert that pdf file back to MS Word will the original document information
of the original MS Word file be there?

In short, does MS Word also include the Document information when a person
uses MS Word to create a pdf file?
And, is that information still there after the pdf file is converted back to
MS Word?

--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant
Technical Writer.
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410

[Robert M. Franz (RMF)]

Hello Roger

Roger wrote:
[..]
I have done a hex dump and my name is still in the file, even though it was
removed from the document properties. However, when I did a hex dump of the
pdf file I couldn't find much and therefore if i could convert the document
back to the original word file (which is what I hope was used to create it
before it was converted to the pdf) I think the theft company was the one who
might have converted it to the pdf, however, I don't know.

In general, I'd say that whoever creates such a PDF is likely not
wanting to include round-tripping information. PDF is about
representation of characters on screen/paper. If the relevant
information for you is not any more present, no converter will help you.


Basically, I have a little knowledge of pdf's hex dumps etc., probably just
enough to get me in trouble, ha ha.

I COULD REALLY USE A PROGRAM that could take the 2 bytes for each character
and convert it back to the original text.

For each character of what? PDF (like the supposedly original Word file)
is a binary format. Full of pointers (bytes not equating to any
"characters" whatsoever, but necessary for any parser to navigate in the
file.


Is there such a program?
All the hex dump programs I have found will take a file and do a hex dump
and let you edit the file, etc. but I haven't found one that would convert
the bytes back into original characters.

Furthermore, in some cases, it appears to me that some info is encrypted
with very strange symbols.

That's probably the standard reaction when looking at a binary file. :-)

The specialists for PDF structure sit in comp.text.pdf, if you want to
take this there. I don't have high hopes that you find what you are
looking for, FWIW.

HTH
Robert
--
/"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | MS
\ / | MVP
X Against HTML | for
/ \ in e-mail & news | Word

[Roger]

--
Thanks,
Roger



"Robert M. Franz (RMF)" wrote:

Hello Roger

Roger wrote:
[..]
I have done a hex dump and my name is still in the file, even though it was
removed from the document properties. However, when I did a hex dump of the
pdf file I couldn't find much and therefore if i could convert the document
back to the original word file (which is what I hope was used to create it
before it was converted to the pdf) I think the theft company was the one who
might have converted it to the pdf, however, I don't know.

In general, I'd say that whoever creates such a PDF is likely not
wanting to include round-tripping information. PDF is about
representation of characters on screen/paper. If the relevant
information for you is not any more present, no converter will help you.


Basically, I have a little knowledge of pdf's hex dumps etc., probably just
enough to get me in trouble, ha ha.

I COULD REALLY USE A PROGRAM that could take the 2 bytes for each character
and convert it back to the original text.

For each character of what? PDF (like the supposedly original Word file)
is a binary format. Full of pointers (bytes not equating to any
"characters" whatsoever, but necessary for any parser to navigate in the
file.


Is there such a program?
All the hex dump programs I have found will take a file and do a hex dump
and let you edit the file, etc. but I haven't found one that would convert
the bytes back into original characters.

Furthermore, in some cases, it appears to me that some info is encrypted
with very strange symbols.

That's probably the standard reaction when looking at a binary file. :-)

The specialists for PDF structure sit in comp.text.pdf, if you want to
take this there. I don't have high hopes that you find what you are
looking for, FWIW.

HTH
Robert
--
/"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | MS
\ / | MVP
X Against HTML | for
/ \ in e-mail & news | Word

[Josh Gagnon]

Hi - Found this after searching. deskUNPDF Professional was just released
and does this extremely well. Even found a coupon code for 20% off.

http://www.docudesk.com/deskUNPDF-PR...onverter.shtml

Get the OCR version - it works awesome and save me a ton of work!

"Ms. Odom" wrote:

Hello. Can I convert a PDF to a Word document using Adobe Acrobat 7
Professional or Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional? Thanks.

[Josh Gagnon]

Very old post - but I thought I'd try and help out. They now make a program
for this exact problem. Found this after searching. deskUNPDF Professional
was just released and does this extremely well. Even found a coupon code for
20% off.

http://www.docudesk.com/deskUNPDF-PR...onverter.shtml

Get the OCR version - it works awesome and save me a ton of work!


"Ms. Odom" wrote:

Hello. Can I convert a PDF to a Word document using Adobe Acrobat 7
Professional or Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional? Thanks.