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Default WORD REALLY SUCKS SOMETIMES....

(word 03 on win2kpro)

I very often edit a word doc, do a save as (F12) and then try to move the
original doc to an archive folder. But word thinks the original is in use so
it won't let me. This does not always happen but I understand it when it
does. However, often when I close the copy (so now both are closed), I still
cannot move the original because since I have other completely unrelated
docs open word thinks (or rather doesn't think at all) it's still in use. So
I close all of those and more often than not still have a problem because
Outlook is running. The point is that all too often I have to close ALL my
open word docs AND Outlook just to delete or mvoe or rename a doc file that
I closed a long time ago. IT REALLY SUCKS.


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Sounds like pilot error to me - see
http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm and
http://www.gmayor.com/automatically_backup.htm

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Keith G Hicks wrote:
(word 03 on win2kpro)

I very often edit a word doc, do a save as (F12) and then try to move
the original doc to an archive folder. But word thinks the original
is in use so it won't let me. This does not always happen but I
understand it when it does. However, often when I close the copy (so
now both are closed), I still cannot move the original because since
I have other completely unrelated docs open word thinks (or rather
doesn't think at all) it's still in use. So I close all of those and
more often than not still have a problem because Outlook is running.
The point is that all too often I have to close ALL my open word docs
AND Outlook just to delete or mvoe or rename a doc file that I closed
a long time ago. IT REALLY SUCKS.



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Thanks but it's hardly "pilot error." It has nothing whatsoever to do with
backups or crashes. I can start Outlook and word fresh right after my system
starts up. Open a word doc, do a save as, close both docs and still not be
able to move the original. The message is "There has been a sharing
violation. The source or target may be in use." Something to that effect. My
favorite part of that message is the "MAY be in use." It's clear that word
isn't sure so it's just covering itself just in case. Until I close all word
docs and outllook I'm unable to move, delete or rename the file.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Sounds like pilot error to me - see
http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm and
http://www.gmayor.com/automatically_backup.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Keith G Hicks wrote:
(word 03 on win2kpro)

I very often edit a word doc, do a save as (F12) and then try to move
the original doc to an archive folder. But word thinks the original
is in use so it won't let me. This does not always happen but I
understand it when it does. However, often when I close the copy (so
now both are closed), I still cannot move the original because since
I have other completely unrelated docs open word thinks (or rather
doesn't think at all) it's still in use. So I close all of those and
more often than not still have a problem because Outlook is running.
The point is that all too often I have to close ALL my open word docs
AND Outlook just to delete or mvoe or rename a doc file that I closed
a long time ago. IT REALLY SUCKS.




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Are you working on a network? There may be some network file permission thing
happening. What you are describing isn't not normal.

"Keith G Hicks" wrote:

Thanks but it's hardly "pilot error." It has nothing whatsoever to do with
backups or crashes. I can start Outlook and word fresh right after my system
starts up. Open a word doc, do a save as, close both docs and still not be
able to move the original. The message is "There has been a sharing
violation. The source or target may be in use." Something to that effect. My
favorite part of that message is the "MAY be in use." It's clear that word
isn't sure so it's just covering itself just in case. Until I close all word
docs and outllook I'm unable to move, delete or rename the file.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Sounds like pilot error to me - see
http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm and
http://www.gmayor.com/automatically_backup.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Keith G Hicks wrote:
(word 03 on win2kpro)

I very often edit a word doc, do a save as (F12) and then try to move
the original doc to an archive folder. But word thinks the original
is in use so it won't let me. This does not always happen but I
understand it when it does. However, often when I close the copy (so
now both are closed), I still cannot move the original because since
I have other completely unrelated docs open word thinks (or rather
doesn't think at all) it's still in use. So I close all of those and
more often than not still have a problem because Outlook is running.
The point is that all too often I have to close ALL my open word docs
AND Outlook just to delete or mvoe or rename a doc file that I closed
a long time ago. IT REALLY SUCKS.





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Keith,

You may need to programmatically close down Word by setting the application
to Nothing.

Try asking the folks in the Programming section how to do this.

HTH


"Keith G Hicks" wrote:

(word 03 on win2kpro)

I very often edit a word doc, do a save as (F12) and then try to move the
original doc to an archive folder. But word thinks the original is in use so
it won't let me. This does not always happen but I understand it when it
does. However, often when I close the copy (so now both are closed), I still
cannot move the original because since I have other completely unrelated
docs open word thinks (or rather doesn't think at all) it's still in use. So
I close all of those and more often than not still have a problem because
Outlook is running. The point is that all too often I have to close ALL my
open word docs AND Outlook just to delete or mvoe or rename a doc file that
I closed a long time ago. IT REALLY SUCKS.





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Nope. Not on a network.

"Tim in Ottawa" wrote in message
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Are you working on a network? There may be some network file permission
thing
happening. What you are describing isn't not normal.

"Keith G Hicks" wrote:

Thanks but it's hardly "pilot error." It has nothing whatsoever to do with
backups or crashes. I can start Outlook and word fresh right after my

system
starts up. Open a word doc, do a save as, close both docs and still not be
able to move the original. The message is "There has been a sharing
violation. The source or target may be in use." Something to that effect.

My
favorite part of that message is the "MAY be in use." It's clear that word
isn't sure so it's just covering itself just in case. Until I close all

word
docs and outllook I'm unable to move, delete or rename the file.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Sounds like pilot error to me - see
http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm and
http://www.gmayor.com/automatically_backup.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Keith G Hicks wrote:
(word 03 on win2kpro)

I very often edit a word doc, do a save as (F12) and then try to move
the original doc to an archive folder. But word thinks the original
is in use so it won't let me. This does not always happen but I
understand it when it does. However, often when I close the copy (so
now both are closed), I still cannot move the original because since
I have other completely unrelated docs open word thinks (or rather
doesn't think at all) it's still in use. So I close all of those and
more often than not still have a problem because Outlook is running.
The point is that all too often I have to close ALL my open word docs
AND Outlook just to delete or mvoe or rename a doc file that I closed
a long time ago. IT REALLY SUCKS.







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Did you remove all the orphan temporray files as suggested in the link?

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My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Keith G Hicks wrote:
Thanks but it's hardly "pilot error." It has nothing whatsoever to do
with backups or crashes. I can start Outlook and word fresh right
after my system starts up. Open a word doc, do a save as, close both
docs and still not be able to move the original. The message is
"There has been a sharing violation. The source or target may be in
use." Something to that effect. My favorite part of that message is
the "MAY be in use." It's clear that word isn't sure so it's just
covering itself just in case. Until I close all word docs and
outllook I'm unable to move, delete or rename the file.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Sounds like pilot error to me - see
http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm and
http://www.gmayor.com/automatically_backup.htm


Keith G Hicks wrote:
(word 03 on win2kpro)

I very often edit a word doc, do a save as (F12) and then try to move
the original doc to an archive folder. But word thinks the original
is in use so it won't let me. This does not always happen but I
understand it when it does. However, often when I close the copy (so
now both are closed), I still cannot move the original because since
I have other completely unrelated docs open word thinks (or rather
doesn't think at all) it's still in use. So I close all of those and
more often than not still have a problem because Outlook is running.
The point is that all too often I have to close ALL my open word docs
AND Outlook just to delete or mvoe or rename a doc file that I closed
a long time ago. IT REALLY SUCKS.



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