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Word vs. PowerPoint
I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint
presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.) |
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The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes
for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can print out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.) |
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The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can print out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.) |
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I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for
each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can print out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)- |
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Word vs. PowerPoint
I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for
each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can print out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)- |
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My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly
frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can print out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)- |
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Word vs. PowerPoint
My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly
frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can print out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)- |
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Word vs. PowerPoint
There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes
with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. *And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can print out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)-- |
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Word vs. PowerPoint
There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes
with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. *And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can print out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)-- |
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I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then
importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can print out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)-- |
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I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can print out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)-- |
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At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I
don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. |
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At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I
don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. |
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I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can
make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can print out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)--- |
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Word vs. PowerPoint
I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can
make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can print out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)--- |
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I just discovered another drawback. I picked the wrong one of the
silly preset formats and deleted the slide -- and the notes went with it. (I'd saved all but the last paragraph, of course. None of that "I didn't save my work for 17 hours and Word crashed can I get my file back?" stuff.) On Jan 22, 11:51*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can print out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)---- |
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I just discovered another drawback. I picked the wrong one of the
silly preset formats and deleted the slide -- and the notes went with it. (I'd saved all but the last paragraph, of course. None of that "I didn't save my work for 17 hours and Word crashed can I get my file back?" stuff.) On Jan 22, 11:51*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can print out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)---- |
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Yikes. I guess I'm lucky that the few presentations I've had to prepare have
been based on text given to me by someone else, not something I was composing from scratch. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I just discovered another drawback. I picked the wrong one of the silly preset formats and deleted the slide -- and the notes went with it. (I'd saved all but the last paragraph, of course. None of that "I didn't save my work for 17 hours and Word crashed can I get my file back?" stuff.) On Jan 22, 11:51 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)---- |
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Yikes. I guess I'm lucky that the few presentations I've had to prepare have
been based on text given to me by someone else, not something I was composing from scratch. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I just discovered another drawback. I picked the wrong one of the silly preset formats and deleted the slide -- and the notes went with it. (I'd saved all but the last paragraph, of course. None of that "I didn't save my work for 17 hours and Word crashed can I get my file back?" stuff.) On Jan 22, 11:51 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)---- |
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Hmm, deleting a slide would of course get rid of the notes for that slide as
well (since they are stored together)... I don't see why that would be a surprise? Or am I missing something? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yikes. I guess I'm lucky that the few presentations I've had to prepare have been based on text given to me by someone else, not something I was composing from scratch. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I just discovered another drawback. I picked the wrong one of the silly preset formats and deleted the slide -- and the notes went with it. (I'd saved all but the last paragraph, of course. None of that "I didn't save my work for 17 hours and Word crashed can I get my file back?" stuff.) On Jan 22, 11:51 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)---- |
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Hmm, deleting a slide would of course get rid of the notes for that slide as
well (since they are stored together)... I don't see why that would be a surprise? Or am I missing something? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yikes. I guess I'm lucky that the few presentations I've had to prepare have been based on text given to me by someone else, not something I was composing from scratch. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I just discovered another drawback. I picked the wrong one of the silly preset formats and deleted the slide -- and the notes went with it. (I'd saved all but the last paragraph, of course. None of that "I didn't save my work for 17 hours and Word crashed can I get my file back?" stuff.) On Jan 22, 11:51 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)---- |
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I got the impression he didn't delete the slide but just changed the layout.
When I do that, though, I don't lose any content. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Hmm, deleting a slide would of course get rid of the notes for that slide as well (since they are stored together)... I don't see why that would be a surprise? Or am I missing something? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yikes. I guess I'm lucky that the few presentations I've had to prepare have been based on text given to me by someone else, not something I was composing from scratch. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I just discovered another drawback. I picked the wrong one of the silly preset formats and deleted the slide -- and the notes went with it. (I'd saved all but the last paragraph, of course. None of that "I didn't save my work for 17 hours and Word crashed can I get my file back?" stuff.) On Jan 22, 11:51 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)---- |
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I got the impression he didn't delete the slide but just changed the layout.
When I do that, though, I don't lose any content. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Hmm, deleting a slide would of course get rid of the notes for that slide as well (since they are stored together)... I don't see why that would be a surprise? Or am I missing something? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yikes. I guess I'm lucky that the few presentations I've had to prepare have been based on text given to me by someone else, not something I was composing from scratch. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I just discovered another drawback. I picked the wrong one of the silly preset formats and deleted the slide -- and the notes went with it. (I'd saved all but the last paragraph, of course. None of that "I didn't save my work for 17 hours and Word crashed can I get my file back?" stuff.) On Jan 22, 11:51 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)---- |
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Indeed, if changing the layout deleted the note, that would be a problem!
-- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I got the impression he didn't delete the slide but just changed the layout. When I do that, though, I don't lose any content. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Hmm, deleting a slide would of course get rid of the notes for that slide as well (since they are stored together)... I don't see why that would be a surprise? Or am I missing something? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yikes. I guess I'm lucky that the few presentations I've had to prepare have been based on text given to me by someone else, not something I was composing from scratch. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I just discovered another drawback. I picked the wrong one of the silly preset formats and deleted the slide -- and the notes went with it. (I'd saved all but the last paragraph, of course. None of that "I didn't save my work for 17 hours and Word crashed can I get my file back?" stuff.) On Jan 22, 11:51 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)---- |
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Indeed, if changing the layout deleted the note, that would be a problem!
-- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I got the impression he didn't delete the slide but just changed the layout. When I do that, though, I don't lose any content. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Hmm, deleting a slide would of course get rid of the notes for that slide as well (since they are stored together)... I don't see why that would be a surprise? Or am I missing something? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yikes. I guess I'm lucky that the few presentations I've had to prepare have been based on text given to me by someone else, not something I was composing from scratch. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I just discovered another drawback. I picked the wrong one of the silly preset formats and deleted the slide -- and the notes went with it. (I'd saved all but the last paragraph, of course. None of that "I didn't save my work for 17 hours and Word crashed can I get my file back?" stuff.) On Jan 22, 11:51 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? 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I couldn't find a way to change the layout after the slide was already
in the document. And the slide and the notes are in separate windows and never interact, so why wouldn't they count as separate things? On Jan 25, 8:41*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I got the impression he didn't delete the slide but just changed the layout. When I do that, though, I don't lose any content. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Hmm, deleting a slide would of course get rid of the notes for that slide as well (since they are stored together)... I don't see why that would be a surprise? Or am I missing something? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yikes. I guess I'm lucky that the few presentations I've had to prepare have been based on text given to me by someone else, not something I was composing from scratch. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message .... I just discovered another drawback. I picked the wrong one of the silly preset formats and deleted the slide -- and the notes went with it. (I'd saved all but the last paragraph, of course. None of that "I didn't save my work for 17 hours and Word crashed can I get my file back?" stuff.) On Jan 22, 11:51 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)----- |
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I couldn't find a way to change the layout after the slide was already
in the document. And the slide and the notes are in separate windows and never interact, so why wouldn't they count as separate things? On Jan 25, 8:41*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I got the impression he didn't delete the slide but just changed the layout. When I do that, though, I don't lose any content. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Hmm, deleting a slide would of course get rid of the notes for that slide as well (since they are stored together)... I don't see why that would be a surprise? Or am I missing something? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yikes. I guess I'm lucky that the few presentations I've had to prepare have been based on text given to me by someone else, not something I was composing from scratch. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message .... I just discovered another drawback. I picked the wrong one of the silly preset formats and deleted the slide -- and the notes went with it. (I'd saved all but the last paragraph, of course. None of that "I didn't save my work for 17 hours and Word crashed can I get my file back?" stuff.) On Jan 22, 11:51 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)----- |
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The notes are for a given slide. I don't know about 2007, but in PPT 2003, I
can change the slide layout just by clicking on a different picture in the Layout task pane. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I couldn't find a way to change the layout after the slide was already in the document. And the slide and the notes are in separate windows and never interact, so why wouldn't they count as separate things? On Jan 25, 8:41 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I got the impression he didn't delete the slide but just changed the layout. When I do that, though, I don't lose any content. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Hmm, deleting a slide would of course get rid of the notes for that slide as well (since they are stored together)... I don't see why that would be a surprise? Or am I missing something? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yikes. I guess I'm lucky that the few presentations I've had to prepare have been based on text given to me by someone else, not something I was composing from scratch. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I just discovered another drawback. I picked the wrong one of the silly preset formats and deleted the slide -- and the notes went with it. (I'd saved all but the last paragraph, of course. None of that "I didn't save my work for 17 hours and Word crashed can I get my file back?" stuff.) On Jan 22, 11:51 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)----- |
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The notes are for a given slide. I don't know about 2007, but in PPT 2003, I
can change the slide layout just by clicking on a different picture in the Layout task pane. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I couldn't find a way to change the layout after the slide was already in the document. And the slide and the notes are in separate windows and never interact, so why wouldn't they count as separate things? On Jan 25, 8:41 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I got the impression he didn't delete the slide but just changed the layout. When I do that, though, I don't lose any content. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Hmm, deleting a slide would of course get rid of the notes for that slide as well (since they are stored together)... I don't see why that would be a surprise? Or am I missing something? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yikes. I guess I'm lucky that the few presentations I've had to prepare have been based on text given to me by someone else, not something I was composing from scratch. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I just discovered another drawback. I picked the wrong one of the silly preset formats and deleted the slide -- and the notes went with it. (I'd saved all but the last paragraph, of course. None of that "I didn't save my work for 17 hours and Word crashed can I get my file back?" stuff.) On Jan 22, 11:51 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)----- |
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In PowerPoint 2007, you can click Layout on the Home tab and choose a
different page layout (and/or you can change the theme on the Design tab). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The notes are for a given slide. I don't know about 2007, but in PPT 2003, I can change the slide layout just by clicking on a different picture in the Layout task pane. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I couldn't find a way to change the layout after the slide was already in the document. And the slide and the notes are in separate windows and never interact, so why wouldn't they count as separate things? On Jan 25, 8:41 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I got the impression he didn't delete the slide but just changed the layout. When I do that, though, I don't lose any content. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Hmm, deleting a slide would of course get rid of the notes for that slide as well (since they are stored together)... I don't see why that would be a surprise? Or am I missing something? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yikes. I guess I'm lucky that the few presentations I've had to prepare have been based on text given to me by someone else, not something I was composing from scratch. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I just discovered another drawback. I picked the wrong one of the silly preset formats and deleted the slide -- and the notes went with it. (I'd saved all but the last paragraph, of course. None of that "I didn't save my work for 17 hours and Word crashed can I get my file back?" stuff.) On Jan 22, 11:51 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)----- |
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In PowerPoint 2007, you can click Layout on the Home tab and choose a different page layout (and/or you can change the theme on the Design tab). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The notes are for a given slide. I don't know about 2007, but in PPT 2003, I can change the slide layout just by clicking on a different picture in the Layout task pane. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I couldn't find a way to change the layout after the slide was already in the document. And the slide and the notes are in separate windows and never interact, so why wouldn't they count as separate things? On Jan 25, 8:41 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I got the impression he didn't delete the slide but just changed the layout. When I do that, though, I don't lose any content. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Hmm, deleting a slide would of course get rid of the notes for that slide as well (since they are stored together)... I don't see why that would be a surprise? Or am I missing something? -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Yikes. I guess I'm lucky that the few presentations I've had to prepare have been based on text given to me by someone else, not something I was composing from scratch. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I just discovered another drawback. I picked the wrong one of the silly preset formats and deleted the slide -- and the notes went with it. (I'd saved all but the last paragraph, of course. None of that "I didn't save my work for 17 hours and Word crashed can I get my file back?" stuff.) On Jan 22, 11:51 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I see you compose the same way I do, as a single continuous thread. This can make editing very tough because any rearrangement of content breaks transitions that have been carefully designed and requires a lot of rewriting. I find that people who take a more methodical approach can often see a better (or at least more organized) way of presenting content than I do, but I think there's a lot to be said for logical development where each idea flows out of the previous one. Given this workflow, though, I think you have no choice but to use PPT for your speaker notes. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... At the risk of turning this thread into a composition class, I find I don't do well by starting with an outline. If I just wait around, eventually the opening sentence comes to me and then the rest of it all follows, point from point -- and I can often then go back and insert headings and subheadings. For this talk I have a very disparate group of topics and making the slides for each thing I want to mention leads me to know what is to be said about each one -- and then I can put them into a better order. This is an hour-long Plenary Address, which translates to 45-50 min. of talking, which translates to as much as 6000 words. On Jan 22, 11:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've never tried the technique of creating on outline in Word and then importing it into PPT to create slides, and that's not the issue you're dealing with, anyway, so it's irrelevant, but it's one feature to remember. As for the Notes, if are strictly speaker notes (just for your own use, not for handouts), the formatting is not critical provided they convey the mental jogs you need to explicate the slide content. The speaker notes aren't really intended to be any more formal than the 3x5 cards you might have had before PPT existed. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... There's _one_ advantage: I can rearrange slides and the text goes with. That's better than having the two programs open and dealing with both slides and Outline View. -- No "transitions" or "animations," though. On Jan 22, 10:19 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My experience with PPT, as an "expert" Word user, have been uniformly frustrating, and not just in the Notes pane. I gather that PPT 2007 has some of the features I miss, but I've been using 2003 because so far most of the presentations I've made have been for a client still using Office 2003. In your situation, I'd be inclined to compose the text in Word and paste it into PPT at the very least (if there's a lot of it). I'm hoping that someday I'll become more than a total novice PPT user, but I suspect that most PPT experts know more about Word (because everybody uses it) than I do about PPT! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've made some slides and am typing the talk in the Notes frame for each slide as I make them. Whether I'll keep them there for the final product remains to be seen. It's really annoying that the simplest word processing acts (like double-clicking to select a word) don't work. And there aren't any templates to put my keyboard shortcuts in. On Jan 21, 2:48 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The one advantage I can see of the Notes is that you will see only the notes for the slide you are currently showing. Alternatively, you can out a notes page that has a thumbnail of your slide along with the speaker notes and use that as hard copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I'm giving a lecture next month, only my third with a PowerPoint presentation -- and only the first that'll have an audience of more than about 10, so I'll be writing it out fully in advance. And with the new Windows 7 laptop (yay!), I can even take advantage of the dual- monitor thing and have the slide show on the projector and a working view on the computer. Does anyone know of arguments for or against using the Notes function in PowerPoint to contain my entire text, vs. simply writing it in a word processor the usual way and printing it out? (I am assuming that I can write it in Word and paste it into PP's Notes frame slide by slide.)----- |
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