[marthamemphis]

I have huge documents -over 100 pages with different footers throughout.
I 'finally' figured out how to change the footer (best way is to go from the
back of the document forward, but cannot get the document to work when I need
to start numbering the 3rd page of the document as Page 1.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

You'll need a section break between pages 2 and 3, then just go to Format
Page Number and set it to Start at 1. See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...rontMatter.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marthamemphis" wrote in message
...
I have huge documents -over 100 pages with different footers throughout.
I 'finally' figured out how to change the footer (best way is to go from
the
back of the document forward, but cannot get the document to work when I
need
to start numbering the 3rd page of the document as Page 1.

[marthamemphis]

This does not work - I have tried it a zillion times! When you do a section
break - does it need to be "continuous"? If it is not continuous, it causes
an additional page break. If I have different footer on both page 2 and 3,
it gets even more complicated. Do I do my footers first? If I have no
footer on page 2, and a different footer on both 2 and 3, then I need page 3
to actually start numbering as page #1. I have tried everything.........I am
missing something! I think on page 2, I would put "different first page",
right? But, I can't put the same thing on the 2nd page. I have created a
dummy document and none of this is working.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'll need a section break between pages 2 and 3, then just go to Format
Page Number and set it to Start at 1. See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...rontMatter.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marthamemphis" wrote in message
...
I have huge documents -over 100 pages with different footers throughout.
I 'finally' figured out how to change the footer (best way is to go from
the
back of the document forward, but cannot get the document to work when I
need
to start numbering the 3rd page of the document as Page 1.

[Stefan Blom]

With a "Next page" section break a the end of page 2, you would be
able to create different footers on pages 1, 2, and 3. Just unlink the
footer in the second section and, for the first section, enable the
"Different first page" option in File | Page Setup, Layout tab.

For more about headers and footers, see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm.

For more about sections, see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...thSections.htm.

For more about page numbering, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/PageNumbering.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"marthamemphis" wrote in message
news
This does not work - I have tried it a zillion times! When you do a
section
break - does it need to be "continuous"? If it is not continuous,
it causes
an additional page break. If I have different footer on both page
2 and 3,
it gets even more complicated. Do I do my footers first? If I have
no
footer on page 2, and a different footer on both 2 and 3, then I
need page 3
to actually start numbering as page #1. I have tried
everything.........I am
missing something! I think on page 2, I would put "different first
page",
right? But, I can't put the same thing on the 2nd page. I have
created a
dummy document and none of this is working.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'll need a section break between pages 2 and 3, then just go to
Format
Page Number and set it to Start at 1. See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...rontMatter.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marthamemphis" wrote in
message
...
I have huge documents -over 100 pages with different footers
throughout.
I 'finally' figured out how to change the footer (best way is to
go from
the
back of the document forward, but cannot get the document to
work when I
need
to start numbering the 3rd page of the document as Page 1.

[marthamemphis]

Once again tonight, I will try everything that has been suggested. But, I
have been trying these very things for several days now. There is something
missing. Can I ask you to do the following and see what you get: Do a dummy
10 page document naming them Title Page, Table of Contents, Advisory,
Properties, Real Estate, Security, telecommunications, call center, customer
service and flight operations.
1) no footer or page # on page 1 (title page)
2) Left footer "master document" throughout rest of 9 pages
3) Beginning with table of contents, put each of the next 9 titles on
individual page, i.e. Master Document
Table of Contents

Master Document
Advisory

Now it gets tricky........Begin number "advisory" as page # 1

First - would you suggest doing the page numbering first?
Or, do you divide it up into sections first?

I honest to goodness have tried everything so many times........

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

With a "Next page" section break a the end of page 2, you would be
able to create different footers on pages 1, 2, and 3. Just unlink the
footer in the second section and, for the first section, enable the
"Different first page" option in File | Page Setup, Layout tab.

For more about headers and footers, see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm.

For more about sections, see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...thSections.htm.

For more about page numbering, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/PageNumbering.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"marthamemphis" wrote in message
news
This does not work - I have tried it a zillion times! When you do a
section
break - does it need to be "continuous"? If it is not continuous,
it causes
an additional page break. If I have different footer on both page
2 and 3,
it gets even more complicated. Do I do my footers first? If I have
no
footer on page 2, and a different footer on both 2 and 3, then I
need page 3
to actually start numbering as page #1. I have tried
everything.........I am
missing something! I think on page 2, I would put "different first
page",
right? But, I can't put the same thing on the 2nd page. I have
created a
dummy document and none of this is working.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'll need a section break between pages 2 and 3, then just go to
Format
Page Number and set it to Start at 1. See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...rontMatter.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marthamemphis" wrote in
message
...
I have huge documents -over 100 pages with different footers
throughout.
I 'finally' figured out how to change the footer (best way is to
go from
the
back of the document forward, but cannot get the document to
work when I
need
to start numbering the 3rd page of the document as Page 1.

[Daiya Mitchell]

Tips--hit ¶ on the standard toolbar so that you can see the section breaks.
You might start with a fresh doc and copy and paste ONLY the text into this
new doc. Don't copy the paragraph marks (¶) at the end of each paragraph,
those can carry section formatting that you don't want.

I'm not going to create a dummy document, because I have made this work
previously, and it does work. Here's one way I might do it:

Type Title page--leave header/footer blank

Section break (next page)
Type Page 2/TOC
Unlink header/footer from previous--enter footer text but no page number

Section break (next page)
Type Page 3 and forward
Unlink header/footer from previous--enter footer text and page number. Click
on Format Page Number on header/footer toolbar to set page numbering at 1.

For the other sections (Advisory, Properties, etc), you should be fine
starting each one with a regular Page Break. A section break is only needed
if you want to change the footer text (and sometimes not even then).

Hope that helps,


On 8/29/06 5:55 PM, "marthamemphis" wrote:

Once again tonight, I will try everything that has been suggested. But, I
have been trying these very things for several days now. There is something
missing. Can I ask you to do the following and see what you get: Do a dummy
10 page document naming them Title Page, Table of Contents, Advisory,
Properties, Real Estate, Security, telecommunications, call center, customer
service and flight operations.
1) no footer or page # on page 1 (title page)
2) Left footer "master document" throughout rest of 9 pages
3) Beginning with table of contents, put each of the next 9 titles on
individual page, i.e. Master Document
Table of Contents

Master Document
Advisory

Now it gets tricky........Begin number "advisory" as page # 1

First - would you suggest doing the page numbering first?
Or, do you divide it up into sections first?

I honest to goodness have tried everything so many times........

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

With a "Next page" section break a the end of page 2, you would be
able to create different footers on pages 1, 2, and 3. Just unlink the
footer in the second section and, for the first section, enable the
"Different first page" option in File | Page Setup, Layout tab.

For more about headers and footers, see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm.

For more about sections, see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...thSections.htm.

For more about page numbering, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/PageNumbering.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"marthamemphis" wrote in message
news
This does not work - I have tried it a zillion times! When you do a
section
break - does it need to be "continuous"? If it is not continuous,
it causes
an additional page break. If I have different footer on both page
2 and 3,
it gets even more complicated. Do I do my footers first? If I have
no
footer on page 2, and a different footer on both 2 and 3, then I
need page 3
to actually start numbering as page #1. I have tried
everything.........I am
missing something! I think on page 2, I would put "different first
page",
right? But, I can't put the same thing on the 2nd page. I have
created a
dummy document and none of this is working.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'll need a section break between pages 2 and 3, then just go to
Format
Page Number and set it to Start at 1. See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...rontMatter.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marthamemphis" wrote in
message
...
I have huge documents -over 100 pages with different footers
throughout.
I 'finally' figured out how to change the footer (best way is to
go from
the
back of the document forward, but cannot get the document to
work when I
need
to start numbering the 3rd page of the document as Page 1.











--
Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word
Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/
MacWord Tips: http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html
What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

[marthamemphis]

Stefan - I cannot thank you enough! I still want to send Bill Gates an email
because page numbering combined with footers and sections should NOT be this
difficult!!!!! The 6 sentences you wrote in another post "save my job!" You
recommended going back to the first of the very long document I was working
on, inserting page, making sure continuous was checked, etc. Honest to
goodness, I have worked on this mess for weeks and had about 75 pages of
instructions from various sources. Your 6 sentences (along with a couple of
other suggestions) resolved all of my problems. If anybody needs to know how
to do continuous numbering with long documents and many sections and many
footers, let me know. I can make your life much easier with one-page
instructions instead of 75!!!!! Thanks Stefan!!!!!! I love you!!!!!

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

With a "Next page" section break a the end of page 2, you would be
able to create different footers on pages 1, 2, and 3. Just unlink the
footer in the second section and, for the first section, enable the
"Different first page" option in File | Page Setup, Layout tab.

For more about headers and footers, see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm.

For more about sections, see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...thSections.htm.

For more about page numbering, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/PageNumbering.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"marthamemphis" wrote in message
news
This does not work - I have tried it a zillion times! When you do a
section
break - does it need to be "continuous"? If it is not continuous,
it causes
an additional page break. If I have different footer on both page
2 and 3,
it gets even more complicated. Do I do my footers first? If I have
no
footer on page 2, and a different footer on both 2 and 3, then I
need page 3
to actually start numbering as page #1. I have tried
everything.........I am
missing something! I think on page 2, I would put "different first
page",
right? But, I can't put the same thing on the 2nd page. I have
created a
dummy document and none of this is working.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'll need a section break between pages 2 and 3, then just go to
Format
Page Number and set it to Start at 1. See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...rontMatter.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marthamemphis" wrote in
message
...
I have huge documents -over 100 pages with different footers
throughout.
I 'finally' figured out how to change the footer (best way is to
go from
the
back of the document forward, but cannot get the document to
work when I
need
to start numbering the 3rd page of the document as Page 1.

[Stefan Blom]

I'm glad I could help.

Just out of curiosity, I'd like to know which that other post was? In
which newsgroup? What was the subject line?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"marthamemphis" wrote in message
...
Stefan - I cannot thank you enough! I still want to send Bill Gates
an email
because page numbering combined with footers and sections should NOT
be this
difficult!!!!! The 6 sentences you wrote in another post "save my
job!" You
recommended going back to the first of the very long document I was
working
on, inserting page, making sure continuous was checked, etc. Honest
to
goodness, I have worked on this mess for weeks and had about 75
pages of
instructions from various sources. Your 6 sentences (along with a
couple of
other suggestions) resolved all of my problems. If anybody needs to
know how
to do continuous numbering with long documents and many sections and
many
footers, let me know. I can make your life much easier with
one-page
instructions instead of 75!!!!! Thanks Stefan!!!!!! I love you!!!!!

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

With a "Next page" section break a the end of page 2, you would be
able to create different footers on pages 1, 2, and 3. Just unlink
the
footer in the second section and, for the first section, enable
the
"Different first page" option in File | Page Setup, Layout tab.

For more about headers and footers, see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm.

For more about sections, see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...thSections.htm.

For more about page numbering, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/PageNumbering.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"marthamemphis" wrote in message
news
This does not work - I have tried it a zillion times! When you
do a
section
break - does it need to be "continuous"? If it is not
continuous,
it causes
an additional page break. If I have different footer on both
page
2 and 3,
it gets even more complicated. Do I do my footers first? If I
have
no
footer on page 2, and a different footer on both 2 and 3, then I
need page 3
to actually start numbering as page #1. I have tried
everything.........I am
missing something! I think on page 2, I would put "different
first
page",
right? But, I can't put the same thing on the 2nd page. I have
created a
dummy document and none of this is working.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'll need a section break between pages 2 and 3, then just
go to
Format
Page Number and set it to Start at 1. See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...rontMatter.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marthamemphis"
wrote in
message
...
I have huge documents -over 100 pages with different footers
throughout.
I 'finally' figured out how to change the footer (best way
is to
go from
the
back of the document forward, but cannot get the document to
work when I
need
to start numbering the 3rd page of the document as Page 1.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

If a section break causes an extra page break, then it may be because you
already have a manual page break; if so, you need to delete that.

In order to set up "Different first page" and "Different odd and even"
headers and footers in a dummy document, you must (at least temporarily)
have at least three pages in each section you're working in, assuming you've
unlinked the sections. Be aware that unlinking applies only to like
headers/footers. For more, see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm and the other articles
to which Stefan referred you.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marthamemphis" wrote in message
news
This does not work - I have tried it a zillion times! When you do a
section
break - does it need to be "continuous"? If it is not continuous, it
causes
an additional page break. If I have different footer on both page 2 and
3,
it gets even more complicated. Do I do my footers first? If I have no
footer on page 2, and a different footer on both 2 and 3, then I need page
3
to actually start numbering as page #1. I have tried everything.........I
am
missing something! I think on page 2, I would put "different first page",
right? But, I can't put the same thing on the 2nd page. I have created a
dummy document and none of this is working.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You'll need a section break between pages 2 and 3, then just go to
Format
Page Number and set it to Start at 1. See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...rontMatter.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marthamemphis" wrote in
message
...
I have huge documents -over 100 pages with different footers
throughout.
I 'finally' figured out how to change the footer (best way is to go
from
the
back of the document forward, but cannot get the document to work when
I
need
to start numbering the 3rd page of the document as Page 1.

[Abbas Sarhan]

"marthamemphis" wrote:

I have huge documents -over 100 pages with different footers throughout.
I 'finally' figured out how to change the footer (best way is to go from the
back of the document forward, but cannot get the document to work when I need
to start numbering the 3rd page of the document as Page 1.