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flamestar
 
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Default How do I get rid of page numbers. The page number virus

Actually all I wanted to do was supress the page numberon the first page.
Every word processer does that except this version with is so bad I want
Word Perfect back. When I couldn't supress the first number nothing that help
said even worked remotly. Then I went to edit and backed up and undid the
page number cammand but the page number were still there. Nothing works.
Never has any word processor ever been so poorly designed.
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If you like WordPerfect better than Word, then please please
please use WordPerfect, and stop your whining. You do not have a
page number virus. But you do have a poor attitude.

To insert page numbers and suppress the page number on the first
page, click on Insert | Page Numbers | uncheck the "Show number
on first page" box | OK.

If you can't figure out how to delete the page numbers you
already inserted, then copy and paste the contents of your
current document into a new document. The new document will not
have any page numbers until you insert some.


flamestar wrote:

Actually all I wanted to do was supress the page numberon the first page.
Every word processer does that except this version with is so bad I want
Word Perfect back. When I couldn't supress the first number nothing that help
said even worked remotly. Then I went to edit and backed up and undid the
page number cammand but the page number were still there. Nothing works.
Never has any word processor ever been so poorly designed.


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Charles Kenyon
 
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No virus, you just haven't spent the time to learn how page numbers work.
You will have the best luck putting them in headers and footers and using
the header/footer toolbar to insert them. I never use Insert Page Number
because the result is very difficult to edit.

Here is some general info on moving from Word Perfect to Word:

Word and Word Perfect work very differently from one another. Each program's
methods have strengths and weaknesses; but, if you try to use one of these
programs as if it were the other, it is like pushing on a string! You can
easily make a lot of extra work for yourself. If you are unwilling to take
the time to learn to use Word's methods, you should stick to using Word
Perfect, or even Word Pad. You'll have a lot less grief. In the (short) long
term spending the time to learn Word will save you time if you are spending
any time at all (more than an hour a day) using Word.

See http://www.addbalance.com/word/wordperfect.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...ordPerfect.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...AndGotchas.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/RevealCodes.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...Converters.htm
http://businesssoft.about.com/comput.../blconvert.htm
for information on Word for Word Perfect users.

For mo
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...platePart2.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...platePart1.htm
http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Number...gExplained.htm
http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...latesStore.htm


Function Keys

In Word 2000 (or later) You can get the function keys to display in a
special toolbar at the bottom of the screen if you want (something like
pressing F3 twice in WP). The following macro will do this.
Sub ShowMeFunctionKeys()
Commandbars("Function Key Display").Visible = True
End Sub

Word's Extend key (F8) gives something similar to block processing.


Formatting and Styles

Learn about Styles - really learn!
http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm I resisted for years and now
regret every day of those years because although that string was still very
hard to push, it kept getting longer and longer, and had some very important
projects tied to it! Once you understand styles and the Word concept of
organizing things into Chinese boxes everything falls into place and instead
of pushing a string, you can push a button that turns on the very powerful
text processing machine known as Microsoft Word and it will start doing your
work for you instead of running around behind you trying to undo what you
just thought you did.


Converting documents Word / Word Perfect

Some special characters in Word Perfect documents don't convert well to
Word. There is a macro to assist with this described at
http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/...html#macroword and can be found
at http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/WPSymbolConv.bas.
This was prepared by Edward Mendelson.
Otherwise, look at the macro from http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=212396
Use these on _copies_!

As for converting documents from Word Perfect to _use_ in Word... In a word,
don't plan on it. I would not recommend using converted documents long-term.
They will be filled with formatting anomolies that will get you at the worst
time. This is especially true of any documents containing automatic
numbering or bullets. Try recreating form documents in Word using the
following process:
In Word Perfect (if you still have it, in Word if not) save your files as
text files.
Use your converted files as references to show you how you want your
formatting to look.
Create a new document in Word and insert the text from the text file. Save
this new document as a Word template. Format it the way you want using
styles, not direct formatting. Save it again.
To use a template within Word, use File = New and pick your template. This
will create a new document for you.

Merge documents have special problems and should be recreated from text
files or retyped in Word. To convert data files, consider generating labels
in WP as a document, converting that to Word, and then using
http://www.gmayor.com/convert_labels...mail_merge.htm to get a new Word
data file.

Note that conversions usually do create documents that look passable and
print OK; the problems I'm referring to have to do with editing / making
changes, that is, using the documents long-term. (See below on reusing
documents vs. using templates.)

Conversion back to Word Perfect: There is a problem (in addition to the ones
mentioned for conversion _to_ Word) with Version 2002 (XP) and later of
Word. The conversion file only works for conversion _to_ Word, not from Word
to Word Perfect! Earlier versions went both ways. To fix this, you need to
find the old conversion file WPFT532.CNV from a Word 97 or Word 2000
installation and copy it to your new installation, replacing the file of the
same name. Note, the change making the file one-way was done as a security
measure. While I don't know of any problems the old file causes, keep the
new installation's file somewhere as a backup just in case.


Boilerplate and Forms

In WP a lot of people use macros to hold chunks of text - boilerplate. In
Word this function is filled by Templates, AutoText and AutoCorrect, not
macros. Follow the links at
http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebre...s.htm#AutoText for more
information on these tools.

You can use FILLIN and ASK fields or UserForms to query the user. For more
about online forms, follow the links at
http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebresources.htm#Forms or
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...nTheBlanks.htm especially Dian
Chapman's series of articles. You may also want to look at
http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/TblsFl...nesInForms.htm.


Reusing Documents vs. Using templates

General practice in WP is to have a document and copy and edit it to create
a new document. This is not good practice in Word. In Word, construct a
good, tight, template for your documents and use that template when
constructing new documents. Among other things, this can avoid embarrassing
"metadata" (http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/metadata.htm) and things
like surprise headers and footers from creeping into new documents.

It's a lot of reading, I know. It's OK to chunk it down and do a bit each
day, but I would recommend that you make it a top priority to do that bit
each day. In the (short) long run, it will save you both time and grief.
--

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome!
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"flamestar" wrote in message
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Actually all I wanted to do was supress the page numberon the first page.
Every word processer does that except this version with is so bad I want
Word Perfect back. When I couldn't supress the first number nothing that
help
said even worked remotly. Then I went to edit and backed up and undid the
page number cammand but the page number were still there. Nothing works.
Never has any word processor ever been so poorly designed.



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Joe McGuire
 
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I often share many wistful recollections of Word Perfect, especially the DOS
version (talk about antedeluvian!!), particularly when--after some years of
using Word--I get frustrated trying to do stuff that should be REALLY
simple. But, hey, the economic Darwinists among us will cluck, Bill won.
Being a monopoly didn't hurt. No need to be the best. Just the
biggest.Don't get me started. I didn't just say that, did I???

Back to your issue. If you set up page numbering using Insert, Page
Numbers, follow what Garfield wrote. There is another way to get the page
number off the first page. If you inserted page numbers the other way, by
creating them in a footer, you need to go back to page 1. Go to File, Page
Setup, Layout and put a checkmark in the box for Different First Page. Your
page 2 footer may now become your page 1 footer; and now, since you have a
Different First Page, your page 2 footer is probably gone. Just
cut-and-paste it back into the footer for page 2, leave the page 1 header
blank and that ought to do it. Note: This is based on Word 2003; menus in
earlier versions might differ somewhat but the concept is the same. If you
find there is already a check mark in that little box, then cut your page 1
header and paste it into a footer for page 2.

Hope this helps.


"flamestar" wrote in message
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Actually all I wanted to do was supress the page numberon the first page.
Every word processer does that except this version with is so bad I want
Word Perfect back. When I couldn't supress the first number nothing that
help
said even worked remotly. Then I went to edit and backed up and undid the
page number cammand but the page number were still there. Nothing works.
Never has any word processor ever been so poorly designed.



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