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Hi,

A problem has developed in with my Word links that I hope someone can help
me with.

I have a large set of documentation in Word format. There are a few chapters
that are included in more than one document. What I have done is create
these chapters as separate documents, and included them in the required
documents using { INCLUDTEXT "Chapter2.doc" }

So far so good.

Within the linked chapter (Chapter2.doc in the example above), there are
cross reference links to bookmarks WITHIN the same document - i.e.,
Chapter2.doc has cross references to bookmarks within Chapter2.doc

Until now this has worked with no problems - Chapter2 starts on page 15 in
one document, and the bookmark is on page 25; in another document Chapter2
starts on page 20 and the bookmark is on page30.

Today, when I opened the same document, all cross references within
Chpater2 are listed on the wrong page number - if Chapter 2 runs from pages
15-40, all cross references within Chapter2 point to page 40.

I tried updating fields and reinserting the linked document - no luck

Does anyone know how this error suddenly appeared, and how I can get rid of
it?


Michael



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Cindy M -WordMVP-
 
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Hi Michael,

Are you certain the cross-references still exist as REF fields, and that the
bookmarks are still present? Are you certain the fields are not locked
(Ctrl+F11 locks; Ctrl+Shift+F11 unlocks)? (Open the original document to check
this).

If that's the case, are you sure the IncludeText field in the target document
has not been converted to plain text, or locked?

Which version of Word are we dealing with?

A problem has developed in with my Word links that I hope someone can help
me with.

I have a large set of documentation in Word format. There are a few chapters
that are included in more than one document. What I have done is create
these chapters as separate documents, and included them in the required
documents using { INCLUDTEXT "Chapter2.doc" }

So far so good.

Within the linked chapter (Chapter2.doc in the example above), there are
cross reference links to bookmarks WITHIN the same document - i.e.,
Chapter2.doc has cross references to bookmarks within Chapter2.doc

Until now this has worked with no problems - Chapter2 starts on page 15 in
one document, and the bookmark is on page 25; in another document Chapter2
starts on page 20 and the bookmark is on page30.

Today, when I opened the same document, all cross references within
Chpater2 are listed on the wrong page number - if Chapter 2 runs from pages
15-40, all cross references within Chapter2 point to page 40.

I tried updating fields and reinserting the linked document - no luck

Does anyone know how this error suddenly appeared, and how I can get rid of
it?


Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004)
http://www.word.mvps.org

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Cindy, (or any other smart helpful people on this list...)

Thanks for your suggestions.

I'm using Word 2002, SP3 on Windows XP Home Edition.

I double-checked that the bookmarks are present and unlocked in the child
document, but the links still aren't displaying correctly in the parent
document.

For example, in the child document there is a cross reference {PAGEREF
BOOKMARK1 \p}

In the child document, this is displayed as "on page 30"
In the Parent document, it is displayed as "Below"

If I remove the \p qualifier, the parent document lists the last page number
that the Included text runs to (i.e., The INCLUDETEXT runs from page
140-200, the link now points to page 200, even though the bookmark is on
page 170)

I'm wondering if this is related to FieldCalcSecurityLevel registry entry as
outlined on MS Knowledge base on http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=330079
I tried entering and modifying this registry entry, but so far it didn't
seem to make any difference at all.

I have a deadline looming and this problem has put me behind in my work by
several days, any ideas or suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated.

TIA,


Michael

"Cindy M -WordMVP-" wrote in message
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Hi Michael,

Are you certain the cross-references still exist as REF fields, and that
the
bookmarks are still present? Are you certain the fields are not locked
(Ctrl+F11 locks; Ctrl+Shift+F11 unlocks)? (Open the original document to
check
this).

If that's the case, are you sure the IncludeText field in the target
document
has not been converted to plain text, or locked?

Which version of Word are we dealing with?

A problem has developed in with my Word links that I hope someone can
help
me with.

I have a large set of documentation in Word format. There are a few
chapters
that are included in more than one document. What I have done is create
these chapters as separate documents, and included them in the required
documents using { INCLUDTEXT "Chapter2.doc" }

So far so good.

Within the linked chapter (Chapter2.doc in the example above), there are
cross reference links to bookmarks WITHIN the same document - i.e.,
Chapter2.doc has cross references to bookmarks within Chapter2.doc

Until now this has worked with no problems - Chapter2 starts on page 15
in
one document, and the bookmark is on page 25; in another document
Chapter2
starts on page 20 and the bookmark is on page30.

Today, when I opened the same document, all cross references within
Chpater2 are listed on the wrong page number - if Chapter 2 runs from
pages
15-40, all cross references within Chapter2 point to page 40.

I tried updating fields and reinserting the linked document - no luck

Does anyone know how this error suddenly appeared, and how I can get rid
of
it?


Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004)
http://www.word.mvps.org

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Hi Michael,

OK, open a "child" document in its own window, make sure the references are
displaying correctly.

Now open the "parent" document, display the field codes (without trying to
update the fields, first), go to the IncludeText for that document and add the
\! switch at the end of the field code. Update the field and see if anything
changes?

I'm using Word 2002, SP3 on Windows XP Home Edition.

I double-checked that the bookmarks are present and unlocked in the child
document, but the links still aren't displaying correctly in the parent
document.

For example, in the child document there is a cross reference {PAGEREF
BOOKMARK1 \p}

In the child document, this is displayed as "on page 30"
In the Parent document, it is displayed as "Below"

If I remove the \p qualifier, the parent document lists the last page number
that the Included text runs to (i.e., The INCLUDETEXT runs from page
140-200, the link now points to page 200, even though the bookmark is on
page 170)

I'm wondering if this is related to FieldCalcSecurityLevel registry entry as
outlined on MS Knowledge base on http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=330079
I tried entering and modifying this registry entry, but so far it didn't
seem to make any difference at all.

I have a deadline looming and this problem has put me behind in my work by
several days, any ideas or suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated.


Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004)
http://www.word.mvps.org

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I had tried this before, but tried it again - when I add the \! switch, the
Parent document lists the page number that appears in the child document
(Page 30), not the page that the bookmark appears on in the Parent document.
(I think that this is how the \! switch is supposed to work)

If I remove the \! switch and update fields, the page references all point
to the page that the INCLUDETEXT starts on (which is different from before,
before it was pointing to the last page of the INCLUDETEXT).

If I update fields again, it points to the last page of the includetext.

In either case, it's pointing to the wrong page

Any other thoughts?

M

"Cindy M -WordMVP-" wrote in message
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Hi Michael,

OK, open a "child" document in its own window, make sure the references
are
displaying correctly.

Now open the "parent" document, display the field codes (without trying to
update the fields, first), go to the IncludeText for that document and add
the
\! switch at the end of the field code. Update the field and see if
anything
changes?

I'm using Word 2002, SP3 on Windows XP Home Edition.

I double-checked that the bookmarks are present and unlocked in the child
document, but the links still aren't displaying correctly in the parent
document.

For example, in the child document there is a cross reference {PAGEREF
BOOKMARK1 \p}

In the child document, this is displayed as "on page 30"
In the Parent document, it is displayed as "Below"

If I remove the \p qualifier, the parent document lists the last page
number
that the Included text runs to (i.e., The INCLUDETEXT runs from page
140-200, the link now points to page 200, even though the bookmark is on
page 170)

I'm wondering if this is related to FieldCalcSecurityLevel registry entry
as
outlined on MS Knowledge base on
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=330079
I tried entering and modifying this registry entry, but so far it didn't
seem to make any difference at all.

I have a deadline looming and this problem has put me behind in my work
by
several days, any ideas or suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated.


Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004)
http://www.word.mvps.org

This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or
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Hi Michael,

I had tried this before, but tried it again - when I add the \! switch, the
Parent document lists the page number that appears in the child document
(Page 30), not the page that the bookmark appears on in the Parent document.
(I think that this is how the \! switch is supposed to work)

If I remove the \! switch and update fields, the page references all point
to the page that the INCLUDETEXT starts on (which is different from before,
before it was pointing to the last page of the INCLUDETEXT).

If I update fields again, it points to the last page of the includetext.

In either case, it's pointing to the wrong page

Right. OK, I just tried a quick test on my installation (Word 2003) and I'm
not seeing the problem. So I'm guessing this may be an issue in this set of
documents.

If you:

create a new document with a few pages (type this then, press Enter:
rand(30,6)

Then insert a heading at the top, and a cross-reference to that heading with
the page number at the bottom. Now save and close.

Now create another multi-page document and insert/file with link for the first
file you created...

...does the field behave correctly?

If it does, then we can be reasonably sure we're dealing with some kind of
structural damage in one or the other document.

In this case, first try inserting a link to a "chapter" document into the
second test document. Does it behave correctly in this document?

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004)
http://www.word.mvps.org

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