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It's nice of Word to save unsaved files when it crashes, but it
messes up hyperlinks. Example: The displayed text is MyInfo and the
hyperlink is D:\Help\MyInfo.doc. After a crash the hyperlink becomes
C:\Documents and Settings\Help\MyInfo.doc.

A. Is there any way of stopping this happening?
B. Is there any way of correcting these changes with Search and
Replace?

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I can't imagine that Word would crash so much that you'd find it a hardship
that the hyperlinks don't work, so perhaps you should do some things to keep
Word from crashing so much:
1. http://www.officearticles.com/misc/h...hard_drive.htm
2.
http://www.officearticles.com/word/s...osoft_word.htm
However, you can hit Alt+F9 to see the hyperlink CODE, and then you can
easily Find/Replace within hyperlinks.

************
Hope it helps!
Anne Troy
www.OfficeArticles.com

"Greg" wrote in message
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It's nice of Word to save unsaved files when it crashes, but it
messes up hyperlinks. Example: The displayed text is MyInfo and the
hyperlink is D:\Help\MyInfo.doc. After a crash the hyperlink becomes
C:\Documents and Settings\Help\MyInfo.doc.

A. Is there any way of stopping this happening?
B. Is there any way of correcting these changes with Search and
Replace?



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Thanks, Anne, for a couple of nice links, and for the tip on Alt+F9,
which will really help me clean things up.

I don't get more than 3 or 4 Word crashes a week. I have one file
with over 1,000 hyperlinks that seems to crash repeatedly when it
decides to crash. Of course, I try to save repeatedly, but as hard as I
try something always seems to get away from me.

Anne Troy wrote:
I can't imagine that Word would crash so much that you'd find it a hardship
that the hyperlinks don't work, so perhaps you should do some things to keep
Word from crashing so much:
1. http://www.officearticles.com/misc/h...hard_drive.htm
2.
http://www.officearticles.com/word/s...osoft_word.htm
However, you can hit Alt+F9 to see the hyperlink CODE, and then you can
easily Find/Replace within hyperlinks.

************
Hope it helps!
Anne Troy
www.OfficeArticles.com

"Greg" wrote in message
oups.com...
It's nice of Word to save unsaved files when it crashes, but it
messes up hyperlinks. Example: The displayed text is MyInfo and the
hyperlink is D:\Help\MyInfo.doc. After a crash the hyperlink becomes
C:\Documents and Settings\Help\MyInfo.doc.

A. Is there any way of stopping this happening?
B. Is there any way of correcting these changes with Search and
Replace?


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I don't get more than three or four Word crashes per year. I guess I'm just
lucky--or careful.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg" wrote in message
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Thanks, Anne, for a couple of nice links, and for the tip on Alt+F9,
which will really help me clean things up.

I don't get more than 3 or 4 Word crashes a week. I have one file
with over 1,000 hyperlinks that seems to crash repeatedly when it
decides to crash. Of course, I try to save repeatedly, but as hard as I
try something always seems to get away from me.

Anne Troy wrote:
I can't imagine that Word would crash so much that you'd find it a

hardship
that the hyperlinks don't work, so perhaps you should do some things to

keep
Word from crashing so much:
1.

http://www.officearticles.com/misc/h...hard_drive.htm
2.

http://www.officearticles.com/word/s...osoft_word.htm
However, you can hit Alt+F9 to see the hyperlink CODE, and then you can
easily Find/Replace within hyperlinks.

************
Hope it helps!
Anne Troy
www.OfficeArticles.com

"Greg" wrote in message
oups.com...
It's nice of Word to save unsaved files when it crashes, but it
messes up hyperlinks. Example: The displayed text is MyInfo and the
hyperlink is D:\Help\MyInfo.doc. After a crash the hyperlink becomes
C:\Documents and Settings\Help\MyInfo.doc.

A. Is there any way of stopping this happening?
B. Is there any way of correcting these changes with Search and
Replace?



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Default Nasty trick saving hyperlinks in crashes

The only times I've ever had Word crash are (a) when running macros
that contained mistakes, (b) when beta testing new releases that
contain bugs, and (c) when loading corrupted documents sent by other
users. Being lucky has little to do with it, but being careful is the
key.

There's also a corollary to Murphy's law involved: Just as carrying an
umbrella at all times seems to prevent rain, having current backups at
all times prevents crashes. :-)

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 12:41:02 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I don't get more than three or four Word crashes per year. I guess I'm just
lucky--or careful.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg" wrote in message
roups.com...
Thanks, Anne, for a couple of nice links, and for the tip on Alt+F9,
which will really help me clean things up.

I don't get more than 3 or 4 Word crashes a week. I have one file
with over 1,000 hyperlinks that seems to crash repeatedly when it
decides to crash. Of course, I try to save repeatedly, but as hard as I
try something always seems to get away from me.

Anne Troy wrote:
I can't imagine that Word would crash so much that you'd find it a

hardship
that the hyperlinks don't work, so perhaps you should do some things to

keep
Word from crashing so much:
1.

http://www.officearticles.com/misc/h...hard_drive.htm
2.

http://www.officearticles.com/word/s...osoft_word.htm
However, you can hit Alt+F9 to see the hyperlink CODE, and then you can
easily Find/Replace within hyperlinks.

************
Hope it helps!
Anne Troy
www.OfficeArticles.com

"Greg" wrote in message
oups.com...
It's nice of Word to save unsaved files when it crashes, but it
messes up hyperlinks. Example: The displayed text is MyInfo and the
hyperlink is D:\Help\MyInfo.doc. After a crash the hyperlink becomes
C:\Documents and Settings\Help\MyInfo.doc.

A. Is there any way of stopping this happening?
B. Is there any way of correcting these changes with Search and
Replace?




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The plot thickens.
The hyperlink I set up is
"D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc".

When I hover the cursor over the displayed text, and when I open the
hyperlink via the button on the toolbar, I see
"file.///C:\Documents and Settings\Help\\0020 Software
Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

But when I press Alt+F9 I see
HYPERLINK "D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

So Alt+F9 isn't a workable way of correcting the hyperlinks.

Jay Freedman wrote:
The only times I've ever had Word crash are (a) when running macros
that contained mistakes, (b) when beta testing new releases that
contain bugs, and (c) when loading corrupted documents sent by other
users. Being lucky has little to do with it, but being careful is the
key.

There's also a corollary to Murphy's law involved: Just as carrying an
umbrella at all times seems to prevent rain, having current backups at
all times prevents crashes. :-)

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 12:41:02 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I don't get more than three or four Word crashes per year. I guess I'm just
lucky--or careful.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg" wrote in message
roups.com...
Thanks, Anne, for a couple of nice links, and for the tip on Alt+F9,
which will really help me clean things up.

I don't get more than 3 or 4 Word crashes a week. I have one file
with over 1,000 hyperlinks that seems to crash repeatedly when it
decides to crash. Of course, I try to save repeatedly, but as hard as I
try something always seems to get away from me.

Anne Troy wrote:
I can't imagine that Word would crash so much that you'd find it a

hardship
that the hyperlinks don't work, so perhaps you should do some things to

keep
Word from crashing so much:
1.

http://www.officearticles.com/misc/h...hard_drive.htm
2.

http://www.officearticles.com/word/s...osoft_word.htm
However, you can hit Alt+F9 to see the hyperlink CODE, and then you can
easily Find/Replace within hyperlinks.

************
Hope it helps!
Anne Troy
www.OfficeArticles.com

"Greg" wrote in message
oups.com...
It's nice of Word to save unsaved files when it crashes, but it
messes up hyperlinks. Example: The displayed text is MyInfo and the
hyperlink is D:\Help\MyInfo.doc. After a crash the hyperlink becomes
C:\Documents and Settings\Help\MyInfo.doc.

A. Is there any way of stopping this happening?
B. Is there any way of correcting these changes with Search and
Replace?



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Because the display text can be different from the underlying link, both
must be changed; see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HyperlinkProbs.htm

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg" wrote in message
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The plot thickens.
The hyperlink I set up is
"D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc".

When I hover the cursor over the displayed text, and when I open the
hyperlink via the button on the toolbar, I see
"file.///C:\Documents and Settings\Help\\0020 Software
Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

But when I press Alt+F9 I see
HYPERLINK "D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

So Alt+F9 isn't a workable way of correcting the hyperlinks.

Jay Freedman wrote:
The only times I've ever had Word crash are (a) when running macros
that contained mistakes, (b) when beta testing new releases that
contain bugs, and (c) when loading corrupted documents sent by other
users. Being lucky has little to do with it, but being careful is the
key.

There's also a corollary to Murphy's law involved: Just as carrying an
umbrella at all times seems to prevent rain, having current backups at
all times prevents crashes. :-)

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 12:41:02 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I don't get more than three or four Word crashes per year. I guess I'm

just
lucky--or careful.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg" wrote in message
roups.com...
Thanks, Anne, for a couple of nice links, and for the tip on Alt+F9,
which will really help me clean things up.

I don't get more than 3 or 4 Word crashes a week. I have one file
with over 1,000 hyperlinks that seems to crash repeatedly when it
decides to crash. Of course, I try to save repeatedly, but as hard as

I
try something always seems to get away from me.

Anne Troy wrote:
I can't imagine that Word would crash so much that you'd find it a
hardship
that the hyperlinks don't work, so perhaps you should do some

things to
keep
Word from crashing so much:
1.
http://www.officearticles.com/misc/h...hard_drive.htm
2.


http://www.officearticles.com/word/s...microsoft_word.

htm
However, you can hit Alt+F9 to see the hyperlink CODE, and then you

can
easily Find/Replace within hyperlinks.

************
Hope it helps!
Anne Troy
www.OfficeArticles.com

"Greg" wrote in message
oups.com...
It's nice of Word to save unsaved files when it crashes, but it
messes up hyperlinks. Example: The displayed text is MyInfo and

the
hyperlink is D:\Help\MyInfo.doc. After a crash the hyperlink

becomes
C:\Documents and Settings\Help\MyInfo.doc.

A. Is there any way of stopping this happening?
B. Is there any way of correcting these changes with Search and
Replace?




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Jay Freedman wrote:
The only times I've ever had Word crash are (a) when running macros
that contained mistakes,


Is this why Greg gets 3 or 4 Word crashes a week?? :-)

It's actually slightly worse than Suzanne says. The 'hover text' can be set
independently of the display text or the url - but the actual url should be
displayed on the status bar.

Anyway, the problem is caused by the fact that hyperlinks are stored as
relative and your autorecovered file ends up in wherever you set under Tools
Options File Locations - and the relative hyperlink thus gets based on

that location.

When you save the recovered document someplace else the hyperlink becomes
fixed to the autorecover location.

If you save the recovered document into the autorecover files location the
hyperlinks based on that will remain relative to the document location. Then
close the file, move it to its original location and reopen it and you
should find that the relative hyperlinks point to the new (and original)
location and all should be well.

I hope that makes sense!

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg" wrote in message
oups.com...
The plot thickens.
The hyperlink I set up is
"D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc".

When I hover the cursor over the displayed text, and when I open the
hyperlink via the button on the toolbar, I see
"file.///C:\Documents and Settings\Help\\0020 Software
Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

But when I press Alt+F9 I see
HYPERLINK "D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

So Alt+F9 isn't a workable way of correcting the hyperlinks.

Jay Freedman wrote:
The only times I've ever had Word crash are (a) when running macros
that contained mistakes, (b) when beta testing new releases that
contain bugs, and (c) when loading corrupted documents sent by other
users. Being lucky has little to do with it, but being careful is the
key.

There's also a corollary to Murphy's law involved: Just as carrying an
umbrella at all times seems to prevent rain, having current backups at
all times prevents crashes. :-)

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 12:41:02 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I don't get more than three or four Word crashes per year. I guess I'm

just
lucky--or careful.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg" wrote in message
roups.com...
Thanks, Anne, for a couple of nice links, and for the tip on Alt+F9,
which will really help me clean things up.

I don't get more than 3 or 4 Word crashes a week. I have one file
with over 1,000 hyperlinks that seems to crash repeatedly when it
decides to crash. Of course, I try to save repeatedly, but as hard as

I
try something always seems to get away from me.

Anne Troy wrote:
I can't imagine that Word would crash so much that you'd find it a
hardship
that the hyperlinks don't work, so perhaps you should do some

things to
keep
Word from crashing so much:
1.
http://www.officearticles.com/misc/h...hard_drive.htm
2.


http://www.officearticles.com/word/s...microsoft_word.

htm
However, you can hit Alt+F9 to see the hyperlink CODE, and then you

can
easily Find/Replace within hyperlinks.

************
Hope it helps!
Anne Troy
www.OfficeArticles.com

"Greg" wrote in message
oups.com...
It's nice of Word to save unsaved files when it crashes, but it
messes up hyperlinks. Example: The displayed text is MyInfo and

the
hyperlink is D:\Help\MyInfo.doc. After a crash the hyperlink

becomes
C:\Documents and Settings\Help\MyInfo.doc.

A. Is there any way of stopping this happening?
B. Is there any way of correcting these changes with Search and
Replace?





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This does make sense, but it's something someone who has just experienced a
crash is unlikely to be calm enough to remember. (And note that the "hover
text" [ScreenTip] is covered in my referenced article.]

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
Jay Freedman wrote:
The only times I've ever had Word crash are (a) when running macros
that contained mistakes,


Is this why Greg gets 3 or 4 Word crashes a week?? :-)

It's actually slightly worse than Suzanne says. The 'hover text' can be

set
independently of the display text or the url - but the actual url should

be
displayed on the status bar.

Anyway, the problem is caused by the fact that hyperlinks are stored as
relative and your autorecovered file ends up in wherever you set under

Tools
Options File Locations - and the relative hyperlink thus gets based on

that location.

When you save the recovered document someplace else the hyperlink becomes
fixed to the autorecover location.

If you save the recovered document into the autorecover files location the
hyperlinks based on that will remain relative to the document location.

Then
close the file, move it to its original location and reopen it and you
should find that the relative hyperlinks point to the new (and original)
location and all should be well.

I hope that makes sense!

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg" wrote in message
oups.com...
The plot thickens.
The hyperlink I set up is
"D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc".

When I hover the cursor over the displayed text, and when I open the
hyperlink via the button on the toolbar, I see
"file.///C:\Documents and Settings\Help\\0020 Software
Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

But when I press Alt+F9 I see
HYPERLINK "D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

So Alt+F9 isn't a workable way of correcting the hyperlinks.

Jay Freedman wrote:
The only times I've ever had Word crash are (a) when running macros
that contained mistakes, (b) when beta testing new releases that
contain bugs, and (c) when loading corrupted documents sent by other
users. Being lucky has little to do with it, but being careful is the
key.

There's also a corollary to Murphy's law involved: Just as carrying an
umbrella at all times seems to prevent rain, having current backups at
all times prevents crashes. :-)

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 12:41:02 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I don't get more than three or four Word crashes per year. I guess

I'm
just
lucky--or careful.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg" wrote in message
roups.com...
Thanks, Anne, for a couple of nice links, and for the tip on

Alt+F9,
which will really help me clean things up.

I don't get more than 3 or 4 Word crashes a week. I have one file
with over 1,000 hyperlinks that seems to crash repeatedly when it
decides to crash. Of course, I try to save repeatedly, but as hard

as
I
try something always seems to get away from me.

Anne Troy wrote:
I can't imagine that Word would crash so much that you'd find it

a
hardship
that the hyperlinks don't work, so perhaps you should do some

things to
keep
Word from crashing so much:
1.

http://www.officearticles.com/misc/h...hard_drive.htm
2.



http://www.officearticles.com/word/s...microsoft_word.
htm
However, you can hit Alt+F9 to see the hyperlink CODE, and then

you
can
easily Find/Replace within hyperlinks.

************
Hope it helps!
Anne Troy
www.OfficeArticles.com

"Greg" wrote in message
oups.com...
It's nice of Word to save unsaved files when it crashes, but it
messes up hyperlinks. Example: The displayed text is MyInfo and

the
hyperlink is D:\Help\MyInfo.doc. After a crash the hyperlink

becomes
C:\Documents and Settings\Help\MyInfo.doc.

A. Is there any way of stopping this happening?
B. Is there any way of correcting these changes with Search and
Replace?






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... it's something someone who has just experienced a
crash is unlikely to be calm enough to remember.


Oh, I quite agree

I didn't say it was good design, just what (I understand) happens! Word's
handling of hyperlinks causes many people problems even without Word
crashes.

Mind you, if Greg crashes Word every day or two he's not likely to be in a
lot of shock. I must say, in passing, that I find crashes to be a bit like
buses - you don't see one for ages and then three come along all at once.

(And note that the "hover
text" [ScreenTip] is covered in my referenced article.]


I will read your article - I'm sure it will be comprehensive.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
This does make sense, but it's something someone who has just experienced

a
crash is unlikely to be calm enough to remember. (And note that the "hover
text" [ScreenTip] is covered in my referenced article.]

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup

so
all may benefit.

"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
Jay Freedman wrote:
The only times I've ever had Word crash are (a) when running macros
that contained mistakes,


Is this why Greg gets 3 or 4 Word crashes a week?? :-)

It's actually slightly worse than Suzanne says. The 'hover text' can be

set
independently of the display text or the url - but the actual url should

be
displayed on the status bar.

Anyway, the problem is caused by the fact that hyperlinks are stored as
relative and your autorecovered file ends up in wherever you set under

Tools
Options File Locations - and the relative hyperlink thus gets based

on
that location.

When you save the recovered document someplace else the hyperlink

becomes
fixed to the autorecover location.

If you save the recovered document into the autorecover files location

the
hyperlinks based on that will remain relative to the document location.

Then
close the file, move it to its original location and reopen it and you
should find that the relative hyperlinks point to the new (and original)
location and all should be well.

I hope that makes sense!

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg" wrote in message
oups.com...
The plot thickens.
The hyperlink I set up is
"D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc".

When I hover the cursor over the displayed text, and when I open the
hyperlink via the button on the toolbar, I see
"file.///C:\Documents and Settings\Help\\0020 Software
Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

But when I press Alt+F9 I see
HYPERLINK "D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

So Alt+F9 isn't a workable way of correcting the hyperlinks.

Jay Freedman wrote:
The only times I've ever had Word crash are (a) when running macros
that contained mistakes, (b) when beta testing new releases that
contain bugs, and (c) when loading corrupted documents sent by other
users. Being lucky has little to do with it, but being careful is

the
key.

There's also a corollary to Murphy's law involved: Just as carrying

an
umbrella at all times seems to prevent rain, having current backups

at
all times prevents crashes. :-)

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 12:41:02 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I don't get more than three or four Word crashes per year. I guess

I'm
just
lucky--or careful.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg" wrote in message
roups.com...
Thanks, Anne, for a couple of nice links, and for the tip on

Alt+F9,
which will really help me clean things up.

I don't get more than 3 or 4 Word crashes a week. I have one file
with over 1,000 hyperlinks that seems to crash repeatedly when it
decides to crash. Of course, I try to save repeatedly, but as

hard
as
I
try something always seems to get away from me.

Anne Troy wrote:
I can't imagine that Word would crash so much that you'd find

it
a
hardship
that the hyperlinks don't work, so perhaps you should do some

things to
keep
Word from crashing so much:
1.

http://www.officearticles.com/misc/h...hard_drive.htm
2.




http://www.officearticles.com/word/s...microsoft_word.
htm
However, you can hit Alt+F9 to see the hyperlink CODE, and then

you
can
easily Find/Replace within hyperlinks.

************
Hope it helps!
Anne Troy
www.OfficeArticles.com

"Greg" wrote in message
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It's nice of Word to save unsaved files when it crashes, but

it
messes up hyperlinks. Example: The displayed text is MyInfo

and
the
hyperlink is D:\Help\MyInfo.doc. After a crash the hyperlink

becomes
C:\Documents and Settings\Help\MyInfo.doc.

A. Is there any way of stopping this happening?
B. Is there any way of correcting these changes with Search

and
Replace?










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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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Default Nasty trick saving hyperlinks in crashes

Yes, once I find something that will crash Word, it will dependably crash it
every time I try. But of course the definition of insanity is doing the same
thing over and over and expecting different results. g

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Words into Type
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"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
... it's something someone who has just experienced a
crash is unlikely to be calm enough to remember.


Oh, I quite agree

I didn't say it was good design, just what (I understand) happens! Word's
handling of hyperlinks causes many people problems even without Word
crashes.

Mind you, if Greg crashes Word every day or two he's not likely to be in a
lot of shock. I must say, in passing, that I find crashes to be a bit like
buses - you don't see one for ages and then three come along all at once.

(And note that the "hover
text" [ScreenTip] is covered in my referenced article.]


I will read your article - I'm sure it will be comprehensive.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
This does make sense, but it's something someone who has just

experienced
a
crash is unlikely to be calm enough to remember. (And note that the

"hover
text" [ScreenTip] is covered in my referenced article.]

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
Jay Freedman wrote:
The only times I've ever had Word crash are (a) when running

macros
that contained mistakes,

Is this why Greg gets 3 or 4 Word crashes a week?? :-)

It's actually slightly worse than Suzanne says. The 'hover text' can

be
set
independently of the display text or the url - but the actual url

should
be
displayed on the status bar.

Anyway, the problem is caused by the fact that hyperlinks are stored

as
relative and your autorecovered file ends up in wherever you set under

Tools
Options File Locations - and the relative hyperlink thus gets

based
on
that location.

When you save the recovered document someplace else the hyperlink

becomes
fixed to the autorecover location.

If you save the recovered document into the autorecover files location

the
hyperlinks based on that will remain relative to the document

location.
Then
close the file, move it to its original location and reopen it and you
should find that the relative hyperlinks point to the new (and

original)
location and all should be well.

I hope that makes sense!

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg" wrote in message
oups.com...
The plot thickens.
The hyperlink I set up is
"D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc".

When I hover the cursor over the displayed text, and when I open the
hyperlink via the button on the toolbar, I see
"file.///C:\Documents and Settings\Help\\0020 Software
Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

But when I press Alt+F9 I see
HYPERLINK "D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir

diacritics.doc"

So Alt+F9 isn't a workable way of correcting the hyperlinks.

Jay Freedman wrote:
The only times I've ever had Word crash are (a) when running

macros
that contained mistakes, (b) when beta testing new releases that
contain bugs, and (c) when loading corrupted documents sent by

other
users. Being lucky has little to do with it, but being careful is

the
key.

There's also a corollary to Murphy's law involved: Just as

carrying
an
umbrella at all times seems to prevent rain, having current

backups
at
all times prevents crashes. :-)

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 12:41:02 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I don't get more than three or four Word crashes per year. I

guess
I'm
just
lucky--or careful.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg" wrote in message
roups.com...
Thanks, Anne, for a couple of nice links, and for the tip on

Alt+F9,
which will really help me clean things up.

I don't get more than 3 or 4 Word crashes a week. I have one

file
with over 1,000 hyperlinks that seems to crash repeatedly when

it
decides to crash. Of course, I try to save repeatedly, but as

hard
as
I
try something always seems to get away from me.

Anne Troy wrote:
I can't imagine that Word would crash so much that you'd find

it
a
hardship
that the hyperlinks don't work, so perhaps you should do some
things to
keep
Word from crashing so much:
1.

http://www.officearticles.com/misc/h...hard_drive.htm
2.





http://www.officearticles.com/word/s...microsoft_word.
htm
However, you can hit Alt+F9 to see the hyperlink CODE, and

then
you
can
easily Find/Replace within hyperlinks.

************
Hope it helps!
Anne Troy
www.OfficeArticles.com

"Greg" wrote in message
oups.com...
It's nice of Word to save unsaved files when it crashes,

but
it
messes up hyperlinks. Example: The displayed text is MyInfo

and
the
hyperlink is D:\Help\MyInfo.doc. After a crash the

hyperlink
becomes
C:\Documents and Settings\Help\MyInfo.doc.

A. Is there any way of stopping this happening?
B. Is there any way of correcting these changes with Search

and
Replace?









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Greg
 
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Default Nasty trick saving hyperlinks in crashes

Suzanne's hyperlink is a most useful overview. I see from it that I
wasn't using the accepted terminology to describe the situation, but
near enough.

Tony's take on how the realities of the hyperlinks looks like it
leads me to a long term solution. Since all my data are stored on drive
D, I've changed the default autorecovery drive to D:\. If that
doesn't do the trick, I'll go through the save and relocate routine
he suggests.

Tony Jollans wrote:
... it's something someone who has just experienced a
crash is unlikely to be calm enough to remember.


Oh, I quite agree

I didn't say it was good design, just what (I understand) happens! Word's
handling of hyperlinks causes many people problems even without Word
crashes.

Mind you, if Greg crashes Word every day or two he's not likely to be in a
lot of shock. I must say, in passing, that I find crashes to be a bit like
buses - you don't see one for ages and then three come along all at once.

(And note that the "hover
text" [ScreenTip] is covered in my referenced article.]


I will read your article - I'm sure it will be comprehensive.

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
This does make sense, but it's something someone who has just experienced

a
crash is unlikely to be calm enough to remember. (And note that the "hover
text" [ScreenTip] is covered in my referenced article.]

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup

so
all may benefit.

"Tony Jollans" My Forename at My Surname dot com wrote in message
...
Jay Freedman wrote:
The only times I've ever had Word crash are (a) when running macros
that contained mistakes,

Is this why Greg gets 3 or 4 Word crashes a week?? :-)

It's actually slightly worse than Suzanne says. The 'hover text' can be

set
independently of the display text or the url - but the actual url should

be
displayed on the status bar.

Anyway, the problem is caused by the fact that hyperlinks are stored as
relative and your autorecovered file ends up in wherever you set under

Tools
Options File Locations - and the relative hyperlink thus gets based

on
that location.

When you save the recovered document someplace else the hyperlink

becomes
fixed to the autorecover location.

If you save the recovered document into the autorecover files location

the
hyperlinks based on that will remain relative to the document location.

Then
close the file, move it to its original location and reopen it and you
should find that the relative hyperlinks point to the new (and original)
location and all should be well.

I hope that makes sense!

--
Enjoy,
Tony


"Greg" wrote in message
oups.com...
The plot thickens.
The hyperlink I set up is
"D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc".

When I hover the cursor over the displayed text, and when I open the
hyperlink via the button on the toolbar, I see
"file.///C:\Documents and Settings\Help\\0020 Software
Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

But when I press Alt+F9 I see
HYPERLINK "D:\\Help\\0020 Software Microsoft\\DOS\\Dir diacritics.doc"

So Alt+F9 isn't a workable way of correcting the hyperlinks.

Jay Freedman wrote:
The only times I've ever had Word crash are (a) when running macros
that contained mistakes, (b) when beta testing new releases that
contain bugs, and (c) when loading corrupted documents sent by other
users. Being lucky has little to do with it, but being careful is

the
key.

There's also a corollary to Murphy's law involved: Just as carrying

an
umbrella at all times seems to prevent rain, having current backups

at
all times prevents crashes. :-)

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 12:41:02 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I don't get more than three or four Word crashes per year. I guess

I'm
just
lucky--or careful.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Greg" wrote in message
roups.com...
Thanks, Anne, for a couple of nice links, and for the tip on

Alt+F9,
which will really help me clean things up.

I don't get more than 3 or 4 Word crashes a week. I have one file
with over 1,000 hyperlinks that seems to crash repeatedly when it
decides to crash. Of course, I try to save repeatedly, but as

hard
as
I
try something always seems to get away from me.

Anne Troy wrote:
I can't imagine that Word would crash so much that you'd find

it
a
hardship
that the hyperlinks don't work, so perhaps you should do some
things to
keep
Word from crashing so much:
1.

http://www.officearticles.com/misc/h...hard_drive.htm
2.




http://www.officearticles.com/word/s...microsoft_word.
htm
However, you can hit Alt+F9 to see the hyperlink CODE, and then

you
can
easily Find/Replace within hyperlinks.

************
Hope it helps!
Anne Troy
www.OfficeArticles.com

"Greg" wrote in message
oups.com...
It's nice of Word to save unsaved files when it crashes, but

it
messes up hyperlinks. Example: The displayed text is MyInfo

and
the
hyperlink is D:\Help\MyInfo.doc. After a crash the hyperlink
becomes
C:\Documents and Settings\Help\MyInfo.doc.

A. Is there any way of stopping this happening?
B. Is there any way of correcting these changes with Search

and
Replace?







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