Page setup = different odd & even; different 1st page
Same as Previous = Off
Version = 2002 (I think.)

My manuscript requires different headers for first, even, and odd pages.
Page numbers are in the footers.

When I insert the page number into the first page, it turns that page into
an odd page and replaces first page with odd page formatting.

I've formatted dozens of other manuscripts and can't figure out what is
different about this one. Help!

I'm not sure what's going on with your document, but you can start
by checking this: Is "Different odd and even" and "Different first
page" is enabled for all sections of your document? Is "Same as
Previous" turned off for *all* headers and footers of each section?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"tinhorn" wrote in message
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Page setup = different odd & even; different 1st page
Same as Previous = Off
Version = 2002 (I think.)

My manuscript requires different headers for first, even, and odd
pages.
Page numbers are in the footers.

When I insert the page number into the first page, it turns that
page into
an odd page and replaces first page with odd page formatting.

I've formatted dozens of other manuscripts and can't figure out what
is
different about this one. Help!

Yes, those were the first things I checked, too.

I got numbers to appear by deleting them all, then inserting them from the
header/footer toolbar instead of Insert, Page Number function, but I had to
center them - no "outside" option.

Using the header/footer toolbar is the recommended way to insert page
numbers in Word (although InsertPage Numbers seems to easy!).

Since you have "Different odd and even" enabled, you can position the
page number differently on odd and even pages (corresponding to the
"Outside" option in the Page Numbers dialog box).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"tinhorn" wrote in message
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Yes, those were the first things I checked, too.

I got numbers to appear by deleting them all, then inserting them
from the
header/footer toolbar instead of Insert, Page Number function, but I
had to
center them - no "outside" option.

Thanks, but y'see, using the header/footer bar, I can specify left or right
justification, but not outside. Outside is an option only when using the
Insert feature. I'm formatting books and the first page of a chapter could
be either odd or even numbered.

Unless you know where to find the "outside" option from the header/footer
toolbar...

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

Using the header/footer toolbar is the recommended way to insert page
numbers in Word (although InsertPage Numbers seems to easy!).

Since you have "Different odd and even" enabled, you can position the
page number differently on odd and even pages (corresponding to the
"Outside" option in the Page Numbers dialog box).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"tinhorn" wrote in message
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Yes, those were the first things I checked, too.

I got numbers to appear by deleting them all, then inserting them
from the
header/footer toolbar instead of Insert, Page Number function, but I
had to
center them - no "outside" option.

Outside of what? You can change the left and right indents to make your
header/footer margins wider than the page. If you are trying to put the page
number up in the middle margins, you can do it with a frame (still inserted
within the header/footer view). I put stuff, including fields, all over my
documents using headers and footers.
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"tinhorn" wrote in message
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Thanks, but y'see, using the header/footer bar, I can specify left or
right
justification, but not outside. Outside is an option only when using the
Insert feature. I'm formatting books and the first page of a chapter
could
be either odd or even numbered.

Unless you know where to find the "outside" option from the header/footer
toolbar...

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

Using the header/footer toolbar is the recommended way to insert page
numbers in Word (although InsertPage Numbers seems to easy!).

Since you have "Different odd and even" enabled, you can position the
page number differently on odd and even pages (corresponding to the
"Outside" option in the Page Numbers dialog box).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"tinhorn" wrote in message
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Yes, those were the first things I checked, too.

I got numbers to appear by deleting them all, then inserting them
from the
header/footer toolbar instead of Insert, Page Number function, but I
had to
center them - no "outside" option.

I usually make the first page of a chapter odd by default (using an "Odd
page" section break), but if not, I center the page number in the First Page
Footer, then put the page number in the header for the remaining pages, left
(outside) on verso pages (Even Page Header) and right (outside) on recto
pages (Odd Page Header).

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"tinhorn" wrote in message
...
Thanks, but y'see, using the header/footer bar, I can specify left or
right
justification, but not outside. Outside is an option only when using the
Insert feature. I'm formatting books and the first page of a chapter
could
be either odd or even numbered.

Unless you know where to find the "outside" option from the header/footer
toolbar...

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

Using the header/footer toolbar is the recommended way to insert page
numbers in Word (although InsertPage Numbers seems to easy!).

Since you have "Different odd and even" enabled, you can position the
page number differently on odd and even pages (corresponding to the
"Outside" option in the Page Numbers dialog box).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"tinhorn" wrote in message
news
Yes, those were the first things I checked, too.

I got numbers to appear by deleting them all, then inserting them
from the
header/footer toolbar instead of Insert, Page Number function, but I
had to
center them - no "outside" option.

You can align the text of odd page footers (or headers) to the right
and the text of even page footers to the left. To position page
numbers outside the margins, use a negative indent (a negative right
indent for right-aligned text and a negative left indent for
left-aligned text). If your footers (headers) also contain other data,
you may have to use tab stops instead of paragraph alignment.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"tinhorn" wrote in message
...
Thanks, but y'see, using the header/footer bar, I can specify left
or right
justification, but not outside. Outside is an option only when
using the
Insert feature. I'm formatting books and the first page of a
chapter could
be either odd or even numbered.

Unless you know where to find the "outside" option from the
header/footer
toolbar...

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

Using the header/footer toolbar is the recommended way to insert
page
numbers in Word (although InsertPage Numbers seems to easy!).

Since you have "Different odd and even" enabled, you can position
the
page number differently on odd and even pages (corresponding to
the
"Outside" option in the Page Numbers dialog box).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"tinhorn" wrote in message
news
Yes, those were the first things I checked, too.

I got numbers to appear by deleting them all, then inserting
them
from the
header/footer toolbar instead of Insert, Page Number function,
but I
had to
center them - no "outside" option.

Ah, if you're using Insert | Page Numbers in a complex document, then
prepare for problems. Much better in such cases to use Insert Page Number on
the Header and Footer toolbar.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"tinhorn" wrote in message
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Yes, those were the first things I checked, too.

I got numbers to appear by deleting them all, then inserting them from the
header/footer toolbar instead of Insert, Page Number function, but I had
to
center them - no "outside" option.