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I just wrote ` because the actual keystrokes required are
different depending on your keyboard layout. On my Swedish
keyboard, I will have to type Shift+´ to accomplish `.


And how would you do an overscore?


If the OP had asked about that (the subject is misleading), I would have
referred her to http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm.

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"Twayne" wrote in message
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In ,
Stefan Blom typed:
I just wrote ` because the actual keystrokes required are
different depending on your keyboard layout. On my Swedish
keyboard, I will have to type Shift+´ to accomplish `.


And how would you do an overscore?


If the OP had asked about that (the subject is misleading), I would have
referred her to http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm.

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"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
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Looking at the order in which you posted your four messages in this
thread, it's clear that you didn't read the messages you replied to.

On Mar 7, 5:02 pm, "Twayne" wrote:
,
Peter T. Daniels typed:

? Is that on a French keyboard? On "English (US)," it's
Ctrl-`, e (same for each vowel with grave accent, cap or
l.c.).


On Mar 5, 11:47 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
First type ` and then type the letter; the result will be:
.


But that's not an overscore, which is what the OP aksed. Unfortunately
there
is no overscore on many keyboards so to use the keyboard, the language
first
has to be worked out. It's like no one can READ these days.

Twayne



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"deb" wrote in message


news


how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in
Beef Jardinie`re-



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_______________
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
Looking at the order in which you posted your four messages in this
thread, it's clear that you didn't read the messages you replied to.

On Mar 7, 5:02 pm, "Twayne" wrote:
,
Peter T. Daniels typed:

? Is that on a French keyboard? On "English (US)," it's
Ctrl-`, e (same for each vowel with grave accent, cap or
l.c.).


On Mar 5, 11:47 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
First type ` and then type the letter; the result will be:
.


But that's not an overscore, which is what the OP aksed. Unfortunately
there
is no overscore on many keyboards so to use the keyboard, the language
first
has to be worked out. It's like no one can READ these days.

Twayne



--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"deb" wrote in message


news


how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in
Beef Jardinie`re-



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In ,
Peter T. Daniels typed:
Looking at the order in which you posted your four messages
in this thread, it's clear that you didn't read the
messages you replied to.


Hmm, you appear to be right! Dunno how I screwed that up! Got the wrong
thread somehow!
Thanks! And apologies to all for the screwup.

HTH,

Twayne`

On Mar 7, 5:02 pm, "Twayne" wrote:
,
Peter T. Daniels typed:

? Is that on a French keyboard? On "English (US)," it's
Ctrl-`, e (same for each vowel with grave accent, cap or
l.c.).


On Mar 5, 11:47 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
First type ` and then type the letter; the result will
be: .


But that's not an overscore, which is what the OP aksed.
Unfortunately there is no overscore on many keyboards so
to use the keyboard, the language first has to be worked
out. It's like no one can READ these days.

Twayne



--
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Microsoft Word MVP


"deb" wrote in message


news


how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in
Beef Jardinie`re-




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In ,
Peter T. Daniels typed:
Looking at the order in which you posted your four messages
in this thread, it's clear that you didn't read the
messages you replied to.


Hmm, you appear to be right! Dunno how I screwed that up! Got the wrong
thread somehow!
Thanks! And apologies to all for the screwup.

HTH,

Twayne`

On Mar 7, 5:02 pm, "Twayne" wrote:
,
Peter T. Daniels typed:

? Is that on a French keyboard? On "English (US)," it's
Ctrl-`, e (same for each vowel with grave accent, cap or
l.c.).


On Mar 5, 11:47 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
First type ` and then type the letter; the result will
be: .


But that's not an overscore, which is what the OP aksed.
Unfortunately there is no overscore on many keyboards so
to use the keyboard, the language first has to be worked
out. It's like no one can READ these days.

Twayne



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Microsoft Word MVP


"deb" wrote in message


news


how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in
Beef Jardinie`re-




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In ,
Stefan Blom typed:
"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
Stefan Blom typed:
I just wrote ` because the actual keystrokes required are
different depending on your keyboard layout. On my Swedish
keyboard, I will have to type Shift+´ to accomplish `.


And how would you do an overscore?


If the OP had asked about that (the subject is misleading),
I would have referred her to
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm.


I don't really care what you'd have done, but it's immaterial. At least I
see now how it got screwed up in my head. And Susan, if she's reading, would
be likely to respond anyway. She does have a lot of good info at hand; great
participant.

Twayne
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In ,
Stefan Blom typed:
"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
Stefan Blom typed:
I just wrote ` because the actual keystrokes required are
different depending on your keyboard layout. On my Swedish
keyboard, I will have to type Shift+´ to accomplish `.


And how would you do an overscore?


If the OP had asked about that (the subject is misleading),
I would have referred her to
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm.


I don't really care what you'd have done, but it's immaterial. At least I
see now how it got screwed up in my head. And Susan, if she's reading, would
be likely to respond anyway. She does have a lot of good info at hand; great
participant.

Twayne
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through personal experience does not become a
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"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
Stefan Blom typed:
"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
Stefan Blom typed:
I just wrote ` because the actual keystrokes required are
different depending on your keyboard layout. On my Swedish
keyboard, I will have to type Shift+´ to accomplish `.

And how would you do an overscore?


If the OP had asked about that (the subject is misleading),
I would have referred her to
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm.


I don't really care what you'd have done, but it's immaterial. At least I
see now how it got screwed up in my head. And Susan, if she's reading,
would be likely to respond anyway. She does have a lot of good info at
hand; great participant.


Well, you did ask me what I would have done, and I answered.

Fellow MVP Suzanne S. Barnhill is a great participant in these newsgroups; I
have to agree on that one.

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"Twayne" wrote in message
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In ,
Stefan Blom typed:
"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
Stefan Blom typed:
I just wrote ` because the actual keystrokes required are
different depending on your keyboard layout. On my Swedish
keyboard, I will have to type Shift+´ to accomplish `.

And how would you do an overscore?


If the OP had asked about that (the subject is misleading),
I would have referred her to
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm.


I don't really care what you'd have done, but it's immaterial. At least I
see now how it got screwed up in my head. And Susan, if she's reading,
would be likely to respond anyway. She does have a lot of good info at
hand; great participant.


Well, you did ask me what I would have done, and I answered.

Fellow MVP Suzanne S. Barnhill is a great participant in these newsgroups; I
have to agree on that one.

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The original fault was OP's (who never came back anyway), who used the
wrong term for "accent."

On Mar 8, 2:04*pm, "Twayne" wrote:
,
Peter T. Daniels typed:

Looking at the order in which you posted your four messages
in this thread, it's clear that you didn't read the
messages you replied to.


Hmm, you appear to be right! *Dunno how I screwed that up! *Got the wrong
thread somehow!
Thanks! And apologies to all for the screwup.

HTH,

Twayne`





On Mar 7, 5:02 pm, "Twayne" wrote:
,
Peter T. Daniels typed:


? Is that on a French keyboard? On "English (US)," it's
Ctrl-`, e (same for each vowel with grave accent, cap or
l.c.).


On Mar 5, 11:47 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
First type ` and then type the letter; the result will
be: .


But that's not an overscore, which is what the OP aksed.
Unfortunately there is no overscore on many keyboards so
to use the keyboard, the language first has to be worked
out. It's like no one can READ these days.


Twayne


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Microsoft Word MVP


"deb" wrote in message


news


how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in
Beef Jardinie`re-


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The original fault was OP's (who never came back anyway), who used the
wrong term for "accent."

On Mar 8, 2:04*pm, "Twayne" wrote:
,
Peter T. Daniels typed:

Looking at the order in which you posted your four messages
in this thread, it's clear that you didn't read the
messages you replied to.


Hmm, you appear to be right! *Dunno how I screwed that up! *Got the wrong
thread somehow!
Thanks! And apologies to all for the screwup.

HTH,

Twayne`





On Mar 7, 5:02 pm, "Twayne" wrote:
,
Peter T. Daniels typed:


? Is that on a French keyboard? On "English (US)," it's
Ctrl-`, e (same for each vowel with grave accent, cap or
l.c.).


On Mar 5, 11:47 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
First type ` and then type the letter; the result will
be: .


But that's not an overscore, which is what the OP aksed.
Unfortunately there is no overscore on many keyboards so
to use the keyboard, the language first has to be worked
out. It's like no one can READ these days.


Twayne


--
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Microsoft Word MVP


"deb" wrote in message


news


how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in
Beef Jardinie`re-


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Yes, this key is a mystery.

FWIW the ` key is used by Word in a programming context, for want of a
better expression - it's used by some database driver/provider versions
to quote stuff such as table names in SQL SELECT statements, e.g. if you
insert an Excel .xls worksheet using a DATABASE field, or record a
MailMerge OpenDataSource.

I don't know about the US keyboard, but the UK version typically has
three characters on it:
a. at the top is a ¬ (Unicode 0x00AC NOT SIGN) which you do get when
you shift.
b. at the bottom left is a ` (Unicode 0x0060 GRAVE ACCENT) which the
unshifted key gives you
c. at the bottom right is a character that looks like | (Unicode
0x007C VERTICAL LINE ). The only key combination that seems to get you
this is Alt-Gr+the key, but what is inserted is actually ¦ (Unicode
0x00A6 BROKEN BAR).

On the UK keyboard there is usually a key to the left of the Z key with
a backsash \ at the bottom and a ¦ (Unicode 0x00A6 BROKEN BAR) but
shift+this key actually gives you | (Unicode 0x007C VERTICAL LINE ).

Confusing when at least one of these is used for the Unix "Pipe"
character. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_bar)

Peter Jamieson

http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk

On 06/03/2010 18:16, Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
No, they are not. There is no ´ (acute accent) key per se; the ' key is
used for apostrophes/single quotes and (when shifted) double quotes, and
it is part of the setup key for letters with an acute accent. The ` key,
when shifted, gives ~. It's actually rather a mystery why this key is
present at all. I do use a tilde (so-called, though it's too low to be
an accent over a letter) instead of an en dash or round bullet sometimes
to separate items in display text, and of course it's used in URLs, but
I see no practical use of the ` at all except as part of the setup key
for letters with a grave accent.

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Yes, this key is a mystery.

FWIW the ` key is used by Word in a programming context, for want of a
better expression - it's used by some database driver/provider versions
to quote stuff such as table names in SQL SELECT statements, e.g. if you
insert an Excel .xls worksheet using a DATABASE field, or record a
MailMerge OpenDataSource.

I don't know about the US keyboard, but the UK version typically has
three characters on it:
a. at the top is a ¬ (Unicode 0x00AC NOT SIGN) which you do get when
you shift.
b. at the bottom left is a ` (Unicode 0x0060 GRAVE ACCENT) which the
unshifted key gives you
c. at the bottom right is a character that looks like | (Unicode
0x007C VERTICAL LINE ). The only key combination that seems to get you
this is Alt-Gr+the key, but what is inserted is actually ¦ (Unicode
0x00A6 BROKEN BAR).

On the UK keyboard there is usually a key to the left of the Z key with
a backsash \ at the bottom and a ¦ (Unicode 0x00A6 BROKEN BAR) but
shift+this key actually gives you | (Unicode 0x007C VERTICAL LINE ).

Confusing when at least one of these is used for the Unix "Pipe"
character. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_bar)

Peter Jamieson

http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk

On 06/03/2010 18:16, Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
No, they are not. There is no ´ (acute accent) key per se; the ' key is
used for apostrophes/single quotes and (when shifted) double quotes, and
it is part of the setup key for letters with an acute accent. The ` key,
when shifted, gives ~. It's actually rather a mystery why this key is
present at all. I do use a tilde (so-called, though it's too low to be
an accent over a letter) instead of an en dash or round bullet sometimes
to separate items in display text, and of course it's used in URLs, but
I see no practical use of the ` at all except as part of the setup key
for letters with a grave accent.

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Now that you mention it, the character that I use for "pipe" (VERTICAL LINE)
is in fact represented on my (US) keyboard by the BROKEN BAR, though I
hadn't noticed this before. But US keyboards don't have the Alt-Gr key, so
we don't have the third alternative you mention. Our ` character is
unshifted; when shifted it produces ~.

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"Peter Jamieson" wrote in message
...
Yes, this key is a mystery.

FWIW the ` key is used by Word in a programming context, for want of a
better expression - it's used by some database driver/provider versions to
quote stuff such as table names in SQL SELECT statements, e.g. if you
insert an Excel .xls worksheet using a DATABASE field, or record a
MailMerge OpenDataSource.

I don't know about the US keyboard, but the UK version typically has three
characters on it:
a. at the top is a ¬ (Unicode 0x00AC NOT SIGN) which you do get when you
shift.
b. at the bottom left is a ` (Unicode 0x0060 GRAVE ACCENT) which the
unshifted key gives you
c. at the bottom right is a character that looks like | (Unicode 0x007C
VERTICAL LINE ). The only key combination that seems to get you this is
Alt-Gr+the key, but what is inserted is actually ¦ (Unicode 0x00A6 BROKEN
BAR).

On the UK keyboard there is usually a key to the left of the Z key with a
backsash \ at the bottom and a ¦ (Unicode 0x00A6 BROKEN BAR) but
shift+this key actually gives you | (Unicode 0x007C VERTICAL LINE ).

Confusing when at least one of these is used for the Unix "Pipe"
character. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_bar)

Peter Jamieson

http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk

On 06/03/2010 18:16, Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
No, they are not. There is no ´ (acute accent) key per se; the ' key is
used for apostrophes/single quotes and (when shifted) double quotes, and
it is part of the setup key for letters with an acute accent. The ` key,
when shifted, gives ~. It's actually rather a mystery why this key is
present at all. I do use a tilde (so-called, though it's too low to be
an accent over a letter) instead of an en dash or round bullet sometimes
to separate items in display text, and of course it's used in URLs, but
I see no practical use of the ` at all except as part of the setup key
for letters with a grave accent.




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Now that you mention it, the character that I use for "pipe" (VERTICAL LINE)
is in fact represented on my (US) keyboard by the BROKEN BAR, though I
hadn't noticed this before. But US keyboards don't have the Alt-Gr key, so
we don't have the third alternative you mention. Our ` character is
unshifted; when shifted it produces ~.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Peter Jamieson" wrote in message
...
Yes, this key is a mystery.

FWIW the ` key is used by Word in a programming context, for want of a
better expression - it's used by some database driver/provider versions to
quote stuff such as table names in SQL SELECT statements, e.g. if you
insert an Excel .xls worksheet using a DATABASE field, or record a
MailMerge OpenDataSource.

I don't know about the US keyboard, but the UK version typically has three
characters on it:
a. at the top is a ¬ (Unicode 0x00AC NOT SIGN) which you do get when you
shift.
b. at the bottom left is a ` (Unicode 0x0060 GRAVE ACCENT) which the
unshifted key gives you
c. at the bottom right is a character that looks like | (Unicode 0x007C
VERTICAL LINE ). The only key combination that seems to get you this is
Alt-Gr+the key, but what is inserted is actually ¦ (Unicode 0x00A6 BROKEN
BAR).

On the UK keyboard there is usually a key to the left of the Z key with a
backsash \ at the bottom and a ¦ (Unicode 0x00A6 BROKEN BAR) but
shift+this key actually gives you | (Unicode 0x007C VERTICAL LINE ).

Confusing when at least one of these is used for the Unix "Pipe"
character. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_bar)

Peter Jamieson

http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk

On 06/03/2010 18:16, Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
No, they are not. There is no ´ (acute accent) key per se; the ' key is
used for apostrophes/single quotes and (when shifted) double quotes, and
it is part of the setup key for letters with an acute accent. The ` key,
when shifted, gives ~. It's actually rather a mystery why this key is
present at all. I do use a tilde (so-called, though it's too low to be
an accent over a letter) instead of an en dash or round bullet sometimes
to separate items in display text, and of course it's used in URLs, but
I see no practical use of the ` at all except as part of the setup key
for letters with a grave accent.


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