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Headers, Footers and Sections
Does there exist a clear, concise and accurate explanation of how headers and
footer interact with sections? Word insists on putting headers and footers where I don't want. I have a pretty standard document consisting of a title page, a table of contents and the main body of the document. I want no headers and footers on the title page, and then different headers and footers in the TOC and main body. Every time I do it, I have to fiddle around for at least an hour to get it right. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to Word's behavior. If there is, I haven't discovered it. |
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Headers, Footers and Sections
There is rhyme and reason, although it is, at first, a little mysterious.
By default, each section inherits the headers and footers from the preceding section. So unless you do something to change it, the entire document, regardless of the number of sections, has just one set of headers and footers. Changing a header or footer anywhere in the document will change it for the entire document. In any section after the first you can clear the 'Same as previous' button on the Headers and Footers toolbar. That 'breaks the chain' between that section and the preceding one. If you have a document with ten sections and you got to section 5 and clear 'Same as previous' for the header. You now have two headers: one for sections 1 to 4, and one for sections 5 onwards. If you go to section 10 and change the header, it will affect all of sections 5 to 10. It can can very confusing if you have continuous section breaks: if there are several on one page, the headers and footers for the intermediate sections might not be displayed at all; then you insert some new material, the intermediate section now falls across a page boundary, and you're suddenly back to a header you thought you deleted two weeks ago. A further complication: On File Page setup you can choose different headers and footers for the first page of the section, and/or for odd/even pages. You can make this setting different for each section. In your case you have two sections: title page and TOC; different header for the first page (ie no header or footer on the title page); then section 2 for the body: no different first page, not same as previous. "Cycling Dude" wrote in message ... Does there exist a clear, concise and accurate explanation of how headers and footer interact with sections? Word insists on putting headers and footers where I don't want. I have a pretty standard document consisting of a title page, a table of contents and the main body of the document. I want no headers and footers on the title page, and then different headers and footers in the TOC and main body. Every time I do it, I have to fiddle around for at least an hour to get it right. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to Word's behavior. If there is, I haven't discovered it. |
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Perhaps my problem is with the location of the sections. In my example, it
seems to me that the obvious location for a section break is at the beginning of the TOC. However, if I place the cursor at the beginning of the TOC and insert a section break, Word locates the section break at the end of the previous page. What isn't clear whether the previous page is part of section 1 or section 2. "Jezebel" wrote: There is rhyme and reason, although it is, at first, a little mysterious. By default, each section inherits the headers and footers from the preceding section. So unless you do something to change it, the entire document, regardless of the number of sections, has just one set of headers and footers. Changing a header or footer anywhere in the document will change it for the entire document. In any section after the first you can clear the 'Same as previous' button on the Headers and Footers toolbar. That 'breaks the chain' between that section and the preceding one. If you have a document with ten sections and you got to section 5 and clear 'Same as previous' for the header. You now have two headers: one for sections 1 to 4, and one for sections 5 onwards. If you go to section 10 and change the header, it will affect all of sections 5 to 10. It can can very confusing if you have continuous section breaks: if there are several on one page, the headers and footers for the intermediate sections might not be displayed at all; then you insert some new material, the intermediate section now falls across a page boundary, and you're suddenly back to a header you thought you deleted two weeks ago. A further complication: On File Page setup you can choose different headers and footers for the first page of the section, and/or for odd/even pages. You can make this setting different for each section. In your case you have two sections: title page and TOC; different header for the first page (ie no header or footer on the title page); then section 2 for the body: no different first page, not same as previous. "Cycling Dude" wrote in message ... Does there exist a clear, concise and accurate explanation of how headers and footer interact with sections? Word insists on putting headers and footers where I don't want. I have a pretty standard document consisting of a title page, a table of contents and the main body of the document. I want no headers and footers on the title page, and then different headers and footers in the TOC and main body. Every time I do it, I have to fiddle around for at least an hour to get it right. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to Word's behavior. If there is, I haven't discovered it. |
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Headers, Footers and Sections
The section break is a sort of Janus. If it says "Continuous" or "Next Page"
or whatever, it is defining the section start type for the section that follows, but it also holds the formatting for the section that precedes it. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Cycling Dude" wrote in message ... Perhaps my problem is with the location of the sections. In my example, it seems to me that the obvious location for a section break is at the beginning of the TOC. However, if I place the cursor at the beginning of the TOC and insert a section break, Word locates the section break at the end of the previous page. What isn't clear whether the previous page is part of section 1 or section 2. "Jezebel" wrote: There is rhyme and reason, although it is, at first, a little mysterious. By default, each section inherits the headers and footers from the preceding section. So unless you do something to change it, the entire document, regardless of the number of sections, has just one set of headers and footers. Changing a header or footer anywhere in the document will change it for the entire document. In any section after the first you can clear the 'Same as previous' button on the Headers and Footers toolbar. That 'breaks the chain' between that section and the preceding one. If you have a document with ten sections and you got to section 5 and clear 'Same as previous' for the header. You now have two headers: one for sections 1 to 4, and one for sections 5 onwards. If you go to section 10 and change the header, it will affect all of sections 5 to 10. It can can very confusing if you have continuous section breaks: if there are several on one page, the headers and footers for the intermediate sections might not be displayed at all; then you insert some new material, the intermediate section now falls across a page boundary, and you're suddenly back to a header you thought you deleted two weeks ago. A further complication: On File Page setup you can choose different headers and footers for the first page of the section, and/or for odd/even pages. You can make this setting different for each section. In your case you have two sections: title page and TOC; different header for the first page (ie no header or footer on the title page); then section 2 for the body: no different first page, not same as previous. "Cycling Dude" wrote in message ... Does there exist a clear, concise and accurate explanation of how headers and footer interact with sections? Word insists on putting headers and footers where I don't want. I have a pretty standard document consisting of a title page, a table of contents and the main body of the document. I want no headers and footers on the title page, and then different headers and footers in the TOC and main body. Every time I do it, I have to fiddle around for at least an hour to get it right. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to Word's behavior. If there is, I haven't discovered it. |
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Headers, Footers and Sections
See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...rontMatter.htm and
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Cycling Dude" wrote in message ... Does there exist a clear, concise and accurate explanation of how headers and footer interact with sections? Word insists on putting headers and footers where I don't want. I have a pretty standard document consisting of a title page, a table of contents and the main body of the document. I want no headers and footers on the title page, and then different headers and footers in the TOC and main body. Every time I do it, I have to fiddle around for at least an hour to get it right. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to Word's behavior. If there is, I haven't discovered it. |
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