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I am using word 2003. I have created a book and it has over 50 pages in it. I
have used landscape and have made them into columns. I want to number each
page (two per page because of columns) and then I want to print so that I
then fold each page and then use a bookbinding machine which will glue each
page at the fold.

I'm not even sure where to start - please help
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See http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...etPrinting.htm
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"cobymom" wrote:

I am using word 2003. I have created a book and it has over 50 pages in it. I
have used landscape and have made them into columns. I want to number each
page (two per page because of columns) and then I want to print so that I
then fold each page and then use a bookbinding machine which will glue each
page at the fold.

I'm not even sure where to start - please help

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Not the answer for what the OP describes.

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See http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...etPrinting.htm
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"cobymom" wrote:

I am using word 2003. I have created a book and it has over 50 pages in
it. I
have used landscape and have made them into columns. I want to number
each
page (two per page because of columns) and then I want to print so that I
then fold each page and then use a bookbinding machine which will glue
each
page at the fold.

I'm not even sure where to start - please help




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For this application only (not for booklet printing generally), see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/Print2Pages.htm

A much better solution for Word 2000 and above is to use "2 pages per sheet"
in the Page Setup dialog (not the one in the Print dialog) instead of
columns. Then you can add page numbers just as you normally would because
Word treats each half of each physical page as a logical page. Since you
already have your text formatted into columns, you should not experience
much change in layout if you enable "2 pages per sheet" (it's in the
"Multiple pages" dropdown on the Margins tab of Page Setup) and format the
content back to a single column.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cobymom" wrote in message
...
I am using word 2003. I have created a book and it has over 50 pages in it.
I
have used landscape and have made them into columns. I want to number each
page (two per page because of columns) and then I want to print so that I
then fold each page and then use a bookbinding machine which will glue
each
page at the fold.

I'm not even sure where to start - please help




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I pressed no for "did it help" but it did technically - What I've done is go
into 2 pages per sheet and scaled it to 8.5 x 11. Technically fantastic BUT -
I took out the colums and had my document as portrait but when I go to print,
I have to print page 4 and 1 on the first side, then when I re-insert it, I
have to enter 2 and three, and so on, so that when I fold my sheet and glue
it in, the pages run the way I need them to. So technically - you helped me
find a solution, but do you know if there is a way to sent the document to
print without having to enter all that information. It's okay with a wee
document, but a larger will give me grief. I'm not sure if there is a way of
getting it figured out in some kind of print setup that I can go to every
time I want to do this.

I appreciate your help very much and at least now I can accomplish the task
- just looking for a quicker way to accomplish it now.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

For this application only (not for booklet printing generally), see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/Print2Pages.htm

A much better solution for Word 2000 and above is to use "2 pages per sheet"
in the Page Setup dialog (not the one in the Print dialog) instead of
columns. Then you can add page numbers just as you normally would because
Word treats each half of each physical page as a logical page. Since you
already have your text formatted into columns, you should not experience
much change in layout if you enable "2 pages per sheet" (it's in the
"Multiple pages" dropdown on the Margins tab of Page Setup) and format the
content back to a single column.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cobymom" wrote in message
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I am using word 2003. I have created a book and it has over 50 pages in it.
I
have used landscape and have made them into columns. I want to number each
page (two per page because of columns) and then I want to print so that I
then fold each page and then use a bookbinding machine which will glue
each
page at the fold.

I'm not even sure where to start - please help







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If you're creating a booklet, you should use the "Book fold" option instead.
What you described was folding and glueing. What I envisioned was that you
would be folding pages 1 and 2 (on a single sheet) back to back and glueing
the free edges into the binding. Then pages 3 and 4, and so on.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cobymom" wrote in message
...
I pressed no for "did it help" but it did technically - What I've done is
go
into 2 pages per sheet and scaled it to 8.5 x 11. Technically fantastic
BUT -
I took out the colums and had my document as portrait but when I go to
print,
I have to print page 4 and 1 on the first side, then when I re-insert it,
I
have to enter 2 and three, and so on, so that when I fold my sheet and
glue
it in, the pages run the way I need them to. So technically - you helped
me
find a solution, but do you know if there is a way to sent the document to
print without having to enter all that information. It's okay with a wee
document, but a larger will give me grief. I'm not sure if there is a way
of
getting it figured out in some kind of print setup that I can go to every
time I want to do this.

I appreciate your help very much and at least now I can accomplish the
task
- just looking for a quicker way to accomplish it now.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

For this application only (not for booklet printing generally), see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/Print2Pages.htm

A much better solution for Word 2000 and above is to use "2 pages per
sheet"
in the Page Setup dialog (not the one in the Print dialog) instead of
columns. Then you can add page numbers just as you normally would because
Word treats each half of each physical page as a logical page. Since you
already have your text formatted into columns, you should not experience
much change in layout if you enable "2 pages per sheet" (it's in the
"Multiple pages" dropdown on the Margins tab of Page Setup) and format
the
content back to a single column.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cobymom" wrote in message
...
I am using word 2003. I have created a book and it has over 50 pages in
it.
I
have used landscape and have made them into columns. I want to number
each
page (two per page because of columns) and then I want to print so that
I
then fold each page and then use a bookbinding machine which will glue
each
page at the fold.

I'm not even sure where to start - please help








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It's a book, with way too many pages for the book fold. I need to have
several sheets, all folded, but side by side, not inside one another. I guess
I don't do things easily do I? So the first page, when folded, has page one,
open it to see pages 2 and 3, then the back has page 4. The next page will
have page 5, open it to see pages 6 and 7, close it to see page 8 and so on.
Technically, if I had 40 numbered pages in my book, with the pages
landscaped, I would have a total of ten sheets, with two pages on either side
of the sheet. These 10 pages will be arranged side by side, not inside one
another, and the folded parts will be glued into the book binding cover. It's
likely that it can't be done other than the way I'm doing it as described in
last post. I guess I was hoping there was yet a shortcut to lessen the time
of it all.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you're creating a booklet, you should use the "Book fold" option instead.
What you described was folding and glueing. What I envisioned was that you
would be folding pages 1 and 2 (on a single sheet) back to back and glueing
the free edges into the binding. Then pages 3 and 4, and so on.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cobymom" wrote in message
...
I pressed no for "did it help" but it did technically - What I've done is
go
into 2 pages per sheet and scaled it to 8.5 x 11. Technically fantastic
BUT -
I took out the colums and had my document as portrait but when I go to
print,
I have to print page 4 and 1 on the first side, then when I re-insert it,
I
have to enter 2 and three, and so on, so that when I fold my sheet and
glue
it in, the pages run the way I need them to. So technically - you helped
me
find a solution, but do you know if there is a way to sent the document to
print without having to enter all that information. It's okay with a wee
document, but a larger will give me grief. I'm not sure if there is a way
of
getting it figured out in some kind of print setup that I can go to every
time I want to do this.

I appreciate your help very much and at least now I can accomplish the
task
- just looking for a quicker way to accomplish it now.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

For this application only (not for booklet printing generally), see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/Print2Pages.htm

A much better solution for Word 2000 and above is to use "2 pages per
sheet"
in the Page Setup dialog (not the one in the Print dialog) instead of
columns. Then you can add page numbers just as you normally would because
Word treats each half of each physical page as a logical page. Since you
already have your text formatted into columns, you should not experience
much change in layout if you enable "2 pages per sheet" (it's in the
"Multiple pages" dropdown on the Margins tab of Page Setup) and format
the
content back to a single column.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cobymom" wrote in message
...
I am using word 2003. I have created a book and it has over 50 pages in
it.
I
have used landscape and have made them into columns. I want to number
each
page (two per page because of columns) and then I want to print so that
I
then fold each page and then use a bookbinding machine which will glue
each
page at the fold.

I'm not even sure where to start - please help









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You could still use "Book fold" with "booklets" of four pages to get the
effect you want. You can create "signatures" of any size up to 40 pages.
Alternatively, you can use "2 pages per sheet" and print in the desired
order by entering the pages in the Pages box in the Print dialog. But for
your purpose, I think the four-page signatures would be the way to go.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cobymom" wrote in message
...
It's a book, with way too many pages for the book fold. I need to have
several sheets, all folded, but side by side, not inside one another. I
guess
I don't do things easily do I? So the first page, when folded, has page
one,
open it to see pages 2 and 3, then the back has page 4. The next page will
have page 5, open it to see pages 6 and 7, close it to see page 8 and so
on.
Technically, if I had 40 numbered pages in my book, with the pages
landscaped, I would have a total of ten sheets, with two pages on either
side
of the sheet. These 10 pages will be arranged side by side, not inside one
another, and the folded parts will be glued into the book binding cover.
It's
likely that it can't be done other than the way I'm doing it as described
in
last post. I guess I was hoping there was yet a shortcut to lessen the
time
of it all.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you're creating a booklet, you should use the "Book fold" option
instead.
What you described was folding and glueing. What I envisioned was that
you
would be folding pages 1 and 2 (on a single sheet) back to back and
glueing
the free edges into the binding. Then pages 3 and 4, and so on.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cobymom" wrote in message
...
I pressed no for "did it help" but it did technically - What I've done
is
go
into 2 pages per sheet and scaled it to 8.5 x 11. Technically fantastic
BUT -
I took out the colums and had my document as portrait but when I go to
print,
I have to print page 4 and 1 on the first side, then when I re-insert
it,
I
have to enter 2 and three, and so on, so that when I fold my sheet and
glue
it in, the pages run the way I need them to. So technically - you
helped
me
find a solution, but do you know if there is a way to sent the document
to
print without having to enter all that information. It's okay with a
wee
document, but a larger will give me grief. I'm not sure if there is a
way
of
getting it figured out in some kind of print setup that I can go to
every
time I want to do this.

I appreciate your help very much and at least now I can accomplish the
task
- just looking for a quicker way to accomplish it now.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

For this application only (not for booklet printing generally), see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/Print2Pages.htm

A much better solution for Word 2000 and above is to use "2 pages per
sheet"
in the Page Setup dialog (not the one in the Print dialog) instead of
columns. Then you can add page numbers just as you normally would
because
Word treats each half of each physical page as a logical page. Since
you
already have your text formatted into columns, you should not
experience
much change in layout if you enable "2 pages per sheet" (it's in the
"Multiple pages" dropdown on the Margins tab of Page Setup) and format
the
content back to a single column.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cobymom" wrote in message
...
I am using word 2003. I have created a book and it has over 50 pages
in
it.
I
have used landscape and have made them into columns. I want to
number
each
page (two per page because of columns) and then I want to print so
that
I
then fold each page and then use a bookbinding machine which will
glue
each
page at the fold.

I'm not even sure where to start - please help












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I'm not sure what you mean by "signatures"

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You could still use "Book fold" with "booklets" of four pages to get the
effect you want. You can create "signatures" of any size up to 40 pages.
Alternatively, you can use "2 pages per sheet" and print in the desired
order by entering the pages in the Pages box in the Print dialog. But for
your purpose, I think the four-page signatures would be the way to go.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cobymom" wrote in message
...
It's a book, with way too many pages for the book fold. I need to have
several sheets, all folded, but side by side, not inside one another. I
guess
I don't do things easily do I? So the first page, when folded, has page
one,
open it to see pages 2 and 3, then the back has page 4. The next page will
have page 5, open it to see pages 6 and 7, close it to see page 8 and so
on.
Technically, if I had 40 numbered pages in my book, with the pages
landscaped, I would have a total of ten sheets, with two pages on either
side
of the sheet. These 10 pages will be arranged side by side, not inside one
another, and the folded parts will be glued into the book binding cover.
It's
likely that it can't be done other than the way I'm doing it as described
in
last post. I guess I was hoping there was yet a shortcut to lessen the
time
of it all.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you're creating a booklet, you should use the "Book fold" option
instead.
What you described was folding and glueing. What I envisioned was that
you
would be folding pages 1 and 2 (on a single sheet) back to back and
glueing
the free edges into the binding. Then pages 3 and 4, and so on.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cobymom" wrote in message
...
I pressed no for "did it help" but it did technically - What I've done
is
go
into 2 pages per sheet and scaled it to 8.5 x 11. Technically fantastic
BUT -
I took out the colums and had my document as portrait but when I go to
print,
I have to print page 4 and 1 on the first side, then when I re-insert
it,
I
have to enter 2 and three, and so on, so that when I fold my sheet and
glue
it in, the pages run the way I need them to. So technically - you
helped
me
find a solution, but do you know if there is a way to sent the document
to
print without having to enter all that information. It's okay with a
wee
document, but a larger will give me grief. I'm not sure if there is a
way
of
getting it figured out in some kind of print setup that I can go to
every
time I want to do this.

I appreciate your help very much and at least now I can accomplish the
task
- just looking for a quicker way to accomplish it now.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

For this application only (not for booklet printing generally), see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/Print2Pages.htm

A much better solution for Word 2000 and above is to use "2 pages per
sheet"
in the Page Setup dialog (not the one in the Print dialog) instead of
columns. Then you can add page numbers just as you normally would
because
Word treats each half of each physical page as a logical page. Since
you
already have your text formatted into columns, you should not
experience
much change in layout if you enable "2 pages per sheet" (it's in the
"Multiple pages" dropdown on the Margins tab of Page Setup) and format
the
content back to a single column.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cobymom" wrote in message
...
I am using word 2003. I have created a book and it has over 50 pages
in
it.
I
have used landscape and have made them into columns. I want to
number
each
page (two per page because of columns) and then I want to print so
that
I
then fold each page and then use a bookbinding machine which will
glue
each
page at the fold.

I'm not even sure where to start - please help













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Word calls them "booklets." Once you have selected "Book fold," you have an
additional choice of "Sheets per booklet." If you choose 4 pages, my
assumption is that Word would turn your document into "booklets" of 4 pages
each. I admit I have not tried this however, so I can't attest to whether my
assumption is correct.

In the bookmaking trade, these are called "signatures" and are created
somewhat differently: signatures of 16 pages are created by printing 8 pages
on each side of a large sheet of paper, which is then folded down to the
size of a single page and the edges trimmed to create a "booklet" that is
either glued or sewn into a binding. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookbinding,
http://online-judge.uva.es/p/v9/999.html, or other results you can get by
googling for "book signatures."

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cobymom" wrote in message
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I'm not sure what you mean by "signatures"

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You could still use "Book fold" with "booklets" of four pages to get the
effect you want. You can create "signatures" of any size up to 40 pages.
Alternatively, you can use "2 pages per sheet" and print in the desired
order by entering the pages in the Pages box in the Print dialog. But for
your purpose, I think the four-page signatures would be the way to go.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cobymom" wrote in message
...
It's a book, with way too many pages for the book fold. I need to have
several sheets, all folded, but side by side, not inside one another. I
guess
I don't do things easily do I? So the first page, when folded, has page
one,
open it to see pages 2 and 3, then the back has page 4. The next page
will
have page 5, open it to see pages 6 and 7, close it to see page 8 and
so
on.
Technically, if I had 40 numbered pages in my book, with the pages
landscaped, I would have a total of ten sheets, with two pages on
either
side
of the sheet. These 10 pages will be arranged side by side, not inside
one
another, and the folded parts will be glued into the book binding
cover.
It's
likely that it can't be done other than the way I'm doing it as
described
in
last post. I guess I was hoping there was yet a shortcut to lessen the
time
of it all.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you're creating a booklet, you should use the "Book fold" option
instead.
What you described was folding and glueing. What I envisioned was that
you
would be folding pages 1 and 2 (on a single sheet) back to back and
glueing
the free edges into the binding. Then pages 3 and 4, and so on.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cobymom" wrote in message
...
I pressed no for "did it help" but it did technically - What I've
done
is
go
into 2 pages per sheet and scaled it to 8.5 x 11. Technically
fantastic
BUT -
I took out the colums and had my document as portrait but when I go
to
print,
I have to print page 4 and 1 on the first side, then when I
re-insert
it,
I
have to enter 2 and three, and so on, so that when I fold my sheet
and
glue
it in, the pages run the way I need them to. So technically - you
helped
me
find a solution, but do you know if there is a way to sent the
document
to
print without having to enter all that information. It's okay with a
wee
document, but a larger will give me grief. I'm not sure if there is
a
way
of
getting it figured out in some kind of print setup that I can go to
every
time I want to do this.

I appreciate your help very much and at least now I can accomplish
the
task
- just looking for a quicker way to accomplish it now.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

For this application only (not for booklet printing generally), see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/Print2Pages.htm

A much better solution for Word 2000 and above is to use "2 pages
per
sheet"
in the Page Setup dialog (not the one in the Print dialog) instead
of
columns. Then you can add page numbers just as you normally would
because
Word treats each half of each physical page as a logical page.
Since
you
already have your text formatted into columns, you should not
experience
much change in layout if you enable "2 pages per sheet" (it's in
the
"Multiple pages" dropdown on the Margins tab of Page Setup) and
format
the
content back to a single column.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cobymom" wrote in message
...
I am using word 2003. I have created a book and it has over 50
pages
in
it.
I
have used landscape and have made them into columns. I want to
number
each
page (two per page because of columns) and then I want to print
so
that
I
then fold each page and then use a bookbinding machine which will
glue
each
page at the fold.

I'm not even sure where to start - please help

















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