[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I can't tell whether you're describing what you want or what you get. You
also haven't described whether you're binding this on the short or long
edge, which makes a difference. And in fact I told you wrong the first time:
if you're binding on the short edge, then that's the one you want to flip
on. You'll then have the tops of both sides back to back. The same type of
flip is required for a single-page landscape document such as a brochure.

If you're binding on the long edge (whether the document is to be looked at
in portrait or landscape orientation), you want to flip on the long edge.
The conventional arrangement of such documents is to have the top to the
left (portrait) or (obviously) top in landscape view (like a calendar) so
that readers need rotate the document only one direction to read broadside
tables or other landscape pages.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:52:46 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

This is what you want, isn't it? To have the top of all pages on the left?

As I said, I want to print a landscape document on both sides, so flipping
along the long axis shows the second side the right way up.

Another way of looking at it: if you hold the document up to the light in
landscape format, the reverse side is upside down. Any clearer?

[Nigel Molesworth[_2_]]

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:08:30 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I can't tell whether you're describing what you want or what you get. You
also haven't described whether you're binding this on the short or long
edge, which makes a difference.

I'm a bit confused by talk of "binding", there is no binding. I guess you
could think of it in those terms though...

Imagine a landscape document, binding at the top. When I flip a page up, I
want the reverse side to be the right way up.

I can do it in Acrobat Reader, but for some reason Word always prints the
second page for left edge binding.

[Nigel Molesworth[_2_]]

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:05:38 +0000, Nigel Molesworth
wrote:

Imagine a landscape document, binding at the top. When I flip a page up, I
want the reverse side to be the right way up.

Look at these photos of what I get, they are not what I want:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j5...ier/misc-w.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j5...er/misc-p1.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j5...er/misc-p2.jpg

[Nigel Molesworth[_2_]]

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:05:38 +0000, Nigel Molesworth
wrote:

Imagine a landscape document, binding at the top. When I flip a page up, I
want the reverse side to be the right way up.

Look at these photos of what I get, they are not what I want:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j5...ier/misc-w.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j5...er/misc-p1.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j5...er/misc-p2.jpg

[PeterMcC]

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:08:30 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I can't tell whether you're describing what you want or what you get. You
also haven't described whether you're binding this on the short or long
edge, which makes a difference.

I'm a bit confused by talk of "binding", there is no binding. I guess you
could think of it in those terms though...

Imagine a landscape document, binding at the top. When I flip a page up, I
want the reverse side to be the right way up.

I can do it in Acrobat Reader, but for some reason Word always prints the
second page for left edge binding.



I've just had an experiment with a doc in landscape orientation and it seems
to do what you want.

Print Odd pages

Flip the stack of printed pages over along its longer axis and replace in
sheet feed

Print Even pages

Apologies if I've misunderstood your problem.


--
PeterMcC

If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
inappropriate or offensive in any way,
please ignore it and accept my apologies.

[Nigel Molesworth[_2_]]

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:42:02 -0000, "PeterMcC" wrote:

Flip the stack

I've got a duplexer, I don't want to have to flip the stack every time.

[Graham Mayor]

If your printer accepts PCL commands, you may be able to use a PRINT field.
A PRINT field is simply a type of field that allows you to send instructions
directly to the printer.

The value for Portrait setting: { PRINT 27&l0O" }
The value for Landscape { PRINT 27"&l1O" }

Put the relevant codes at the top of the pages.
Whether this will work for you in conjunction with duplex mode I cannot say.

Incidentally you can use ALT+PrtScreen to copy the active Window to the
clipboard (or better still use SnagIt - there is a trial).
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Nigel Molesworth wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:42:02 -0000, "PeterMcC"
wrote:

Flip the stack

I've got a duplexer, I don't want to have to flip the stack every
time.

[PeterMcC]

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:42:02 -0000, "PeterMcC"
wrote:

Flip the stack

I've got a duplexer, I don't want to have to flip the stack every time.



Me too - but if it gets the job done...

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.


--
PeterMcC

If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
inappropriate or offensive in any way,
please ignore it and accept my apologies.

[Nigel Molesworth[_2_]]

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:05:38 +0000, Nigel Molesworth
wrote:

Imagine a landscape document, binding at the top. When I flip a page up, I
want the reverse side to be the right way up.

Look at these photos of what I get, they are not what I want:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/nigelmercier/misc-w.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/nigelmercier/misc-p1.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/nigelmercier/misc-p2.jpg

I've tried to send this twice now, perhaps it's the URLs that are causing it
to be rejected, or maybe the number of lines. Time for some Lorem Ipsum ...

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Donec turpis
lacus, rutrum id, fermentum id, sodales et, ipsum. Maecenas ligula. Donec
hendrerit, felis ut euismod aliquam, felis diam scelerisque nulla, id
interdum nulla augue non odio.

[Nigel Molesworth[_2_]]

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:05:38 +0000, Nigel Molesworth
wrote:

Imagine a landscape document, binding at the top. When I flip a page up, I
want the reverse side to be the right way up.

Look at these photos of what I get, they are not what I want:

Word: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/nigelmercier/misc-w.jpg
Page 1: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/nigelmercier/misc-p1.jpg
Page 2: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/nigelmercier/misc-p2.jpg

[Nigel Molesworth[_2_]]

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:36:00 +0000, Nigel Molesworth
wrote:

Look at these photos of what I get, they are not what I want:

Or should I say, Page 2 is the wrong way up.

[Nigel Molesworth[_2_]]

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:05:38 +0000, Nigel Molesworth
wrote:

I can do it in Acrobat Reader, but for some reason Word always prints the
second page for left edge binding.

Really weird! I've installed a PostScript Driver for the printer, all OK
using that one. Looks like a bug in the HP software.

[Doug Robbins - Word MVP]

For our Xerox printers, with a Landscape oriented Word document, selecting
Properties in the File Print dialog and then on the Paper Output tab, select
Flip on long edge in the 2 Sided Print drop down and setting the Image
Orientation to Landscape, the output is as you require.

Almost certainly, YMMV with HP and their crappy drivers.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:05:38 +0000, Nigel Molesworth
wrote:

I can do it in Acrobat Reader, but for some reason Word always prints the
second page for left edge binding.

Really weird! I've installed a PostScript Driver for the printer, all OK
using that one. Looks like a bug in the HP software.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Okay, so what you have is like a calendar. And this means that you are
flipping on the long edge, just the same as if you had a landscape section
in a portrait document and wanted the top to the left on each page. This is
what you would ordinarily get by default if you choose to flip on the long
edge, BUT there are some printers that perversely flip in the opposite
direction, and AFAIK there is no way around this except perhaps to get a
different driver for the printer. IIRC, the first inkjet I had output
landscape pages rotated one way relative to the portrait pages, and when I
updated the driver, it rotated them the other way; this was an issue with
single-sided printing, but it does illustrate that a different driver might
give different results.

FWIW, I don't know what you mean by "left-edge binding." I assume you mean
"short-edge binding," which will alternate left and right on the "inside"
(gutter). From your illustrations, however, it certainly appears that you
have all the printer settings correct. You might experiment with the
"Options for duplex printing" on the Print tab of Tools | Options, though I
believe they have more to do with which side is printed first.

From your later posts, however, it seems you've achieved what you were
trying for.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:08:30 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I can't tell whether you're describing what you want or what you get. You
also haven't described whether you're binding this on the short or long
edge, which makes a difference.

I'm a bit confused by talk of "binding", there is no binding. I guess you
could think of it in those terms though...

Imagine a landscape document, binding at the top. When I flip a page up, I
want the reverse side to be the right way up.

I can do it in Acrobat Reader, but for some reason Word always prints the
second page for left edge binding.

[Nigel Molesworth[_2_]]

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:14:43 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

You might experiment with the
"Options for duplex printing" on the Print tab of Tools | Options, though I
believe they have more to do with which side is printed first.

Thanks for trying to help Suzanne. Out of interest, where is this menu?

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

On the Print tab of Tools | Options (unless you're using Word 2007).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:14:43 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

You might experiment with the
"Options for duplex printing" on the Print tab of Tools | Options, though
I
believe they have more to do with which side is printed first.

Thanks for trying to help Suzanne. Out of interest, where is this menu?

[Nigel Molesworth[_2_]]

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:14:36 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

On the Print tab of Tools | Options (unless you're using Word 2007).

That's why I can't find it then

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

In Word 2007, Office Button | Word Options | Advanced: Print on front/back
of sheet for duplex printing. The unhelpful illustrations have been
eliminated, which makes the options even harder to find.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:14:36 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

On the Print tab of Tools | Options (unless you're using Word 2007).

That's why I can't find it then