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End of document paragraph symbol
How do you remove just the LAST paragraph symbol in a document? All the
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You can't. It's "where" most of the information about the document's
format is stored. What do you actually want to accomplish? On Sep 21, 3:33*pm, TestThis4x4 wrote: How do you remove just the LAST paragraph symbol in a document? All the others can stay but the last one needs to be removed. |
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On Sep 21, 3:33*pm, TestThis4x4
wrote: How do you remove just the LAST paragraph symbol in a document? All the others can stay but the last one needs to be removed. I don't think the correct answer is "you can't". It is more like, if you do then the last paragraph container just recreates itself. Mr. Daniels is correct. The last paragraph container stores much of the formatting information about the document. The following example macros should illustrate. Open a new blank document (lets call it demo doc) and type ten paragarphs as shown below. Use the page setup dialog to change the default margins to say (.5, .5, .5 and .5) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Carefully select and copy everything but the last paragraph mark. Open a new document and paste the contents. The new document page setup (margins) should be unchanged. Close the new document. Carefully select and copy everything in demo doc including the last paragraph mark. Open a new document and paste the contents. The new document page setup (margins) should change to match those set in demo doc. This is because that last paragraph mark stores page setup information about a document. Now with demo doc select and delete the last paragraph or run the following code: Sub Demo() ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Delete End Sub The result is: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 The last paragraph was deleted (no code error) but the page setup doesn't change. You can extend this demo with the following code: Sub ScratchMacro() Do While ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Count 0 If Len(ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Text) 1 Then MsgBox ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Text ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Delete Else If MsgBox("Deleting last paragraph which will automatically recreate. Do you want to continue?", vbQuestion + vbYesNo, "End of the Road") = vbYes Then ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Delete Else Exit Sub End If End If Loop End Sub It will run indefinately or until tire of proving it otherwise as each time the final paragraph is deleted it will recreate itself. |
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Wow! I didn't realize it was so involved! I'm taking a course on computer
integration and my professor's noted in my homework assignment: "There are to be no additional paragraph symbols at the end of the document even if the file that is downloaded has them. There are also to be no additional blank pages at the end of the document. Do not use multiple spaces or tabs to align text. I suggest students have show on so they can see all the hidden symbols (tabs, spaces, paragraphs, page breaks)." So I got credit marked off my assignment because I had a paragraph symbol at the end of my document. Do I understand the professor correctly? "Greg Maxey" wrote: On Sep 21, 3:33 pm, TestThis4x4 wrote: How do you remove just the LAST paragraph symbol in a document? All the others can stay but the last one needs to be removed. I don't think the correct answer is "you can't". It is more like, if you do then the last paragraph container just recreates itself. Mr. Daniels is correct. The last paragraph container stores much of the formatting information about the document. The following example macros should illustrate. Open a new blank document (lets call it demo doc) and type ten paragarphs as shown below. Use the page setup dialog to change the default margins to say (.5, .5, .5 and .5) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Carefully select and copy everything but the last paragraph mark. Open a new document and paste the contents. The new document page setup (margins) should be unchanged. Close the new document. Carefully select and copy everything in demo doc including the last paragraph mark. Open a new document and paste the contents. The new document page setup (margins) should change to match those set in demo doc. This is because that last paragraph mark stores page setup information about a document. Now with demo doc select and delete the last paragraph or run the following code: Sub Demo() ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Delete End Sub The result is: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 The last paragraph was deleted (no code error) but the page setup doesn't change. You can extend this demo with the following code: Sub ScratchMacro() Do While ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Count 0 If Len(ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Text) 1 Then MsgBox ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Text ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Delete Else If MsgBox("Deleting last paragraph which will automatically recreate. Do you want to continue?", vbQuestion + vbYesNo, "End of the Road") = vbYes Then ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Delete Else Exit Sub End If End If Loop End Sub It will run indefinately or until tire of proving it otherwise as each time the final paragraph is deleted it will recreate itself. |
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Have you tried asking your professor that question? You've paid for his
instruction - get your (or your parents') money's worth. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "TestThis4x4" wrote in message ... Wow! I didn't realize it was so involved! I'm taking a course on computer integration and my professor's noted in my homework assignment: "There are to be no additional paragraph symbols at the end of the document even if the file that is downloaded has them. There are also to be no additional blank pages at the end of the document. Do not use multiple spaces or tabs to align text. I suggest students have show on so they can see all the hidden symbols (tabs, spaces, paragraphs, page breaks)." So I got credit marked off my assignment because I had a paragraph symbol at the end of my document. Do I understand the professor correctly? "Greg Maxey" wrote: On Sep 21, 3:33 pm, TestThis4x4 wrote: How do you remove just the LAST paragraph symbol in a document? All the others can stay but the last one needs to be removed. I don't think the correct answer is "you can't". It is more like, if you do then the last paragraph container just recreates itself. Mr. Daniels is correct. The last paragraph container stores much of the formatting information about the document. The following example macros should illustrate. Open a new blank document (lets call it demo doc) and type ten paragarphs as shown below. Use the page setup dialog to change the default margins to say (.5, .5, .5 and .5) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Carefully select and copy everything but the last paragraph mark. Open a new document and paste the contents. The new document page setup (margins) should be unchanged. Close the new document. Carefully select and copy everything in demo doc including the last paragraph mark. Open a new document and paste the contents. The new document page setup (margins) should change to match those set in demo doc. This is because that last paragraph mark stores page setup information about a document. Now with demo doc select and delete the last paragraph or run the following code: Sub Demo() ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Delete End Sub The result is: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 The last paragraph was deleted (no code error) but the page setup doesn't change. You can extend this demo with the following code: Sub ScratchMacro() Do While ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Count 0 If Len(ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Text) 1 Then MsgBox ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Text ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Delete Else If MsgBox("Deleting last paragraph which will automatically recreate. Do you want to continue?", vbQuestion + vbYesNo, "End of the Road") = vbYes Then ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Delete Else Exit Sub End If End If Loop End Sub It will run indefinately or until tire of proving it otherwise as each time the final paragraph is deleted it will recreate itself. |
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Thanks for your wise answer. I have asked for her assistance and awaiting her
response but decided to do some research on my own. I figured I'd "get my money's worth" (yes, MY money's worth. I'm paying for college out of pocket and I'm 29 yrs old, thank you for assuming otherwise) by checking out a MICROSOFT website. I appreciate everyone's assistance except for Ms. Paules who apparently assumes I'm an idiot. "JoAnn Paules" wrote: Have you tried asking your professor that question? You've paid for his instruction - get your (or your parents') money's worth. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" " |
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Ouch... (but then she does edit a 'Dummies' book. ;-P)
BTW, this is only a MSFT-hosted site. Very few who post here actually work for MSFT (and those who do have [MSFT] after their name). But I still think you were wise to make good use of your time and take the initiative to try to find the answer on your own - and asking the "experts" is a perfectly acceptable method for finding an answer. However, I do think you could have achieved the stated objective of having no blank paragraphs at the end of the document - assuming that you're allowed to have at least 1 paragraph of content in your document. The final paragraph mark can be located at the end of the last line of text; it needn't be a paragraph on its own to do its "job". -- Cheers! Gordon Bentley-Mix Word MVP "TestThis4x4" wrote in message ... Thanks for your wise answer. I have asked for her assistance and awaiting her response but decided to do some research on my own. I figured I'd "get my money's worth" (yes, MY money's worth. I'm paying for college out of and I'm 29 yrs old, thank you for assuming otherwise) by checking out a MICROSOFT website. I appreciate everyone's assistance except for Ms. Paules who apparently assumes I'm an idiot. "JoAnn Paules" wrote: Have you tried asking your professor that question? You've paid for his instruction - get your (or your parents') money's worth. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" " |
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I can suggest where the confusion lies, but you'll have to look at
your own document to see whether I'm correct. If there is a paragraph mark at the end of the last paragraph of visible text, and another paragraph mark after that, then the professor would be correct in saying that there is an "additional" paragraph mark. That is, at the end of the document you should see This is the last paragraph of visible text.¶ but not This is the last paragraph of visible text.¶ ¶ In the latter case, if you put the cursor after that last period and press Delete, you can delete the first of the two marks but not the second -- any more than one press of Delete will be ignored. So if your document looks like the first example, you should not have lost any credit; if it looks like the second example, the professor is correct. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:53:01 -0700, TestThis4x4 wrote: Wow! I didn't realize it was so involved! I'm taking a course on computer integration and my professor's noted in my homework assignment: "There are to be no additional paragraph symbols at the end of the document even if the file that is downloaded has them. There are also to be no additional blank pages at the end of the document. Do not use multiple spaces or tabs to align text. I suggest students have show on so they can see all the hidden symbols (tabs, spaces, paragraphs, page breaks)." So I got credit marked off my assignment because I had a paragraph symbol at the end of my document. Do I understand the professor correctly? |
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Do I understand the professor correctly?
If you understand what the little demo has shown you and you are still asking that question then I would have to say no. If there is one and only one paragraph symbol at the end of your document or one and only one paragraph symbol following your final character of text then you and your professor should get along nicely with your assignment scores improving. Good luck. -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly...who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who have never known neither victory nor defeat." - TR "TestThis4x4" wrote in message ... Wow! I didn't realize it was so involved! I'm taking a course on computer integration and my professor's noted in my homework assignment: "There are to be no additional paragraph symbols at the end of the document even if the file that is downloaded has them. There are also to be no additional blank pages at the end of the document. Do not use multiple spaces or tabs to align text. I suggest students have show on so they can see all the hidden symbols (tabs, spaces, paragraphs, page breaks)." So I got credit marked off my assignment because I had a paragraph symbol at the end of my document. Do I understand the professor correctly? "Greg Maxey" wrote: On Sep 21, 3:33 pm, TestThis4x4 wrote: How do you remove just the LAST paragraph symbol in a document? All the others can stay but the last one needs to be removed. I don't think the correct answer is "you can't". It is more like, if you do then the last paragraph container just recreates itself. Mr. Daniels is correct. The last paragraph container stores much of the formatting information about the document. The following example macros should illustrate. Open a new blank document (lets call it demo doc) and type ten paragarphs as shown below. Use the page setup dialog to change the default margins to say (.5, .5, .5 and .5) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Carefully select and copy everything but the last paragraph mark. Open a new document and paste the contents. The new document page setup (margins) should be unchanged. Close the new document. Carefully select and copy everything in demo doc including the last paragraph mark. Open a new document and paste the contents. The new document page setup (margins) should change to match those set in demo doc. This is because that last paragraph mark stores page setup information about a document. Now with demo doc select and delete the last paragraph or run the following code: Sub Demo() ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Delete End Sub The result is: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 The last paragraph was deleted (no code error) but the page setup doesn't change. You can extend this demo with the following code: Sub ScratchMacro() Do While ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Count 0 If Len(ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Text) 1 Then MsgBox ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Text ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Delete Else If MsgBox("Deleting last paragraph which will automatically recreate. Do you want to continue?", vbQuestion + vbYesNo, "End of the Road") = vbYes Then ActiveDocument.Paragraphs.Last.Range.Delete Else Exit Sub End If End If Loop End Sub It will run indefinately or until tire of proving it otherwise as each time the final paragraph is deleted it will recreate itself. |
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Hi TestThis4x4,
I appreciate everyone's assistance except for Ms. Paules who apparently assumes I'm an idiot. I think you're being a bit precious here! The most logical place to start is with the person who graded your work - not with people who havn't seen it. Clearly your prof. thinks you've got one or more unnecessary paragraph marks in the document and there was nothing in your previous posts to suggest you'd sought clarification from the prof. Please also bear in mind that, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, no-one here is likely to be inclined to calling your prof. an idiot for downgrading your work. -- Cheers macropod [Microsoft MVP - Word] "TestThis4x4" wrote in message ... Thanks for your wise answer. I have asked for her assistance and awaiting her response but decided to do some research on my own. I figured I'd "get my money's worth" (yes, MY money's worth. I'm paying for college out of pocket and I'm 29 yrs old, thank you for assuming otherwise) by checking out a MICROSOFT website. I appreciate everyone's assistance except for Ms. Paules who apparently assumes I'm an idiot. "JoAnn Paules" wrote: Have you tried asking your professor that question? You've paid for his instruction - get your (or your parents') money's worth. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" " |
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No - I was not assuming anything. I merely asked if you'd talked to the
instructor. Many times people are afraid to do that and prefer to ask their questions anonymously. My point is that you pay for the instruction - get what you've paid for. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "TestThis4x4" wrote in message ... Thanks for your wise answer. I have asked for her assistance and awaiting her response but decided to do some research on my own. I figured I'd "get my money's worth" (yes, MY money's worth. I'm paying for college out of and I'm 29 yrs old, thank you for assuming otherwise) by checking out a MICROSOFT website. I appreciate everyone's assistance except for Ms. Paules who apparently assumes I'm an idiot. "JoAnn Paules" wrote: Have you tried asking your professor that question? You've paid for his instruction - get your (or your parents') money's worth. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" " |
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