[Karen]

I'm having a difficult time setting up columns in Word 2003.
This is the layout:
I have 2 pages - I'm starting on page 2 first. Page one has one header and
page two has a different header.

So, on page 2, I have a header and then I have to layout 2 columns below
that header. Each column is a table. I want to be able to have different row
heights in each column. How can this be done? I inserted 2 columns and when
I try to change the row height in the column to the left, it changes in the
column to the right also.
HELP!

[CyberTaz]

Hi Karen -

I'm sure the help you want is available, but we need to clear up a few
misconceptions & get a clearer picture of your intended result first. Please
see the interjections below:

"Karen" wrote in message
...
I'm having a difficult time setting up columns in Word 2003.
This is the layout:

The key word "layout" is part of why you're having a difficult time. Word
isn't a layout program, it's a word processing program.

I have 2 pages - I'm starting on page 2 first.

This is an example of what I mean - word processing software deal with a
matter of text flow from beginning to end. If you try to start at the end or
in the middle you're working "against the grain" as the expresion goes - or
contrary to the nature of the program.

Page one has one header and
page two has a different header.

Are we actually talking about *Headers* (as in ViewHeader/Footer) or are we
talking about *headings*?... They're 2 separate & distinct components of a
document.

So, on page 2, I have a header and then I have to layout 2 columns below
that header. Each column is a table. I want to be able to have different
row
heights in each column. How can this be done?

As you're finding out, it can't be done... at least not easily. As long as
both columns are part of the same table each cell in any row of that table
will be the same height. IOW, height is a property of a row, not of an
individual cell. (That isn't _entirely_ true now that we're "blessed" with
the Tables & Borders tools as well as merging & splitting cells, but those
things can get you into a serious bind.)

I inserted 2 columns and when
I try to change the row height in the column to the left, it changes in
the
column to the right also.

Correct, as explained above. You may be able to use 2 tables of one column
each side-by-side - it depends on some of the other information requested.

HELP!

Please post back as noted at the beginning of this reply & we'll try to do
exactly that. Keep in mind that you may want to consider using a different
program, but that's dependent on the details you're able to furnish. Also,
how long do you expect the finished doc to be?
--
Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

[Karen]

Thank you for offering to help - Sorry about the poor explanation.
To answer your questions and comment on your statements.

The key word "layout" is part of why you're having a difficult time. Word
isn't a layout program, it's a word processing program.
I was just using "layout" as a general term. I really need to be using
Quark or InDesign for this. I do not have these programs at work.

Are we actually talking about *Headers* (as in ViewHeader/Footer) or are we
talking about *headings*?
I'm talking about headers. I have one header on the first page and another
header on the second.

"As long as both columns are part of the same table each cell in any row of
that table will be the same height."
I actually want two separate tables - just side by side. Isn't there a
break I can use that with separate the tables so the row heights can differ?

There's actually a good reason I started the second page first. I need to
finish this document ASAP. Someone hasn't finalized the changes to page one
yet. Therefore, I thought that I would start on page two to expedite matters.

Thank you again, Karen






"CyberTaz" wrote:

Hi Karen -

I'm sure the help you want is available, but we need to clear up a few
misconceptions & get a clearer picture of your intended result first. Please
see the interjections below:

"Karen" wrote in message
...
I'm having a difficult time setting up columns in Word 2003.
This is the layout:

The key word "layout" is part of why you're having a difficult time. Word
isn't a layout program, it's a word processing program.

I have 2 pages - I'm starting on page 2 first.

This is an example of what I mean - word processing software deal with a
matter of text flow from beginning to end. If you try to start at the end or
in the middle you're working "against the grain" as the expresion goes - or
contrary to the nature of the program.

Page one has one header and
page two has a different header.

Are we actually talking about *Headers* (as in ViewHeader/Footer) or are we
talking about *headings*?... They're 2 separate & distinct components of a
document.

So, on page 2, I have a header and then I have to layout 2 columns below
that header. Each column is a table. I want to be able to have different
row
heights in each column. How can this be done?

As you're finding out, it can't be done... at least not easily. As long as
both columns are part of the same table each cell in any row of that table
will be the same height. IOW, height is a property of a row, not of an
individual cell. (That isn't _entirely_ true now that we're "blessed" with
the Tables & Borders tools as well as merging & splitting cells, but those
things can get you into a serious bind.)

I inserted 2 columns and when
I try to change the row height in the column to the left, it changes in
the
column to the right also.

Correct, as explained above. You may be able to use 2 tables of one column
each side-by-side - it depends on some of the other information requested.

HELP!

Please post back as noted at the beginning of this reply & we'll try to do
exactly that. Keep in mind that you may want to consider using a different
program, but that's dependent on the details you're able to furnish. Also,
how long do you expect the finished doc to be?
--
Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

[CyberTaz]

Thanks for a better understanding of the situation.

Does your employer have MS Publisher? Not as sophisticated as QX or Indy,
but would facilitate this type of task... especially if your're already
familiar with page layout concepts. It's a rather easy program to learn
quickly.

If you have to proceed in Word, IMO, you'd be best to create 2 separate
1-column tables, adjust their respective widths & position them
side-by-side. That will provide the independent row height you're looking
for.

You can Split a table between rows, but not between columns. If you've
already created the 2-column table & it has content, you can select & cut
one of the columns. Then paste into a different para (so it doesn't rejoin
the original table) and arrange from there. I would think you'd be OK from
there as long as the content you eventually add to page 1 doesn't flow
beyond that page and the tables don't run on to yet a 3rd.
--
HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

"Karen" wrote in message
...
Thank you for offering to help - Sorry about the poor explanation.
To answer your questions and comment on your statements.

The key word "layout" is part of why you're having a difficult time. Word
isn't a layout program, it's a word processing program.
I was just using "layout" as a general term. I really need to be using
Quark or InDesign for this. I do not have these programs at work.

Are we actually talking about *Headers* (as in ViewHeader/Footer) or are
we
talking about *headings*?
I'm talking about headers. I have one header on the first page and
another
header on the second.

"As long as both columns are part of the same table each cell in any row
of
that table will be the same height."
I actually want two separate tables - just side by side. Isn't there a
break I can use that with separate the tables so the row heights can
differ?

There's actually a good reason I started the second page first. I need to
finish this document ASAP. Someone hasn't finalized the changes to page
one
yet. Therefore, I thought that I would start on page two to expedite
matters.

Thank you again, Karen






"CyberTaz" wrote:

Hi Karen -

I'm sure the help you want is available, but we need to clear up a few
misconceptions & get a clearer picture of your intended result first.
Please
see the interjections below:

"Karen" wrote in message
...
I'm having a difficult time setting up columns in Word 2003.
This is the layout:

The key word "layout" is part of why you're having a difficult time. Word
isn't a layout program, it's a word processing program.

I have 2 pages - I'm starting on page 2 first.

This is an example of what I mean - word processing software deal with a
matter of text flow from beginning to end. If you try to start at the end
or
in the middle you're working "against the grain" as the expresion goes -
or
contrary to the nature of the program.

Page one has one header and
page two has a different header.

Are we actually talking about *Headers* (as in ViewHeader/Footer) or are
we
talking about *headings*?... They're 2 separate & distinct components of
a
document.

So, on page 2, I have a header and then I have to layout 2 columns
below
that header. Each column is a table. I want to be able to have
different
row
heights in each column. How can this be done?

As you're finding out, it can't be done... at least not easily. As long
as
both columns are part of the same table each cell in any row of that
table
will be the same height. IOW, height is a property of a row, not of an
individual cell. (That isn't _entirely_ true now that we're "blessed"
with
the Tables & Borders tools as well as merging & splitting cells, but
those
things can get you into a serious bind.)

I inserted 2 columns and when
I try to change the row height in the column to the left, it changes in
the
column to the right also.

Correct, as explained above. You may be able to use 2 tables of one
column
each side-by-side - it depends on some of the other information
requested.

HELP!

Please post back as noted at the beginning of this reply & we'll try to
do
exactly that. Keep in mind that you may want to consider using a
different
program, but that's dependent on the details you're able to furnish.
Also,
how long do you expect the finished doc to be?
--
Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

[Karen]

Thank you again for your help - You are VERY helpful.

What do you mean by:
Then paste into a different para (so it doesn't rejoin the original table)

Karen

"CyberTaz" wrote:

Thanks for a better understanding of the situation.

Does your employer have MS Publisher? Not as sophisticated as QX or Indy,
but would facilitate this type of task... especially if your're already
familiar with page layout concepts. It's a rather easy program to learn
quickly.

If you have to proceed in Word, IMO, you'd be best to create 2 separate
1-column tables, adjust their respective widths & position them
side-by-side. That will provide the independent row height you're looking
for.

You can Split a table between rows, but not between columns. If you've
already created the 2-column table & it has content, you can select & cut
one of the columns. Then paste into a different para (so it doesn't rejoin
the original table) and arrange from there. I would think you'd be OK from
there as long as the content you eventually add to page 1 doesn't flow
beyond that page and the tables don't run on to yet a 3rd.
--
HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

"Karen" wrote in message
...
Thank you for offering to help - Sorry about the poor explanation.
To answer your questions and comment on your statements.

The key word "layout" is part of why you're having a difficult time. Word
isn't a layout program, it's a word processing program.
I was just using "layout" as a general term. I really need to be using
Quark or InDesign for this. I do not have these programs at work.

Are we actually talking about *Headers* (as in ViewHeader/Footer) or are
we
talking about *headings*?
I'm talking about headers. I have one header on the first page and
another
header on the second.

"As long as both columns are part of the same table each cell in any row
of
that table will be the same height."
I actually want two separate tables - just side by side. Isn't there a
break I can use that with separate the tables so the row heights can
differ?

There's actually a good reason I started the second page first. I need to
finish this document ASAP. Someone hasn't finalized the changes to page
one
yet. Therefore, I thought that I would start on page two to expedite
matters.

Thank you again, Karen






"CyberTaz" wrote:

Hi Karen -

I'm sure the help you want is available, but we need to clear up a few
misconceptions & get a clearer picture of your intended result first.
Please
see the interjections below:

"Karen" wrote in message
...
I'm having a difficult time setting up columns in Word 2003.
This is the layout:

The key word "layout" is part of why you're having a difficult time. Word
isn't a layout program, it's a word processing program.

I have 2 pages - I'm starting on page 2 first.

This is an example of what I mean - word processing software deal with a
matter of text flow from beginning to end. If you try to start at the end
or
in the middle you're working "against the grain" as the expresion goes -
or
contrary to the nature of the program.

Page one has one header and
page two has a different header.

Are we actually talking about *Headers* (as in ViewHeader/Footer) or are
we
talking about *headings*?... They're 2 separate & distinct components of
a
document.

So, on page 2, I have a header and then I have to layout 2 columns
below
that header. Each column is a table. I want to be able to have
different
row
heights in each column. How can this be done?

As you're finding out, it can't be done... at least not easily. As long
as
both columns are part of the same table each cell in any row of that
table
will be the same height. IOW, height is a property of a row, not of an
individual cell. (That isn't _entirely_ true now that we're "blessed"
with
the Tables & Borders tools as well as merging & splitting cells, but
those
things can get you into a serious bind.)

I inserted 2 columns and when
I try to change the row height in the column to the left, it changes in
the
column to the right also.

Correct, as explained above. You may be able to use 2 tables of one
column
each side-by-side - it depends on some of the other information
requested.

HELP!

Please post back as noted at the beginning of this reply & we'll try to
do
exactly that. Keep in mind that you may want to consider using a
different
program, but that's dependent on the details you're able to furnish.
Also,
how long do you expect the finished doc to be?
--
Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

[CyberTaz]

I simply meant to paste the cut column in a different area of the document,
then move it to where it needs to go. If you try to paste it directly next
to the other they may rejoin as a unified 2-column table again - defeating
the whole purpose of cutting in the first place :-)

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 2/21/07 4:55 PM, in article
, "Karen"
wrote:

Thank you again for your help - You are VERY helpful.

What do you mean by:
Then paste into a different para (so it doesn't rejoin the original table)

Karen

"CyberTaz" wrote:

Thanks for a better understanding of the situation.

Does your employer have MS Publisher? Not as sophisticated as QX or Indy,
but would facilitate this type of task... especially if your're already
familiar with page layout concepts. It's a rather easy program to learn
quickly.

If you have to proceed in Word, IMO, you'd be best to create 2 separate
1-column tables, adjust their respective widths & position them
side-by-side. That will provide the independent row height you're looking
for.

You can Split a table between rows, but not between columns. If you've
already created the 2-column table & it has content, you can select & cut
one of the columns. Then paste into a different para (so it doesn't rejoin
the original table) and arrange from there. I would think you'd be OK from
there as long as the content you eventually add to page 1 doesn't flow
beyond that page and the tables don't run on to yet a 3rd.
--
HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

"Karen" wrote in message
...
Thank you for offering to help - Sorry about the poor explanation.
To answer your questions and comment on your statements.

The key word "layout" is part of why you're having a difficult time. Word
isn't a layout program, it's a word processing program.
I was just using "layout" as a general term. I really need to be using
Quark or InDesign for this. I do not have these programs at work.

Are we actually talking about *Headers* (as in ViewHeader/Footer) or are
we
talking about *headings*?
I'm talking about headers. I have one header on the first page and
another
header on the second.

"As long as both columns are part of the same table each cell in any row
of
that table will be the same height."
I actually want two separate tables - just side by side. Isn't there a
break I can use that with separate the tables so the row heights can
differ?

There's actually a good reason I started the second page first. I need to
finish this document ASAP. Someone hasn't finalized the changes to page
one
yet. Therefore, I thought that I would start on page two to expedite
matters.

Thank you again, Karen






"CyberTaz" wrote:

Hi Karen -

I'm sure the help you want is available, but we need to clear up a few
misconceptions & get a clearer picture of your intended result first.
Please
see the interjections below:

"Karen" wrote in message
...
I'm having a difficult time setting up columns in Word 2003.
This is the layout:

The key word "layout" is part of why you're having a difficult time. Word
isn't a layout program, it's a word processing program.

I have 2 pages - I'm starting on page 2 first.

This is an example of what I mean - word processing software deal with a
matter of text flow from beginning to end. If you try to start at the end
or
in the middle you're working "against the grain" as the expresion goes -
or
contrary to the nature of the program.

Page one has one header and
page two has a different header.

Are we actually talking about *Headers* (as in ViewHeader/Footer) or are
we
talking about *headings*?... They're 2 separate & distinct components of
a
document.

So, on page 2, I have a header and then I have to layout 2 columns
below
that header. Each column is a table. I want to be able to have
different
row
heights in each column. How can this be done?

As you're finding out, it can't be done... at least not easily. As long
as
both columns are part of the same table each cell in any row of that
table
will be the same height. IOW, height is a property of a row, not of an
individual cell. (That isn't _entirely_ true now that we're "blessed"
with
the Tables & Borders tools as well as merging & splitting cells, but
those
things can get you into a serious bind.)

I inserted 2 columns and when
I try to change the row height in the column to the left, it changes in
the
column to the right also.

Correct, as explained above. You may be able to use 2 tables of one
column
each side-by-side - it depends on some of the other information
requested.

HELP!

Please post back as noted at the beginning of this reply & we'll try to
do
exactly that. Keep in mind that you may want to consider using a
different
program, but that's dependent on the details you're able to furnish.
Also,
how long do you expect the finished doc to be?
--
Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac