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What is the minimum LCD monitor size I would need in order to display a
whole A4 page in portrait at real life size using Word? |
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Depends on your resolution.
I'd suggest you get a 36" flat panel LCD screen to be on the safe side. ;-) -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] wrote in message oups.com... What is the minimum LCD monitor size I would need in order to display a whole A4 page in portrait at real life size using Word? |
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Well, A4 is what; 8 x 11 1/2" or somethign like that" 4:3 says
16:12, or 20 inches to see the whole page at !00%, right? Width ignored since hwight is the limiting issue, and screens are measured diagonally. So, 20" of visible screen would probably require what, a 21" or greater screen. I think. Pop-- -- Going Shopping? See The North Country's (not so) Secret Shopper at www.twaynesdomain.com .. wrote in message oups.com... : What is the minimum LCD monitor size I would need in order to display a : whole A4 page in portrait at real life size using Word? : |
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If you have a monitor that can be rotated to portrait mode you can get away
with a much smaller monitor to achieve this, but frankly the 65% that a 19" monitor manages does not cause me any problems with editing. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org wrote: What is the minimum LCD monitor size I would need in order to display a whole A4 page in portrait at real life size using Word? |
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The diagonal distance for an A4 sheet is about 14". However I am unsure
about: 1. What the height to width ratio of an LCD monitor would be 2. What additional area would be needed at the margins of the A4 sheet to accomodate Word toolbars etc. 3. Whether there is anything about the physical characteristics of an LCD which might affect the calculation I suppose the answer would be if someone who actually has one could try it. Anyone other there with a 19" LCD monitor who uses Word? PopS wrote: Well, A4 is what; 8 x 11 1/2" or somethign like that" 4:3 says 16:12, or 20 inches to see the whole page at !00%, right? Width ignored since hwight is the limiting issue, and screens are measured diagonally. So, 20" of visible screen would probably require what, a 21" or greater screen. I think. Pop-- -- Going Shopping? See The North Country's (not so) Secret Shopper at www.twaynesdomain.com . wrote in message oups.com... : What is the minimum LCD monitor size I would need in order to display a : whole A4 page in portrait at real life size using Word? : |
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Are you saying that on a 19" monitor the A4 page would appear at only
65% of real size? |
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Having thought about it further, I understand what you are saying now.
I think you are saying that a 19" monitor which is physically in the landscape position (i.e. width longer than height) would display an A4 sheet in portrait at 65%. What I am seeking to establish is what is the minimum size of LCD monitor which, when physically turned to be in the portrait position, will display at 100% an A4 page (also in portrait) using Word. |
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Good point; good catch. For the OP:
Most monitors, and the only LCD I have available, are in the same ratio as a TV, which is 3:4:5, w, H, Diagonal resp. The formula for the screen size is a^2 + b^2 = c^2 (a squared + b squared = c squared-[diagonal]). For a 3, 4 the diagonal would be 3^2 + 4^2 = 9 + 16 = 25, and sq root 25 is 5: therfore, the diagonal for 3, 4 is 5. And so on. If b is the height, then a = sq root (c^2 - a^2). I just measured some A4 paper at: 8 x 11 3/4. It's still in the packaging so I'm positive it's A4. I thought it was 11 1/2, but I guess I stand corrected. So, you can work from there. And, be sure that the VISIBLE diagonal measurement matches the height you need, not the picture tube size: You lose a lot of viewing area on some monitors, not so much on others. Pop "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... : If you have a monitor that can be rotated to portrait mode you can get away : with a much smaller monitor to achieve this, but frankly the 65% that a 19" : monitor manages does not cause me any problems with editing. : : -- : : Graham Mayor - Word MVP : : My web site www.gmayor.com : Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org : : : wrote: : What is the minimum LCD monitor size I would need in order to display : a whole A4 page in portrait at real life size using Word? : : |
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Yes - if you want to display the full page. The height of an 19" monitor is
about the same as a sheet of A4, but that makes no allowances for the application borders and the toolbars. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org wrote: Are you saying that on a 19" monitor the A4 page would appear at only 65% of real size? |
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It's actually a little bigger than 65%. The discrepancy comes because at the
resolution of the (my) monitor, A4 is correctly represented at 90% whereas full page is actually 69% - you can do the maths In Portrait mode, I would suspect that you would need a 17" monitor to get in the toolbars etc. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org wrote: Having thought about it further, I understand what you are saying now. I think you are saying that a 19" monitor which is physically in the landscape position (i.e. width longer than height) would display an A4 sheet in portrait at 65%. What I am seeking to establish is what is the minimum size of LCD monitor which, when physically turned to be in the portrait position, will display at 100% an A4 page (also in portrait) using Word. |
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"Picture tube" is, if not entirely irrelevant, at least not accurate
terminology for an LCD screen, which is what the OP asked about. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "PopS" wrote in message ... Good point; good catch. For the OP: Most monitors, and the only LCD I have available, are in the same ratio as a TV, which is 3:4:5, w, H, Diagonal resp. The formula for the screen size is a^2 + b^2 = c^2 (a squared + b squared = c squared-[diagonal]). For a 3, 4 the diagonal would be 3^2 + 4^2 = 9 + 16 = 25, and sq root 25 is 5: therfore, the diagonal for 3, 4 is 5. And so on. If b is the height, then a = sq root (c^2 - a^2). I just measured some A4 paper at: 8 x 11 3/4. It's still in the packaging so I'm positive it's A4. I thought it was 11 1/2, but I guess I stand corrected. So, you can work from there. And, be sure that the VISIBLE diagonal measurement matches the height you need, not the picture tube size: You lose a lot of viewing area on some monitors, not so much on others. Pop "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... : If you have a monitor that can be rotated to portrait mode you can get away : with a much smaller monitor to achieve this, but frankly the 65% that a 19" : monitor manages does not cause me any problems with editing. : : -- : : Graham Mayor - Word MVP : : My web site www.gmayor.com : Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org : : : wrote: : What is the minimum LCD monitor size I would need in order to display : a whole A4 page in portrait at real life size using Word? : : |
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... : "Picture tube" is, if not entirely irrelevant, at least not accurate : terminology for an LCD screen, which is what the OP asked about. lol, technical strike, eh? Agreed, but --- as I said, I measured my LCD on my laptop as a 3:4:5 ratio so it's the same as a "picture tube". We could have a whoe discussion about it, but .... it's the point that matters, not the terminology, esp when you want the masses to understand the most. MO anyway. : : -- : Suzanne S. Barnhill : Microsoft MVP (Word) : Words into Type : Fairhope, Alabama USA : Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so : all may benefit. : : "PopS" wrote in message : ... : Good point; good catch. For the OP: : : Most monitors, and the only LCD I have available, are in the same : ratio as a TV, which is 3:4:5, w, H, Diagonal resp. : The formula for the screen size is : a^2 + b^2 = c^2 (a squared + b squared = c squared-[diagonal]). : : For a 3, 4 the diagonal would be 3^2 + 4^2 = 9 + 16 = 25, and : sq root 25 is 5: therfore, the diagonal for 3, 4 is 5. And so : on. : If b is the height, then a = sq root (c^2 - a^2). I just : measured some A4 paper at: 8 x 11 3/4. : It's still in the packaging so I'm positive it's A4. : I thought it was 11 1/2, but I guess I stand corrected. : So, you can work from there. And, be sure that the VISIBLE : diagonal measurement matches the height you need, not the picture : tube size: You lose a lot of viewing area on some monitors, not : so much on others. : : Pop : : : "Graham Mayor" wrote in message : ... : : If you have a monitor that can be rotated to portrait mode you : can get away : : with a much smaller monitor to achieve this, but frankly the : 65% that a 19" : : monitor manages does not cause me any problems with editing. : : : : -- : : : : Graham Mayor - Word MVP : : : : My web site www.gmayor.com : : Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org : : : : : : wrote: : : What is the minimum LCD monitor size I would need in order to : display : : a whole A4 page in portrait at real life size using Word? : : : : : : : |
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Some LCD displays are 4:3, some are 5:4 ratio I believe. Simple maths ...
At 4:3, to accommodate A4 would need a viewing area with a diagonal of 19.5 inches; at 5:4 it would need a mere 18.7 inches. I'm not sure how the viewing area of an LCD relates to nominal size but I guess you'ld be close with a 21" monitor This does assume, of course, that you are using Word's full screen mode, and your taskbar (or any other window) is not at top or bottom - which is, of course, given if you're looking for the minimum size required. It also, I think, assumes that you run your monitor at a screen resolution which matches the monitor ratio (for example 1280*1024 on a 4:3 ratio monitor elongates the image slightly. If you want to also accommodate toolbars you must say which and where and what size before anyone can have a chance. I think you should find a good dealer who will let you look at real life examples. -- Enjoy, Tony wrote in message oups.com... The diagonal distance for an A4 sheet is about 14". However I am unsure about: 1. What the height to width ratio of an LCD monitor would be 2. What additional area would be needed at the margins of the A4 sheet to accomodate Word toolbars etc. 3. Whether there is anything about the physical characteristics of an LCD which might affect the calculation I suppose the answer would be if someone who actually has one could try it. Anyone other there with a 19" LCD monitor who uses Word? PopS wrote: Well, A4 is what; 8 x 11 1/2" or somethign like that" 4:3 says 16:12, or 20 inches to see the whole page at !00%, right? Width ignored since hwight is the limiting issue, and screens are measured diagonally. So, 20" of visible screen would probably require what, a 21" or greater screen. I think. Pop-- -- Going Shopping? See The North Country's (not so) Secret Shopper at www.twaynesdomain.com . wrote in message oups.com... : What is the minimum LCD monitor size I would need in order to display a : whole A4 page in portrait at real life size using Word? : |
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"At 4:3, to accommodate A4 would need a viewing area with a diagonal of
19.5" A 4:3 rectange with diagonal of 19.5" would be 11.7" by 15.5". An A4 sheet is about 8.5" by 11.5". Why would you need a screen that large if, as you say, you are using full screen mode? Is it something to do with the resolution? |
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Your approximation of A4 (11.69") at 11.5" is slightly rougher than mine at
11.7" which just happens to be the size you have calculated from my diagonal. Of course, it's different if you have a rotatable screen. -- Enjoy, Tony wrote in message oups.com... "At 4:3, to accommodate A4 would need a viewing area with a diagonal of 19.5" A 4:3 rectange with diagonal of 19.5" would be 11.7" by 15.5". An A4 sheet is about 8.5" by 11.5". Why would you need a screen that large if, as you say, you are using full screen mode? Is it something to do with the resolution? |
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To view it in Portrait mode. Of course, if it is the type of monitor that
you can rotate, you should be able to get by with a monitor that is about 1/2^0.5 smaller than that. I wouldn't be bothering with the diagonal measure of the monitor, just measure the height and width -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP wrote in message oups.com... "At 4:3, to accommodate A4 would need a viewing area with a diagonal of 19.5" A 4:3 rectange with diagonal of 19.5" would be 11.7" by 15.5". An A4 sheet is about 8.5" by 11.5". Why would you need a screen that large if, as you say, you are using full screen mode? Is it something to do with the resolution? |
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But people are not measuring; they're going by the advertised size, which is
the diagonal. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... To view it in Portrait mode. Of course, if it is the type of monitor that you can rotate, you should be able to get by with a monitor that is about 1/2^0.5 smaller than that. I wouldn't be bothering with the diagonal measure of the monitor, just measure the height and width -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP wrote in message oups.com... "At 4:3, to accommodate A4 would need a viewing area with a diagonal of 19.5" A 4:3 rectange with diagonal of 19.5" would be 11.7" by 15.5". An A4 sheet is about 8.5" by 11.5". Why would you need a screen that large if, as you say, you are using full screen mode? Is it something to do with the resolution? |
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