[Sul@Microsoft]

Can Word XP format a doc so that there is One Space between letters (of a
word) and Two space between words ?

The quick brown fox becomes

T h e q u i c k b r o w n f o x b e c o m e s

[Herb Tyson [MVP]]

I don't have that version of Word anymore... but, have you looked at the
font spacing settings? They might give you what you want. Assuming Word
2002 works the same as Word 2003, select the text and try Format - Font -
Character Spacing tab. Set Spacing: to Expanded. By: set at 1pt appears to
provide something similar to what you describe... you might want to
experiment with larger By: values.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Sul@Microsoft" wrote in message
...
Can Word XP format a doc so that there is One Space between letters (of a
word) and Two space between words ?

The quick brown fox becomes

T h e q u i c k b r o w n f o x b e c o m e s

[sul@microsoft]

thanks for quick reply
not actually what I am looking for though

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
I don't have that version of Word anymore... but, have you looked at the
font spacing settings? They might give you what you want. Assuming Word
2002 works the same as Word 2003, select the text and try Format - Font -
Character Spacing tab. Set Spacing: to Expanded. By: set at 1pt appears to
provide something similar to what you describe... you might want to
experiment with larger By: values.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Sul@Microsoft" wrote in message
...
Can Word XP format a doc so that there is One Space between letters (of a
word) and Two space between words ?

The quick brown fox becomes

T h e q u i c k b r o w n f o x b e c o m e s

[Jay Freedman]

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:37:04 +0700, "Sul@Microsoft" wrote:

Can Word XP format a doc so that there is One Space between letters (of a
word) and Two space between words ?

The quick brown fox becomes

T h e q u i c k b r o w n f o x b e c o m e s


This has nothing to do with kerning (which Word does automatically), but it is
tracking (which Word calls "spacing"). Select the text, go to Format Font
Character Spacing and set the Spacing boxes to Expanded and some number of
points, for example 6 pt (note that in proportional fonts there is no fixed size
for "one space").

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.

[Herb Tyson [MVP]]

Well... for precisely what you're looking for, you could use Find/Replace
and actually insert spaces. However, you then lose the ability to use
spelling and some other features, since Word will no longer recognize the
words. But, since you specified "format", the only formatting control that
Word has that is similar to what you asked for is what I described. If you
experimented using various By: values, I'm surprised that you didn't find
what you wanted. I tried it here and was able to generate something that was
extremely close to what you get when manually adding spaces between letters
and words.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"sul@microsoft" wrote in message
...
thanks for quick reply
not actually what I am looking for though

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
I don't have that version of Word anymore... but, have you looked at the
font spacing settings? They might give you what you want. Assuming Word
2002 works the same as Word 2003, select the text and try Format - Font -
Character Spacing tab. Set Spacing: to Expanded. By: set at 1pt appears
to provide something similar to what you describe... you might want to
experiment with larger By: values.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Sul@Microsoft" wrote in message
...
Can Word XP format a doc so that there is One Space between letters (of
a word) and Two space between words ?

The quick brown fox becomes

T h e q u i c k b r o w n f o x b e c o m e s

[sul@microsoft]

my apologies for using the word "format"
WYSIWYG
your method works but what I require is an actual space

t1h1e11q1u1i1c1k where 1 = actual space
(reason for asking whether this exists; trying to post a message to a forum
but the forum bans the use of certain words and I figure the way to beat it
is to insert a space between letters of a word and 2 space between words)

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Well... for precisely what you're looking for, you could use Find/Replace
and actually insert spaces. However, you then lose the ability to use
spelling and some other features, since Word will no longer recognize the
words. But, since you specified "format", the only formatting control that
Word has that is similar to what you asked for is what I described. If you
experimented using various By: values, I'm surprised that you didn't find
what you wanted. I tried it here and was able to generate something that
was extremely close to what you get when manually adding spaces between
letters and words.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"sul@microsoft" wrote in message
...
thanks for quick reply
not actually what I am looking for though

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
I don't have that version of Word anymore... but, have you looked at the
font spacing settings? They might give you what you want. Assuming Word
2002 works the same as Word 2003, select the text and try Format -
Font - Character Spacing tab. Set Spacing: to Expanded. By: set at 1pt
appears to provide something similar to what you describe... you might
want to experiment with larger By: values.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Sul@Microsoft" wrote in message
...
Can Word XP format a doc so that there is One Space between letters (of
a word) and Two space between words ?

The quick brown fox becomes

T h e q u i c k b r o w n f o x b e c o m e s

[sul@microsoft]

I am been trying to understand what is kerning and tracking
your method works but this is not what I am looking for
thanks

"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:37:04 +0700, "Sul@Microsoft"
wrote:

Can Word XP format a doc so that there is One Space between letters (of a
word) and Two space between words ?

The quick brown fox becomes

T h e q u i c k b r o w n f o x b e c o m e s


This has nothing to do with kerning (which Word does automatically), but
it is
tracking (which Word calls "spacing"). Select the text, go to Format
Font
Character Spacing and set the Spacing boxes to Expanded and some number of
points, for example 6 pt (note that in proportional fonts there is no
fixed size
for "one space").

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so all may benefit.

[Terry Farrell]

Are these always the same words? If so, you can create the words with the
spaces manually once and save each as an AutoText entry. You could get
AutoCorrect to automatically change the words too, but that would be a
problem if you didn't want the words spaced at any time.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"sul@microsoft" wrote in message
...
my apologies for using the word "format"
WYSIWYG
your method works but what I require is an actual space

t1h1e11q1u1i1c1k where 1 = actual space
(reason for asking whether this exists; trying to post a message to a
forum but the forum bans the use of certain words and I figure the way to
beat it is to insert a space between letters of a word and 2 space between
words)

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Well... for precisely what you're looking for, you could use Find/Replace
and actually insert spaces. However, you then lose the ability to use
spelling and some other features, since Word will no longer recognize the
words. But, since you specified "format", the only formatting control
that Word has that is similar to what you asked for is what I described.
If you experimented using various By: values, I'm surprised that you
didn't find what you wanted. I tried it here and was able to generate
something that was extremely close to what you get when manually adding
spaces between letters and words.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"sul@microsoft" wrote in message
...
thanks for quick reply
not actually what I am looking for though

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
I don't have that version of Word anymore... but, have you looked at
the font spacing settings? They might give you what you want. Assuming
Word 2002 works the same as Word 2003, select the text and try Format -
Font - Character Spacing tab. Set Spacing: to Expanded. By: set at 1pt
appears to provide something similar to what you describe... you might
want to experiment with larger By: values.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Sul@Microsoft" wrote in message
...
Can Word XP format a doc so that there is One Space between letters
(of a word) and Two space between words ?

The quick brown fox becomes

T h e q u i c k b r o w n f o x b e c o m e s

[Terry Farrell]

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerning

and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter-spacing

for comprehensive explanations.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"sul@microsoft" wrote in message
...
I am been trying to understand what is kerning and tracking
your method works but this is not what I am looking for
thanks

"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:37:04 +0700, "Sul@Microsoft"
wrote:

Can Word XP format a doc so that there is One Space between letters (of a
word) and Two space between words ?

The quick brown fox becomes

T h e q u i c k b r o w n f o x b e c o m e s


This has nothing to do with kerning (which Word does automatically), but
it is
tracking (which Word calls "spacing"). Select the text, go to Format
Font
Character Spacing and set the Spacing boxes to Expanded and some number
of
points, for example 6 pt (note that in proportional fonts there is no
fixed size
for "one space").

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so all may benefit.

[sul@microsoft]

thanks for the tip

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
Are these always the same words? If so, you can create the words with the
spaces manually once and save each as an AutoText entry. You could get
AutoCorrect to automatically change the words too, but that would be a
problem if you didn't want the words spaced at any time.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"sul@microsoft" wrote in message
...
my apologies for using the word "format"
WYSIWYG
your method works but what I require is an actual space

t1h1e11q1u1i1c1k where 1 = actual space
(reason for asking whether this exists; trying to post a message to a
forum but the forum bans the use of certain words and I figure the way to
beat it is to insert a space between letters of a word and 2 space
between words)

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Well... for precisely what you're looking for, you could use
Find/Replace and actually insert spaces. However, you then lose the
ability to use spelling and some other features, since Word will no
longer recognize the words. But, since you specified "format", the only
formatting control that Word has that is similar to what you asked for
is what I described. If you experimented using various By: values, I'm
surprised that you didn't find what you wanted. I tried it here and was
able to generate something that was extremely close to what you get when
manually adding spaces between letters and words.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"sul@microsoft" wrote in message
...
thanks for quick reply
not actually what I am looking for though

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
I don't have that version of Word anymore... but, have you looked at
the font spacing settings? They might give you what you want.
Assuming Word 2002 works the same as Word 2003, select the text and
try Format - Font - Character Spacing tab. Set Spacing: to Expanded.
By: set at 1pt appears to provide something similar to what you
describe... you might want to experiment with larger By: values.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Sul@Microsoft" wrote in message
...
Can Word XP format a doc so that there is One Space between letters
(of a word) and Two space between words ?

The quick brown fox becomes

T h e q u i c k b r o w n f o x b e c o m e s

[Jay Freedman]

Based on the other branch of this thread, the real objective is neither kerning
nor letter spacing -- it is to insert real space characters in order to make the
words unrecognizable to forum software. You could just as well use other
characters such as underscores instead of spaces. That is not formatting, it's
text editing or modification.

As Terry suggested, if the words you want to modify are always the same ones,
use AutoText or AutoCorrect. If you want to be able to change any selected text,
use this macro, which you can assign to a shortcut or toolbar button:

Sub InsertSpaces()
Dim sIn As String, sOut As String
Dim i As Integer

sIn = Selection.Text
For i = 1 To Len(sIn)
sOut = sOut & Mid$(sIn, i, 1) & " "
Next

Selection.Text = sOut
End Sub

See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm,
http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Custom...roToHotkey.htm, and
http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Custom...oToToolbar.htm if
needed.

You might also look into using ROT13, a common way of "hiding" text in posts
(it's built into some posting software): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rot13 and
http://www.google.com/search?q=rot13.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all
may benefit.

On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:01:42 -0000, "Terry Farrell" wrote:

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerning

and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter-spacing

for comprehensive explanations.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"sul@microsoft" wrote in message
...
I am been trying to understand what is kerning and tracking
your method works but this is not what I am looking for
thanks

"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:37:04 +0700, "Sul@Microsoft"
wrote:

Can Word XP format a doc so that there is One Space between letters (of a
word) and Two space between words ?

The quick brown fox becomes

T h e q u i c k b r o w n f o x b e c o m e s


This has nothing to do with kerning (which Word does automatically), but
it is
tracking (which Word calls "spacing"). Select the text, go to Format
Font
Character Spacing and set the Spacing boxes to Expanded and some number
of
points, for example 6 pt (note that in proportional fonts there is no
fixed size
for "one space").

[sul@microsoft]

thanks and will try the macro

"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
Based on the other branch of this thread, the real objective is neither
kerning
nor letter spacing -- it is to insert real space characters in order to
make the
words unrecognizable to forum software. You could just as well use other
characters such as underscores instead of spaces. That is not formatting,
it's
text editing or modification.

As Terry suggested, if the words you want to modify are always the same
ones,
use AutoText or AutoCorrect. If you want to be able to change any selected
text,
use this macro, which you can assign to a shortcut or toolbar button:

Sub InsertSpaces()
Dim sIn As String, sOut As String
Dim i As Integer

sIn = Selection.Text
For i = 1 To Len(sIn)
sOut = sOut & Mid$(sIn, i, 1) & " "
Next

Selection.Text = sOut
End Sub

See http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm,
http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Custom...roToHotkey.htm,
and
http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Custom...oToToolbar.htm if
needed.

You might also look into using ROT13, a common way of "hiding" text in
posts
(it's built into some posting software):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rot13 and
http://www.google.com/search?q=rot13.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so all
may benefit.

On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:01:42 -0000, "Terry Farrell"
wrote:

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerning

and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter-spacing

for comprehensive explanations.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"sul@microsoft" wrote in message
...
I am been trying to understand what is kerning and tracking
your method works but this is not what I am looking for
thanks

"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:37:04 +0700, "Sul@Microsoft"

wrote:

Can Word XP format a doc so that there is One Space between letters (of
a
word) and Two space between words ?

The quick brown fox becomes

T h e q u i c k b r o w n f o x b e c o m e s


This has nothing to do with kerning (which Word does automatically),
but
it is
tracking (which Word calls "spacing"). Select the text, go to Format
Font
Character Spacing and set the Spacing boxes to Expanded and some number
of
points, for example 6 pt (note that in proportional fonts there is no
fixed size
for "one space").