[cayce]

We are working on W97. I need to get the chapter number to appear in the TOC.
I learned from a separate post that Stefan replied to that you need to use
Word's built-in headings 1-9 for that to occur. Unfortunately, we use unique
styles for headings that I cannot change out.

I am wondering if there is any other way, perhaps with a field inserted,
that would allow the chapter number to be included in the TOC by the page #.
I read with interest Suzanne Barnhill's Useful StyleRef tricks in the FAQs.
But, this seems to be dealing with text from styles getting pulled into the
TOC, not an automatically generated #. Also, I face the issue of having that
chapter number appear and an em dash after the dot leaders we use in our TOCs
but in front of the page number.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

The chapter number can be included as part of the chapter title if it's the
paragraph number of the title in the document; or you can add numbering to
the TOC style. If you want the chapter number to be added to the page
number, however (as you apparently do), then you do have to use one of the
built-in heading styles, and I'm afraid there's no easy way around that.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cayce" wrote in message
...
We are working on W97. I need to get the chapter number to appear in the
TOC.
I learned from a separate post that Stefan replied to that you need to use
Word's built-in headings 1-9 for that to occur. Unfortunately, we use
unique
styles for headings that I cannot change out.

I am wondering if there is any other way, perhaps with a field inserted,
that would allow the chapter number to be included in the TOC by the page
#.
I read with interest Suzanne Barnhill's Useful StyleRef tricks in the
FAQs.
But, this seems to be dealing with text from styles getting pulled into
the
TOC, not an automatically generated #. Also, I face the issue of having
that
chapter number appear and an em dash after the dot leaders we use in our
TOCs
but in front of the page number.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

[Dawn Crosier, Word MVP]

Yes, you can change your TOC so that it uses the styles that you used in
your document in your Table of Contents. I don't have Word 97 around, so
please bear with me. These instructions are based on Word 2000, which
should be similar, but not quite named the same.

When you go to the Insert menu, and select Index and Tables, and then
click on the Index and Tables tab, click on the Options button. The
Table of Contents Options is where you will clear the 1, 2, 3 from the
Heading 1, Heading 2, and Heading 3 styles. You will need to place 1, 2,
and 3 next to the styles that you used as your styles which should be
included in the Table of Contents.

You should now be able to click OK out of the dialog boxes and have your
Table of Contents appear.

Shout back if you still need help.


--
Dawn Crosier
Microsoft MVP
"Education Lasts a Lifetime"
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions
to the newsgroup so that others can learn as well.




"cayce" wrote in message
:

We are working on W97. I need to get the chapter number to appear in the TOC.
I learned from a separate post that Stefan replied to that you need to use
Word's built-in headings 1-9 for that to occur. Unfortunately, we use unique
styles for headings that I cannot change out.

I am wondering if there is any other way, perhaps with a field inserted,
that would allow the chapter number to be included in the TOC by the page #.
I read with interest Suzanne Barnhill's Useful StyleRef tricks in the FAQs.
But, this seems to be dealing with text from styles getting pulled into the
TOC, not an automatically generated #. Also, I face the issue of having that
chapter number appear and an em dash after the dot leaders we use in our TOCs
but in front of the page number.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.


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[cayce]

Suzanne:

Hmmm, maybe I am having a DUH moment. I don't understand what you mean by
"The chapter number can be included as part of the chapter title if it's the
paragraph number of the title in the document"

I also don't understand how/where I can add numbering to the TOC style.

Can you expand on these?

thanks

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

The chapter number can be included as part of the chapter title if it's the
paragraph number of the title in the document; or you can add numbering to
the TOC style. If you want the chapter number to be added to the page
number, however (as you apparently do), then you do have to use one of the
built-in heading styles, and I'm afraid there's no easy way around that.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cayce" wrote in message
...
We are working on W97. I need to get the chapter number to appear in the
TOC.
I learned from a separate post that Stefan replied to that you need to use
Word's built-in headings 1-9 for that to occur. Unfortunately, we use
unique
styles for headings that I cannot change out.

I am wondering if there is any other way, perhaps with a field inserted,
that would allow the chapter number to be included in the TOC by the page
#.
I read with interest Suzanne Barnhill's Useful StyleRef tricks in the
FAQs.
But, this seems to be dealing with text from styles getting pulled into
the
TOC, not an automatically generated #. Also, I face the issue of having
that
chapter number appear and an em dash after the dot leaders we use in our
TOCs
but in front of the page number.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Okay. Say your chapter title is something like this:

1. Title of the first chapter

By default, the chapter number will be included in the TOC entry
automatically (whether it's an auto number or typed as part of the heading).

If the title doesn't include a number, but you want the TOC entry numbered,
you can add numbering to the TOC style as described at
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/T...mberedHeadings.

But I don't think that either of these is what you want. If you want the
page numbers in the TOC to be 1-1, 2-1, etc. (that is, for the page numbers
to include the chapter number), then the only way to achieve this is to
include the chapter number in the page number displayed on the pages, and
the only way to do that is to use the "Include chapter number" feature in
Format Page Number, which does require that you use the built-in heading
styles (see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/ChapterNumber.htm).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cayce" wrote in message
...
Suzanne:

Hmmm, maybe I am having a DUH moment. I don't understand what you mean by
"The chapter number can be included as part of the chapter title if it's
the
paragraph number of the title in the document"

I also don't understand how/where I can add numbering to the TOC style.

Can you expand on these?

thanks

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

The chapter number can be included as part of the chapter title if it's
the
paragraph number of the title in the document; or you can add numbering
to
the TOC style. If you want the chapter number to be added to the page
number, however (as you apparently do), then you do have to use one of
the
built-in heading styles, and I'm afraid there's no easy way around that.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"cayce" wrote in message
...
We are working on W97. I need to get the chapter number to appear in
the
TOC.
I learned from a separate post that Stefan replied to that you need to
use
Word's built-in headings 1-9 for that to occur. Unfortunately, we use
unique
styles for headings that I cannot change out.

I am wondering if there is any other way, perhaps with a field
inserted,
that would allow the chapter number to be included in the TOC by the
page
#.
I read with interest Suzanne Barnhill's Useful StyleRef tricks in the
FAQs.
But, this seems to be dealing with text from styles getting pulled into
the
TOC, not an automatically generated #. Also, I face the issue of having
that
chapter number appear and an em dash after the dot leaders we use in
our
TOCs
but in front of the page number.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

[cayce]

Dawn:

Thanks for taking an interest. I am already doing this procedure you
describe. It's the only way to get the TOC to populate since I have no Word
built-in headings defined in all these documents.

Suzanne's response above did clarify for me though that the page numbers
WITH chapter number (1-1, 2-1, 3-1, etc.) in the TOC is not doable for me
unless I change all the styles in all these docs to use Words standard
builtin. For me, it is not an option to deviate from these styles so I'm sort
of stuck.

"Dawn Crosier, Word MVP" wrote:

Yes, you can change your TOC so that it uses the styles that you used in
your document in your Table of Contents. I don't have Word 97 around, so
please bear with me. These instructions are based on Word 2000, which
should be similar, but not quite named the same.

When you go to the Insert menu, and select Index and Tables, and then
click on the Index and Tables tab, click on the Options button. The
Table of Contents Options is where you will clear the 1, 2, 3 from the
Heading 1, Heading 2, and Heading 3 styles. You will need to place 1, 2,
and 3 next to the styles that you used as your styles which should be
included in the Table of Contents.

You should now be able to click OK out of the dialog boxes and have your
Table of Contents appear.

Shout back if you still need help.


--
Dawn Crosier
Microsoft MVP
"Education Lasts a Lifetime"
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions
to the newsgroup so that others can learn as well.




"cayce" wrote in message
:

We are working on W97. I need to get the chapter number to appear in the TOC.
I learned from a separate post that Stefan replied to that you need to use
Word's built-in headings 1-9 for that to occur. Unfortunately, we use unique
styles for headings that I cannot change out.

I am wondering if there is any other way, perhaps with a field inserted,
that would allow the chapter number to be included in the TOC by the page #.
I read with interest Suzanne Barnhill's Useful StyleRef tricks in the FAQs.
But, this seems to be dealing with text from styles getting pulled into the
TOC, not an automatically generated #. Also, I face the issue of having that
chapter number appear and an em dash after the dot leaders we use in our TOCs
but in front of the page number.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.


No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date:
12/14/2007 11:29 AM

[Daiya Mitchell]

You know, you can set Word's built-in Heading styles to look like
anything you want. You can define them to be identical to what your
company uses. The deviation will only be in the name of the style.
http://shaunakelly.com/word/numberin...ingStyles.html

In addition, you can easily switch from one style to another by using
Find and Replace.

cayce wrote:
Dawn:

Thanks for taking an interest. I am already doing this procedure you
describe. It's the only way to get the TOC to populate since I have no Word
built-in headings defined in all these documents.

Suzanne's response above did clarify for me though that the page numbers
WITH chapter number (1-1, 2-1, 3-1, etc.) in the TOC is not doable for me
unless I change all the styles in all these docs to use Words standard
builtin. For me, it is not an option to deviate from these styles so I'm sort
of stuck.

"Dawn Crosier, Word MVP" wrote:


Yes, you can change your TOC so that it uses the styles that you used in
your document in your Table of Contents. I don't have Word 97 around, so
please bear with me. These instructions are based on Word 2000, which
should be similar, but not quite named the same.

When you go to the Insert menu, and select Index and Tables, and then
click on the Index and Tables tab, click on the Options button. The
Table of Contents Options is where you will clear the 1, 2, 3 from the
Heading 1, Heading 2, and Heading 3 styles. You will need to place 1, 2,
and 3 next to the styles that you used as your styles which should be
included in the Table of Contents.

You should now be able to click OK out of the dialog boxes and have your
Table of Contents appear.

Shout back if you still need help.


--
Dawn Crosier
Microsoft MVP
"Education Lasts a Lifetime"
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions
to the newsgroup so that others can learn as well.




"cayce" wrote in message
:


We are working on W97. I need to get the chapter number to appear in the TOC.
I learned from a separate post that Stefan replied to that you need to use
Word's built-in headings 1-9 for that to occur. Unfortunately, we use unique
styles for headings that I cannot change out.

I am wondering if there is any other way, perhaps with a field inserted,
that would allow the chapter number to be included in the TOC by the page #.
I read with interest Suzanne Barnhill's Useful StyleRef tricks in the FAQs.
But, this seems to be dealing with text from styles getting pulled into the
TOC, not an automatically generated #. Also, I face the issue of having that
chapter number appear and an em dash after the dot leaders we use in our TOCs
but in front of the page number.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date:
12/14/2007 11:29 AM

[cayce]

Daiya:

yes...I am aware of this. My dilemma is these uniquely named styles are also
built into macros that I did not develop or design. I do not have the skill
to make change in Visual Basic; it also raises other operational challenges.
But, in the end, I may need to exercise this option.

thanks for taking an interest.

"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:

You know, you can set Word's built-in Heading styles to look like
anything you want. You can define them to be identical to what your
company uses. The deviation will only be in the name of the style.
http://shaunakelly.com/word/numberin...ingStyles.html

In addition, you can easily switch from one style to another by using
Find and Replace.

cayce wrote:
Dawn:

Thanks for taking an interest. I am already doing this procedure you
describe. It's the only way to get the TOC to populate since I have no Word
built-in headings defined in all these documents.

Suzanne's response above did clarify for me though that the page numbers
WITH chapter number (1-1, 2-1, 3-1, etc.) in the TOC is not doable for me
unless I change all the styles in all these docs to use Words standard
builtin. For me, it is not an option to deviate from these styles so I'm sort
of stuck.

"Dawn Crosier, Word MVP" wrote:


Yes, you can change your TOC so that it uses the styles that you used in
your document in your Table of Contents. I don't have Word 97 around, so
please bear with me. These instructions are based on Word 2000, which
should be similar, but not quite named the same.

When you go to the Insert menu, and select Index and Tables, and then
click on the Index and Tables tab, click on the Options button. The
Table of Contents Options is where you will clear the 1, 2, 3 from the
Heading 1, Heading 2, and Heading 3 styles. You will need to place 1, 2,
and 3 next to the styles that you used as your styles which should be
included in the Table of Contents.

You should now be able to click OK out of the dialog boxes and have your
Table of Contents appear.

Shout back if you still need help.


--
Dawn Crosier
Microsoft MVP
"Education Lasts a Lifetime"
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions
to the newsgroup so that others can learn as well.




"cayce" wrote in message
:


We are working on W97. I need to get the chapter number to appear in the TOC.
I learned from a separate post that Stefan replied to that you need to use
Word's built-in headings 1-9 for that to occur. Unfortunately, we use unique
styles for headings that I cannot change out.

I am wondering if there is any other way, perhaps with a field inserted,
that would allow the chapter number to be included in the TOC by the page #.
I read with interest Suzanne Barnhill's Useful StyleRef tricks in the FAQs.
But, this seems to be dealing with text from styles getting pulled into the
TOC, not an automatically generated #. Also, I face the issue of having that
chapter number appear and an em dash after the dot leaders we use in our TOCs
but in front of the page number.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date:
12/14/2007 11:29 AM

[Stefan Blom]

Note that if/when you want to modify the macro, you can probably get
assistance in one of the Word VBA newsgroups, for example
microsoft.public.word.vba.general.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"cayce" wrote in message
...

Daiya:

yes...I am aware of this. My dilemma is these uniquely named styles are
also
built into macros that I did not develop or design. I do not have the
skill
to make change in Visual Basic; it also raises other operational
challenges.
But, in the end, I may need to exercise this option.

thanks for taking an interest.

"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:

You know, you can set Word's built-in Heading styles to look like
anything you want. You can define them to be identical to what your
company uses. The deviation will only be in the name of the style.
http://shaunakelly.com/word/numberin...ingStyles.html

In addition, you can easily switch from one style to another by using
Find and Replace.

cayce wrote:
Dawn:

Thanks for taking an interest. I am already doing this procedure you
describe. It's the only way to get the TOC to populate since I have no
Word
built-in headings defined in all these documents.

Suzanne's response above did clarify for me though that the page
numbers
WITH chapter number (1-1, 2-1, 3-1, etc.) in the TOC is not doable for
me
unless I change all the styles in all these docs to use Words standard
builtin. For me, it is not an option to deviate from these styles so
I'm sort
of stuck.

"Dawn Crosier, Word MVP" wrote:


Yes, you can change your TOC so that it uses the styles that you used
in
your document in your Table of Contents. I don't have Word 97 around,
so
please bear with me. These instructions are based on Word 2000, which
should be similar, but not quite named the same.

When you go to the Insert menu, and select Index and Tables, and then
click on the Index and Tables tab, click on the Options button. The
Table of Contents Options is where you will clear the 1, 2, 3 from the
Heading 1, Heading 2, and Heading 3 styles. You will need to place 1,
2,
and 3 next to the styles that you used as your styles which should be
included in the Table of Contents.

You should now be able to click OK out of the dialog boxes and have
your
Table of Contents appear.

Shout back if you still need help.


--
Dawn Crosier
Microsoft MVP
"Education Lasts a Lifetime"
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and
questions
to the newsgroup so that others can learn as well.




"cayce" wrote in message
:


We are working on W97. I need to get the chapter number to appear in
the TOC.
I learned from a separate post that Stefan replied to that you need
to use
Word's built-in headings 1-9 for that to occur. Unfortunately, we use
unique
styles for headings that I cannot change out.

I am wondering if there is any other way, perhaps with a field
inserted,
that would allow the chapter number to be included in the TOC by the
page #.
I read with interest Suzanne Barnhill's Useful StyleRef tricks in the
FAQs.
But, this seems to be dealing with text from styles getting pulled
into the
TOC, not an automatically generated #. Also, I face the issue of
having that
chapter number appear and an em dash after the dot leaders we use in
our TOCs
but in front of the page number.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

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12/14/2007 11:29 AM

[cayce]

thanks Stefan. I will keep this in mind.

I find these forums a HUGE support to me in my job. I'd be lost without
all the experrtize this group provides. Thanks again to you and all the MVPs
for educating and problem solving.

Happy Holidays to all of you!

Peace

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

Note that if/when you want to modify the macro, you can probably get
assistance in one of the Word VBA newsgroups, for example
microsoft.public.word.vba.general.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"cayce" wrote in message
...

Daiya:

yes...I am aware of this. My dilemma is these uniquely named styles are
also
built into macros that I did not develop or design. I do not have the
skill
to make change in Visual Basic; it also raises other operational
challenges.
But, in the end, I may need to exercise this option.

thanks for taking an interest.

"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:

You know, you can set Word's built-in Heading styles to look like
anything you want. You can define them to be identical to what your
company uses. The deviation will only be in the name of the style.
http://shaunakelly.com/word/numberin...ingStyles.html

In addition, you can easily switch from one style to another by using
Find and Replace.

cayce wrote:
Dawn:

Thanks for taking an interest. I am already doing this procedure you
describe. It's the only way to get the TOC to populate since I have no
Word
built-in headings defined in all these documents.

Suzanne's response above did clarify for me though that the page
numbers
WITH chapter number (1-1, 2-1, 3-1, etc.) in the TOC is not doable for
me
unless I change all the styles in all these docs to use Words standard
builtin. For me, it is not an option to deviate from these styles so
I'm sort
of stuck.

"Dawn Crosier, Word MVP" wrote:


Yes, you can change your TOC so that it uses the styles that you used
in
your document in your Table of Contents. I don't have Word 97 around,
so
please bear with me. These instructions are based on Word 2000, which
should be similar, but not quite named the same.

When you go to the Insert menu, and select Index and Tables, and then
click on the Index and Tables tab, click on the Options button. The
Table of Contents Options is where you will clear the 1, 2, 3 from the
Heading 1, Heading 2, and Heading 3 styles. You will need to place 1,
2,
and 3 next to the styles that you used as your styles which should be
included in the Table of Contents.

You should now be able to click OK out of the dialog boxes and have
your
Table of Contents appear.

Shout back if you still need help.


--
Dawn Crosier
Microsoft MVP
"Education Lasts a Lifetime"
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and
questions
to the newsgroup so that others can learn as well.




"cayce" wrote in message
:


We are working on W97. I need to get the chapter number to appear in
the TOC.
I learned from a separate post that Stefan replied to that you need
to use
Word's built-in headings 1-9 for that to occur. Unfortunately, we use
unique
styles for headings that I cannot change out.

I am wondering if there is any other way, perhaps with a field
inserted,
that would allow the chapter number to be included in the TOC by the
page #.
I read with interest Suzanne Barnhill's Useful StyleRef tricks in the
FAQs.
But, this seems to be dealing with text from styles getting pulled
into the
TOC, not an automatically generated #. Also, I face the issue of
having that
chapter number appear and an em dash after the dot leaders we use in
our TOCs
but in front of the page number.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date:
12/14/2007 11:29 AM