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Style box added on 2007 QAT shows nothing
We were confounded by MS's decision to remove the Style box from the
default interface in 2007, but were able to add it to the QAT using the Customize dialog. Just recently it seems to have lost its innards. When you click its drop-down arrow you get a long dropdown list as before, but it's *empty* except for one entry showing the style at the cursor. Nghghh?? Any ideas why this happens? Happens in every doc. Typing a style's name or alias in the box applies it, as it should. But that only works if you've memorized them! Tried removing & re-adding the Style box to the QAT, no change. Help?? MT |
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FWIW, I have seen this as well. As far as I know, there is no fix or
workaround available. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Mark Tangard" wrote in message ... We were confounded by MS's decision to remove the Style box from the default interface in 2007, but were able to add it to the QAT using the Customize dialog. Just recently it seems to have lost its innards. When you click its drop-down arrow you get a long dropdown list as before, but it's *empty* except for one entry showing the style at the cursor. Nghghh?? Any ideas why this happens? Happens in every doc. Typing a style's name or alias in the box applies it, as it should. But that only works if you've memorized them! Tried removing & re-adding the Style box to the QAT, no change. Help?? MT |
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Well, that's pretty upsetting.
I can't imagine all the style-using folks I used to know here in pre-2007 days have just shrugged this off. Is there a new recommended way to manage text formatting in 2007 that I don't know about? Is our only option to downgrade this machine back to 2003? It's not very usable this way. Just realized I didn't try a Detect/Repair; will do that & post back. Mark Stefan Blom wrote: FWIW, I have seen this as well. As far as I know, there is no fix or workaround available. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Mark Tangard" wrote in message ... We were confounded by MS's decision to remove the Style box from the default interface in 2007, but were able to add it to the QAT using the Customize dialog. Just recently it seems to have lost its innards. When you click its drop-down arrow you get a long dropdown list as before, but it's *empty* except for one entry showing the style at the cursor. Nghghh?? Any ideas why this happens? Happens in every doc. Typing a style's name or alias in the box applies it, as it should. But that only works if you've memorized them! Tried removing & re-adding the Style box to the QAT, no change. Help?? MT |
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Fortunately I have not seen that particular problem, but does
CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S work? If so you can add that dialog to the QAT it is called Styles ... From that dialog you can set the display options. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Mark Tangard wrote: Well, that's pretty upsetting. I can't imagine all the style-using folks I used to know here in pre-2007 days have just shrugged this off. Is there a new recommended way to manage text formatting in 2007 that I don't know about? Is our only option to downgrade this machine back to 2003? It's not very usable this way. Just realized I didn't try a Detect/Repair; will do that & post back. Mark Stefan Blom wrote: FWIW, I have seen this as well. As far as I know, there is no fix or workaround available. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Mark Tangard" wrote in message ... We were confounded by MS's decision to remove the Style box from the default interface in 2007, but were able to add it to the QAT using the Customize dialog. Just recently it seems to have lost its innards. When you click its drop-down arrow you get a long dropdown list as before, but it's *empty* except for one entry showing the style at the cursor. Nghghh?? Any ideas why this happens? Happens in every doc. Typing a style's name or alias in the box applies it, as it should. But that only works if you've memorized them! Tried removing & re-adding the Style box to the QAT, no change. Help?? MT |
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There is a discussion in the private newsgroup about this issue, but it has
been a while, so I don't know if it is still accessible. I posted the initial question in that thread, as soon as I noticed the issue (since then I have seen it on another Word installation as well). Someone else confirmed the behavior, but I don't remember who it was. Beth Melton? Cindy Meister? As far as I can remember, no one was able to describe the circumstances that caused the problem, and a few suggested workarounds such as creating a new user profile didn't help. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... Fortunately I have not seen that particular problem, but does CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S work? If so you can add that dialog to the QAT it is called Styles ... From that dialog you can set the display options. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Mark Tangard wrote: Well, that's pretty upsetting. I can't imagine all the style-using folks I used to know here in pre-2007 days have just shrugged this off. Is there a new recommended way to manage text formatting in 2007 that I don't know about? Is our only option to downgrade this machine back to 2003? It's not very usable this way. Just realized I didn't try a Detect/Repair; will do that & post back. Mark Stefan Blom wrote: FWIW, I have seen this as well. As far as I know, there is no fix or workaround available. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Mark Tangard" wrote in message ... We were confounded by MS's decision to remove the Style box from the default interface in 2007, but were able to add it to the QAT using the Customize dialog. Just recently it seems to have lost its innards. When you click its drop-down arrow you get a long dropdown list as before, but it's *empty* except for one entry showing the style at the cursor. Nghghh?? Any ideas why this happens? Happens in every doc. Typing a style's name or alias in the box applies it, as it should. But that only works if you've memorized them! Tried removing & re-adding the Style box to the QAT, no change. Help?? MT |
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I saw this problem once... and deleting Normal.dotm (and letting Word create
a new one) fixed it. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... There is a discussion in the private newsgroup about this issue, but it has been a while, so I don't know if it is still accessible. I posted the initial question in that thread, as soon as I noticed the issue (since then I have seen it on another Word installation as well). Someone else confirmed the behavior, but I don't remember who it was. Beth Melton? Cindy Meister? As far as I can remember, no one was able to describe the circumstances that caused the problem, and a few suggested workarounds such as creating a new user profile didn't help. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... Fortunately I have not seen that particular problem, but does CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S work? If so you can add that dialog to the QAT it is called Styles ... From that dialog you can set the display options. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Mark Tangard wrote: Well, that's pretty upsetting. I can't imagine all the style-using folks I used to know here in pre-2007 days have just shrugged this off. Is there a new recommended way to manage text formatting in 2007 that I don't know about? Is our only option to downgrade this machine back to 2003? It's not very usable this way. Just realized I didn't try a Detect/Repair; will do that & post back. Mark Stefan Blom wrote: FWIW, I have seen this as well. As far as I know, there is no fix or workaround available. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Mark Tangard" wrote in message ... We were confounded by MS's decision to remove the Style box from the default interface in 2007, but were able to add it to the QAT using the Customize dialog. Just recently it seems to have lost its innards. When you click its drop-down arrow you get a long dropdown list as before, but it's *empty* except for one entry showing the style at the cursor. Nghghh?? Any ideas why this happens? Happens in every doc. Typing a style's name or alias in the box applies it, as it should. But that only works if you've memorized them! Tried removing & re-adding the Style box to the QAT, no change. Help?? MT |
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Hi people. Graham's suggestion worked. Actually you don't even need the ALT,
which of course now reminds me that the pre-2007 shortcut to get to the Style box was always CTRL+SHIFT+S, so obviously I should've tried that first, duh. I'll try Herb's also (should've thought of that too) if it happens again -- awkward though, since there's code in some of my users' Normal templates. The floating Apply Style window that comes up with CTRL+SHIFT+S actually seems slightly more legible than the one you get when you add 'Style' to the QAT (illusion?), so we may stick with that. (On a tangent there, as a group my team is pretty ticked off at how it seems impossible to adjust the font size of ribbon items throughout Office 2007, to make them more legible to folks who aren't 20. Anybody else climbing the walls over that? I & many of my crew already wear eyeglasses...) Thanks all, MT Herb Tyson [MVP] wrote: I saw this problem once... and deleting Normal.dotm (and letting Word create a new one) fixed it. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... There is a discussion in the private newsgroup about this issue, but it has been a while, so I don't know if it is still accessible. I posted the initial question in that thread, as soon as I noticed the issue (since then I have seen it on another Word installation as well). Someone else confirmed the behavior, but I don't remember who it was. Beth Melton? Cindy Meister? As far as I can remember, no one was able to describe the circumstances that caused the problem, and a few suggested workarounds such as creating a new user profile didn't help. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... Fortunately I have not seen that particular problem, but does CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S work? If so you can add that dialog to the QAT it is called Styles ... From that dialog you can set the display options. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Mark Tangard wrote: Well, that's pretty upsetting. I can't imagine all the style-using folks I used to know here in pre-2007 days have just shrugged this off. Is there a new recommended way to manage text formatting in 2007 that I don't know about? Is our only option to downgrade this machine back to 2003? It's not very usable this way. Just realized I didn't try a Detect/Repair; will do that & post back. Mark Stefan Blom wrote: FWIW, I have seen this as well. As far as I know, there is no fix or workaround available. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Mark Tangard" wrote in message ... We were confounded by MS's decision to remove the Style box from the default interface in 2007, but were able to add it to the QAT using the Customize dialog. Just recently it seems to have lost its innards. When you click its drop-down arrow you get a long dropdown list as before, but it's *empty* except for one entry showing the style at the cursor. Nghghh?? Any ideas why this happens? Happens in every doc. Typing a style's name or alias in the box applies it, as it should. But that only works if you've memorized them! Tried removing & re-adding the Style box to the QAT, no change. Help?? MT |
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Deleting normal.dotm did not work for me.
-- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... I saw this problem once... and deleting Normal.dotm (and letting Word create a new one) fixed it. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... There is a discussion in the private newsgroup about this issue, but it has been a while, so I don't know if it is still accessible. I posted the initial question in that thread, as soon as I noticed the issue (since then I have seen it on another Word installation as well). Someone else confirmed the behavior, but I don't remember who it was. Beth Melton? Cindy Meister? As far as I can remember, no one was able to describe the circumstances that caused the problem, and a few suggested workarounds such as creating a new user profile didn't help. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... Fortunately I have not seen that particular problem, but does CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S work? If so you can add that dialog to the QAT it is called Styles ... From that dialog you can set the display options. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Mark Tangard wrote: Well, that's pretty upsetting. I can't imagine all the style-using folks I used to know here in pre-2007 days have just shrugged this off. Is there a new recommended way to manage text formatting in 2007 that I don't know about? Is our only option to downgrade this machine back to 2003? It's not very usable this way. Just realized I didn't try a Detect/Repair; will do that & post back. Mark Stefan Blom wrote: FWIW, I have seen this as well. As far as I know, there is no fix or workaround available. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Mark Tangard" wrote in message ... We were confounded by MS's decision to remove the Style box from the default interface in 2007, but were able to add it to the QAT using the Customize dialog. Just recently it seems to have lost its innards. When you click its drop-down arrow you get a long dropdown list as before, but it's *empty* except for one entry showing the style at the cursor. Nghghh?? Any ideas why this happens? Happens in every doc. Typing a style's name or alias in the box applies it, as it should. But that only works if you've memorized them! Tried removing & re-adding the Style box to the QAT, no change. Help?? MT |
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So... you have this problem at present? I assume you've been through "the
usual suspects" such as deleting the Data key or even renaming the Word branch that contains the Data key. What about deleting/renaming word.qat? Mine is he C:\Users\Herb\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Office -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Deleting normal.dotm did not work for me. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... I saw this problem once... and deleting Normal.dotm (and letting Word create a new one) fixed it. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... There is a discussion in the private newsgroup about this issue, but it has been a while, so I don't know if it is still accessible. I posted the initial question in that thread, as soon as I noticed the issue (since then I have seen it on another Word installation as well). Someone else confirmed the behavior, but I don't remember who it was. Beth Melton? Cindy Meister? As far as I can remember, no one was able to describe the circumstances that caused the problem, and a few suggested workarounds such as creating a new user profile didn't help. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... Fortunately I have not seen that particular problem, but does CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S work? If so you can add that dialog to the QAT it is called Styles ... From that dialog you can set the display options. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Mark Tangard wrote: Well, that's pretty upsetting. I can't imagine all the style-using folks I used to know here in pre-2007 days have just shrugged this off. Is there a new recommended way to manage text formatting in 2007 that I don't know about? Is our only option to downgrade this machine back to 2003? It's not very usable this way. Just realized I didn't try a Detect/Repair; will do that & post back. Mark Stefan Blom wrote: FWIW, I have seen this as well. As far as I know, there is no fix or workaround available. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Mark Tangard" wrote in message ... We were confounded by MS's decision to remove the Style box from the default interface in 2007, but were able to add it to the QAT using the Customize dialog. Just recently it seems to have lost its innards. When you click its drop-down arrow you get a long dropdown list as before, but it's *empty* except for one entry showing the style at the cursor. Nghghh?? Any ideas why this happens? Happens in every doc. Typing a style's name or alias in the box applies it, as it should. But that only works if you've memorized them! Tried removing & re-adding the Style box to the QAT, no change. Help?? MT |
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I've had it on my home computer since I first reported it in the private
newsgroup. And, no, the usual suspects were found not guilty. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... So... you have this problem at present? I assume you've been through "the usual suspects" such as deleting the Data key or even renaming the Word branch that contains the Data key. What about deleting/renaming word.qat? Mine is he C:\Users\Herb\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Office -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Deleting normal.dotm did not work for me. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... I saw this problem once... and deleting Normal.dotm (and letting Word create a new one) fixed it. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... There is a discussion in the private newsgroup about this issue, but it has been a while, so I don't know if it is still accessible. I posted the initial question in that thread, as soon as I noticed the issue (since then I have seen it on another Word installation as well). Someone else confirmed the behavior, but I don't remember who it was. Beth Melton? Cindy Meister? As far as I can remember, no one was able to describe the circumstances that caused the problem, and a few suggested workarounds such as creating a new user profile didn't help. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... Fortunately I have not seen that particular problem, but does CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S work? If so you can add that dialog to the QAT it is called Styles ... From that dialog you can set the display options. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Mark Tangard wrote: Well, that's pretty upsetting. I can't imagine all the style-using folks I used to know here in pre-2007 days have just shrugged this off. Is there a new recommended way to manage text formatting in 2007 that I don't know about? Is our only option to downgrade this machine back to 2003? It's not very usable this way. Just realized I didn't try a Detect/Repair; will do that & post back. Mark Stefan Blom wrote: FWIW, I have seen this as well. As far as I know, there is no fix or workaround available. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Mark Tangard" wrote in message ... We were confounded by MS's decision to remove the Style box from the default interface in 2007, but were able to add it to the QAT using the Customize dialog. Just recently it seems to have lost its innards. When you click its drop-down arrow you get a long dropdown list as before, but it's *empty* except for one entry showing the style at the cursor. Nghghh?? Any ideas why this happens? Happens in every doc. Typing a style's name or alias in the box applies it, as it should. But that only works if you've memorized them! Tried removing & re-adding the Style box to the QAT, no change. Help?? MT |
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The other possibility that occurs to me is that it might be a resource
problem (in years past, failure of lists to populate were often related to resources). This can range from low memory to other programs squashing the area of memory being used. A misbehaving display driver can cause such problems, too. As a first check on that, I would try reducing the resolution to see if that "fixes" it. You might also try changing the settings for the shortcut that starts Word (assuming this is in Vista). Look at the Compatibility tab and see if a different setting affects it. It if used to work fine, but has stopped working, it's possible that a Windows or Office update killed it by replacing one of the underlying rendering dll files. If you have a general idea of when it stopped working correctly, take a look at your update and installation history/dates to see if there's something you installed the preceded its stopping working. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... I've had it on my home computer since I first reported it in the private newsgroup. And, no, the usual suspects were found not guilty. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... So... you have this problem at present? I assume you've been through "the usual suspects" such as deleting the Data key or even renaming the Word branch that contains the Data key. What about deleting/renaming word.qat? Mine is he C:\Users\Herb\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Office -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Deleting normal.dotm did not work for me. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... I saw this problem once... and deleting Normal.dotm (and letting Word create a new one) fixed it. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... There is a discussion in the private newsgroup about this issue, but it has been a while, so I don't know if it is still accessible. I posted the initial question in that thread, as soon as I noticed the issue (since then I have seen it on another Word installation as well). Someone else confirmed the behavior, but I don't remember who it was. Beth Melton? Cindy Meister? As far as I can remember, no one was able to describe the circumstances that caused the problem, and a few suggested workarounds such as creating a new user profile didn't help. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... Fortunately I have not seen that particular problem, but does CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S work? If so you can add that dialog to the QAT it is called Styles ... From that dialog you can set the display options. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Mark Tangard wrote: Well, that's pretty upsetting. I can't imagine all the style-using folks I used to know here in pre-2007 days have just shrugged this off. Is there a new recommended way to manage text formatting in 2007 that I don't know about? Is our only option to downgrade this machine back to 2003? It's not very usable this way. Just realized I didn't try a Detect/Repair; will do that & post back. Mark Stefan Blom wrote: FWIW, I have seen this as well. As far as I know, there is no fix or workaround available. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Mark Tangard" wrote in message ... We were confounded by MS's decision to remove the Style box from the default interface in 2007, but were able to add it to the QAT using the Customize dialog. Just recently it seems to have lost its innards. When you click its drop-down arrow you get a long dropdown list as before, but it's *empty* except for one entry showing the style at the cursor. Nghghh?? Any ideas why this happens? Happens in every doc. Typing a style's name or alias in the box applies it, as it should. But that only works if you've memorized them! Tried removing & re-adding the Style box to the QAT, no change. Help?? MT |
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Stefan,
You might also try putting it in an add-on template QAT. PamC Stefan Blom wrote: I've had it on my home computer since I first reported it in the private newsgroup. And, no, the usual suspects were found not guilty. :-( So... you have this problem at present? I assume you've been through "the usual suspects" such as deleting the Data key or even renaming the Word [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] MT -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ement/200809/1 |
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The error is with the Style box no matter where it is located.
-- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "PamC via OfficeKB.com" u43222@uwe wrote in message news:8a168de127350@uwe... Stefan, You might also try putting it in an add-on template QAT. PamC Stefan Blom wrote: I've had it on my home computer since I first reported it in the private newsgroup. And, no, the usual suspects were found not guilty. :-( So... you have this problem at present? I assume you've been through "the usual suspects" such as deleting the Data key or even renaming the Word [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] MT -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ement/200809/1 |
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Actually, I spent most of the weekend experimenting with this on my home
computer, and I found that loggin in as Administrator and deleting my entire user profile fixed the problem. When restarting Word, the Style box worked fine again. Of course, it would be helpful to know what exactly is causing the issue. In my current situation, I don't know when/if it will happen again. :-( The problem usually starts with the table style entries, some of which get blank, and then it affects the other styles listed, resulting in a drop-down of blank entries. You can still apply styles, but you cannot tell which style you are applying. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... I've had it on my home computer since I first reported it in the private newsgroup. And, no, the usual suspects were found not guilty. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... So... you have this problem at present? I assume you've been through "the usual suspects" such as deleting the Data key or even renaming the Word branch that contains the Data key. What about deleting/renaming word.qat? Mine is he C:\Users\Herb\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Office -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Deleting normal.dotm did not work for me. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... I saw this problem once... and deleting Normal.dotm (and letting Word create a new one) fixed it. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... There is a discussion in the private newsgroup about this issue, but it has been a while, so I don't know if it is still accessible. I posted the initial question in that thread, as soon as I noticed the issue (since then I have seen it on another Word installation as well). Someone else confirmed the behavior, but I don't remember who it was. Beth Melton? Cindy Meister? As far as I can remember, no one was able to describe the circumstances that caused the problem, and a few suggested workarounds such as creating a new user profile didn't help. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... Fortunately I have not seen that particular problem, but does CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S work? If so you can add that dialog to the QAT it is called Styles ... From that dialog you can set the display options. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Mark Tangard wrote: Well, that's pretty upsetting. I can't imagine all the style-using folks I used to know here in pre-2007 days have just shrugged this off. Is there a new recommended way to manage text formatting in 2007 that I don't know about? Is our only option to downgrade this machine back to 2003? It's not very usable this way. Just realized I didn't try a Detect/Repair; will do that & post back. Mark Stefan Blom wrote: FWIW, I have seen this as well. As far as I know, there is no fix or workaround available. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Mark Tangard" wrote in message ... We were confounded by MS's decision to remove the Style box from the default interface in 2007, but were able to add it to the QAT using the Customize dialog. Just recently it seems to have lost its innards. When you click its drop-down arrow you get a long dropdown list as before, but it's *empty* except for one entry showing the style at the cursor. Nghghh?? Any ideas why this happens? Happens in every doc. Typing a style's name or alias in the box applies it, as it should. But that only works if you've memorized them! Tried removing & re-adding the Style box to the QAT, no change. Help?? MT |
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"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:
The other possibility that occurs to me is that it might be a resource problem (in years past, failure of lists to populate were often related to resources). This can range from low memory to other programs squashing the area of memory being used. A misbehaving display driver can cause such problems, too. As a first check on that, I would try reducing the resolution to see if that "fixes" it. You might also try changing the settings for the shortcut that starts Word (assuming this is in Vista). Look at the Compatibility tab and see if a different setting affects it. Thank you for the suggestion. I'll look into this as soon as I get the time. But if the problem is related to memory or to the display driver, how come it affects only the Style box? One would think it should happen to, say, the Font dropdown as well? It if used to work fine, but has stopped working, it's possible that a Windows or Office update killed it by replacing one of the underlying rendering dll files. If you have a general idea of when it stopped working correctly, take a look at your update and installation history/dates to see if there's something you installed the preceded its stopping working. The problem occurred as soon as I installed Office 2007. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... I've had it on my home computer since I first reported it in the private newsgroup. And, no, the usual suspects were found not guilty. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... So... you have this problem at present? I assume you've been through "the usual suspects" such as deleting the Data key or even renaming the Word branch that contains the Data key. What about deleting/renaming word.qat? Mine is he C:\Users\Herb\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Office -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Deleting normal.dotm did not work for me. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... I saw this problem once... and deleting Normal.dotm (and letting Word create a new one) fixed it. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... There is a discussion in the private newsgroup about this issue, but it has been a while, so I don't know if it is still accessible. I posted the initial question in that thread, as soon as I noticed the issue (since then I have seen it on another Word installation as well). Someone else confirmed the behavior, but I don't remember who it was. Beth Melton? Cindy Meister? As far as I can remember, no one was able to describe the circumstances that caused the problem, and a few suggested workarounds such as creating a new user profile didn't help. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... Fortunately I have not seen that particular problem, but does CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S work? If so you can add that dialog to the QAT it is called Styles ... From that dialog you can set the display options. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Mark Tangard wrote: Well, that's pretty upsetting. I can't imagine all the style-using folks I used to know here in pre-2007 days have just shrugged this off. Is there a new recommended way to manage text formatting in 2007 that I don't know about? Is our only option to downgrade this machine back to 2003? It's not very usable this way. Just realized I didn't try a Detect/Repair; will do that & post back. Mark Stefan Blom wrote: FWIW, I have seen this as well. As far as I know, there is no fix or workaround available. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Mark Tangard" wrote in message ... We were confounded by MS's decision to remove the Style box from the default interface in 2007, but were able to add it to the QAT using the Customize dialog. Just recently it seems to have lost its innards. When you click its drop-down arrow you get a long dropdown list as before, but it's *empty* except for one entry showing the style at the cursor. Nghghh?? Any ideas why this happens? Happens in every doc. Typing a style's name or alias in the box applies it, as it should. But that only works if you've memorized them! Tried removing & re-adding the Style box to the QAT, no change. Help?? MT |
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You've now said elsewhere that creating a new user profile "solves" the
problem. Since it never worked correctly (I had thought that it worked okay at first and later stopped working), my guess would be that there was a glitch during setup when Office created user-specific settings, rather than this being a resource problem. As to why a resource problem would have a narrow impact... I don't know, except to say that back when the problem occurred frequently... it was pretty selective about where it happened, so I presumed that "resource problem" was a euphemism for "coding error that affects specific features". But, this is moot if the problem was solved with a new user profile. This says that it was some kind of setup problem. It might be in the user file structure, or it might be in the registry. Having "solved" a variety of problem in the same way, and having tried to "copy" the solution to a problem user profile, I've never been able to do that by copying files or registry entries from a "good" user to a "bad" user. Word works in mysterious ways. :-) -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote: The other possibility that occurs to me is that it might be a resource problem (in years past, failure of lists to populate were often related to resources). This can range from low memory to other programs squashing the area of memory being used. A misbehaving display driver can cause such problems, too. As a first check on that, I would try reducing the resolution to see if that "fixes" it. You might also try changing the settings for the shortcut that starts Word (assuming this is in Vista). Look at the Compatibility tab and see if a different setting affects it. Thank you for the suggestion. I'll look into this as soon as I get the time. But if the problem is related to memory or to the display driver, how come it affects only the Style box? One would think it should happen to, say, the Font dropdown as well? It if used to work fine, but has stopped working, it's possible that a Windows or Office update killed it by replacing one of the underlying rendering dll files. If you have a general idea of when it stopped working correctly, take a look at your update and installation history/dates to see if there's something you installed the preceded its stopping working. The problem occurred as soon as I installed Office 2007. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... I've had it on my home computer since I first reported it in the private newsgroup. And, no, the usual suspects were found not guilty. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... So... you have this problem at present? I assume you've been through "the usual suspects" such as deleting the Data key or even renaming the Word branch that contains the Data key. What about deleting/renaming word.qat? Mine is he C:\Users\Herb\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Office -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Deleting normal.dotm did not work for me. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... I saw this problem once... and deleting Normal.dotm (and letting Word create a new one) fixed it. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... There is a discussion in the private newsgroup about this issue, but it has been a while, so I don't know if it is still accessible. I posted the initial question in that thread, as soon as I noticed the issue (since then I have seen it on another Word installation as well). Someone else confirmed the behavior, but I don't remember who it was. Beth Melton? Cindy Meister? As far as I can remember, no one was able to describe the circumstances that caused the problem, and a few suggested workarounds such as creating a new user profile didn't help. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... Fortunately I have not seen that particular problem, but does CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S work? If so you can add that dialog to the QAT it is called Styles ... From that dialog you can set the display options. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Mark Tangard wrote: Well, that's pretty upsetting. I can't imagine all the style-using folks I used to know here in pre-2007 days have just shrugged this off. Is there a new recommended way to manage text formatting in 2007 that I don't know about? Is our only option to downgrade this machine back to 2003? It's not very usable this way. Just realized I didn't try a Detect/Repair; will do that & post back. Mark Stefan Blom wrote: FWIW, I have seen this as well. As far as I know, there is no fix or workaround available. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Mark Tangard" wrote in message ... We were confounded by MS's decision to remove the Style box from the default interface in 2007, but were able to add it to the QAT using the Customize dialog. Just recently it seems to have lost its innards. When you click its drop-down arrow you get a long dropdown list as before, but it's *empty* except for one entry showing the style at the cursor. Nghghh?? Any ideas why this happens? Happens in every doc. Typing a style's name or alias in the box applies it, as it should. But that only works if you've memorized them! Tried removing & re-adding the Style box to the QAT, no change. Help?? MT |
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"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
... You've now said elsewhere that creating a new user profile "solves" the problem. Since it never worked correctly (I had thought that it worked okay at first and later stopped working), my guess would be that there was a glitch during setup when Office created user-specific settings, rather than this being a resource problem. As to why a resource problem would have a narrow impact... I don't know, except to say that back when the problem occurred frequently... it was pretty selective about where it happened, so I presumed that "resource problem" was a euphemism for "coding error that affects specific features". But, this is moot if the problem was solved with a new user profile. This says that it was some kind of setup problem. It might be in the user file structure, or it might be in the registry. Having "solved" a variety of problem in the same way, and having tried to "copy" the solution to a problem user profile, I've never been able to do that by copying files or registry entries from a "good" user to a "bad" user. Word works in mysterious ways. :-) In other words, you never know what to expect... g Actually, yesterday afternoon I realized that some of the table styles are back to showing as blank entries in the Style drop down. sigh I guess I will have to continue looking at this, when I can find the time for it. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote: The other possibility that occurs to me is that it might be a resource problem (in years past, failure of lists to populate were often related to resources). This can range from low memory to other programs squashing the area of memory being used. A misbehaving display driver can cause such problems, too. As a first check on that, I would try reducing the resolution to see if that "fixes" it. You might also try changing the settings for the shortcut that starts Word (assuming this is in Vista). Look at the Compatibility tab and see if a different setting affects it. Thank you for the suggestion. I'll look into this as soon as I get the time. But if the problem is related to memory or to the display driver, how come it affects only the Style box? One would think it should happen to, say, the Font dropdown as well? It if used to work fine, but has stopped working, it's possible that a Windows or Office update killed it by replacing one of the underlying rendering dll files. If you have a general idea of when it stopped working correctly, take a look at your update and installation history/dates to see if there's something you installed the preceded its stopping working. The problem occurred as soon as I installed Office 2007. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... I've had it on my home computer since I first reported it in the private newsgroup. And, no, the usual suspects were found not guilty. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... So... you have this problem at present? I assume you've been through "the usual suspects" such as deleting the Data key or even renaming the Word branch that contains the Data key. What about deleting/renaming word.qat? Mine is he C:\Users\Herb\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Office -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Deleting normal.dotm did not work for me. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... I saw this problem once... and deleting Normal.dotm (and letting Word create a new one) fixed it. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... There is a discussion in the private newsgroup about this issue, but it has been a while, so I don't know if it is still accessible. I posted the initial question in that thread, as soon as I noticed the issue (since then I have seen it on another Word installation as well). Someone else confirmed the behavior, but I don't remember who it was. Beth Melton? Cindy Meister? As far as I can remember, no one was able to describe the circumstances that caused the problem, and a few suggested workarounds such as creating a new user profile didn't help. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... Fortunately I have not seen that particular problem, but does CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+S work? If so you can add that dialog to the QAT it is called Styles ... From that dialog you can set the display options. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Mark Tangard wrote: Well, that's pretty upsetting. I can't imagine all the style-using folks I used to know here in pre-2007 days have just shrugged this off. Is there a new recommended way to manage text formatting in 2007 that I don't know about? Is our only option to downgrade this machine back to 2003? It's not very usable this way. Just realized I didn't try a Detect/Repair; will do that & post back. Mark Stefan Blom wrote: FWIW, I have seen this as well. As far as I know, there is no fix or workaround available. :-( -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Mark Tangard" wrote in message ... We were confounded by MS's decision to remove the Style box from the default interface in 2007, but were able to add it to the QAT using the Customize dialog. Just recently it seems to have lost its innards. When you click its drop-down arrow you get a long dropdown list as before, but it's *empty* except for one entry showing the style at the cursor. Nghghh?? Any ideas why this happens? Happens in every doc. Typing a style's name or alias in the box applies it, as it should. But that only works if you've memorized them! Tried removing & re-adding the Style box to the QAT, no change. Help?? MT |
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Interesting... I see that I have 7 blank table styles between Comment Text
and Date. They're all the ones whose names begin "Dark List". I've never notice them before... I've never used these particular styles (too ugly). So, I don't know if they've been missing all along. They're also blank on my laptop. I wonder if this is a function of the styles themselves... perhaps they use white text, and that's why they appear blank. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... Actually, yesterday afternoon I realized that some of the table styles are back to showing as blank entries in the Style drop down. sigh I guess I will have to continue looking at this, when I can find the time for it. |
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I have noticed those styles too, as I wrote in another message. I have
assumed that they are a first step towards a Style drop down filled with blank entries, but since they do seem to make use of white text, maybe your guess is correct. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... Interesting... I see that I have 7 blank table styles between Comment Text and Date. They're all the ones whose names begin "Dark List". I've never notice them before... I've never used these particular styles (too ugly). So, I don't know if they've been missing all along. They're also blank on my laptop. I wonder if this is a function of the styles themselves... perhaps they use white text, and that's why they appear blank. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... Actually, yesterday afternoon I realized that some of the table styles are back to showing as blank entries in the Style drop down. sigh I guess I will have to continue looking at this, when I can find the time for it. |
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