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Chapter and page number in right margin
Hello,
I am formatting a document and want to add the chapter's name and the page number in the margin, using Word 2003. I want to do like in magazines, where you have the text in the middle and the article's name in the margin (vertical text). Each chapter would be at a different place, allowing easy navigation through the text (like phone books) Here's a quick example of what I want. [ Article text ] [ Article text ] c [ Article text ] h [ Article text ] a [ Article text ] p [ Article text ] t [ Article text ] e [ Article text ] r [ Article text ] [ Article text ] V [ Article text ] [ Article text ] [ Article text ] p. 10 I don't want to go the publisher way, as the whole thesis is in word and I don't want to start over. Any idea? Best, Ed. |
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Hi Ed.,
Side note: Is this really a thesis? As in, for an academic degree? It's more common, with theses, to print the chapter title in the header. Theses also tend to have specific formatting requirements, especially about margins, so make sure this request doesn't contravene them before you put effort into it. Arguably, a chapter title in the top right header would be easier for people to use. People are quite accustomed to looking at the top right to navigate dictionaries and phone books. When the edge is used, it is usually accompanied by either cutouts on the page edge (e.g., in dictionaries), or by solid color changes right up to the page edge, which is difficult to accomplish in Word. People are not, however, particularly accustomed to reading letters stacked on top of each other, though you could probably do sideways text--which again, demands a head tilt to read. I just looked at the various magazines and phone books around my apt, and don't see any of them using this style consistently. In short, I'm asking "why bother?" I don't think this would be very difficult to do, but it seems like a fancy visual trick that doesn't actually make life any easier for the reader. If your aim is to allow easy navigation, I'm not sure this is the best approach. If you must do it, consider using chapter titles as well--seeing "chapter 5" in the margin, again, does not really provide enough information to tell a reader *this* is the place she wants (unless she already studied the TOC, in which case it's easier for her to flip to the page number and ignore the marginal text). Re your original request--Investigate anchoring a frame or text box in the header of each chapter, though I'm not very familiar with either and someone else may suggest a better method. I'd experiment on a COPY of the document until you get it all perfected. On 10/9/06 9:05 AM, " wrote: Hello, I am formatting a document and want to add the chapter's name and the page number in the margin, using Word 2003. I want to do like in magazines, where you have the text in the middle and the article's name in the margin (vertical text). Each chapter would be at a different place, allowing easy navigation through the text (like phone books) Here's a quick example of what I want. [ Article text ] [ Article text ] c [ Article text ] h [ Article text ] a [ Article text ] p [ Article text ] t [ Article text ] e [ Article text ] r [ Article text ] [ Article text ] V [ Article text ] [ Article text ] [ Article text ] p. 10 I don't want to go the publisher way, as the whole thesis is in word and I don't want to start over. Any idea? Best, Ed. -- Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/ MacWord Tips: http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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Hello Daiya,
Is this really a thesis? As in, for an academic degree? It's more common, with theses, to print the chapter title in the header. Theses also tend to have specific formatting requirements, especially about margins, so make sure this request doesn't contravene them before you put effort into it. It is, indeed. I did read the rules and there is no issue with using these in the right margin. Arguably, a chapter title in the top right header would be easier for people to use. People are quite accustomed to looking at the top right to navigate dictionaries and phone books. When the edge is used, it is usually accompanied by either cutouts on the page edge (e.g., in dictionaries), or by solid color changes right up to the page edge, which is difficult to accomplish in Word. I agree with you on usability, but as many tables and graphics are used in an horizontal page layout, it made more sense to use this kind, with solid color changes. Think of it more like a sexy thesis layout than a strict one. People are not, however, particularly accustomed to reading letters stacked on top of each other, though you could probably do sideways text--which again, demands a head tilt to read. I want to do sideway text, but you'll convene that it is a bit hard to do in ASCII! My example wasn't correct in that regard. I just looked at the various magazines and phone books around my apt, and don't see any of them using this style consistently. In short, I'm asking "why bother?" I don't think this would be very difficult to do, but it seems like a fancy visual trick that doesn't actually make life any easier for the reader. If your aim is to allow easy navigation, I'm not sure this is the best approach. I unfortunately tend to disagree, as it is widely used in my field of study, both within papers and academic journals. If you must do it, consider using chapter titles as well--seeing "chapter 5" in the margin, again, does not really provide enough information to tell a reader *this* is the place she wants (unless she already studied the TOC, in which case it's easier for her to flip to the page number and ignore the marginal text). It would actually read the actual title such as "Methodology" "Results of short term regressions" "Results of long term regressions" "Discussion". A lot of the sections will be similar in terms of content and look, but aimed at proving different hypothesis and the TOC is following a strict standard. I do understand your concerns, but still believe it is the most effective way of achieving the results, considering usability, visual impact and rules applying. Re your original request--Investigate anchoring a frame or text box in the header of each chapter, though I'm not very familiar with either and someone else may suggest a better method. I'd experiment on a COPY of the document until you get it all perfected. I just tried the text box and it does the trick. Never thought of using it out of the header of footer per se, but indeed, good tip! Thanks again for your comments, which although did not apply, might help someone help who has to follow stricter rules! Cheers, Ed. |
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Chapter and page number in right margin
See http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/ThumbIndex.htm
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. wrote in message oups.com... Hello, I am formatting a document and want to add the chapter's name and the page number in the margin, using Word 2003. I want to do like in magazines, where you have the text in the middle and the article's name in the margin (vertical text). Each chapter would be at a different place, allowing easy navigation through the text (like phone books) Here's a quick example of what I want. [ Article text ] [ Article text ] c [ Article text ] h [ Article text ] a [ Article text ] p [ Article text ] t [ Article text ] e [ Article text ] r [ Article text ] [ Article text ] V [ Article text ] [ Article text ] [ Article text ] p. 10 I don't want to go the publisher way, as the whole thesis is in word and I don't want to start over. Any idea? Best, Ed. |
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Hi Ed.,
On 10/9/06 10:08 AM, " wrote: I agree with you on usability, but as many tables and graphics are used in an horizontal page layout, it made more sense to use this kind, with solid color changes. Think of it more like a sexy thesis layout than a strict one. Ah....the presence of many horizontal pages changes the issue--I deal mostly in text-heavy theses. Thanks for the thoughtful response. I forgot Suzanne had a page all setup for this. And Suzanne's mock up looks far more user-friendly than yours, bound by ASCII. I believe when my thesis was bound, the paper on the right was trimmed. You may wind up with solid color bleeding to the margin after all, making it very user-friendly. -- Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/ MacWord Tips: http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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Actually my article is quite new, published October 3.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Daiya Mitchell" wrote in message .. . Hi Ed., On 10/9/06 10:08 AM, " wrote: I agree with you on usability, but as many tables and graphics are used in an horizontal page layout, it made more sense to use this kind, with solid color changes. Think of it more like a sexy thesis layout than a strict one. Ah....the presence of many horizontal pages changes the issue--I deal mostly in text-heavy theses. Thanks for the thoughtful response. I forgot Suzanne had a page all setup for this. And Suzanne's mock up looks far more user-friendly than yours, bound by ASCII. I believe when my thesis was bound, the paper on the right was trimmed. You may wind up with solid color bleeding to the margin after all, making it very user-friendly. -- Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/ MacWord Tips: http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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