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How to Open Template as Template NOT as '.doc' ?
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We have users that get themselves tangled up by going into Windows Explorer, opening a template via double clicking on it so it opens as a '.doc'. Then they go to save it, and it cannot be saved as a Template back to the same location and name. This causes constant problems for us in tech support. Is there a way to tweak settings so it does not matter whether they double click on the template name or Right-click / Open in the Explorer Window - it will still open the Template as a Template (.dot)? If they go into Word, click on Open and then they drill down to our custom Templates folder where there are only templates, and they either double click on one to open it, or highlight it and click on Open - I believe this part works to open the Template as a Template of the original Template name. This would help us greatly! Thank you in advance for your assistance. Kind regards, Cole |
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How to Open Template as Template NOT as '.doc' ?
If that is causing a problem, then almost certainly, your users should NOT
be opening templates. Seems to me like a bit of education is in order for all of you. That said, if you right click on a template in Windows explorer and select Open, the template will be opened. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP wrote in message oups.com... Background: We have users that get themselves tangled up by going into Windows Explorer, opening a template via double clicking on it so it opens as a '.doc'. Then they go to save it, and it cannot be saved as a Template back to the same location and name. This causes constant problems for us in tech support. Is there a way to tweak settings so it does not matter whether they double click on the template name or Right-click / Open in the Explorer Window - it will still open the Template as a Template (.dot)? If they go into Word, click on Open and then they drill down to our custom Templates folder where there are only templates, and they either double click on one to open it, or highlight it and click on Open - I believe this part works to open the Template as a Template of the original Template name. This would help us greatly! Thank you in advance for your assistance. Kind regards, Cole |
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How to Open Template as Template NOT as '.doc' ?
The way templates should be used is to create new documents. They should not
be opened to be used; but rather opened to be edited so that future documents based on the template will be different. Opening them for use is counter to Word's design and will cause you problems. For more on the different kinds of templates, tabs on the file new dialog, and locations of templates folders see http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. wrote in message oups.com... Background: We have users that get themselves tangled up by going into Windows Explorer, opening a template via double clicking on it so it opens as a '.doc'. Then they go to save it, and it cannot be saved as a Template back to the same location and name. This causes constant problems for us in tech support. Is there a way to tweak settings so it does not matter whether they double click on the template name or Right-click / Open in the Explorer Window - it will still open the Template as a Template (.dot)? If they go into Word, click on Open and then they drill down to our custom Templates folder where there are only templates, and they either double click on one to open it, or highlight it and click on Open - I believe this part works to open the Template as a Template of the original Template name. This would help us greatly! Thank you in advance for your assistance. Kind regards, Cole |
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How to Open Template as Template NOT as '.doc' ?
Doug - I don't think you read my post fully. I had already stated that
IF they right click on the template, then yes, it opens as a template. Problem is, end-users will do what they will do, and create constant issues for Tech Support to sort out. All issues will go away if we can get the template to open as a template REGARDLESS of how it is opened. The reason we must have them open templates as templates is because the templates are accessed by a third-party product (sdOffice) which passes data to the template to do a mail merge. Without using templates, the sdOffice application encounters constant messages of the document being in use... We already know it SHOULD be as simple as being a training issue, but our hands are tied. As Tech Support, we are told we must help them do things in the wrong way. So again, all our problems go away if we can perhaps parameterize the Open to always open the Template as Template - EVEN if the end-user uses Windows Explorer, and double-clicks on the document name (which currently opens it as an unnamed '.doc' - as Templates are typically expected to do.) Thanks again. Kind regards, Cole Doug Robbins - Word MVP wrote: If that is causing a problem, then almost certainly, your users should NOT be opening templates. Seems to me like a bit of education is in order for all of you. That said, if you right click on a template in Windows explorer and select Open, the template will be opened. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP wrote in message oups.com... Background: We have users that get themselves tangled up by going into Windows Explorer, opening a template via double clicking on it so it opens as a '.doc'. Then they go to save it, and it cannot be saved as a Template back to the same location and name. This causes constant problems for us in tech support. Is there a way to tweak settings so it does not matter whether they double click on the template name or Right-click / Open in the Explorer Window - it will still open the Template as a Template (.dot)? If they go into Word, click on Open and then they drill down to our custom Templates folder where there are only templates, and they either double click on one to open it, or highlight it and click on Open - I believe this part works to open the Template as a Template of the original Template name. This would help us greatly! Thank you in advance for your assistance. Kind regards, Cole |
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How to Open Template as Template NOT as '.doc' ?
Hi Charles. Yes, I am aware of what you're saying. Please see my
explanation in posting #3 of this set as to why we are using Templates in this way. We are constrained by circumstance, and opening Templates as Templates, and then saving them back again as the same Template name solves a constant problem. Kind regards, Cole Charles Kenyon wrote: The way templates should be used is to create new documents. They should not be opened to be used; but rather opened to be edited so that future documents based on the template will be different. Opening them for use is counter to Word's design and will cause you problems. For more on the different kinds of templates, tabs on the file new dialog, and locations of templates folders see http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. wrote in message oups.com... Background: We have users that get themselves tangled up by going into Windows Explorer, opening a template via double clicking on it so it opens as a '.doc'. Then they go to save it, and it cannot be saved as a Template back to the same location and name. This causes constant problems for us in tech support. Is there a way to tweak settings so it does not matter whether they double click on the template name or Right-click / Open in the Explorer Window - it will still open the Template as a Template (.dot)? If they go into Word, click on Open and then they drill down to our custom Templates folder where there are only templates, and they either double click on one to open it, or highlight it and click on Open - I believe this part works to open the Template as a Template of the original Template name. This would help us greatly! Thank you in advance for your assistance. Kind regards, Cole |
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How to Open Template as Template NOT as '.doc' ?
Read the first sentence of my response.
-- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP wrote in message ps.com... Doug - I don't think you read my post fully. I had already stated that IF they right click on the template, then yes, it opens as a template. Problem is, end-users will do what they will do, and create constant issues for Tech Support to sort out. All issues will go away if we can get the template to open as a template REGARDLESS of how it is opened. The reason we must have them open templates as templates is because the templates are accessed by a third-party product (sdOffice) which passes data to the template to do a mail merge. Without using templates, the sdOffice application encounters constant messages of the document being in use... We already know it SHOULD be as simple as being a training issue, but our hands are tied. As Tech Support, we are told we must help them do things in the wrong way. So again, all our problems go away if we can perhaps parameterize the Open to always open the Template as Template - EVEN if the end-user uses Windows Explorer, and double-clicks on the document name (which currently opens it as an unnamed '.doc' - as Templates are typically expected to do.) Thanks again. Kind regards, Cole Doug Robbins - Word MVP wrote: If that is causing a problem, then almost certainly, your users should NOT be opening templates. Seems to me like a bit of education is in order for all of you. That said, if you right click on a template in Windows explorer and select Open, the template will be opened. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP wrote in message oups.com... Background: We have users that get themselves tangled up by going into Windows Explorer, opening a template via double clicking on it so it opens as a '.doc'. Then they go to save it, and it cannot be saved as a Template back to the same location and name. This causes constant problems for us in tech support. Is there a way to tweak settings so it does not matter whether they double click on the template name or Right-click / Open in the Explorer Window - it will still open the Template as a Template (.dot)? If they go into Word, click on Open and then they drill down to our custom Templates folder where there are only templates, and they either double click on one to open it, or highlight it and click on Open - I believe this part works to open the Template as a Template of the original Template name. This would help us greatly! Thank you in advance for your assistance. Kind regards, Cole |
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How to Open Template as Template NOT as '.doc' ?
You should be taking this up with whoever perpetrates sdOffice.
-- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP wrote in message ups.com... Hi Charles. Yes, I am aware of what you're saying. Please see my explanation in posting #3 of this set as to why we are using Templates in this way. We are constrained by circumstance, and opening Templates as Templates, and then saving them back again as the same Template name solves a constant problem. Kind regards, Cole Charles Kenyon wrote: The way templates should be used is to create new documents. They should not be opened to be used; but rather opened to be edited so that future documents based on the template will be different. Opening them for use is counter to Word's design and will cause you problems. For more on the different kinds of templates, tabs on the file new dialog, and locations of templates folders see http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. wrote in message oups.com... Background: We have users that get themselves tangled up by going into Windows Explorer, opening a template via double clicking on it so it opens as a '.doc'. Then they go to save it, and it cannot be saved as a Template back to the same location and name. This causes constant problems for us in tech support. Is there a way to tweak settings so it does not matter whether they double click on the template name or Right-click / Open in the Explorer Window - it will still open the Template as a Template (.dot)? If they go into Word, click on Open and then they drill down to our custom Templates folder where there are only templates, and they either double click on one to open it, or highlight it and click on Open - I believe this part works to open the Template as a Template of the original Template name. This would help us greatly! Thank you in advance for your assistance. Kind regards, Cole |
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How to Open Template as Template NOT as '.doc' ?
We have - they say "buy the new version that resolves this issue."
This will happen some time in the future. For now, our hands are tied and I'm looking for a solution with what we've got. Is there, perchance, a parameter that can be set in Windows Explorer: - Under Folder Options - File Types tab - For 'DOT Microsoft Word Template' - Advanced - Open - Edit - Application used to perform action - "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\WINWORD.EXE" /n /dde %1 Note - I saw one posting (of another conversation) that seemed to suggest it might be to get rid of the '/n' parameter and replace it with a '/t' - I tried this, but it did not seem to make a difference. I tried: "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\WINWORD.EXE" /t /dde %1 again, to no avail. Isn't there a parameter here where I can tell it to open the Template as a Template? If there was, it would solve all our problems. Thanks all, Cole Doug Robbins - Word MVP wrote: You should be taking this up with whoever perpetrates sdOffice. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP wrote in message ups.com... Hi Charles. Yes, I am aware of what you're saying. Please see my explanation in posting #3 of this set as to why we are using Templates in this way. We are constrained by circumstance, and opening Templates as Templates, and then saving them back again as the same Template name solves a constant problem. Kind regards, Cole Charles Kenyon wrote: The way templates should be used is to create new documents. They should not be opened to be used; but rather opened to be edited so that future documents based on the template will be different. Opening them for use is counter to Word's design and will cause you problems. For more on the different kinds of templates, tabs on the file new dialog, and locations of templates folders see http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. wrote in message oups.com... Background: We have users that get themselves tangled up by going into Windows Explorer, opening a template via double clicking on it so it opens as a '.doc'. Then they go to save it, and it cannot be saved as a Template back to the same location and name. This causes constant problems for us in tech support. Is there a way to tweak settings so it does not matter whether they double click on the template name or Right-click / Open in the Explorer Window - it will still open the Template as a Template (.dot)? If they go into Word, click on Open and then they drill down to our custom Templates folder where there are only templates, and they either double click on one to open it, or highlight it and click on Open - I believe this part works to open the Template as a Template of the original Template name. This would help us greatly! Thank you in advance for your assistance. Kind regards, Cole |
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How to Open Template as Template NOT as '.doc' ?
Hi Cole,
In case you missed it, go look at my reply in the other branch of this thread. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. On 26 Jun 2006 14:35:56 -0700, wrote: We have - they say "buy the new version that resolves this issue." This will happen some time in the future. For now, our hands are tied and I'm looking for a solution with what we've got. Is there, perchance, a parameter that can be set in Windows Explorer: - Under Folder Options - File Types tab - For 'DOT Microsoft Word Template' - Advanced - Open - Edit - Application used to perform action - "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\WINWORD.EXE" /n /dde %1 Note - I saw one posting (of another conversation) that seemed to suggest it might be to get rid of the '/n' parameter and replace it with a '/t' - I tried this, but it did not seem to make a difference. I tried: "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\WINWORD.EXE" /t /dde %1 again, to no avail. Isn't there a parameter here where I can tell it to open the Template as a Template? If there was, it would solve all our problems. Thanks all, Cole Doug Robbins - Word MVP wrote: You should be taking this up with whoever perpetrates sdOffice. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP wrote in message ups.com... Hi Charles. Yes, I am aware of what you're saying. Please see my explanation in posting #3 of this set as to why we are using Templates in this way. We are constrained by circumstance, and opening Templates as Templates, and then saving them back again as the same Template name solves a constant problem. Kind regards, Cole Charles Kenyon wrote: The way templates should be used is to create new documents. They should not be opened to be used; but rather opened to be edited so that future documents based on the template will be different. Opening them for use is counter to Word's design and will cause you problems. For more on the different kinds of templates, tabs on the file new dialog, and locations of templates folders see http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. wrote in message oups.com... Background: We have users that get themselves tangled up by going into Windows Explorer, opening a template via double clicking on it so it opens as a '.doc'. Then they go to save it, and it cannot be saved as a Template back to the same location and name. This causes constant problems for us in tech support. Is there a way to tweak settings so it does not matter whether they double click on the template name or Right-click / Open in the Explorer Window - it will still open the Template as a Template (.dot)? If they go into Word, click on Open and then they drill down to our custom Templates folder where there are only templates, and they either double click on one to open it, or highlight it and click on Open - I believe this part works to open the Template as a Template of the original Template name. This would help us greatly! Thank you in advance for your assistance. Kind regards, Cole |
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