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Sans Serif Won't Word Wrap
In Office 2007, when I start a new document and select the Sans Serif font it
will not word wrap. When I'm typing and get close to the right margin, it breaks the word apart instead of carrying the whole word to the next line. All other fonts work fine. Any ideas? |
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Can and will you tell us exactly which font it is: it's name, filename,
source? There are a few fonts "out there" whose font files incorrectly identify them as "symbol" fonts. Symbol fonts are not intended to be used for text; therefore, line breaks are allowed within character groups. That allows line breaks within words. The solution is to use another font for the text. Alternately, you could open the font file in a font editor and change that designation. Then, remake the font file. Tom MSMVP 1998-2007 "chemexchange" wrote in message ... In Office 2007, when I start a new document and select the Sans Serif font it will not word wrap. When I'm typing and get close to the right margin, it breaks the word apart instead of carrying the whole word to the next line. All other fonts work fine. Any ideas? |
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Sans Serif Won't Word Wrap
I'm using WinXP SP2 and in the Windows\Font directory the name of the font is
SansSerif (True Type). The name of the file is sanss__.ttf, with a file size of 53k and date of 9/18/1996. I ran the TweakUI program to repair the Font folder hoping that would fix it, but no luck. I can use any other font, including Microsoft Sans Serif font and it works fine. Just not regular ole sans serif. Is there a particular reason some fonts in the Windows\Font folder have multiple underscores in their file naming? "Tom Ferguson" wrote: Can and will you tell us exactly which font it is: it's name, filename, source? There are a few fonts "out there" whose font files incorrectly identify them as "symbol" fonts. Symbol fonts are not intended to be used for text; therefore, line breaks are allowed within character groups. That allows line breaks within words. The solution is to use another font for the text. Alternately, you could open the font file in a font editor and change that designation. Then, remake the font file. Tom MSMVP 1998-2007 "chemexchange" wrote in message ... In Office 2007, when I start a new document and select the Sans Serif font it will not word wrap. When I'm typing and get close to the right margin, it breaks the word apart instead of carrying the whole word to the next line. All other fonts work fine. Any ideas? |
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So far, I have not been able to trace a font with the file name sanss___.ttf
to test. Are there files ion the directory for italic, bold, or bold italic versions of the font? ---------- I am not surprised that "fixing" the font folder did not help. A patient goes in his doctor's office. When the doctor entered the examining room, the patient said, "When I raise my arm over my shoulder like this, my shoulder hurts." After a few moments contemplation, the doctor replied, "Don't raise your arm like that." Translation: Don't use the font. (Unless you have and know how to use a font editor to fix the file.) As for the underscores: in the days of the Microsoft Disk Operating System (MSDOS), used from the days of the first IBM PC types until Windows NT platforms became common, filenames had 11 characters in 8.3 format. The first 8 characters specified the unique file name and the three characters after the dot indicated file type. E.g. doc for Microsoft Word files, exe for executable program files, &c Tom MSMVP 1998-2007 "chemexchange" wrote in message ... I'm using WinXP SP2 and in the Windows\Font directory the name of the font is SansSerif (True Type). The name of the file is sanss__.ttf, with a file size of 53k and date of 9/18/1996. I ran the TweakUI program to repair the Font folder hoping that would fix it, but no luck. I can use any other font, including Microsoft Sans Serif font and it works fine. Just not regular ole sans serif. Is there a particular reason some fonts in the Windows\Font folder have multiple underscores in their file naming? "Tom Ferguson" wrote: Can and will you tell us exactly which font it is: it's name, filename, source? There are a few fonts "out there" whose font files incorrectly identify them as "symbol" fonts. Symbol fonts are not intended to be used for text; therefore, line breaks are allowed within character groups. That allows line breaks within words. The solution is to use another font for the text. Alternately, you could open the font file in a font editor and change that designation. Then, remake the font file. Tom MSMVP 1998-2007 "chemexchange" wrote in message ... In Office 2007, when I start a new document and select the Sans Serif font it will not word wrap. When I'm typing and get close to the right margin, it breaks the word apart instead of carrying the whole word to the next line. All other fonts work fine. Any ideas? |
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Sans Serif Won't Word Wrap
CyberTaz,
Thanks for the answer. That is exactly what happened. The way this came about was one of our professors at the university was submitting a proposal to an agency. The agency required the use of the "Sans Serif" font. When the prof tried using the font he got the word wrap problem. I saw the Microsoft Sans Serif font in the list, tried it and it worked fine. So, I just told him to start using that and that I seriously doubted the agency would deny his submission on using the Microsoft Sans Serif font. "CyberTaz" wrote: Do you - or did you ever - have AutoCad installed? What you're attempting to use (I believe) is a character construction tool used by that program... If you want the "boring details" have a look he http://www4.dogus.edu.tr/bim/bil_kay...cad14/ch16.htm I'm not even sure why it should show up in Word's font list, but I'd definitely stay away from it:-) HTH |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 1/11/08 4:40 PM, in article , "chemexchange" wrote: I'm using WinXP SP2 and in the Windows\Font directory the name of the font is SansSerif (True Type). The name of the file is sanss__.ttf, with a file size of 53k and date of 9/18/1996. I ran the TweakUI program to repair the Font folder hoping that would fix it, but no luck. I can use any other font, including Microsoft Sans Serif font and it works fine. Just not regular ole sans serif. Is there a particular reason some fonts in the Windows\Font folder have multiple underscores in their file naming? "Tom Ferguson" wrote: Can and will you tell us exactly which font it is: it's name, filename, source? There are a few fonts "out there" whose font files incorrectly identify them as "symbol" fonts. Symbol fonts are not intended to be used for text; therefore, line breaks are allowed within character groups. That allows line breaks within words. The solution is to use another font for the text. Alternately, you could open the font file in a font editor and change that designation. Then, remake the font file. Tom MSMVP 1998-2007 "chemexchange" wrote in message ... In Office 2007, when I start a new document and select the Sans Serif font it will not word wrap. When I'm typing and get close to the right margin, it breaks the word apart instead of carrying the whole word to the next line. All other fonts work fine. Any ideas? |
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Well, while I'm glad you reached a satisfactory solution, I am still very
puzzled by various aspects of this. Not that my puzzlement need worry anyone. Perhaps the agency required a Sans Serif font as opposed to the Sans Serif font. In which case there are many fonts that would be acceptable to them: e.g. Frutiger, Futura, Avenir, Universe. There is a Microsoft Sans Serif but note that there is no bold, italic or bold italic file for it so those styles are produced by the rasteriser if requested. The result might not be ideal on all printers. I did check through the AutoCad connection but made no headway on it. Cybertaz mentioned his doubt about a tool showing up on the font list as opposed to a font. In this we share. I have a vague recollection of a font, with a similar if not the same name, supplied as a sample font with a font creation/editing tool. Perhaps there is a connection there. Anyway, aside from curiosity, no matter. Tom MSMVP 1998-2007 "chemexchange" wrote in message ... CyberTaz, Thanks for the answer. That is exactly what happened. The way this came about was one of our professors at the university was submitting a proposal to an agency. The agency required the use of the "Sans Serif" font. When the prof tried using the font he got the word wrap problem. I saw the Microsoft Sans Serif font in the list, tried it and it worked fine. So, I just told him to start using that and that I seriously doubted the agency would deny his submission on using the Microsoft Sans Serif font. "CyberTaz" wrote: Do you - or did you ever - have AutoCad installed? What you're attempting to use (I believe) is a character construction tool used by that program... If you want the "boring details" have a look he http://www4.dogus.edu.tr/bim/bil_kay...cad14/ch16.htm I'm not even sure why it should show up in Word's font list, but I'd definitely stay away from it:-) HTH |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 1/11/08 4:40 PM, in article , "chemexchange" wrote: I'm using WinXP SP2 and in the Windows\Font directory the name of the font is SansSerif (True Type). The name of the file is sanss__.ttf, with a file size of 53k and date of 9/18/1996. I ran the TweakUI program to repair the Font folder hoping that would fix it, but no luck. I can use any other font, including Microsoft Sans Serif font and it works fine. Just not regular ole sans serif. Is there a particular reason some fonts in the Windows\Font folder have multiple underscores in their file naming? "Tom Ferguson" wrote: Can and will you tell us exactly which font it is: it's name, filename, source? There are a few fonts "out there" whose font files incorrectly identify them as "symbol" fonts. Symbol fonts are not intended to be used for text; therefore, line breaks are allowed within character groups. That allows line breaks within words. The solution is to use another font for the text. Alternately, you could open the font file in a font editor and change that designation. Then, remake the font file. Tom MSMVP 1998-2007 "chemexchange" wrote in message ... In Office 2007, when I start a new document and select the Sans Serif font it will not word wrap. When I'm typing and get close to the right margin, it breaks the word apart instead of carrying the whole word to the next line. All other fonts work fine. Any ideas? |
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Honestly, I just use whatever the default font is in Word. So, personally,
I've never had any font problems or even changed from the default font for I don't know how many untold years. The professor having the problem came to me in a panic. He just needed the sans serif font to work. Of course, I had no idea what the sans serif font was, except that it meant "without serif". He had started a doc and while typing noticed it wasn't word wrapping. He then came to me with the problem. He emailed me a copy of his doc, so I opened it on my computer and sure enought was having the same problem. If you tried to highlight the existing text and change it to another font (didn't matter which one), all existing text would turn to ascii characters! I checked the Windows\Font folder and there are four different sans serif fonts listed: sanss___.ttf sanssb__.ttf sanssbo_.ttf sanssso__.ttf I'm confused at to what happened also, but I told the prof to use any sans serif font and not "the sans serif" font listed in the drop down list. Thanks for all your efforts. "Tom Ferguson" wrote: Well, while I'm glad you reached a satisfactory solution, I am still very puzzled by various aspects of this. Not that my puzzlement need worry anyone. Perhaps the agency required a Sans Serif font as opposed to the Sans Serif font. In which case there are many fonts that would be acceptable to them: e.g. Frutiger, Futura, Avenir, Universe. There is a Microsoft Sans Serif but note that there is no bold, italic or bold italic file for it so those styles are produced by the rasteriser if requested. The result might not be ideal on all printers. I did check through the AutoCad connection but made no headway on it. Cybertaz mentioned his doubt about a tool showing up on the font list as opposed to a font. In this we share. I have a vague recollection of a font, with a similar if not the same name, supplied as a sample font with a font creation/editing tool. Perhaps there is a connection there. Anyway, aside from curiosity, no matter. Tom MSMVP 1998-2007 "chemexchange" wrote in message ... CyberTaz, Thanks for the answer. That is exactly what happened. The way this came about was one of our professors at the university was submitting a proposal to an agency. The agency required the use of the "Sans Serif" font. When the prof tried using the font he got the word wrap problem. I saw the Microsoft Sans Serif font in the list, tried it and it worked fine. So, I just told him to start using that and that I seriously doubted the agency would deny his submission on using the Microsoft Sans Serif font. "CyberTaz" wrote: Do you - or did you ever - have AutoCad installed? What you're attempting to use (I believe) is a character construction tool used by that program... If you want the "boring details" have a look he http://www4.dogus.edu.tr/bim/bil_kay...cad14/ch16.htm I'm not even sure why it should show up in Word's font list, but I'd definitely stay away from it:-) HTH |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 1/11/08 4:40 PM, in article , "chemexchange" wrote: I'm using WinXP SP2 and in the Windows\Font directory the name of the font is SansSerif (True Type). The name of the file is sanss__.ttf, with a file size of 53k and date of 9/18/1996. I ran the TweakUI program to repair the Font folder hoping that would fix it, but no luck. I can use any other font, including Microsoft Sans Serif font and it works fine. Just not regular ole sans serif. Is there a particular reason some fonts in the Windows\Font folder have multiple underscores in their file naming? "Tom Ferguson" wrote: Can and will you tell us exactly which font it is: it's name, filename, source? There are a few fonts "out there" whose font files incorrectly identify them as "symbol" fonts. Symbol fonts are not intended to be used for text; therefore, line breaks are allowed within character groups. That allows line breaks within words. The solution is to use another font for the text. Alternately, you could open the font file in a font editor and change that designation. Then, remake the font file. Tom MSMVP 1998-2007 "chemexchange" wrote in message ... In Office 2007, when I start a new document and select the Sans Serif font it will not word wrap. When I'm typing and get close to the right margin, it breaks the word apart instead of carrying the whole word to the next line. All other fonts work fine. Any ideas? |
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Thanks for the additional information.
In particular, "If you tried to highlight the existing text and change it to another font (didn't matter which one), all existing text would turn to ascii characters!" indicates a problem that is usually referred to as an encoding issue. As you might be aware, as you keyboard, the text is stored as a series of codes. These codes are mapped to glyphs in a font file according to a rule set. In certain circumstances which are most commonly seen if a document is created in one language version and rendered on another, problems occur. I have no idea what triggered the problem in this case. However, there is a macro available from the Microsoft Download site that fixes that problem. It fixes the encoding and changes ever font occurrence to Arial. However, after the repair, you can then successfully select any font you want. http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/d...displaylang=en The macro was intended for a particular situation and a particular Word version; however, it is useful for other near-parallel situations. The Microsoft Sans Serif font has the file name micross.ttf. If you right mouse click on the file name, you can see the maker's name. I would be interesting to know what that is for the file set you list. Glad to be of assistance where and if possible. Tom MSMVP 1998-2007 "chemexchange" wrote in message ... Honestly, I just use whatever the default font is in Word. So, personally, I've never had any font problems or even changed from the default font for I don't know how many untold years. The professor having the problem came to me in a panic. He just needed the sans serif font to work. Of course, I had no idea what the sans serif font was, except that it meant "without serif". He had started a doc and while typing noticed it wasn't word wrapping. He then came to me with the problem. He emailed me a copy of his doc, so I opened it on my computer and sure enought was having the same problem. If you tried to highlight the existing text and change it to another font (didn't matter which one), all existing text would turn to ascii characters! I checked the Windows\Font folder and there are four different sans serif fonts listed: sanss___.ttf sanssb__.ttf sanssbo_.ttf sanssso__.ttf I'm confused at to what happened also, but I told the prof to use any sans serif font and not "the sans serif" font listed in the drop down list. Thanks for all your efforts. "Tom Ferguson" wrote: Well, while I'm glad you reached a satisfactory solution, I am still very puzzled by various aspects of this. Not that my puzzlement need worry anyone. Perhaps the agency required a Sans Serif font as opposed to the Sans Serif font. In which case there are many fonts that would be acceptable to them: e.g. Frutiger, Futura, Avenir, Universe. There is a Microsoft Sans Serif but note that there is no bold, italic or bold italic file for it so those styles are produced by the rasteriser if requested. The result might not be ideal on all printers. I did check through the AutoCad connection but made no headway on it. Cybertaz mentioned his doubt about a tool showing up on the font list as opposed to a font. In this we share. I have a vague recollection of a font, with a similar if not the same name, supplied as a sample font with a font creation/editing tool. Perhaps there is a connection there. Anyway, aside from curiosity, no matter. Tom MSMVP 1998-2007 "chemexchange" wrote in message ... CyberTaz, Thanks for the answer. That is exactly what happened. The way this came about was one of our professors at the university was submitting a proposal to an agency. The agency required the use of the "Sans Serif" font. When the prof tried using the font he got the word wrap problem. I saw the Microsoft Sans Serif font in the list, tried it and it worked fine. So, I just told him to start using that and that I seriously doubted the agency would deny his submission on using the Microsoft Sans Serif font. "CyberTaz" wrote: Do you - or did you ever - have AutoCad installed? What you're attempting to use (I believe) is a character construction tool used by that program... If you want the "boring details" have a look he http://www4.dogus.edu.tr/bim/bil_kay...cad14/ch16.htm I'm not even sure why it should show up in Word's font list, but I'd definitely stay away from it:-) HTH |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 1/11/08 4:40 PM, in article , "chemexchange" wrote: I'm using WinXP SP2 and in the Windows\Font directory the name of the font is SansSerif (True Type). The name of the file is sanss__.ttf, with a file size of 53k and date of 9/18/1996. I ran the TweakUI program to repair the Font folder hoping that would fix it, but no luck. I can use any other font, including Microsoft Sans Serif font and it works fine. Just not regular ole sans serif. Is there a particular reason some fonts in the Windows\Font folder have multiple underscores in their file naming? "Tom Ferguson" wrote: Can and will you tell us exactly which font it is: it's name, filename, source? There are a few fonts "out there" whose font files incorrectly identify them as "symbol" fonts. Symbol fonts are not intended to be used for text; therefore, line breaks are allowed within character groups. That allows line breaks within words. The solution is to use another font for the text. Alternately, you could open the font file in a font editor and change that designation. Then, remake the font file. Tom MSMVP 1998-2007 "chemexchange" wrote in message ... In Office 2007, when I start a new document and select the Sans Serif font it will not word wrap. When I'm typing and get close to the right margin, it breaks the word apart instead of carrying the whole word to the next line. All other fonts work fine. Any ideas? |
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