FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
For starters, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil

I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved with
the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it would
make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the
template and make the change there it would be stored with the template. In
that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for
Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in
Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a
Language tab), since there are already settings there that are
language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If
there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format | Style
| Modify, that would be useful, too.

Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this feature,
and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for an
entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
For starters, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil

Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan.

Here's my experience:

You can create any custom template with any features you want -- except
Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you can't. Also,
you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That problem is
what I'm trying to get around.

Any ideas?

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved
with
the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it
would
make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the
template and make the change there it would be stored with the template.
In
that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for
Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in
Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a
Language tab), since there are already settings there that are
language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If
there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format |
Style
| Modify, that would be useful, too.

Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this
feature,
and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for
an
entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
For starters, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. You
cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work), but you
can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename it, then
it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you don't have
the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should be used;
see “You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in Word” at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan.

Here's my experience:

You can create any custom template with any features you want -- except
Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you can't. Also,
you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That problem
is
what I'm trying to get around.

Any ideas?

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see
anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved
with
the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it
would
make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the
template and make the change there it would be stored with the template.
In
that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for
Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in
Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a
Language tab), since there are already settings there that are
language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If
there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format |
Style
| Modify, that would be useful, too.

Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this
feature,
and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for
an
entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
For starters, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil

Suzanne...

I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing that first
before changing the style and "saving to template." But the same approach
doesn't work for hyphenation.

I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic hyphenation,
but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for myself. If
you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which allows you
to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select "Automatic
Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot doesn't show it
like it shows the page layout.

Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might?

Thanks again...

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
You
cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work), but you
can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename it,
then
it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you don't
have
the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should be
used;
see “You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in Word” at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan.

Here's my experience:

You can create any custom template with any features you want -- except
Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you can't.
Also,
you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That problem
is
what I'm trying to get around.

Any ideas?

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see
anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being
saved
with
the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it
would
make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the
template and make the change there it would be stored with the
template.
In
that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for
Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings
in
Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a
Language tab), since there are already settings there that are
language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document").
If
there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format |
Style
| Modify, that would be useful, too.

Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this
feature,
and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even
for
an
entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file
from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that
you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
For starters, see

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let
me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil

I just tested, and if I open normal.dot as a file, via FileOpen, I
can certainly enable hyphenation for it, save and then get hyphenation
enabled for each new blank document. I can't explain why it doesn't
work for you, though. A bug affecting certain releases of Word,
perhaps? In my opinion, the fact that other changes are allowed
supports this theory.

--
Stefan Blom


"Phil James" wrote:

Suzanne...

I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing that
first
before changing the style and "saving to template." But the same
approach
doesn't work for hyphenation.

I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic
hyphenation,
but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for
myself. If
you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which
allows you
to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select "Automatic
Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot doesn't
show it
like it shows the page layout.

Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might?

Thanks again...

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
You
cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work),
but you
can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename
it,
then
it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you
don't
have
the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should
be
used;
see “You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in
Word” at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan.

Here's my experience:

You can create any custom template with any features you want --
except
Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you
can't.
Also,
you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That
problem
is
what I'm trying to get around.

Any ideas?

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't
see
anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is
being
saved
with
the document or that there is any way to save it in a
template. But it
would
make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you
open the
template and make the change there it would be stored with the
template.
In
that case, there is no reason that it should be any different
for
Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation
settings
in
Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could
become a
Language tab), since there are already settings there that are
language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this
document").
If
there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in
Format |
Style
| Modify, that would be useful, too.

Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with
this
feature,
and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set
it even
for
an
entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the
Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the
hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new
file
from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are
saying that
you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
For starters, see

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the
Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other
things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page
different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word
won't let
me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil