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I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute.
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There is no "autosave" in Word. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!
To think for years I have been relying on this - to no avail. Ignorance is NOT (now) bliss!!! Why don't Microsoft make this clearer? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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They think they did make it clear. :-(
Dan "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh! To think for years I have been relying on this - to no avail. Ignorance is NOT (now) bliss!!! Why don't Microsoft make this clearer? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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That really helps!!!! but I can't believe I'm the only plonker to fall for
this, am I? Have a great day. Roy "Dan Freeman" wrote: They think they did make it clear. :-( Dan "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh! To think for years I have been relying on this - to no avail. Ignorance is NOT (now) bliss!!! Why don't Microsoft make this clearer? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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No, you're not.
Hang around here and you'll see it come up almost daily. Dan "roybaylis" wrote in message ... That really helps!!!! but I can't believe I'm the only plonker to fall for this, am I? Have a great day. Roy "Dan Freeman" wrote: They think they did make it clear. :-( Dan "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh! To think for years I have been relying on this - to no avail. Ignorance is NOT (now) bliss!!! Why don't Microsoft make this clearer? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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ughhghgh are you sure there is absolutely NO way to set up auto save to avoid
losing documents due to a power blip or something?? "roybaylis" wrote: That really helps!!!! but I can't believe I'm the only plonker to fall for this, am I? Have a great day. Roy "Dan Freeman" wrote: They think they did make it clear. :-( Dan "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh! To think for years I have been relying on this - to no avail. Ignorance is NOT (now) bliss!!! Why don't Microsoft make this clearer? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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They did at least (many versions back) change the name from the deceptive
AutoSave to AutoRecover. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh! To think for years I have been relying on this - to no avail. Ignorance is NOT (now) bliss!!! Why don't Microsoft make this clearer? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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The option was called AutoSave at one point then it was changed to "Save
AutoRecover information". Do you have a suggestion that could help make it more clear? Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh! To think for years I have been relying on this - to no avail. Ignorance is NOT (now) bliss!!! Why don't Microsoft make this clearer? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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Hi Beth:
Yeah: Take it away! And bring back the old mechanism that used to work. If we must, rename the useless one to "Change logging." Because that's what it does: it logs the changes to a file. But only if the file has already been saved :-) Cheers On 16/1/07 2:55 PM, in article , "Beth Melton" wrote: The option was called AutoSave at one point then it was changed to "Save AutoRecover information". Do you have a suggestion that could help make it more clear? Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh! To think for years I have been relying on this - to no avail. Ignorance is NOT (now) bliss!!! Why don't Microsoft make this clearer? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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But it was never intended as a substitute for ordinary saving. Here is the
description of the feature from the Word 2.0 manual: "If you have Automatic Save selected, Word saves your document for you at specific intervals. If there's a power outage or system failure, you can retrieve your work from the autosave backup files. "The first time Word performs an autosave backup, it saves the entire document. For subsequent backups, Word saves only those parts of the document that have changed since the last save. The first autosave may take a moment, but later backups are fast and hardly noticeable as you work. Automatic Save dot not take the place of the Save or Save All commands. These commands completely save and update the versions of a document on disk each time you choose them. "Word creates autosave backup files as necessary. Any time you choose the Save command, Word deletes the autosave backup file for the document you're saving. Word creates the files again at the next autosave interval for documents active at that time. If you choose Save All *or quit Word*, Word deletes all of the autosave backup files." [Emphasis added.] This is no different from AutoRecover. If you intentionally closed a document or quit Word without saving, the autosave backup was deleted. The manual goes on to indicate that Word also saves you from losing your work by your computer's running out of memory and specifies that "in case of a power failure or other trouble with your computer, you can open an autosave backup file the next time you start Word." There is no indication that this was meant to be a substitute for manual saving or to protect users from negligence. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... Hi Beth: Yeah: Take it away! And bring back the old mechanism that used to work. If we must, rename the useless one to "Change logging." Because that's what it does: it logs the changes to a file. But only if the file has already been saved :-) Cheers On 16/1/07 2:55 PM, in article , "Beth Melton" wrote: The option was called AutoSave at one point then it was changed to "Save AutoRecover information". Do you have a suggestion that could help make it more clear? Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh! To think for years I have been relying on this - to no avail. Ignorance is NOT (now) bliss!!! Why don't Microsoft make this clearer? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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I agree with Suzanne, Word has never had an option to automatically save a
file without using the SaveReminder add-in. Additionally, I also have to disagree with you on how AutoRecover works. It doesn't use a log file, it creates a Word document and saves it just like any other document you would create and save. The document doesn't have to be saved in order for AutoRecover to save an autorecover copy. It creates a Word document each time the AutoRecover save kicks in but it's saved to your AutoRecover folder with an *.asd file extension. From what I've been able ascertain, it uses the same Save methods as when saving a document, i.e. build temp file, delete original (for subsequent saves), move temp file to orginal, delete temp file. The only difference is when you close the document Word will automatically delete the AutoRecovery save version. It may have worked differently in older versions, such as save only the modifications, but this is how it works now. (Note I shouldn't say "now" since I believe the AutoReover function has changed for Word 2007 - I'm still investigating it.) You can test this for yourself: - Create a new document (do not save it) - Wait for AutoRecover save (you'll see it in the status bar) - Check your AutoRecover folder and file the file. - Copy the autorecover file to another location (so Word doesn't delete it) - Change the file extension to *.doc and double-click to open it (or open it directly in Word) Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... Hi Beth: Yeah: Take it away! And bring back the old mechanism that used to work. If we must, rename the useless one to "Change logging." Because that's what it does: it logs the changes to a file. But only if the file has already been saved :-) Cheers On 16/1/07 2:55 PM, in article , "Beth Melton" wrote: The option was called AutoSave at one point then it was changed to "Save AutoRecover information". Do you have a suggestion that could help make it more clear? Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh! To think for years I have been relying on this - to no avail. Ignorance is NOT (now) bliss!!! Why don't Microsoft make this clearer? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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What about Crash Recovery - as that is what it really is?!
Roy "Beth Melton" wrote: The option was called AutoSave at one point then it was changed to "Save AutoRecover information". Do you have a suggestion that could help make it more clear? Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh! To think for years I have been relying on this - to no avail. Ignorance is NOT (now) bliss!!! Why don't Microsoft make this clearer? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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Dear Suzanne I think your comment "none of the options will protect you from your own imprudence, laziness, or folly!" is both unhelpful and misses the main point. This software is used so often by so many and it seems most of us have been caught by this happening at one time or another. Why on earth not fix it?! Isn't "user-friendly" part of the plan? Wouldn't that be a wINwIN SOLUTION?! Thanks Roy "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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It doesn't need 'fixing'. In Word 2003 (the most stable Word version so far)
it works quite effectively, but it is not foolproof. With your very short save time, it is quite likely that a crash would occur during a save operation and nothing would save you from that sort of data loss. Change it to 10 or 15 minutes. If you don't wipe up the mess after a crash you make further problems even more likely http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm No such measure negates the requirement to save your work often - yet we hear of people who have kept documents open for days without ever saving, then wonder why they have lost their work. The link to my web site referred to by others will post a solution that will force a save if you want, but I think you will quickly find it very irritating, just as a one minute autorecovery option would certainly interfere with my work flow. Get into the habit of using CTRL+S ever time you stop for thought. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org roybaylis wrote: Dear Suzanne I think your comment "none of the options will protect you from your own imprudence, laziness, or folly!" is both unhelpful and misses the main point. This software is used so often by so many and it seems most of us have been caught by this happening at one time or another. Why on earth not fix it?! Isn't "user-friendly" part of the plan? Wouldn't that be a wINwIN SOLUTION?! Thanks Roy "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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Thanks Graham - points taken and duly noted. I will change the time to 5
minutes, as a compromise! BUT I still think that, if the pople I know are anything like average, this has been and remains an ongoing issue - which could (and should) be fixed. Why not?!! "Graham Mayor" wrote: It doesn't need 'fixing'. In Word 2003 (the most stable Word version so far) it works quite effectively, but it is not foolproof. With your very short save time, it is quite likely that a crash would occur during a save operation and nothing would save you from that sort of data loss. Change it to 10 or 15 minutes. If you don't wipe up the mess after a crash you make further problems even more likely http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm No such measure negates the requirement to save your work often - yet we hear of people who have kept documents open for days without ever saving, then wonder why they have lost their work. The link to my web site referred to by others will post a solution that will force a save if you want, but I think you will quickly find it very irritating, just as a one minute autorecovery option would certainly interfere with my work flow. Get into the habit of using CTRL+S ever time you stop for thought. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org roybaylis wrote: Dear Suzanne I think your comment "none of the options will protect you from your own imprudence, laziness, or folly!" is both unhelpful and misses the main point. This software is used so often by so many and it seems most of us have been caught by this happening at one time or another. Why on earth not fix it?! Isn't "user-friendly" part of the plan? Wouldn't that be a wINwIN SOLUTION?! Thanks Roy "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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I stand by my statement. I think it is important to make users realize that
*they* are responsible for saving their work. Do you have the same expectations about the rest of your life, that "someone else" should protect you from the consequences of, say, paying your utility bill or insurance premium or filing your income tax return or brushing your teeth or buying the food you need for tomorrow or washing your dirty clothes or...? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Dear Suzanne I think your comment "none of the options will protect you from your own imprudence, laziness, or folly!" is both unhelpful and misses the main point. This software is used so often by so many and it seems most of us have been caught by this happening at one time or another. Why on earth not fix it?! Isn't "user-friendly" part of the plan? Wouldn't that be a wINwIN SOLUTION?! Thanks Roy "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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Dear Suzanne
That is an unreal comparison. When I BUY something, I expect it to work as well as possible and, if there is a known problem, for the manufacturer to fix it. if not, I simply buy another product! Why do you avoid the realissue - it is a problem for loads of people, has been for ages, and should be fixed. Why not?!!! Roy "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I stand by my statement. I think it is important to make users realize that *they* are responsible for saving their work. Do you have the same expectations about the rest of your life, that "someone else" should protect you from the consequences of, say, paying your utility bill or insurance premium or filing your income tax return or brushing your teeth or buying the food you need for tomorrow or washing your dirty clothes or...? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Dear Suzanne I think your comment "none of the options will protect you from your own imprudence, laziness, or folly!" is both unhelpful and misses the main point. This software is used so often by so many and it seems most of us have been caught by this happening at one time or another. Why on earth not fix it?! Isn't "user-friendly" part of the plan? Wouldn't that be a wINwIN SOLUTION?! Thanks Roy "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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But when you buy a product and use it contrary to the operating
instructions, what are your expectations? If you never changed the oil in your car (or filled it with gas), would you still expect it to run properly? I don't believe Microsoft has given you any reason to expect that your documents would be saved automatically. This would not happen in any other application (except for a few such as Microsoft Money, where every entry is saved as you enter it). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Dear Suzanne That is an unreal comparison. When I BUY something, I expect it to work as well as possible and, if there is a known problem, for the manufacturer to fix it. if not, I simply buy another product! Why do you avoid the realissue - it is a problem for loads of people, has been for ages, and should be fixed. Why not?!!! Roy "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I stand by my statement. I think it is important to make users realize that *they* are responsible for saving their work. Do you have the same expectations about the rest of your life, that "someone else" should protect you from the consequences of, say, paying your utility bill or insurance premium or filing your income tax return or brushing your teeth or buying the food you need for tomorrow or washing your dirty clothes or...? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Dear Suzanne I think your comment "none of the options will protect you from your own imprudence, laziness, or folly!" is both unhelpful and misses the main point. This software is used so often by so many and it seems most of us have been caught by this happening at one time or another. Why on earth not fix it?! Isn't "user-friendly" part of the plan? Wouldn't that be a wINwIN SOLUTION?! Thanks Roy "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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I think what needs to be put into perspective here is the unforeseen issues
that would occur if Word did automatically save documents. Consider the times you, or the many, many others, have opened a previously created document, made changes, but saved those changes to as a new file in order to prevent modifications on the original. If Word automatically saved those revisions before you could use Save As and save a copy then users would be faced with the inabilty to recover documents that contain changes they didn't want to save. Granted they could potientally use Undo but that would result in doing a lot of work over again. This new issue would be equally detrimental, wouldn't you agree? There are several other examples in which users wouldn't be happy if Word automatically saved documents as well. So what does a one do in order to attempt to make everyone happy? The easiest solution is to give users the choice to save or not save changes by creating a Save command that doesn't function automatically. After all, using Ctrl + S to clicking a button to save the file really isn't asking too much. After awhile it becomes habit - just like putting your car in Drive when you want to move forward or putting your car in Reverse when you want to move backward becomes second nature. Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Dear Suzanne That is an unreal comparison. When I BUY something, I expect it to work as well as possible and, if there is a known problem, for the manufacturer to fix it. if not, I simply buy another product! Why do you avoid the realissue - it is a problem for loads of people, has been for ages, and should be fixed. Why not?!!! Roy |
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The more I think about your response, the angrier it makes me. It is so
patronising, so unhelpful and even arrogant. If that attitude is how Microsoft sees such issues, the end is nigh. Customers don't have to do what theyr'e told - it is the 21st century! Peace. Roy "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I stand by my statement. I think it is important to make users realize that *they* are responsible for saving their work. Do you have the same expectations about the rest of your life, that "someone else" should protect you from the consequences of, say, paying your utility bill or insurance premium or filing your income tax return or brushing your teeth or buying the food you need for tomorrow or washing your dirty clothes or...? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Dear Suzanne I think your comment "none of the options will protect you from your own imprudence, laziness, or folly!" is both unhelpful and misses the main point. This software is used so often by so many and it seems most of us have been caught by this happening at one time or another. Why on earth not fix it?! Isn't "user-friendly" part of the plan? Wouldn't that be a wINwIN SOLUTION?! Thanks Roy "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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Just for the record, Suzanne is not Microsoft. Everyone you're speaking with
here is a volunteer who answers questions of their own free will. Your hostility is wasted and counter-productive. Suzanne is exactly right. When you drive a car, it is your responsibility to put gas in it. It is your responsibility to turn off the lights when you park it. If you fail to do either, you'll be inconvenienced. You assume certain responsibilities to use any product. Dan "roybaylis" wrote in message ... The more I think about your response, the angrier it makes me. It is so patronising, so unhelpful and even arrogant. If that attitude is how Microsoft sees such issues, the end is nigh. Customers don't have to do what theyr'e told - it is the 21st century! Peace. Roy "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I stand by my statement. I think it is important to make users realize that *they* are responsible for saving their work. Do you have the same expectations about the rest of your life, that "someone else" should protect you from the consequences of, say, paying your utility bill or insurance premium or filing your income tax return or brushing your teeth or buying the food you need for tomorrow or washing your dirty clothes or...? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Dear Suzanne I think your comment "none of the options will protect you from your own imprudence, laziness, or folly!" is both unhelpful and misses the main point. This software is used so often by so many and it seems most of us have been caught by this happening at one time or another. Why on earth not fix it?! Isn't "user-friendly" part of the plan? Wouldn't that be a wINwIN SOLUTION?! Thanks Roy "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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My attitude has nothing to do with "how Microsoft sees such issues." I do
not work for Microsoft and am not responsible for their attitude, nor they for mine. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... The more I think about your response, the angrier it makes me. It is so patronising, so unhelpful and even arrogant. If that attitude is how Microsoft sees such issues, the end is nigh. Customers don't have to do what theyr'e told - it is the 21st century! Peace. Roy "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I stand by my statement. I think it is important to make users realize that *they* are responsible for saving their work. Do you have the same expectations about the rest of your life, that "someone else" should protect you from the consequences of, say, paying your utility bill or insurance premium or filing your income tax return or brushing your teeth or buying the food you need for tomorrow or washing your dirty clothes or...? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... Dear Suzanne I think your comment "none of the options will protect you from your own imprudence, laziness, or folly!" is both unhelpful and misses the main point. This software is used so often by so many and it seems most of us have been caught by this happening at one time or another. Why on earth not fix it?! Isn't "user-friendly" part of the plan? Wouldn't that be a wINwIN SOLUTION?! Thanks Roy "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There is no "autosave" in Word. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/AutomaticSave.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "roybaylis" wrote in message ... I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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yo baylis can.t help you there. hope u sorted by now but does anyone know how to retrieve 2003 word files after a power cut? "roybaylis" wrote: I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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Did you save the files at some point before losing power?
-- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies" "jefftee" wrote in message ... yo baylis can.t help you there. hope u sorted by now but does anyone know how to retrieve 2003 word files after a power cut? "roybaylis" wrote: I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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There is no 'autosave' in Word. Only save autorecovery information, which
can be a bit hit or miss and for that 1 minute intervals are too short and will interfere with writing. I believe the 'save' occurs only when the PC is idle. If the documents are not recovered when you next open Word after the recovery of power, unsaved documents are gone. See http://www.gmayor.com/automatically_backup.htm -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org "jefftee" wrote in message ... yo baylis can.t help you there. hope u sorted by now but does anyone know how to retrieve 2003 word files after a power cut? "roybaylis" wrote: I have recently lost some Word docs, despite having autosave set to 1 minute. Journal was switched off, so no joy there. Any ideas?! Thanks a million. Roy |
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