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I also repeat myself when I say I know how to create and use a custom style.
I assume the answer is that the feature I asked about does not exist in Word, and if so, then that is all I need to know. What "nonstandard terminology"? If you mean "header" and "heading", I am sure not familiar with the definitions you specify. Where are they defined? If I know what the standard definitions are, then I will try to use the correct terminology. However since this is the new users group, it will sometimes be necessary to be a little more flexible in the use of terminology. I have used a variety of word processors, including "Script", IBM's Mainframe word processing software. GML is a set of Script macros and SGML is a standardized version of GML. HTML is a non-proprietary format based upon SGML. I have used terminology that I am familiar with from a variety of environments. Again, if it is standard terminology, then I am interested in knowing where it is defined. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I repeat that if you use a table style, you can define specific formatting for the heading row. If you save a Word document as a Web page, that row (or a row designated as a heading row using Heading Rows Repeat) will most likely be interpreted as a header row in the in the HTML table. Aside from that, the first row of any table is interpreted by Word as a "header row" for the purpose of, say, mail merges (where the first row is used to provide merge field names). Please be aware that we are also "trying to be nice," but if you insist on trying to apply nonstandard terminology to Word, then you are inevitably going to foster the impression that you know less about Word than those who are trying to help you. The descriptions and examples you give are applicable to Excel spreadsheets; they are not applicable to Word documents. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Sam Hobbs" wrote in message ... I was trying to be nice but that made me vulnerable to people that think I don't understand. A header is something that is at the beginning of something and the header provides information about what follows. Headers are used abundantly in data, such as order entry data and accounting system trasactions. In most situations, such as for data as I described, there is not a concept of a page for which the header needs to be repeated for. Regardlous of that, let's use something more relevant. Perhaps you are not familiar with HTML tables, because if you were, you would understand what I meant. Using FrontPage, when we create a table, we can specify that a cell is a header cell. For each header cell, FrontPage uses a "TH" tag instead of a "TD" tag. HTML has style settings for TH tags that are different from TD tags. It is the formatting that I mean when I say "header". In Word, when I use "Heading Rows Repeat", the formatting does not change, so it is not what I am asking about. Perhaps Word does not have the feature I thought it does, and if so, then that is the answer. I realize that I can create a style that I use with table headers and I know how to do that. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I think your terminology may be confusing everyone (including possibly yourself). A header is something that repeats at the top of the page. A heading is a particular kind of style. A table can have a heading row (or rows) that, like a page header, repeat(s) at the top of each page. In order to make a heading row repeat, you check the appropriate option on the Table menu. In Word 2000 and up, it's Heading Rows Repeat; in earlier versions, it's just Heading, I think. If you are applying a table style, you can define a specific format for the top row (confusingly identified as "Header row"). If you are asking about putting a table (cell) in the page header, then what is your question? You can create a table in the header just as you can anywhere else. I think you're still asking the question answered in my first paragraph, though. You make a row (not a cell) a heading row by selecting it and checking Heading Rows Repeat. You can have as many heading rows as you want, but they must be contiguous and at the top of the table. If you don't want them to repeat, then there is no point in designating them as heading rows. You can still, however, apply heading styles. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Sam Hobbs" wrote in message ... Thnk you for your thorough answer. I am sorry, but my question was not clear. My question is "How do I make a table cell a header?". The part about how to make make the header repeat made the question confusing. I did not intend to ask how to make the header repeat. I meant to ask how to make the header; that is, how to specify that a row is a header row. I know that many people put their question after a long explanation, but since I have answered thousands of questions in another forum, I know how much it helps to have the question at the top. Unfortunately, many people don't expect the question to be at the top, so it is confusing to have the question at the top; right? Sorry. "JBNewsGroup" wrote in message ... Hi Sam, You do not say which version of Word. However, in Word 2000 do the following steps: 1. Select the top table rows that you want to be a header. 2. On the Menu bar click on "Table". 3. On the drop down menu find "Heading Rows Repeat" and click on it. As the table expands to a second page, or newspaper column if that is set up, the rows you selected will be repeated. The "header" must be one, or more, of the first table rows and must be consecutive rows. If any other rows are selected the "Heading Rows Repeat" will be disabled( Grayed out ). There may be a keyboard shortcut for this but I do not know of one. Maybe someone else can give you the shortcut keys if there is one. Jerry Bodoff "Sam Hobbs" wrote in message ... How do I make a table cell a header? Or is there nothing in Word for specifying a cell as a header? I sure thought I had done that but it has been a long time. Perhaps I am just too accustomed to HTML, in which there are separate tags for header cells. I looked in the Word documentation and could not find anything, except something describing how to "Repeat a table heading on subsequent pages", which sure implies that there is something such as "a table heading" in Word too. If that is true, then it is impossible to find in the Word documentation how to make them. If that is not true, then the haeding "Repeat a table heading...." is sure misleading. |
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I have an idea you are not familiar with the concept of "table styles,"
which are different from paragraph styles. As for terminology, I have to confess that Word's UI and Help are somewhat inconsistent in referring to the top row(s) of a table. A repeated row or rows is/are consistently described as "heading row(s)," while the Sort and Table Style dialogs use the term "header row" for the (not necessarily repeating) top row (only a single one permitted). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Sam Hobbs" wrote in message ... I also repeat myself when I say I know how to create and use a custom style. I assume the answer is that the feature I asked about does not exist in Word, and if so, then that is all I need to know. What "nonstandard terminology"? If you mean "header" and "heading", I am sure not familiar with the definitions you specify. Where are they defined? If I know what the standard definitions are, then I will try to use the correct terminology. However since this is the new users group, it will sometimes be necessary to be a little more flexible in the use of terminology. I have used a variety of word processors, including "Script", IBM's Mainframe word processing software. GML is a set of Script macros and SGML is a standardized version of GML. HTML is a non-proprietary format based upon SGML. I have used terminology that I am familiar with from a variety of environments. Again, if it is standard terminology, then I am interested in knowing where it is defined. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I repeat that if you use a table style, you can define specific formatting for the heading row. If you save a Word document as a Web page, that row (or a row designated as a heading row using Heading Rows Repeat) will most likely be interpreted as a header row in the in the HTML table. Aside from that, the first row of any table is interpreted by Word as a "header row" for the purpose of, say, mail merges (where the first row is used to provide merge field names). Please be aware that we are also "trying to be nice," but if you insist on trying to apply nonstandard terminology to Word, then you are inevitably going to foster the impression that you know less about Word than those who are trying to help you. The descriptions and examples you give are applicable to Excel spreadsheets; they are not applicable to Word documents. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Sam Hobbs" wrote in message ... I was trying to be nice but that made me vulnerable to people that think I don't understand. A header is something that is at the beginning of something and the header provides information about what follows. Headers are used abundantly in data, such as order entry data and accounting system trasactions. In most situations, such as for data as I described, there is not a concept of a page for which the header needs to be repeated for. Regardlous of that, let's use something more relevant. Perhaps you are not familiar with HTML tables, because if you were, you would understand what I meant. Using FrontPage, when we create a table, we can specify that a cell is a header cell. For each header cell, FrontPage uses a "TH" tag instead of a "TD" tag. HTML has style settings for TH tags that are different from TD tags. It is the formatting that I mean when I say "header". In Word, when I use "Heading Rows Repeat", the formatting does not change, so it is not what I am asking about. Perhaps Word does not have the feature I thought it does, and if so, then that is the answer. I realize that I can create a style that I use with table headers and I know how to do that. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I think your terminology may be confusing everyone (including possibly yourself). A header is something that repeats at the top of the page. A heading is a particular kind of style. A table can have a heading row (or rows) that, like a page header, repeat(s) at the top of each page. In order to make a heading row repeat, you check the appropriate option on the Table menu. In Word 2000 and up, it's Heading Rows Repeat; in earlier versions, it's just Heading, I think. If you are applying a table style, you can define a specific format for the top row (confusingly identified as "Header row"). If you are asking about putting a table (cell) in the page header, then what is your question? You can create a table in the header just as you can anywhere else. I think you're still asking the question answered in my first paragraph, though. You make a row (not a cell) a heading row by selecting it and checking Heading Rows Repeat. You can have as many heading rows as you want, but they must be contiguous and at the top of the table. If you don't want them to repeat, then there is no point in designating them as heading rows. You can still, however, apply heading styles. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Sam Hobbs" wrote in message ... Thnk you for your thorough answer. I am sorry, but my question was not clear. My question is "How do I make a table cell a header?". The part about how to make make the header repeat made the question confusing. I did not intend to ask how to make the header repeat. I meant to ask how to make the header; that is, how to specify that a row is a header row. I know that many people put their question after a long explanation, but since I have answered thousands of questions in another forum, I know how much it helps to have the question at the top. Unfortunately, many people don't expect the question to be at the top, so it is confusing to have the question at the top; right? Sorry. "JBNewsGroup" wrote in message ... Hi Sam, You do not say which version of Word. However, in Word 2000 do the following steps: 1. Select the top table rows that you want to be a header. 2. On the Menu bar click on "Table". 3. On the drop down menu find "Heading Rows Repeat" and click on it. As the table expands to a second page, or newspaper column if that is set up, the rows you selected will be repeated. The "header" must be one, or more, of the first table rows and must be consecutive rows. If any other rows are selected the "Heading Rows Repeat" will be disabled( Grayed out ). There may be a keyboard shortcut for this but I do not know of one. Maybe someone else can give you the shortcut keys if there is one. Jerry Bodoff "Sam Hobbs" wrote in message ... How do I make a table cell a header? Or is there nothing in Word for specifying a cell as a header? I sure thought I had done that but it has been a long time. Perhaps I am just too accustomed to HTML, in which there are separate tags for header cells. I looked in the Word documentation and could not find anything, except something describing how to "Repeat a table heading on subsequent pages", which sure implies that there is something such as "a table heading" in Word too. If that is true, then it is impossible to find in the Word documentation how to make them. If that is not true, then the haeding "Repeat a table heading...." is sure misleading. |
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Yes, I have not seen "table styles" anywhere. I have seen paragraph and
character styles, but not table styles. I do now see that styles can be either a paragraph, character, table or list style. I see that I can specify a style for the first row, which means that the first row can be considered (the equivalent of) a header automatically. I also see that I can specify that style to be a default style. So that sure does help, thank you. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I have an idea you are not familiar with the concept of "table styles," which are different from paragraph styles. |
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