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Word: Grid lines DO print, sometimes, and sometimes not
Grid lines in tables are supposed to be not printable. The first time I print
my document, the do indeed not show in print. When I print again they show (sometimes), and also (hidden) borders. When I close and restart Word, the first time printing is OK again. Print preview is always OK. My printer is HP Laserjet 4250 tn, but it occurs also with other printers. I do have the right printer drivers (I think). Tables are used in the headers of thousands of letters we send, so a solution would be very welcome. -- Jan Spruit Housing department Amsterdam |
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Grid lines DO print, sometimes, and sometimes not
The only explanation I can think of for this (aside from printer driver
issues) would be the following scenario: 1. You create a document based on Normal.dot or another document template. 2. You open the document on another computer; if you used a template other than Normal.dot, a template with the same name is present on the second computer. 3. The template in question has a different Table AutoFormat selected as the default. 4. "Automatically update document styles" is enabled for the template in question; the table style would be updated to the different formatting (borders rather than no borders). This seems pretty far-fetched, though. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jan Spruit" .(donotspam) wrote in message ... Grid lines in tables are supposed to be not printable. The first time I my document, the do indeed not show in print. When I print again they show (sometimes), and also (hidden) borders. When I close and restart Word, the first time printing is OK again. Print preview is always OK. My printer is HP Laserjet 4250 tn, but it occurs also with other printers. I do have the right printer drivers (I think). Tables are used in the headers of thousands of letters we send, so a solution would be very welcome. -- Jan Spruit Housing department Amsterdam |
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Grid lines DO print, sometimes, and sometimes not
Thanks for your suggestion, but UpdateStylesOnOpen is False, and it's not
only the borders that print, but also the grid lines, what results in a lot of lines. And it occurs often, but not always. I hoped it was a well-known problem with a simple solution. Can't imagine i'm the only one tripping over these gridlines. -- Jan Spruit Housing department Amsterdam "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The only explanation I can think of for this (aside from printer driver issues) would be the following scenario: 1. You create a document based on Normal.dot or another document template. 2. You open the document on another computer; if you used a template other than Normal.dot, a template with the same name is present on the second computer. 3. The template in question has a different Table AutoFormat selected as the default. 4. "Automatically update document styles" is enabled for the template in question; the table style would be updated to the different formatting (borders rather than no borders). This seems pretty far-fetched, though. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jan Spruit" .(donotspam) wrote in message ... Grid lines in tables are supposed to be not printable. The first time I my document, the do indeed not show in print. When I print again they show (sometimes), and also (hidden) borders. When I close and restart Word, the first time printing is OK again. Print preview is always OK. My printer is HP Laserjet 4250 tn, but it occurs also with other printers. I do have the right printer drivers (I think). Tables are used in the headers of thousands of letters we send, so a solution would be very welcome. -- Jan Spruit Housing department Amsterdam |
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Grid lines DO print, sometimes, and sometimes not
What you describe as "gridlines" *are* borders if they print. The only other
clue I can think of is something similar to the bug described in €śWD2002: Word Incorrectly Prints Column Break Marks and Section Break Marks€ť at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=324326 Which brings us back to the presumption that the problem may be with the printer driver. Is this an English or Dutch version of Word? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jan Spruit" .(donotspam) wrote in message ... Thanks for your suggestion, but UpdateStylesOnOpen is False, and it's not only the borders that print, but also the grid lines, what results in a lot of lines. And it occurs often, but not always. I hoped it was a well-known problem with a simple solution. Can't imagine i'm the only one tripping over these gridlines. -- Jan Spruit Housing department Amsterdam "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The only explanation I can think of for this (aside from printer driver issues) would be the following scenario: 1. You create a document based on Normal.dot or another document template. 2. You open the document on another computer; if you used a template other than Normal.dot, a template with the same name is present on the second computer. 3. The template in question has a different Table AutoFormat selected as the default. 4. "Automatically update document styles" is enabled for the template in question; the table style would be updated to the different formatting (borders rather than no borders). This seems pretty far-fetched, though. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jan Spruit" .(donotspam) wrote in message ... Grid lines in tables are supposed to be not printable. The first time I my document, the do indeed not show in print. When I print again they show (sometimes), and also (hidden) borders. When I close and restart Word, the first time printing is OK again. Print preview is always OK. My printer is HP Laserjet 4250 tn, but it occurs also with other printers. I do have the right printer drivers (I think). Tables are used in the headers of thousands of letters we send, so a solution would be very welcome. -- Jan Spruit Housing department Amsterdam |
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Grid lines DO print, sometimes, and sometimes not
I'm using a Durch version of Word. I think I must investigate it better to
find out what the lines are exactly. Some cells show a heavy line around them, and a finer line around the text. What also shows are boundaries of text fields and of images in text fields. I also suspect the printer driver, though HP assures me I have the right one. I will try to print to a file and see if the lines still show when I send that to the printer in DOS. I hope that will circumvent problems arising in the network. I'm not at my work now, but wil investigate next week en let you know what I find. -- Jan Spruit Housing department Amsterdam "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: What you describe as "gridlines" *are* borders if they print. The only other clue I can think of is something similar to the bug described in €śWD2002: Word Incorrectly Prints Column Break Marks and Section Break Marks€ť at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=324326 Which brings us back to the presumption that the problem may be with the printer driver. Is this an English or Dutch version of Word? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jan Spruit" .(donotspam) wrote in message ... Thanks for your suggestion, but UpdateStylesOnOpen is False, and it's not only the borders that print, but also the grid lines, what results in a lot of lines. And it occurs often, but not always. I hoped it was a well-known problem with a simple solution. Can't imagine i'm the only one tripping over these gridlines. -- Jan Spruit Housing department Amsterdam "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The only explanation I can think of for this (aside from printer driver issues) would be the following scenario: 1. You create a document based on Normal.dot or another document template. 2. You open the document on another computer; if you used a template other than Normal.dot, a template with the same name is present on the second computer. 3. The template in question has a different Table AutoFormat selected as the default. 4. "Automatically update document styles" is enabled for the template in question; the table style would be updated to the different formatting (borders rather than no borders). This seems pretty far-fetched, though. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jan Spruit" .(donotspam) wrote in message ... Grid lines in tables are supposed to be not printable. The first time I my document, the do indeed not show in print. When I print again they show (sometimes), and also (hidden) borders. When I close and restart Word, the first time printing is OK again. Print preview is always OK. My printer is HP Laserjet 4250 tn, but it occurs also with other printers. I do have the right printer drivers (I think). Tables are used in the headers of thousands of letters we send, so a solution would be very welcome. -- Jan Spruit Housing department Amsterdam |
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Grid lines DO print, sometimes, and sometimes not
The problem is not in the printer driver. If in Word I chose File-Page setup
and press OK (even without changing anything), the first time printing is OK. Second time the lines show again. Word seems to change something after printing that causes the problem. I recorded the File-Page setup - OK sequence in a macro but the macro does not help, while choosing the command from the file menu does. If I had a macro I'd have a workaround. -- Jan Spruit Housing department Amsterdam "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: What you describe as "gridlines" *are* borders if they print. The only other clue I can think of is something similar to the bug described in €śWD2002: Word Incorrectly Prints Column Break Marks and Section Break Marks€ť at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=324326 Which brings us back to the presumption that the problem may be with the printer driver. Is this an English or Dutch version of Word? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jan Spruit" .(donotspam) wrote in message ... Thanks for your suggestion, but UpdateStylesOnOpen is False, and it's not only the borders that print, but also the grid lines, what results in a lot of lines. And it occurs often, but not always. I hoped it was a well-known problem with a simple solution. Can't imagine i'm the only one tripping over these gridlines. -- Jan Spruit Housing department Amsterdam "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The only explanation I can think of for this (aside from printer driver issues) would be the following scenario: 1. You create a document based on Normal.dot or another document template. 2. You open the document on another computer; if you used a template other than Normal.dot, a template with the same name is present on the second computer. 3. The template in question has a different Table AutoFormat selected as the default. 4. "Automatically update document styles" is enabled for the template in question; the table style would be updated to the different formatting (borders rather than no borders). This seems pretty far-fetched, though. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jan Spruit" .(donotspam) wrote in message ... Grid lines in tables are supposed to be not printable. The first time I my document, the do indeed not show in print. When I print again they show (sometimes), and also (hidden) borders. When I close and restart Word, the first time printing is OK again. Print preview is always OK. My printer is HP Laserjet 4250 tn, but it occurs also with other printers. I do have the right printer drivers (I think). Tables are used in the headers of thousands of letters we send, so a solution would be very welcome. -- Jan Spruit Housing department Amsterdam |
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Grid lines DO print, sometimes, and sometimes not
This certainly is bizarre. It sounds to me as if some macro may already be
running when you print, or some field may be updating. Is this a native Word table or something pasted in from Excel? Can you send me a small sample of a document that exhibits this problem? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jan Spruit" .(donotspam) wrote in message ... The problem is not in the printer driver. If in Word I chose File-Page setup and press OK (even without changing anything), the first time printing is OK. Second time the lines show again. Word seems to change something after printing that causes the problem. I recorded the File-Page setup - OK sequence in a macro but the macro does not help, while choosing the command from the file menu does. If I had a macro I'd have a workaround. -- Jan Spruit Housing department Amsterdam "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: What you describe as "gridlines" *are* borders if they print. The only other clue I can think of is something similar to the bug described in €śWD2002: Word Incorrectly Prints Column Break Marks and Section Break Marks€ť at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=324326 Which brings us back to the presumption that the problem may be with the printer driver. Is this an English or Dutch version of Word? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jan Spruit" .(donotspam) wrote in message ... Thanks for your suggestion, but UpdateStylesOnOpen is False, and it's not only the borders that print, but also the grid lines, what results in a lot of lines. And it occurs often, but not always. I hoped it was a well-known problem with a simple solution. Can't imagine i'm the only one tripping over these gridlines. -- Jan Spruit Housing department Amsterdam "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The only explanation I can think of for this (aside from printer driver issues) would be the following scenario: 1. You create a document based on Normal.dot or another document template. 2. You open the document on another computer; if you used a template other than Normal.dot, a template with the same name is present on the second computer. 3. The template in question has a different Table AutoFormat selected as the default. 4. "Automatically update document styles" is enabled for the template in question; the table style would be updated to the different formatting (borders rather than no borders). This seems pretty far-fetched, though. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jan Spruit" .(donotspam) wrote in message ... Grid lines in tables are supposed to be not printable. The first time I my document, the do indeed not show in print. When I print again they show (sometimes), and also (hidden) borders. When I close and restart Word, the first time printing is OK again. Print preview is always OK. My printer is HP Laserjet 4250 tn, but it occurs also with other printers. I do have the right printer drivers (I think). Tables are used in the headers of thousands of letters we send, so a solution would be very welcome. -- Jan Spruit Housing department Amsterdam |
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