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Hi, I have a document with 3 sections at the moment. The first section just
contains the title page, the last section just contains the last page. The body of the document is contained in section 2. The setting for "Same as previous" has been turned off in all the headers and footers. I need to introduce odd and even pages in the body of the document, specifically at page 6, so i can have different headers and footers in that part of the document. I need page 6 to be an odd page. I've tried a number of ways and none of them have worked. I've tried clicking in the first line of text on page 6 (which incidentally has a style applied which inserts a page break before), then Insert, Break, Odd page. Turned off "same as previous" in the header/footer. Then I clicked in that new section, went into the File, PageSetup, Layout and selected Different odd and even headers, For this Section. That resulted in me getting odd and even page headers and footers throughout the whole document. I tried going into the file, pagesetup dialog in the other sections and turning off the Different odd/even headers, For this Section. That removed the odd/even headers from the entire document, including the section where i first turned them on. In fact, i seem to get that result regardless of what i try?? ie. turn the different odd/even header footer on in one section and it applies to whole document, turn them off in one section, and they get turned off in the whole document. I tried going into page 5 and just inserting a Next page section break. Then selected different header/footer, for this section, in the pagesetup. Same result. If anyone can point me in the right direction i would be extremely grateful. I have read the MVPs site pages on section breaks, plus many of the linked sites, plus many posts here...nothing seems to be quite the issue i've got. Thanks in advance, Helen |
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PS. I'm using Word 2003 as you may have guessed :-)
Thanks. "IndianSummer" wrote: Hi, I have a document with 3 sections at the moment. The first section just contains the title page, the last section just contains the last page. The body of the document is contained in section 2. The setting for "Same as previous" has been turned off in all the headers and footers. I need to introduce odd and even pages in the body of the document, specifically at page 6, so i can have different headers and footers in that part of the document. I need page 6 to be an odd page. I've tried a number of ways and none of them have worked. I've tried clicking in the first line of text on page 6 (which incidentally has a style applied which inserts a page break before), then Insert, Break, Odd page. Turned off "same as previous" in the header/footer. Then I clicked in that new section, went into the File, PageSetup, Layout and selected Different odd and even headers, For this Section. That resulted in me getting odd and even page headers and footers throughout the whole document. I tried going into the file, pagesetup dialog in the other sections and turning off the Different odd/even headers, For this Section. That removed the odd/even headers from the entire document, including the section where i first turned them on. In fact, i seem to get that result regardless of what i try?? ie. turn the different odd/even header footer on in one section and it applies to whole document, turn them off in one section, and they get turned off in the whole document. I tried going into page 5 and just inserting a Next page section break. Then selected different header/footer, for this section, in the pagesetup. Same result. If anyone can point me in the right direction i would be extremely grateful. I have read the MVPs site pages on section breaks, plus many of the linked sites, plus many posts here...nothing seems to be quite the issue i've got. Thanks in advance, Helen |
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How can page 6 be an odd page? Page 6 will always be an even page. Pages 5
and 7 are odd pages! That issue aside, you are correct that the odd/even header/footers will apply throughout the document. Whether you can work around that rather depends on what it is that you are trying to achieve with headers/footers. You can use the same odd/even header content in the first section and different odd/even header contents in the second section or You could forget about the section breaks and use a conditional field construction eg { IF{ Page } 5 "{ IF{ =MOD({ Page },2) } = 1 "This is the odd page header" "This is the even page header" }" "This is the page 1 to 5 header" } -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org "IndianSummer" wrote in message ... Hi, I have a document with 3 sections at the moment. The first section just contains the title page, the last section just contains the last page. The body of the document is contained in section 2. The setting for "Same as previous" has been turned off in all the headers and footers. I need to introduce odd and even pages in the body of the document, specifically at page 6, so i can have different headers and footers in that part of the document. I need page 6 to be an odd page. I've tried a number of ways and none of them have worked. I've tried clicking in the first line of text on page 6 (which incidentally has a style applied which inserts a page break before), then Insert, Break, Odd page. Turned off "same as previous" in the header/footer. Then I clicked in that new section, went into the File, PageSetup, Layout and selected Different odd and even headers, For this Section. That resulted in me getting odd and even page headers and footers throughout the whole document. I tried going into the file, pagesetup dialog in the other sections and turning off the Different odd/even headers, For this Section. That removed the odd/even headers from the entire document, including the section where i first turned them on. In fact, i seem to get that result regardless of what i try?? ie. turn the different odd/even header footer on in one section and it applies to whole document, turn them off in one section, and they get turned off in the whole document. I tried going into page 5 and just inserting a Next page section break. Then selected different header/footer, for this section, in the pagesetup. Same result. If anyone can point me in the right direction i would be extremely grateful. I have read the MVPs site pages on section breaks, plus many of the linked sites, plus many posts here...nothing seems to be quite the issue i've got. Thanks in advance, Helen |
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Unlike "Different first page," which can be enabled for specific sections,
"Different odd and even" is a document-level choice. As Graham mentions, you can duplicate the Odd/Even Page Header/Footer in given sections as required, but you must have both. Moreover, Word will not allow you to assign an even number to an "odd page." Once you have, in effect, told Word you plan to duplex the document, Word will hold you to it. If you insert an Odd Page section break, and the previous section ends on an odd page, Word will insert a blank even page to make up the difference. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "IndianSummer" wrote in message ... Hi, I have a document with 3 sections at the moment. The first section just contains the title page, the last section just contains the last page. The body of the document is contained in section 2. The setting for "Same as previous" has been turned off in all the headers and footers. I need to introduce odd and even pages in the body of the document, specifically at page 6, so i can have different headers and footers in that part of the document. I need page 6 to be an odd page. I've tried a number of ways and none of them have worked. I've tried clicking in the first line of text on page 6 (which incidentally has a style applied which inserts a page break before), then Insert, Break, Odd page. Turned off "same as previous" in the header/footer. Then I clicked in that new section, went into the File, PageSetup, Layout and selected Different odd and even headers, For this Section. That resulted in me getting odd and even page headers and footers throughout the whole document. I tried going into the file, pagesetup dialog in the other sections and turning off the Different odd/even headers, For this Section. That removed the odd/even headers from the entire document, including the section where i first turned them on. In fact, i seem to get that result regardless of what i try?? ie. turn the different odd/even header footer on in one section and it applies to whole document, turn them off in one section, and they get turned off in the whole document. I tried going into page 5 and just inserting a Next page section break. Then selected different header/footer, for this section, in the pagesetup. Same result. If anyone can point me in the right direction i would be extremely grateful. I have read the MVPs site pages on section breaks, plus many of the linked sites, plus many posts here...nothing seems to be quite the issue i've got. Thanks in advance, Helen |
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OK sorry - i've found out (at the Microsoft sit) that the different header &
footer setting applies document wide!!! Who knew?!? I wish they would have changed the drop-down list in the Layout, Preview, Apply To setting to reflect that. Surely it suggests that you can apply that setting to just the section...Oh well.. :-) happy to have the info. "IndianSummer" wrote: PS. I'm using Word 2003 as you may have guessed :-) Thanks. "IndianSummer" wrote: Hi, I have a document with 3 sections at the moment. The first section just contains the title page, the last section just contains the last page. The body of the document is contained in section 2. The setting for "Same as previous" has been turned off in all the headers and footers. I need to introduce odd and even pages in the body of the document, specifically at page 6, so i can have different headers and footers in that part of the document. I need page 6 to be an odd page. I've tried a number of ways and none of them have worked. I've tried clicking in the first line of text on page 6 (which incidentally has a style applied which inserts a page break before), then Insert, Break, Odd page. Turned off "same as previous" in the header/footer. Then I clicked in that new section, went into the File, PageSetup, Layout and selected Different odd and even headers, For this Section. That resulted in me getting odd and even page headers and footers throughout the whole document. I tried going into the file, pagesetup dialog in the other sections and turning off the Different odd/even headers, For this Section. That removed the odd/even headers from the entire document, including the section where i first turned them on. In fact, i seem to get that result regardless of what i try?? ie. turn the different odd/even header footer on in one section and it applies to whole document, turn them off in one section, and they get turned off in the whole document. I tried going into page 5 and just inserting a Next page section break. Then selected different header/footer, for this section, in the pagesetup. Same result. If anyone can point me in the right direction i would be extremely grateful. I have read the MVPs site pages on section breaks, plus many of the linked sites, plus many posts here...nothing seems to be quite the issue i've got. Thanks in advance, Helen |
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lol Graham, yes of course you are right about page 6 always being an even page! What I didn't explain at all, is that i needed the content which was on page 6 to be on the first odd page in my new section - in which section I wanted to have the different odd/even headers. Thanks heaps for the conditional field you have offered, that will be extremely helpful - i have a couple of documents I can use that in. Many thanks for replying, and best regards, Helen thanks heaps for the "Graham Mayor" wrote: How can page 6 be an odd page? Page 6 will always be an even page. Pages 5 and 7 are odd pages! That issue aside, you are correct that the odd/even header/footers will apply throughout the document. Whether you can work around that rather depends on what it is that you are trying to achieve with headers/footers. You can use the same odd/even header content in the first section and different odd/even header contents in the second section or You could forget about the section breaks and use a conditional field construction eg { IF{ Page } 5 "{ IF{ =MOD({ Page },2) } = 1 "This is the odd page header" "This is the even page header" }" "This is the page 1 to 5 header" } -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org "IndianSummer" wrote in message ... Hi, I have a document with 3 sections at the moment. The first section just contains the title page, the last section just contains the last page. The body of the document is contained in section 2. The setting for "Same as previous" has been turned off in all the headers and footers. I need to introduce odd and even pages in the body of the document, specifically at page 6, so i can have different headers and footers in that part of the document. I need page 6 to be an odd page. I've tried a number of ways and none of them have worked. I've tried clicking in the first line of text on page 6 (which incidentally has a style applied which inserts a page break before), then Insert, Break, Odd page. Turned off "same as previous" in the header/footer. Then I clicked in that new section, went into the File, PageSetup, Layout and selected Different odd and even headers, For this Section. That resulted in me getting odd and even page headers and footers throughout the whole document. I tried going into the file, pagesetup dialog in the other sections and turning off the Different odd/even headers, For this Section. That removed the odd/even headers from the entire document, including the section where i first turned them on. In fact, i seem to get that result regardless of what i try?? ie. turn the different odd/even header footer on in one section and it applies to whole document, turn them off in one section, and they get turned off in the whole document. I tried going into page 5 and just inserting a Next page section break. Then selected different header/footer, for this section, in the pagesetup. Same result. If anyone can point me in the right direction i would be extremely grateful. I have read the MVPs site pages on section breaks, plus many of the linked sites, plus many posts here...nothing seems to be quite the issue i've got. Thanks in advance, Helen . |
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Thank you for replying Suzanne, I really appreciate it.
Apologies for sounding confused over what the words "odd" and "even" mean. Just missing that one simple fact that the different odd/even header/footer is a global setting, had me babbling and tearing my hair out!! While I'm here.. in my previous searches for info i have read a number of your replies to other posts. I always find them very informative and easy to understand. Many thanks! helen "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Unlike "Different first page," which can be enabled for specific sections, "Different odd and even" is a document-level choice. As Graham mentions, you can duplicate the Odd/Even Page Header/Footer in given sections as required, but you must have both. Moreover, Word will not allow you to assign an even number to an "odd page." Once you have, in effect, told Word you plan to duplex the document, Word will hold you to it. If you insert an Odd Page section break, and the previous section ends on an odd page, Word will insert a blank even page to make up the difference. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "IndianSummer" wrote in message ... Hi, I have a document with 3 sections at the moment. The first section just contains the title page, the last section just contains the last page. The body of the document is contained in section 2. The setting for "Same as previous" has been turned off in all the headers and footers. I need to introduce odd and even pages in the body of the document, specifically at page 6, so i can have different headers and footers in that part of the document. I need page 6 to be an odd page. I've tried a number of ways and none of them have worked. I've tried clicking in the first line of text on page 6 (which incidentally has a style applied which inserts a page break before), then Insert, Break, Odd page. Turned off "same as previous" in the header/footer. Then I clicked in that new section, went into the File, PageSetup, Layout and selected Different odd and even headers, For this Section. That resulted in me getting odd and even page headers and footers throughout the whole document. I tried going into the file, pagesetup dialog in the other sections and turning off the Different odd/even headers, For this Section. That removed the odd/even headers from the entire document, including the section where i first turned them on. In fact, i seem to get that result regardless of what i try?? ie. turn the different odd/even header footer on in one section and it applies to whole document, turn them off in one section, and they get turned off in the whole document. I tried going into page 5 and just inserting a Next page section break. Then selected different header/footer, for this section, in the pagesetup. Same result. If anyone can point me in the right direction i would be extremely grateful. I have read the MVPs site pages on section breaks, plus many of the linked sites, plus many posts here...nothing seems to be quite the issue i've got. Thanks in advance, Helen . |
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Thank you. I'm glad to see evidence that our NNTP posts are finally making
it to the Web interface; as you may have noticed, our replies were actually posted a couple of days ago. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "IndianSummer" wrote in message ... Thank you for replying Suzanne, I really appreciate it. Apologies for sounding confused over what the words "odd" and "even" mean. Just missing that one simple fact that the different odd/even header/footer is a global setting, had me babbling and tearing my hair out!! While I'm here.. in my previous searches for info i have read a number of your replies to other posts. I always find them very informative and easy to understand. Many thanks! helen "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Unlike "Different first page," which can be enabled for specific sections, "Different odd and even" is a document-level choice. As Graham mentions, you can duplicate the Odd/Even Page Header/Footer in given sections as required, but you must have both. Moreover, Word will not allow you to assign an even number to an "odd page." Once you have, in effect, told Word you plan to duplex the document, Word will hold you to it. If you insert an Odd Page section break, and the previous section ends on an odd page, Word will insert a blank even page to make up the difference. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "IndianSummer" wrote in message ... Hi, I have a document with 3 sections at the moment. The first section just contains the title page, the last section just contains the last page. The body of the document is contained in section 2. The setting for "Same as previous" has been turned off in all the headers and footers. I need to introduce odd and even pages in the body of the document, specifically at page 6, so i can have different headers and footers in that part of the document. I need page 6 to be an odd page. I've tried a number of ways and none of them have worked. I've tried clicking in the first line of text on page 6 (which incidentally has a style applied which inserts a page break before), then Insert, Break, Odd page. Turned off "same as previous" in the header/footer. Then I clicked in that new section, went into the File, PageSetup, Layout and selected Different odd and even headers, For this Section. That resulted in me getting odd and even page headers and footers throughout the whole document. I tried going into the file, pagesetup dialog in the other sections and turning off the Different odd/even headers, For this Section. That removed the odd/even headers from the entire document, including the section where i first turned them on. In fact, i seem to get that result regardless of what i try?? ie. turn the different odd/even header footer on in one section and it applies to whole document, turn them off in one section, and they get turned off in the whole document. I tried going into page 5 and just inserting a Next page section break. Then selected different header/footer, for this section, in the pagesetup. Same result. If anyone can point me in the right direction i would be extremely grateful. I have read the MVPs site pages on section breaks, plus many of the linked sites, plus many posts here...nothing seems to be quite the issue i've got. Thanks in advance, Helen . |
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