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Very strange Multi Mb document
Hello everybody,
I received a very strange WORD document through E-Mail from an acquaintance who does not know very much about IT in general and WORD in particular. The mail contained an attachment of about 5 Mb as a WORD document. After downloading it reduced to 3.5 Mb, which is quite normal, apart from the fact that one should never send such large attachments. The strange thing, for that 3.5 Mb document, is that it was only 3 pages long, the "statistics" (from the "Properties" window) showing about 2000 characters, 22 paragraphs, etc. The only odd thing was the "Revision number = 34" and "Total editing time = 137 minutes". It shows no "Versions" from the File --- Version. When I saved it (just clicking on the "diskette" icon in the toolbar) the size reduced to... 146 kb. However, as my WORD is set up to automatically create a backup, the backup file was also 3.5 Mb. Any clue on what caused that document to use such a large amount of space and reduce so much by just re-saving it ? It was actually so big, because the downloading took quite a time ? Thank you in advance. Jean-Pierre Belgium |
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The document might not have been saved before it was sent and your friend
may have the "Allow fast saves" box checked under ToolsOptionsSave. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Jean-Pierre" wrote in message ... Hello everybody, I received a very strange WORD document through E-Mail from an acquaintance who does not know very much about IT in general and WORD in particular. The mail contained an attachment of about 5 Mb as a WORD document. After downloading it reduced to 3.5 Mb, which is quite normal, apart from the fact that one should never send such large attachments. The strange thing, for that 3.5 Mb document, is that it was only 3 pages long, the "statistics" (from the "Properties" window) showing about 2000 characters, 22 paragraphs, etc. The only odd thing was the "Revision number = 34" and "Total editing time = 137 minutes". It shows no "Versions" from the File --- Version. When I saved it (just clicking on the "diskette" icon in the toolbar) the size reduced to... 146 kb. However, as my WORD is set up to automatically create a backup, the backup file was also 3.5 Mb. Any clue on what caused that document to use such a large amount of space and reduce so much by just re-saving it ? It was actually so big, because the downloading took quite a time ? Thank you in advance. Jean-Pierre Belgium |
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This might well be the case. I 'll try it myself and see if it gives the
problem. Thank very much for the clue. Jean-Pierre Belgium ================================================== ================= "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... The document might not have been saved before it was sent and your friend may have the "Allow fast saves" box checked under ToolsOptionsSave. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Jean-Pierre" wrote in message ... Hello everybody, I received a very strange WORD document through E-Mail from an acquaintance who does not know very much about IT in general and WORD in particular. The mail contained an attachment of about 5 Mb as a WORD document. After downloading it reduced to 3.5 Mb, which is quite normal, apart from the fact that one should never send such large attachments. The strange thing, for that 3.5 Mb document, is that it was only 3 pages long, the "statistics" (from the "Properties" window) showing about 2000 characters, 22 paragraphs, etc. The only odd thing was the "Revision number = 34" and "Total editing time = 137 minutes". It shows no "Versions" from the File --- Version. When I saved it (just clicking on the "diskette" icon in the toolbar) the size reduced to... 146 kb. However, as my WORD is set up to automatically create a backup, the backup file was also 3.5 Mb. Any clue on what caused that document to use such a large amount of space and reduce so much by just re-saving it ? It was actually so big, because the downloading took quite a time ? Thank you in advance. Jean-Pierre Belgium |
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I tried to duplicate the problem, but my document remained at a gentle 30 kb. Of
course I do not know what my friend had done with her document before sending it. So the mystery remains. Again thank you for your suggestion, it leads to a precaution to take anyway. Jean-Pierre Belgium ====================================== "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message ... The document might not have been saved before it was sent and your friend may have the "Allow fast saves" box checked under ToolsOptionsSave. -- Hope this helps. Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my services on a paid consulting basis. Doug Robbins - Word MVP "Jean-Pierre" wrote in message ... Hello everybody, I received a very strange WORD document through E-Mail from an acquaintance who does not know very much about IT in general and WORD in particular. The mail contained an attachment of about 5 Mb as a WORD document. After downloading it reduced to 3.5 Mb, which is quite normal, apart from the fact that one should never send such large attachments. The strange thing, for that 3.5 Mb document, is that it was only 3 pages long, the "statistics" (from the "Properties" window) showing about 2000 characters, 22 paragraphs, etc. The only odd thing was the "Revision number = 34" and "Total editing time = 137 minutes". It shows no "Versions" from the File --- Version. When I saved it (just clicking on the "diskette" icon in the toolbar) the size reduced to... 146 kb. However, as my WORD is set up to automatically create a backup, the backup file was also 3.5 Mb. Any clue on what caused that document to use such a large amount of space and reduce so much by just re-saving it ? It was actually so big, because the downloading took quite a time ? Thank you in advance. Jean-Pierre Belgium |
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Hi! Whenever users have the "Allow fast saves" box checked under ToolsOptionsSave, and they make changes to a document, Word saves all the changes that have been made. This is done repeatedly and cumulatively each time the same document is edited and "fast-saved" (this is a bit like making "incremental" backups of a hard drive). So when many "fast-saved" changes have been made, the corresponding document can become very bulky: it actually includes all the various changes made to it, even if only the latest (official) "draft" is visible. This is considered by some as a privacy issue because clever people can retrieve all the previous "drafts" from such "fast-saved" documents, especially if they are saved as RTF. If you read the Word help regarding the "Allow fast saves" option, you'll see that Word users are advised to turn this option off before saving the final version of a document. The final document is usually much lighter with a standard "slow" save. -- Cheers Robert On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:28:35 +0100, Jean-Pierre wrote: Hello everybody, I received a very strange WORD document through E-Mail from an acquaintance who does not know very much about IT in general and WORD in particular. The mail contained an attachment of about 5 Mb as a WORD document. After downloading it reduced to 3.5 Mb, which is quite normal, apart from the fact that one should never send such large attachments. The strange thing, for that 3.5 Mb document, is that it was only 3 pages long, the "statistics" (from the "Properties" window) showing about 2000 characters, 22 paragraphs, etc. The only odd thing was the "Revision number = 34" and "Total editing time = 137 minutes". It shows no "Versions" from the File --- Version. When I saved it (just clicking on the "diskette" icon in the toolbar) the size reduced to... 146 kb. However, as my WORD is set up to automatically create a backup, the backup file was also 3.5 Mb. Any clue on what caused that document to use such a large amount of space and reduce so much by just re-saving it ? It was actually so big, because the downloading took quite a time ? Thank you in advance. Jean-Pierre Belgium |
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I tried it and WORD / Notepad behave exactly like you write.
The fact that my friend's document shows a large revision number (34) indicates that the document must have modified many times. Note that to find the warning on "fast save" in the help, one must know that it exist. Just searching for "fast save" does not lead to it. Thank you for telling me. Jean-Pierre Belgium ======================================== "Robert" wrote in message ... Hi! Whenever users have the "Allow fast saves" box checked under ToolsOptionsSave, and they make changes to a document, Word saves all the changes that have been made. This is done repeatedly and cumulatively each time the same document is edited and "fast-saved" (this is a bit like making "incremental" backups of a hard drive). So when many "fast-saved" changes have been made, the corresponding document can become very bulky: it actually includes all the various changes made to it, even if only the latest (official) "draft" is visible. This is considered by some as a privacy issue because clever people can retrieve all the previous "drafts" from such "fast-saved" documents, especially if they are saved as RTF. If you read the Word help regarding the "Allow fast saves" option, you'll see that Word users are advised to turn this option off before saving the final version of a document. The final document is usually much lighter with a standard "slow" save. -- Cheers Robert On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:28:35 +0100, Jean-Pierre wrote: Hello everybody, I received a very strange WORD document through E-Mail from an acquaintance who does not know very much about IT in general and WORD in particular. The mail contained an attachment of about 5 Mb as a WORD document. After downloading it reduced to 3.5 Mb, which is quite normal, apart from the fact that one should never send such large attachments. The strange thing, for that 3.5 Mb document, is that it was only 3 pages long, the "statistics" (from the "Properties" window) showing about 2000 characters, 22 paragraphs, etc. The only odd thing was the "Revision number = 34" and "Total editing time = 137 minutes". It shows no "Versions" from the File --- Version. When I saved it (just clicking on the "diskette" icon in the toolbar) the size reduced to... 146 kb. However, as my WORD is set up to automatically create a backup, the backup file was also 3.5 Mb. Any clue on what caused that document to use such a large amount of space and reduce so much by just re-saving it ? It was actually so big, because the downloading took quite a time ? Thank you in advance. Jean-Pierre Belgium |
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The best way to find help about a Word option is to open the corresoponding
dialog and to press F1 (or click the question mark button on the dialog title bar). Robert On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 15:55:57 +0100, Jean-Pierre wrote: Note that to find the warning on "fast save" in the help, one must know that it exist. Just searching for "fast save" does not lead to it. Thank you for telling me. Jean-Pierre Belgium |
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Very strange Multi Mb document
Possibly the reason why the document is so large is that it has been heavily
edited previously with track changes on but you are looking at it with display changes off, so a large number of changes (very large g) are hidden. Try tools | track changes | display changes on screen and see if this reveals a huge amount of changes, perhaps pages and pages of deletions. "Jean-Pierre" wrote in message ... Hello everybody, I received a very strange WORD document through E-Mail from an acquaintance who does not know very much about IT in general and WORD in particular. The mail contained an attachment of about 5 Mb as a WORD document. After downloading it reduced to 3.5 Mb, which is quite normal, apart from the fact that one should never send such large attachments. The strange thing, for that 3.5 Mb document, is that it was only 3 pages long, the "statistics" (from the "Properties" window) showing about 2000 characters, 22 paragraphs, etc. The only odd thing was the "Revision number = 34" and "Total editing time = 137 minutes". It shows no "Versions" from the File --- Version. When I saved it (just clicking on the "diskette" icon in the toolbar) the size reduced to... 146 kb. However, as my WORD is set up to automatically create a backup, the backup file was also 3.5 Mb. Any clue on what caused that document to use such a large amount of space and reduce so much by just re-saving it ? It was actually so big, because the downloading took quite a time ? Thank you in advance. Jean-Pierre Belgium |
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Hi Aalaan,
Track Change is allways "ON" on my machine, with "Final showing markup". The document shows no change. Furthermore, when I just save the document (pressing the diskette icon), the size drops from 3.5 Mb to 146 kb, quite compatible with the assumption on "Fast Save" on my friends machine. Thank you for the suggestion. Jean-Pierre Belgium ============================================== "aalaan" wrote in message ... Possibly the reason why the document is so large is that it has been heavily edited previously with track changes on but you are looking at it with display changes off, so a large number of changes (very large g) are hidden. Try tools | track changes | display changes on screen and see if this reveals a huge amount of changes, perhaps pages and pages of deletions. "Jean-Pierre" wrote in message ... Hello everybody, I received a very strange WORD document through E-Mail from an acquaintance who does not know very much about IT in general and WORD in particular. The mail contained an attachment of about 5 Mb as a WORD document. After downloading it reduced to 3.5 Mb, which is quite normal, apart from the fact that one should never send such large attachments. The strange thing, for that 3.5 Mb document, is that it was only 3 pages long, the "statistics" (from the "Properties" window) showing about 2000 characters, 22 paragraphs, etc. The only odd thing was the "Revision number = 34" and "Total editing time = 137 minutes". It shows no "Versions" from the File --- Version. When I saved it (just clicking on the "diskette" icon in the toolbar) the size reduced to... 146 kb. However, as my WORD is set up to automatically create a backup, the backup file was also 3.5 Mb. Any clue on what caused that document to use such a large amount of space and reduce so much by just re-saving it ? It was actually so big, because the downloading took quite a time ? Thank you in advance. Jean-Pierre Belgium |
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Sorry it didn't help
"Jean-Pierre" wrote in message ... Hi Aalaan, Track Change is allways "ON" on my machine, with "Final showing markup". The document shows no change. Furthermore, when I just save the document (pressing the diskette icon), the size drops from 3.5 Mb to 146 kb, quite compatible with the assumption on "Fast Save" on my friends machine. Thank you for the suggestion. Jean-Pierre Belgium ============================================== "aalaan" wrote in message ... Possibly the reason why the document is so large is that it has been heavily edited previously with track changes on but you are looking at it with display changes off, so a large number of changes (very large g) are hidden. Try tools | track changes | display changes on screen and see if this reveals a huge amount of changes, perhaps pages and pages of deletions. "Jean-Pierre" wrote in message ... Hello everybody, I received a very strange WORD document through E-Mail from an acquaintance who does not know very much about IT in general and WORD in particular. The mail contained an attachment of about 5 Mb as a WORD document. After downloading it reduced to 3.5 Mb, which is quite normal, apart from the fact that one should never send such large attachments. The strange thing, for that 3.5 Mb document, is that it was only 3 pages long, the "statistics" (from the "Properties" window) showing about 2000 characters, 22 paragraphs, etc. The only odd thing was the "Revision number = 34" and "Total editing time = 137 minutes". It shows no "Versions" from the File --- Version. When I saved it (just clicking on the "diskette" icon in the toolbar) the size reduced to... 146 kb. However, as my WORD is set up to automatically create a backup, the backup file was also 3.5 Mb. Any clue on what caused that document to use such a large amount of space and reduce so much by just re-saving it ? It was actually so big, because the downloading took quite a time ? Thank you in advance. Jean-Pierre Belgium |
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