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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
I created a table style based on Table Grid (Word 2003 SP3). I applied a blue
font color to the header row. I also set the font, font size, and bold for the header row. These settings are applied, but the header row color will not change no matter what I set the color to - it resets it to black every time. How can I get my style to accept blue for the header row color? Please help. TIA! |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
Can you successfully modify the Table Grid style in another document? If so,
you could then use the Organizer (Tools | Templates and Add-Ins, Organizer button) to copy it to the document where you are unable to modify it. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "C1ER" wrote in message ... I created a table style based on Table Grid (Word 2003 SP3). I applied a blue font color to the header row. I also set the font, font size, and bold for the header row. These settings are applied, but the header row color will not change no matter what I set the color to - it resets it to black every time. How can I get my style to accept blue for the header row color? Please help. TIA! |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
Yes, I was able to create the style in another document, but for some reason,
when I used Organizer to copy it over to my template, it resets the header color to black. I also tried to copy the style from the new document into my source document, but it resets the color to gray (not black, though). "Stefan Blom" wrote: Can you successfully modify the Table Grid style in another document? If so, you could then use the Organizer (Tools | Templates and Add-Ins, Organizer button) to copy it to the document where you are unable to modify it. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "C1ER" wrote in message ... I created a table style based on Table Grid (Word 2003 SP3). I applied a blue font color to the header row. I also set the font, font size, and bold for the header row. These settings are applied, but the header row color will not change no matter what I set the color to - it resets it to black every time. How can I get my style to accept blue for the header row color? Please help. TIA! |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
If you *reapply* the copied table style to the relevant table(s), does that
make a difference? You can use Ctrl+Alt+U to clear the formatting and then just apply the style again. Also, if you are referring to the text color, as opposed to the cell shading, note that table styles are a bit tricky with respect to those settings, as explained at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/tablestyles/index.html. :-( Applying the desired paragraph style to the text should work better. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "C1ER" wrote in message ... Yes, I was able to create the style in another document, but for some reason, when I used Organizer to copy it over to my template, it resets the header color to black. I also tried to copy the style from the new document into my source document, but it resets the color to gray (not black, though). "Stefan Blom" wrote: Can you successfully modify the Table Grid style in another document? If so, you could then use the Organizer (Tools | Templates and Add-Ins, Organizer button) to copy it to the document where you are unable to modify it. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "C1ER" wrote in message ... I created a table style based on Table Grid (Word 2003 SP3). I applied a blue font color to the header row. I also set the font, font size, and bold for the header row. These settings are applied, but the header row color will not change no matter what I set the color to - it resets it to black every time. How can I get my style to accept blue for the header row color? Please help. TIA! |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
Also, have you modified the color of the "Normal" paragraph styles?
The "Normal" paragraph style is applied to all table cells. Unfortunately, if you've modified some property of the Normal style, that will be applied in the table style too... You can't define that property in the table style any more. So, if you use table styles, it's best to leave the Normal paragraph style untouched from its default. Regards, Klaus |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
Reapplying the table style doesn't work, either, unfortunately. Thanks for
the article - this is helpful, and now I know I'm not crazy. I think we'll just go with the table style and accept the black text. Thanks for all your help! "Stefan Blom" wrote: If you *reapply* the copied table style to the relevant table(s), does that make a difference? You can use Ctrl+Alt+U to clear the formatting and then just apply the style again. Also, if you are referring to the text color, as opposed to the cell shading, note that table styles are a bit tricky with respect to those settings, as explained at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/tablestyles/index.html. :-( Applying the desired paragraph style to the text should work better. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "C1ER" wrote in message ... Yes, I was able to create the style in another document, but for some reason, when I used Organizer to copy it over to my template, it resets the header color to black. I also tried to copy the style from the new document into my source document, but it resets the color to gray (not black, though). "Stefan Blom" wrote: Can you successfully modify the Table Grid style in another document? If so, you could then use the Organizer (Tools | Templates and Add-Ins, Organizer button) to copy it to the document where you are unable to modify it. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "C1ER" wrote in message ... I created a table style based on Table Grid (Word 2003 SP3). I applied a blue font color to the header row. I also set the font, font size, and bold for the header row. These settings are applied, but the header row color will not change no matter what I set the color to - it resets it to black every time. How can I get my style to accept blue for the header row color? Please help. TIA! |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
No, I didn't change the Normal paragraph style, but I thought this might be
where it's picking up the black/Auto text setting. Thanks for the info! "Klaus Linke" wrote: Also, have you modified the color of the "Normal" paragraph styles? The "Normal" paragraph style is applied to all table cells. Unfortunately, if you've modified some property of the Normal style, that will be applied in the table style too... You can't define that property in the table style any more. So, if you use table styles, it's best to leave the Normal paragraph style untouched from its default. Regards, Klaus |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
Thank you for the feedback.
Note that you can save an example table, formatted the way you want it, as an AutoText entry and then insert the AutoText whenever you want that particular formatting. By using AutoText entries, you avoid the problems with table styles but, of course, unless you want to try macros there is no way to automatically update the formatting of existing tables inserted as AutoTexts. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "C1ER" wrote in message ... Reapplying the table style doesn't work, either, unfortunately. Thanks for the article - this is helpful, and now I know I'm not crazy. I think we'll just go with the table style and accept the black text. Thanks for all your help! "Stefan Blom" wrote: If you *reapply* the copied table style to the relevant table(s), does that make a difference? You can use Ctrl+Alt+U to clear the formatting and then just apply the style again. Also, if you are referring to the text color, as opposed to the cell shading, note that table styles are a bit tricky with respect to those settings, as explained at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/tablestyles/index.html. :-( Applying the desired paragraph style to the text should work better. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "C1ER" wrote in message ... Yes, I was able to create the style in another document, but for some reason, when I used Organizer to copy it over to my template, it resets the header color to black. I also tried to copy the style from the new document into my source document, but it resets the color to gray (not black, though). "Stefan Blom" wrote: Can you successfully modify the Table Grid style in another document? If so, you could then use the Organizer (Tools | Templates and Add-Ins, Organizer button) to copy it to the document where you are unable to modify it. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "C1ER" wrote in message ... I created a table style based on Table Grid (Word 2003 SP3). I applied a blue font color to the header row. I also set the font, font size, and bold for the header row. These settings are applied, but the header row color will not change no matter what I set the color to - it resets it to black every time. How can I get my style to accept blue for the header row color? Please help. TIA! |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
"C1ER" wrote:
No, I didn't change the Normal paragraph style, but I thought this might be where it's picking up the black/Auto text setting. Thanks for the info! If the Normal paragraph is set to Black, change it to "Automatic". That's the factory default. Regards, Klaus |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
I tried to change Normal to Automatic, but that keeps resetting to black as
well. "Klaus Linke" wrote: "C1ER" wrote: No, I didn't change the Normal paragraph style, but I thought this might be where it's picking up the black/Auto text setting. Thanks for the info! If the Normal paragraph is set to Black, change it to "Automatic". That's the factory default. Regards, Klaus |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
One trick to getting & keeping stable tables is to avoid setting font
characteristics in a table style. Use paragraph styles instead. Many technical documents have lots of tables that are quite different from each other and that require a lot of manual formatting. Table styles are great for quickly formatting them. But table style text settings tend to override manual formatting and paragraph styles. (Or the conflicting setting confuse Word.) Your best bet is to start fresh. Clear all formatting and then apply the unmodified table grid style. Create a new table style that is based on table grid and that does not have text formatting specified (font, size, color, horizontal alignment, etc.). Create your table paragraph styles. Three is often enough: table heading, table text, and table bullet. Now apply your new table style and table text paragraph style to the whole table, then apply the table heading and bullet styles appropriately. HTH, PamC C1ER wrote: Reapplying the table style doesn't work, either, unfortunately. Thanks for the article - this is helpful, and now I know I'm not crazy. I think we'll just go with the table style and accept the black text. Thanks for all your help! If you *reapply* the copied table style to the relevant table(s), does that make a difference? You can use Ctrl+Alt+U to clear the formatting and then [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] help. TIA! -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ables/200807/1 |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
Indeed, using paragraph styles to format the text in cells is better than
changing the font properties for the table style. And, of course, the approach can be successfully combined with the AutoText approach that I described in a previous message. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "PamC via OfficeKB.com" u43222@uwe wrote in message news:87f35714dd237@uwe... One trick to getting & keeping stable tables is to avoid setting font characteristics in a table style. Use paragraph styles instead. Many technical documents have lots of tables that are quite different from each other and that require a lot of manual formatting. Table styles are great for quickly formatting them. But table style text settings tend to override manual formatting and paragraph styles. (Or the conflicting setting confuse Word.) Your best bet is to start fresh. Clear all formatting and then apply the unmodified table grid style. Create a new table style that is based on table grid and that does not have text formatting specified (font, size, color, horizontal alignment, etc.). Create your table paragraph styles. Three is often enough: table heading, table text, and table bullet. Now apply your new table style and table text paragraph style to the whole table, then apply the table heading and bullet styles appropriately. HTH, PamC C1ER wrote: Reapplying the table style doesn't work, either, unfortunately. Thanks for the article - this is helpful, and now I know I'm not crazy. I think we'll just go with the table style and accept the black text. Thanks for all your help! If you *reapply* the copied table style to the relevant table(s), does that make a difference? You can use Ctrl+Alt+U to clear the formatting and then [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] help. TIA! -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ables/200807/1 |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
That's not the way I use table styles.
Why bother with table styles at all, if you have to apply paragraph styles on top? Regards, Klaus "Stefan Blom" wrote: Indeed, using paragraph styles to format the text in cells is better than changing the font properties for the table style. And, of course, the approach can be successfully combined with the AutoText approach that I described in a previous message. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
I guess I'm saying that since table styles are there (you cannot get rid of
them since each table has one applied) you might as well apply the settings that make sense (such as borders and shading) and leave the ones that don't (paragraph and font formatting) to paragraph styles. Personally I don't work them like that, however. Instead, I make use of AutoText if I need many tables in a document, and I use paragraph styles to format cell contents (see also the article at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/tablestyles/index.html). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Klaus Linke" wrote in message ... That's not the way I use table styles. Why bother with table styles at all, if you have to apply paragraph styles on top? Regards, Klaus "Stefan Blom" wrote: Indeed, using paragraph styles to format the text in cells is better than changing the font properties for the table style. And, of course, the approach can be successfully combined with the AutoText approach that I described in a previous message. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
I use table styles a great deal. I don't use auto text because I don't
create tables, I edit or format them. Usually no two tables are a like when it comes to the number of columns and rows, column widths. and column alignment. When they were first introduced, I quickly abandoned tables styles when I found that I could not have one column aligned on the decimal point without affecting the alignment of other columns and that the table font could not be made smaller than Normal (that may have changed--a lot of people fussed about it and refused to use table styles because of it). Instead I created paragraph styles for tables and manually applied setting to each one. Most of the formatters I've met do the same thing. About 10 months ago I read a book by Stephanie Krieger who recommended most of the methods I now use with table styles. The very next week I amazed myself with how quickly I got through about 20 tables from three different proposals, four different excel files, and from various Word files where the writers had gone wild with the colors and fonts. I had more time to look at content issues in the tables. My client was also pleased. I carry with me on my thumb drive a simple table style along with my editing add-on templates. But usually I create a custom table style with the rest of the template for a job. Stefan Blom wrote: I guess I'm saying that since table styles are there (you cannot get rid of them since each table has one applied) you might as well apply the settings that make sense (such as borders and shading) and leave the ones that don't (paragraph and font formatting) to paragraph styles. Personally I don't work them like that, however. Instead, I make use of AutoText if I need many tables in a document, and I use paragraph styles to format cell contents (see also the article at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/tablestyles/index.html). That's not the way I use table styles. Why bother with table styles at all, if you have to apply paragraph styles [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] And, of course, the approach can be successfully combined with the AutoText approach that I described in a previous message. -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ables/200808/1 |
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