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Old May 9th 05, 10:17 AM
Tjodrik
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Default Page number difficulties

I had split my document into two sections, the first with no first page
numbering, and having Roman numbers, and the second section with first page
numbering, and with Arabic numbers.

Because my document is to be printed and bound - with double pages - I have
to insert some blank pages in order to get my chapter headings on the right
page. I want these blank pages before the chapters to have no _visible_ page
number, but nevertheless count as a page.

For instance, I want page II to be blank (except the copyright stuff), and
the next page to be III, as the first visible page number. One would think
that the only thing to do was to split the document into more sections,
letting the blank pages be a section of its own with no paging. But that
doesn't work. If found out that the problem is that my document already has
page number formatting. Removing the page numbers does not help, as it simply
removes the numbers, not the formatting. At the left corner in Word, it still
says "page IV", "page 17" etc., even though the numbers aren't there. I've
tried to remove the "same as previous"-function in the headers-footers, but
that doesn't help at all. When I insert a section break after page II, and
insert page number to start with III, both the front page and what I want to
be page III are numbered as III. When I remove the page numbers from the
first section (which only has the pages III and IV), all page numbers from
the entire document disappears, even if they are in seperate sections and do
not have "same as previous" in the header/footer. I am very near at giving up
now. Please help.

I suspect that removing all page formatting, and then split sections and
break the connection first, _then_ page number them would help. But the page
formatting seems to be saved in the document - I cannot remove it (by
removing the page numbers).
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Old May 9th 05, 11:26 AM
Shauna Kelly
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Hi Tjodrik

Try the following article:
Create a non-blank, even-numbered page at the end of a chapter
http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/TblsFl...nPgEndChap.htm

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"Tjodrik" wrote in message
...
I had split my document into two sections, the first with no first page
numbering, and having Roman numbers, and the second section with first
page
numbering, and with Arabic numbers.

Because my document is to be printed and bound - with double pages - I
have
to insert some blank pages in order to get my chapter headings on the
right
page. I want these blank pages before the chapters to have no _visible_
page
number, but nevertheless count as a page.

For instance, I want page II to be blank (except the copyright stuff), and
the next page to be III, as the first visible page number. One would think
that the only thing to do was to split the document into more sections,
letting the blank pages be a section of its own with no paging. But that
doesn't work. If found out that the problem is that my document already
has
page number formatting. Removing the page numbers does not help, as it
simply
removes the numbers, not the formatting. At the left corner in Word, it
still
says "page IV", "page 17" etc., even though the numbers aren't there. I've
tried to remove the "same as previous"-function in the headers-footers,
but
that doesn't help at all. When I insert a section break after page II, and
insert page number to start with III, both the front page and what I want
to
be page III are numbered as III. When I remove the page numbers from the
first section (which only has the pages III and IV), all page numbers from
the entire document disappears, even if they are in seperate sections and
do
not have "same as previous" in the header/footer. I am very near at giving
up
now. Please help.

I suspect that removing all page formatting, and then split sections and
break the connection first, _then_ page number them would help. But the
page
formatting seems to be saved in the document - I cannot remove it (by
removing the page numbers).



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Old May 9th 05, 11:27 AM
Stefan Blom
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If you want your chapters to start on right (odd-numbered) pages,
simply insert an Odd Page section break before each of them. Also,
make sure that you enable the "Mirror margins" option on the Margins
tab of FilePage Setup.

Once you have the desired section formatting, you can proceed to work
with page numbers.

The type of numbers is determined for each section; whether
page numbers display or not depends on settings for headers and
footers. You can have up to three different headers (and three
different footers) in each section if you check "Different odd and
even" and "Different first page" options on the Layout tab of
FilePage Setup. This allows you to control where page numbers (and
any other header/footer contents) display in a given section. For
more, see http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/PageNumbering.htm

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Tjodrik" wrote in message
...
I had split my document into two sections, the first with no first

page
numbering, and having Roman numbers, and the second section with

first page
numbering, and with Arabic numbers.

Because my document is to be printed and bound - with double pages -

I have
to insert some blank pages in order to get my chapter headings on

the right
page. I want these blank pages before the chapters to have no

_visible_ page
number, but nevertheless count as a page.

For instance, I want page II to be blank (except the copyright

stuff), and
the next page to be III, as the first visible page number. One would

think
that the only thing to do was to split the document into more

sections,
letting the blank pages be a section of its own with no paging. But

that
doesn't work. If found out that the problem is that my document

already has
page number formatting. Removing the page numbers does not help, as

it simply
removes the numbers, not the formatting. At the left corner in Word,

it still
says "page IV", "page 17" etc., even though the numbers aren't

there. I've
tried to remove the "same as previous"-function in the

headers-footers, but
that doesn't help at all. When I insert a section break after page

II, and
insert page number to start with III, both the front page and what I

want to
be page III are numbered as III. When I remove the page numbers from

the
first section (which only has the pages III and IV), all page

numbers from
the entire document disappears, even if they are in seperate

sections and do
not have "same as previous" in the header/footer. I am very near at

giving up
now. Please help.

I suspect that removing all page formatting, and then split sections

and
break the connection first, _then_ page number them would help. But

the page
formatting seems to be saved in the document - I cannot remove it

(by
removing the page numbers).








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Old May 9th 05, 02:54 PM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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As Stefan has said, the key is to use "Odd page" section breaks to force
Word to generate blank pages. But see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...rontMatter.htm for some of
the other issues. Keep in mind that you can have up to three headers per
section (First Page, Even Page, Odd Page); see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Tjodrik" wrote in message
...
I had split my document into two sections, the first with no first page
numbering, and having Roman numbers, and the second section with first

page
numbering, and with Arabic numbers.

Because my document is to be printed and bound - with double pages - I

have
to insert some blank pages in order to get my chapter headings on the

right
page. I want these blank pages before the chapters to have no _visible_

page
number, but nevertheless count as a page.

For instance, I want page II to be blank (except the copyright stuff), and
the next page to be III, as the first visible page number. One would think
that the only thing to do was to split the document into more sections,
letting the blank pages be a section of its own with no paging. But that
doesn't work. If found out that the problem is that my document already

has
page number formatting. Removing the page numbers does not help, as it

simply
removes the numbers, not the formatting. At the left corner in Word, it

still
says "page IV", "page 17" etc., even though the numbers aren't there. I've
tried to remove the "same as previous"-function in the headers-footers,

but
that doesn't help at all. When I insert a section break after page II, and
insert page number to start with III, both the front page and what I want

to
be page III are numbered as III. When I remove the page numbers from the
first section (which only has the pages III and IV), all page numbers from
the entire document disappears, even if they are in seperate sections and

do
not have "same as previous" in the header/footer. I am very near at giving

up
now. Please help.

I suspect that removing all page formatting, and then split sections and
break the connection first, _then_ page number them would help. But the

page
formatting seems to be saved in the document - I cannot remove it (by
removing the page numbers).


 




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