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I want to load a PDF file (8 pages) as a Template/Backgroud/Watermark to fill in with Word the apropriate fields in the document and print it. Can anybody help me with this? TIA Melissa |
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I have a pdf file, 15 pages that want to open into MS word. Want to be able
to make use of spell check and grammar check at least -- George "Melissa" wrote: Hi, I want to load a PDF file (8 pages) as a Template/Backgroud/Watermark to fill in with Word the apropriate fields in the document and print it. Can anybody help me with this? TIA Melissa |
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1. Don't hijack another poster's thread.
2. Word does not open .pdf files. Contact the person who created the file and have them run spell and grammar check. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] "George A. Yorks" .(donotspam) wrote in message ... I have a pdf file, 15 pages that want to open into MS word. Want to be able to make use of spell check and grammar check at least -- George "Melissa" wrote: Hi, I want to load a PDF file (8 pages) as a Template/Backgroud/Watermark to fill in with Word the apropriate fields in the document and print it. Can anybody help me with this? TIA Melissa |
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PDF files are more or less a type of image, so in Word, they will just be
solid images, not text that you can edit, spellcheck, etc. Some PDFs will let you copy and paste text into Word okay--you could try doing that page by page. You could look for OCR software that would recognize the pictures of the letters and convert them into editable text. You could ask the person who provided the document for a Word file or some other editable format instead of PDF. On 8/30/06 8:48 PM, "George A. Yorks" wrote: I have a pdf file, 15 pages that want to open into MS word. Want to be able to make use of spell check and grammar check at least -- Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/ MacWord Tips: http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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"Daiya Mitchell" wrote: PDF files are more or less a type of image, so in Word, they will just be solid images, not text that you can edit, spellcheck, etc. I know, and I don't want to edit the PDF file. Some PDFs will let you copy and paste text into Word okay--you could try doing that page by page. That's just what I want to avoid. I would like to load the "complete" PDF file, and use it as a Template, Watermark or whatever so that I can fill in the fileds in Word. You could look for OCR software that would recognize the pictures of the letters and convert them into editable text. The document has to be the "original" PDF file. OCR or editing is out of the question. You could ask the person who provided the document for a Word file or some other editable format instead of PDF. Some instances have on their website a PDF file and a Word file. But most instances will publish a PDF file to printout and fill the fileds by hand. What I'm confronted with is the following, I had a stroke a few years ago and cannot fill in a document by hand anymore. A few lines, ok. But then it starts to become unreadable. On the otherhand, I can write very good on a computer or a typewriter. It's very easy for me to fill in a document in MS Word and print it out. But when the documents are PDF files, I have to load the pages one by one instead loading the whole document in Word as a Template/Watermark. I'm looking for an easier way to load these PDF files in a wordprocessor and fill in the fileds. TIA Melissa On 8/30/06 8:48 PM, "George A. Yorks" wrote: I have a pdf file, 15 pages that want to open into MS word. Want to be able to make use of spell check and grammar check at least -- Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/ MacWord Tips: http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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Hi Melissa,
I was actually responding to George, who did want to spellcheck--your message seemed old enough to have fallen off the servers. Did you never get an answer? I assume you are planning to print the PDF with your filled in answers, not submit it electronically? You can use Insert | Picture from File and navigate to the PDF file to insert it. This should get you the first page of the PDF file in a Word doc. You'll need to set the image to Behind Text (use Format | Picture). Then you'll have to mess around with spacing a lot to get the text in the right place. Unfortunately, Word will only let you insert an object of 1 page. So you would need to Insert each page separately, to get the entire 8 page document. I think you should be able to search the web for a utility that would break the PDF file into separate files for each page. This is obviously a big old hassle. On my Mac, I've got a lovely little app (Formulate) that lets you overlay type on PDFs for printing out forms (even if it wasn't created as fillable). You might search the web for a windows equivalent. You could start with these programs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software There seem to be options but I have no familiarity with them to recommend anything. Alternatively, search the web for websites of tips for people who have difficulty handwriting. I can't imagine there aren't some out there, and they may have a recommended product for this. (JoAnn, do you know of anything?) Daiya On 8/31/06 10:01 AM, "Melissa" wrote: "Daiya Mitchell" wrote: PDF files are more or less a type of image, so in Word, they will just be solid images, not text that you can edit, spellcheck, etc. I know, and I don't want to edit the PDF file. Some PDFs will let you copy and paste text into Word okay--you could try doing that page by page. That's just what I want to avoid. I would like to load the "complete" PDF file, and use it as a Template, Watermark or whatever so that I can fill in the fileds in Word. You could look for OCR software that would recognize the pictures of the letters and convert them into editable text. The document has to be the "original" PDF file. OCR or editing is out of the question. You could ask the person who provided the document for a Word file or some other editable format instead of PDF. Some instances have on their website a PDF file and a Word file. But most instances will publish a PDF file to printout and fill the fileds by hand. What I'm confronted with is the following, I had a stroke a few years ago and cannot fill in a document by hand anymore. A few lines, ok. But then it starts to become unreadable. On the otherhand, I can write very good on a computer or a typewriter. It's very easy for me to fill in a document in MS Word and print it out. But when the documents are PDF files, I have to load the pages one by one instead loading the whole document in Word as a Template/Watermark. I'm looking for an easier way to load these PDF files in a wordprocessor and fill in the fileds. TIA Melissa |
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If you want to create a fillable form out of the PDF, the best way to do that is to use Adobe Acrobat (the full version) to add form fields, assuming the pdf is not protected. It's expensive, though, so you might want to look for a cheaper program that does the same thing. PDFPen Pro on the Mac does it for $90, I don't know about Windows programs. -- Cardlaw |
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"Daiya Mitchell" wrote: Hi Melissa, Ho Daya I was actually responding to George, who did want to spellcheck--your message seemed old enough to have fallen off the servers. Did you never get an answer? No, all the answers (except yours) were about George and his spellcheck. I assume you are planning to print the PDF with your filled in answers, not submit it electronically? Exactly, 1. Load the "original" PDF file as a Template, 2. Fill in the required fields with MS Word, 3. Print the document and sign it. You can use Insert | Picture from File and navigate to the PDF file to insert it. This should get you the first page of the PDF file in a Word doc. You'll need to set the image to Behind Text (use Format | Picture). Then you'll have to mess around with spacing a lot to get the text in the right place. That's the way I do it now. Load the document into MS Word as a Header and set the image to "Behind Text". Then it is whole of changing spaces, paragraph settings and Letter Kerning to fit the text as much as possible into the required field. Unfortunately, Word will only let you insert an object of 1 page. So you would need to Insert each page separately, to get the entire 8 page document. I think you should be able to search the web for a utility that would break the PDF file into separate files for each page. I load the PDF file into Adobe Acrobat and open MS Word. Then I cut each page individualy from Acrobat and paste into MS Word. But for larger documents, this is a (excuse the words) "pain in the ass". This is obviously a big old hassle. On my Mac, I've got a lovely little app (Formulate) that lets you overlay type on PDFs for printing out forms (even if it wasn't created as fillable). "Formulate" could be the right stuff for what I need. I remember to have somewhere an utitlty that permits me to emulate Mac OS Version 7 on my PC (will try to find it on my 300 GB external harddisk). If that utilty works, I can try to get a copy of "Formulate". You might search the web for a windows equivalent. You could start with these programs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software There seem to be options but I have no familiarity with them to recommend anything. You have been already a BIG help, Daiya. Thanks a lot. Alternatively, search the web for websites of tips for people who have difficulty handwriting. I can't imagine there aren't some out there, and they may have a recommended product for this. I cannot believe that Microsoft nor Adobe have included in their Wordprocessing package a help for loading PDF files as a template. Microsoft has been a great help for the disabled people with their Windows (Accesibility), but seems to let the disabled people down in their Wordprocessor. Adobe has become the "standard" in Print Image Software (PDF) but has completely left the people who wants to fill in documents by a computer in the cold. If someone of the big guys of MS Word or Adobe is reading this, why can't you guys make something like "Formulate" for the PC? (JoAnn, do you know of anything?) Who is JoAnn? Thanks a lot Daiya, Melissa Daiya On 8/31/06 10:01 AM, "Melissa" wrote: "Daiya Mitchell" wrote: PDF files are more or less a type of image, so in Word, they will just be solid images, not text that you can edit, spellcheck, etc. I know, and I don't want to edit the PDF file. Some PDFs will let you copy and paste text into Word okay--you could try doing that page by page. That's just what I want to avoid. I would like to load the "complete" PDF file, and use it as a Template, Watermark or whatever so that I can fill in the fileds in Word. You could look for OCR software that would recognize the pictures of the letters and convert them into editable text. The document has to be the "original" PDF file. OCR or editing is out of the question. You could ask the person who provided the document for a Word file or some other editable format instead of PDF. Some instances have on their website a PDF file and a Word file. But most instances will publish a PDF file to printout and fill the fileds by hand. What I'm confronted with is the following, I had a stroke a few years ago and cannot fill in a document by hand anymore. A few lines, ok. But then it starts to become unreadable. On the otherhand, I can write very good on a computer or a typewriter. It's very easy for me to fill in a document in MS Word and print it out. But when the documents are PDF files, I have to load the pages one by one instead loading the whole document in Word as a Template/Watermark. I'm looking for an easier way to load these PDF files in a wordprocessor and fill in the fileds. TIA Melissa |
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Converting printed forms (including PDF) to Word editable forms is always
going to be a pain and far too much effort for a one-off. One easy way that you might like to consider is the forms filling module of some versions of ABBYY Finereader OCR software. Print the PDF, scan it into the Forms module and add the fields. This is quicker and cheaper than buying Acrobat for the job and makes one-off's more practical. Note that some forms are intended to be filled by hand for the purpose of handwriting analysis and will be rejected if filled on a PC. Check the instructions first. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Melissa wrote: "Daiya Mitchell" wrote: Hi Melissa, Ho Daya I was actually responding to George, who did want to spellcheck--your message seemed old enough to have fallen off the servers. Did you never get an answer? No, all the answers (except yours) were about George and his spellcheck. I assume you are planning to print the PDF with your filled in answers, not submit it electronically? Exactly, 1. Load the "original" PDF file as a Template, 2. Fill in the required fields with MS Word, 3. Print the document and sign it. You can use Insert | Picture from File and navigate to the PDF file to insert it. This should get you the first page of the PDF file in a Word doc. You'll need to set the image to Behind Text (use Format | Picture). Then you'll have to mess around with spacing a lot to get the text in the right place. That's the way I do it now. Load the document into MS Word as a Header and set the image to "Behind Text". Then it is whole of changing spaces, paragraph settings and Letter Kerning to fit the text as much as possible into the required field. Unfortunately, Word will only let you insert an object of 1 page. So you would need to Insert each page separately, to get the entire 8 page document. I think you should be able to search the web for a utility that would break the PDF file into separate files for each page. I load the PDF file into Adobe Acrobat and open MS Word. Then I cut each page individualy from Acrobat and paste into MS Word. But for larger documents, this is a (excuse the words) "pain in the ass". This is obviously a big old hassle. On my Mac, I've got a lovely little app (Formulate) that lets you overlay type on PDFs for printing out forms (even if it wasn't created as fillable). "Formulate" could be the right stuff for what I need. I remember to have somewhere an utitlty that permits me to emulate Mac OS Version 7 on my PC (will try to find it on my 300 GB external harddisk). If that utilty works, I can try to get a copy of "Formulate". You might search the web for a windows equivalent. You could start with these programs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software There seem to be options but I have no familiarity with them to recommend anything. You have been already a BIG help, Daiya. Thanks a lot. Alternatively, search the web for websites of tips for people who have difficulty handwriting. I can't imagine there aren't some out there, and they may have a recommended product for this. I cannot believe that Microsoft nor Adobe have included in their Wordprocessing package a help for loading PDF files as a template. Microsoft has been a great help for the disabled people with their Windows (Accesibility), but seems to let the disabled people down in their Wordprocessor. Adobe has become the "standard" in Print Image Software (PDF) but has completely left the people who wants to fill in documents by a computer in the cold. If someone of the big guys of MS Word or Adobe is reading this, why can't you guys make something like "Formulate" for the PC? (JoAnn, do you know of anything?) Who is JoAnn? Thanks a lot Daiya, Melissa Daiya On 8/31/06 10:01 AM, "Melissa" wrote: "Daiya Mitchell" wrote: PDF files are more or less a type of image, so in Word, they will just be solid images, not text that you can edit, spellcheck, etc. I know, and I don't want to edit the PDF file. Some PDFs will let you copy and paste text into Word okay--you could try doing that page by page. That's just what I want to avoid. I would like to load the "complete" PDF file, and use it as a Template, Watermark or whatever so that I can fill in the fileds in Word. You could look for OCR software that would recognize the pictures of the letters and convert them into editable text. The document has to be the "original" PDF file. OCR or editing is out of the question. You could ask the person who provided the document for a Word file or some other editable format instead of PDF. Some instances have on their website a PDF file and a Word file. But most instances will publish a PDF file to printout and fill the fileds by hand. What I'm confronted with is the following, I had a stroke a few years ago and cannot fill in a document by hand anymore. A few lines, ok. But then it starts to become unreadable. On the otherhand, I can write very good on a computer or a typewriter. It's very easy for me to fill in a document in MS Word and print it out. But when the documents are PDF files, I have to load the pages one by one instead loading the whole document in Word as a Template/Watermark. I'm looking for an easier way to load these PDF files in a wordprocessor and fill in the fileds. TIA Melissa |
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Hi Melissa,
If you have Acrobat, and not just Acrobat Reader/Adobe Reader, you might be set. You should be able to type right onto the document in Acrobat. I've done this in Acrobat Pro 6--I'm not sure what the differences are, or which you have. It's not as easy as it should be, but it works. Aha, found the link from yesterday. It says, for forms without real fillable fields: "Use the Text Box tool (formerly the Free Text tool) or the TouchUp Text tool to type text in the document. (For more information about using the Text Box tool and TouchUp Text tool, see the Acrobat Help.)" http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/328647.html The Mac version 7 thing wouldn't work for Formulate, which runs on a newer version, so don't waste any energy there. Sorry, I just realized you had already sorted out the troublesome way in Word and were looking for an easier way. I'm guessing that's why you didn't get responses the first time. Daiya On 8/31/06 7:18 PM, "Melissa" wrote: "Daiya Mitchell" wrote: Hi Melissa, Ho Daya I was actually responding to George, who did want to spellcheck--your message seemed old enough to have fallen off the servers. Did you never get an answer? No, all the answers (except yours) were about George and his spellcheck. I assume you are planning to print the PDF with your filled in answers, not submit it electronically? Exactly, 1. Load the "original" PDF file as a Template, 2. Fill in the required fields with MS Word, 3. Print the document and sign it. You can use Insert | Picture from File and navigate to the PDF file to insert it. This should get you the first page of the PDF file in a Word doc. You'll need to set the image to Behind Text (use Format | Picture). Then you'll have to mess around with spacing a lot to get the text in the right place. That's the way I do it now. Load the document into MS Word as a Header and set the image to "Behind Text". Then it is whole of changing spaces, paragraph settings and Letter Kerning to fit the text as much as possible into the required field. Unfortunately, Word will only let you insert an object of 1 page. So you would need to Insert each page separately, to get the entire 8 page document. I think you should be able to search the web for a utility that would break the PDF file into separate files for each page. I load the PDF file into Adobe Acrobat and open MS Word. Then I cut each page individualy from Acrobat and paste into MS Word. But for larger documents, this is a (excuse the words) "pain in the ass". This is obviously a big old hassle. On my Mac, I've got a lovely little app (Formulate) that lets you overlay type on PDFs for printing out forms (even if it wasn't created as fillable). "Formulate" could be the right stuff for what I need. I remember to have somewhere an utitlty that permits me to emulate Mac OS Version 7 on my PC (will try to find it on my 300 GB external harddisk). If that utilty works, I can try to get a copy of "Formulate". You might search the web for a windows equivalent. You could start with these programs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software There seem to be options but I have no familiarity with them to recommend anything. You have been already a BIG help, Daiya. Thanks a lot. Alternatively, search the web for websites of tips for people who have difficulty handwriting. I can't imagine there aren't some out there, and they may have a recommended product for this. I cannot believe that Microsoft nor Adobe have included in their Wordprocessing package a help for loading PDF files as a template. Microsoft has been a great help for the disabled people with their Windows (Accesibility), but seems to let the disabled people down in their Wordprocessor. Adobe has become the "standard" in Print Image Software (PDF) but has completely left the people who wants to fill in documents by a computer in the cold. If someone of the big guys of MS Word or Adobe is reading this, why can't you guys make something like "Formulate" for the PC? (JoAnn, do you know of anything?) Who is JoAnn? Thanks a lot Daiya, Melissa Daiya On 8/31/06 10:01 AM, "Melissa" wrote: What I'm confronted with is the following, I had a stroke a few years ago and cannot fill in a document by hand anymore. A few lines, ok. But then it starts to become unreadable. On the otherhand, I can write very good on a computer or a typewriter. It's very easy for me to fill in a document in MS Word and print it out. But when the documents are PDF files, I have to load the pages one by one instead loading the whole document in Word as a Template/Watermark. I'm looking for an easier way to load these PDF files in a wordprocessor and fill in the fileds. TIA Melissa -- Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/ MacWord Tips: http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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"Graham Mayor" wrote:
Converting printed forms (including PDF) to Word editable forms is always going to be a pain and far too much effort for a one-off. One easy way that you might like to consider is the forms filling module of some versions of ABBYY Finereader OCR software. Print the PDF, scan it into the Forms module and add the fields. This is quicker and cheaper than buying Acrobat for the job and makes one-off's more practical. I dont know how much the price is for a full version of Adobe Acrobat. Anyhow, the price for a full version of Adobe Acrobat is not justified as I only need to fill-in PDF-forms a few times per year. Note that some forms are intended to be filled by hand for the purpose of handwriting analysis and will be rejected if filled on a PC. Check the instructions first. I know the restrictions for filling in (PDF) forms by computer. Bost of the publishers of these forms dont care about the form filled in by computer or typewriter. But 99% of them require an original handwritten signature. Thanks for your response on the subject, Melissa -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Melissa wrote: "Daiya Mitchell" wrote: Hi Melissa, Ho Daya I was actually responding to George, who did want to spellcheck--your message seemed old enough to have fallen off the servers. Did you never get an answer? No, all the answers (except yours) were about George and his spellcheck. I assume you are planning to print the PDF with your filled in answers, not submit it electronically? Exactly, 1. Load the "original" PDF file as a Template, 2. Fill in the required fields with MS Word, 3. Print the document and sign it. You can use Insert | Picture from File and navigate to the PDF file to insert it. This should get you the first page of the PDF file in a Word doc. You'll need to set the image to Behind Text (use Format | Picture). Then you'll have to mess around with spacing a lot to get the text in the right place. That's the way I do it now. Load the document into MS Word as a Header and set the image to "Behind Text". Then it is whole of changing spaces, paragraph settings and Letter Kerning to fit the text as much as possible into the required field. Unfortunately, Word will only let you insert an object of 1 page. So you would need to Insert each page separately, to get the entire 8 page document. I think you should be able to search the web for a utility that would break the PDF file into separate files for each page. I load the PDF file into Adobe Acrobat and open MS Word. Then I cut each page individualy from Acrobat and paste into MS Word. But for larger documents, this is a (excuse the words) "pain in the ass". This is obviously a big old hassle. On my Mac, I've got a lovely little app (Formulate) that lets you overlay type on PDFs for printing out forms (even if it wasn't created as fillable). "Formulate" could be the right stuff for what I need. I remember to have somewhere an utitlty that permits me to emulate Mac OS Version 7 on my PC (will try to find it on my 300 GB external harddisk). If that utilty works, I can try to get a copy of "Formulate". You might search the web for a windows equivalent. You could start with these programs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software There seem to be options but I have no familiarity with them to recommend anything. You have been already a BIG help, Daiya. Thanks a lot. Alternatively, search the web for websites of tips for people who have difficulty handwriting. I can't imagine there aren't some out there, and they may have a recommended product for this. I cannot believe that Microsoft nor Adobe have included in their Wordprocessing package a help for loading PDF files as a template. Microsoft has been a great help for the disabled people with their Windows (Accesibility), but seems to let the disabled people down in their Wordprocessor. Adobe has become the "standard" in Print Image Software (PDF) but has completely left the people who wants to fill in documents by a computer in the cold. If someone of the big guys of MS Word or Adobe is reading this, why can't you guys make something like "Formulate" for the PC? (JoAnn, do you know of anything?) Who is JoAnn? Thanks a lot Daiya, Melissa Daiya On 8/31/06 10:01 AM, "Melissa" wrote: "Daiya Mitchell" wrote: PDF files are more or less a type of image, so in Word, they will just be solid images, not text that you can edit, spellcheck, etc. I know, and I don't want to edit the PDF file. Some PDFs will let you copy and paste text into Word okay--you could try doing that page by page. That's just what I want to avoid. I would like to load the "complete" PDF file, and use it as a Template, Watermark or whatever so that I can fill in the fileds in Word. You could look for OCR software that would recognize the pictures of the letters and convert them into editable text. The document has to be the "original" PDF file. OCR or editing is out of the question. You could ask the person who provided the document for a Word file or some other editable format instead of PDF. Some instances have on their website a PDF file and a Word file. But most instances will publish a PDF file to printout and fill the fileds by hand. What I'm confronted with is the following, I had a stroke a few years ago and cannot fill in a document by hand anymore. A few lines, ok. But then it starts to become unreadable. On the otherhand, I can write very good on a computer or a typewriter. It's very easy for me to fill in a document in MS Word and print it out. But when the documents are PDF files, I have to load the pages one by one instead loading the whole document in Word as a Template/Watermark. I'm looking for an easier way to load these PDF files in a wordprocessor and fill in the fileds. TIA Melissa |
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"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:
Hi Melissa, Hi Daiya, If you have Acrobat, and not just Acrobat Reader/Adobe Reader, you might be set. You should be able to type right onto the document in Acrobat. I've done this in Acrobat Pro 6--I'm not sure what the differences are, or which you have. It's not as easy as it should be, but it works. I have Adobe Acrobat 7 on my computer, but that's only the reader (freeware) version. Aha, found the link from yesterday. It says, for forms without real fillable fields: "Use the Text Box tool (formerly the Free Text tool) or the TouchUp Text tool to type text in the document. (For more information about using the Text Box tool and TouchUp Text tool, see the Acrobat Help.)" http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/328647.html A full Adobe Acrobat version only for filling in a few documents in a year, doesn't justify the expense. The Mac version 7 thing wouldn't work for Formulate, which runs on a newer version, so don't waste any energy there. -); Sorry, I just realized you had already sorted out the troublesome way in Word and were looking for an easier way. I'm guessing that's why you didn't get responses the first time. Possible. Like I do it now with MS Word is a teadious job. But for me it's the only way to fill in the fields in readable text. Thaks for your answer, Daiya Daiya On 8/31/06 7:18 PM, "Melissa" wrote: "Daiya Mitchell" wrote: Hi Melissa, Ho Daya I was actually responding to George, who did want to spellcheck--your message seemed old enough to have fallen off the servers. Did you never get an answer? No, all the answers (except yours) were about George and his spellcheck. I assume you are planning to print the PDF with your filled in answers, not submit it electronically? Exactly, 1. Load the "original" PDF file as a Template, 2. Fill in the required fields with MS Word, 3. Print the document and sign it. You can use Insert | Picture from File and navigate to the PDF file to insert it. This should get you the first page of the PDF file in a Word doc. You'll need to set the image to Behind Text (use Format | Picture). Then you'll have to mess around with spacing a lot to get the text in the right place. That's the way I do it now. Load the document into MS Word as a Header and set the image to "Behind Text". Then it is whole of changing spaces, paragraph settings and Letter Kerning to fit the text as much as possible into the required field. Unfortunately, Word will only let you insert an object of 1 page. So you would need to Insert each page separately, to get the entire 8 page document. I think you should be able to search the web for a utility that would break the PDF file into separate files for each page. I load the PDF file into Adobe Acrobat and open MS Word. Then I cut each page individualy from Acrobat and paste into MS Word. But for larger documents, this is a (excuse the words) "pain in the ass". This is obviously a big old hassle. On my Mac, I've got a lovely little app (Formulate) that lets you overlay type on PDFs for printing out forms (even if it wasn't created as fillable). "Formulate" could be the right stuff for what I need. I remember to have somewhere an utitlty that permits me to emulate Mac OS Version 7 on my PC (will try to find it on my 300 GB external harddisk). If that utilty works, I can try to get a copy of "Formulate". You might search the web for a windows equivalent. You could start with these programs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software There seem to be options but I have no familiarity with them to recommend anything. You have been already a BIG help, Daiya. Thanks a lot. Alternatively, search the web for websites of tips for people who have difficulty handwriting. I can't imagine there aren't some out there, and they may have a recommended product for this. I cannot believe that Microsoft nor Adobe have included in their Wordprocessing package a help for loading PDF files as a template. Microsoft has been a great help for the disabled people with their Windows (Accesibility), but seems to let the disabled people down in their Wordprocessor. Adobe has become the "standard" in Print Image Software (PDF) but has completely left the people who wants to fill in documents by a computer in the cold. If someone of the big guys of MS Word or Adobe is reading this, why can't you guys make something like "Formulate" for the PC? (JoAnn, do you know of anything?) Who is JoAnn? Thanks a lot Daiya, Melissa Daiya On 8/31/06 10:01 AM, "Melissa" wrote: What I'm confronted with is the following, I had a stroke a few years ago and cannot fill in a document by hand anymore. A few lines, ok. But then it starts to become unreadable. On the otherhand, I can write very good on a computer or a typewriter. It's very easy for me to fill in a document in MS Word and print it out. But when the documents are PDF files, I have to load the pages one by one instead loading the whole document in Word as a Template/Watermark. I'm looking for an easier way to load these PDF files in a wordprocessor and fill in the fileds. TIA Melissa -- Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/ MacWord Tips: http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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If you want to create a fillable form out of the PDF, the best way to do that is to use Adobe Acrobat (the full version) to add form fields, assuming the pdf is not protected. It's expensive, though, so you might want to look for a cheaper program that does the same thing. PDFPen Pro on the Mac does it for $90, I don't know about Windows programs. I have been searching for software that can do the job easier many times. One of the better software, and not too expensive is EZ-Forms. There are a lot of software packages that can be used to fill-in fields in PDS or scanned files. I only wanted to avoid to buy another software package for typing a few forms a year. Regards, Melissa -- Cardlaw |
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Note that the name Acrobat now applies only to the PDF creation software.
Adobe Reader is the name for the reader. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Melissa" wrote in message news "Daiya Mitchell" wrote: Hi Melissa, Hi Daiya, If you have Acrobat, and not just Acrobat Reader/Adobe Reader, you might be set. You should be able to type right onto the document in Acrobat. I've done this in Acrobat Pro 6--I'm not sure what the differences are, or which you have. It's not as easy as it should be, but it works. I have Adobe Acrobat 7 on my computer, but that's only the reader (freeware) version. Aha, found the link from yesterday. It says, for forms without real fillable fields: "Use the Text Box tool (formerly the Free Text tool) or the TouchUp Text tool to type text in the document. (For more information about using the Text Box tool and TouchUp Text tool, see the Acrobat Help.)" http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/328647.html A full Adobe Acrobat version only for filling in a few documents in a year, doesn't justify the expense. The Mac version 7 thing wouldn't work for Formulate, which runs on a newer version, so don't waste any energy there. -); Sorry, I just realized you had already sorted out the troublesome way in Word and were looking for an easier way. I'm guessing that's why you didn't get responses the first time. Possible. Like I do it now with MS Word is a teadious job. But for me it's the only way to fill in the fields in readable text. Thaks for your answer, Daiya Daiya On 8/31/06 7:18 PM, "Melissa" wrote: "Daiya Mitchell" wrote: Hi Melissa, Ho Daya I was actually responding to George, who did want to spellcheck--your message seemed old enough to have fallen off the servers. Did you never get an answer? No, all the answers (except yours) were about George and his spellcheck. I assume you are planning to print the PDF with your filled in answers, not submit it electronically? Exactly, 1. Load the "original" PDF file as a Template, 2. Fill in the required fields with MS Word, 3. Print the document and sign it. You can use Insert | Picture from File and navigate to the PDF file to insert it. This should get you the first page of the PDF file in a Word doc. You'll need to set the image to Behind Text (use Format | Picture). Then you'll have to mess around with spacing a lot to get the text in the right place. That's the way I do it now. Load the document into MS Word as a Header and set the image to "Behind Text". Then it is whole of changing spaces, paragraph settings and Letter Kerning to fit the text as much as possible into the required field. Unfortunately, Word will only let you insert an object of 1 page. So you would need to Insert each page separately, to get the entire 8 page document. I think you should be able to search the web for a utility that would break the PDF file into separate files for each page. I load the PDF file into Adobe Acrobat and open MS Word. Then I cut each page individualy from Acrobat and paste into MS Word. But for larger documents, this is a (excuse the words) "pain in the ass". This is obviously a big old hassle. On my Mac, I've got a lovely little app (Formulate) that lets you overlay type on PDFs for printing out forms (even if it wasn't created as fillable). "Formulate" could be the right stuff for what I need. I remember to have somewhere an utitlty that permits me to emulate Mac OS Version 7 on my PC (will try to find it on my 300 GB external harddisk). If that utilty works, I can try to get a copy of "Formulate". You might search the web for a windows equivalent. You could start with these programs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software There seem to be options but I have no familiarity with them to recommend anything. You have been already a BIG help, Daiya. Thanks a lot. Alternatively, search the web for websites of tips for people who have difficulty handwriting. I can't imagine there aren't some out there, and they may have a recommended product for this. I cannot believe that Microsoft nor Adobe have included in their Wordprocessing package a help for loading PDF files as a template. Microsoft has been a great help for the disabled people with their Windows (Accesibility), but seems to let the disabled people down in their Wordprocessor. Adobe has become the "standard" in Print Image Software (PDF) but has completely left the people who wants to fill in documents by a computer in the cold. If someone of the big guys of MS Word or Adobe is reading this, why can't you guys make something like "Formulate" for the PC? (JoAnn, do you know of anything?) Who is JoAnn? Thanks a lot Daiya, Melissa Daiya On 8/31/06 10:01 AM, "Melissa" wrote: What I'm confronted with is the following, I had a stroke a few years ago and cannot fill in a document by hand anymore. A few lines, ok. But then it starts to become unreadable. On the otherhand, I can write very good on a computer or a typewriter. It's very easy for me to fill in a document in MS Word and print it out. But when the documents are PDF files, I have to load the pages one by one instead loading the whole document in Word as a Template/Watermark. I'm looking for an easier way to load these PDF files in a wordprocessor and fill in the fileds. TIA Melissa -- Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/ MacWord Tips: http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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