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Hi, I'm new to the forum - hope you can help me out!

I have a document that was originally English but has been translated into Chinese. However it has been done so that it is now a bilingual document, with the translated text inserted below each paragraph using a manual line break to separate the English text from the Chinese text. The Chinese text has then been formatted with a blue font colour to make the document visually easier to read.

I have applied the \X switch in the TOC field to recognise the line breaks in the TOC, so the TOC is displayed with the Chinese heading text underneath the English heading text as per the main body of the document.

However, the TOC only displays the Chinese text in black, despite it being formatted blue in the headings. Is there any way to display this in the TOC so the English text in the heading is black and the Chinese text is blue?
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In case there isn't a way to format the color automatically, a way to
handle it would be, after you're absolutely sure that everything in
the ToC is absolutely correct, convert the ToC to plain text and apply
the color manually.

On Apr 13, 9:33*am, kipster wrote:
Hi, I'm new to the forum - *hope you can help me out!

I have a document that was originally English but has been translated
into Chinese. However it has been done so that it is now a bilingual
document, with the translated text inserted below each paragraph using a
manual line break to separate the English text from the Chinese text.
The Chinese text has then been formatted with a blue font colour to make
the document visually easier to read.

I have applied the \X switch in the TOC field to recognise the line
breaks in the TOC, so the TOC is displayed with the Chinese heading text
underneath the English heading text as per the main body of the
document.

However, the TOC only displays the Chinese text in black, despite it
being formatted blue in the headings. Is there any way to display this
in the TOC so the English text in the heading is black and the Chinese
text is blue?

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How did you apply the color to text? By default, direct font formatting
(that is, formatting not applied via a style) should reflect in the TOC.

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"kipster" wrote in message ...
Hi, I'm new to the forum - hope you can help me out!

I have a document that was originally English but has been translated
into Chinese. However it has been done so that it is now a bilingual
document, with the translated text inserted below each paragraph using a
manual line break to separate the English text from the Chinese text.
The Chinese text has then been formatted with a blue font colour to make
the document visually easier to read.

I have applied the \X switch in the TOC field to recognise the line
breaks in the TOC, so the TOC is displayed with the Chinese heading text
underneath the English heading text as per the main body of the
document.

However, the TOC only displays the Chinese text in black, despite it
being formatted blue in the headings. Is there any way to display this
in the TOC so the English text in the heading is black and the Chinese
text is blue?




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Actually, this has come up before, and I found, to my surprise, that while
many kinds of direct font formatting (bold, italic, underline, All Caps,
small caps, and the like) are reflected in the TOC, font color is not.
Another example of Word doing just the opposite of what would really be
helpful.

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http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
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How did you apply the color to text? By default, direct font formatting
(that is, formatting not applied via a style) should reflect in the TOC.

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"kipster" wrote in message ...
Hi, I'm new to the forum - hope you can help me out!

I have a document that was originally English but has been translated
into Chinese. However it has been done so that it is now a bilingual
document, with the translated text inserted below each paragraph using a
manual line break to separate the English text from the Chinese text.
The Chinese text has then been formatted with a blue font colour to make
the document visually easier to read.

I have applied the \X switch in the TOC field to recognise the line
breaks in the TOC, so the TOC is displayed with the Chinese heading text
underneath the English heading text as per the main body of the
document.

However, the TOC only displays the Chinese text in black, despite it
being formatted blue in the headings. Is there any way to display this
in the TOC so the English text in the heading is black and the Chinese
text is blue?




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Hi,

you didn't mention the Word version.

I have a document that was originally English but
has been translated into Chinese. However it has
been done so that it is now a bilingual document,
with the translated text inserted below each paragraph
using a manual line break to separate the English text
from the Chinese text.


You didn't choose the best way. Instead of separating Chinese text from
English text by manual breaks, paragraph marks would have been the
better way. English and Chinese text should be formatted by different
styles (including different font colour). So a TOC could have been
created by entries of 2 different styles, and also the TOC could have
used 2 different styles to reflect the colours.

However, the TOC only displays the Chinese text in
black, despite it being formatted blue in the headings.
Is there any way to display this in the TOC so the English
text in the heading is black and the Chinese text is blue?


Create a paragraph style for Englisch text, create another one for
Chinese text.
Then modify your document. Replace manual line breaks (^l) by
paragraph marks (^p):

Strg + H
More
Find: ^l
Replace: ^p
Replace all

Now select all blue coloured text. For that you can use the Styles pane
("select all # instances).
Or use the Find dialog:

Strg + H
Alt + F
Format | Font | Colour ...
Highlight all items found in ...

Apply your Chinese style to all selected paragraphs.
In a similar way apply the English style to the other paragraphs.

When inserting a TOC choose "Options". Apply 2 different TOC levels to
your English and Chinese style (e. g. TOC level 1 and TOC level 2).
So the TOC will be formatted by 2 different styles (TOC1, TOC2). Modify
those styles to reflect different colours.

Regards from Germany
Lisa




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I vaguely recall that discussion. However, I have tested this in Word 2010,
and it seems to work as expected in that version, that is, direct color
formatting is visible in the TOC.

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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...

Actually, this has come up before, and I found, to my surprise, that while
many kinds of direct font formatting (bold, italic, underline, All Caps,
small caps, and the like) are reflected in the TOC, font color is not.
Another example of Word doing just the opposite of what would really be
helpful.

--
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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
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How did you apply the color to text? By default, direct font formatting
(that is, formatting not applied via a style) should reflect in the TOC.

-- 
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Microsoft Word MVP




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"kipster" wrote in message ...
Hi, I'm new to the forum - hope you can help me out!

I have a document that was originally English but has been translated
into Chinese. However it has been done so that it is now a bilingual
document, with the translated text inserted below each paragraph using a
manual line break to separate the English text from the Chinese text.
The Chinese text has then been formatted with a blue font colour to make
the document visually easier to read.

I have applied the \X switch in the TOC field to recognise the line
breaks in the TOC, so the TOC is displayed with the Chinese heading text
underneath the English heading text as per the main body of the
document.

However, the TOC only displays the Chinese text in black, despite it
being formatted blue in the headings. Is there any way to display this
in the TOC so the English text in the heading is black and the Chinese
text is blue?




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Interestingly, I'm not seeing that at all, even in Word 2010 (at least not
running on Windows XP--haven't tested in Windows 7).

Actually, worse still, I'm seeing it intermittently. I can get blue to show
up sometimes but never red. I thought perhaps it was a distinction between
theme colors and standard colors, but it's not that simple.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
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I vaguely recall that discussion. However, I have tested this in Word 2010,
and it seems to work as expected in that version, that is, direct color
formatting is visible in the TOC.

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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...

Actually, this has come up before, and I found, to my surprise, that while
many kinds of direct font formatting (bold, italic, underline, All Caps,
small caps, and the like) are reflected in the TOC, font color is not.
Another example of Word doing just the opposite of what would really be
helpful.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
How did you apply the color to text? By default, direct font formatting
(that is, formatting not applied via a style) should reflect in the TOC.

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




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"kipster" wrote in message ...
Hi, I'm new to the forum - hope you can help me out!

I have a document that was originally English but has been translated
into Chinese. However it has been done so that it is now a bilingual
document, with the translated text inserted below each paragraph using a
manual line break to separate the English text from the Chinese text.
The Chinese text has then been formatted with a blue font colour to make
the document visually easier to read.

I have applied the \X switch in the TOC field to recognise the line
breaks in the TOC, so the TOC is displayed with the Chinese heading text
underneath the English heading text as per the main body of the
document.

However, the TOC only displays the Chinese text in black, despite it
being formatted blue in the headings. Is there any way to display this
in the TOC so the English text in the heading is black and the Chinese
text is blue?




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OK, my limited testing seemed to indicate that all is now well (Word 2010 on
Windows 7). If the issue occurs intermittently, I could have missed it. :-(

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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...

Interestingly, I'm not seeing that at all, even in Word 2010 (at least not
running on Windows XP--haven't tested in Windows 7).

Actually, worse still, I'm seeing it intermittently. I can get blue to show
up sometimes but never red. I thought perhaps it was a distinction between
theme colors and standard colors, but it's not that simple.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
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I vaguely recall that discussion. However, I have tested this in Word 2010,
and it seems to work as expected in that version, that is, direct color
formatting is visible in the TOC.

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...

Actually, this has come up before, and I found, to my surprise, that while
many kinds of direct font formatting (bold, italic, underline, All Caps,
small caps, and the like) are reflected in the TOC, font color is not.
Another example of Word doing just the opposite of what would really be
helpful.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
How did you apply the color to text? By default, direct font formatting
(that is, formatting not applied via a style) should reflect in the TOC.

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




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"kipster" wrote in message ...
Hi, I'm new to the forum - hope you can help me out!

I have a document that was originally English but has been translated
into Chinese. However it has been done so that it is now a bilingual
document, with the translated text inserted below each paragraph using a
manual line break to separate the English text from the Chinese text.
The Chinese text has then been formatted with a blue font colour to make
the document visually easier to read.

I have applied the \X switch in the TOC field to recognise the line
breaks in the TOC, so the TOC is displayed with the Chinese heading text
underneath the English heading text as per the main body of the
document.

However, the TOC only displays the Chinese text in black, despite it
being formatted blue in the headings. Is there any way to display this
in the TOC so the English text in the heading is black and the Chinese
text is blue?




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Thanks for all your replies. The font colour was applied as direct formatting but unfortunately I am limited to Word 2003 here at work, so it looks like the easiest way to resolve my particular problem would be Peter's suggestion to convert the TOC to unformatted text and apply formatting manually.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lisa Wilke-Thissen View Post
Hi,

You didn't choose the best way. Instead of separating Chinese text from
English text by manual breaks, paragraph marks would have been the
better way. English and Chinese text should be formatted by different
styles (including different font colour). So a TOC could have been
created by entries of 2 different styles, and also the TOC could have
used 2 different styles to reflect the colours.

Lisa
I could do this but it is quite a complex document with many different styles (outline numbered headings, paragraph styles, table styles & list styles). This is probably why the translator used manual breaks to preserve the formatting for the translated text. In this case I think it would be too much work creating new styles. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.
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Hi Suzanne, hi Stefan,

colors coming from theme colors, and being applied directly to text,
seem to be considered in the TOC.
But just "Text"-colors (Text 1, Text 2), not Background, Accent 1...)
are considered. However, the color in the TOC is not the same as used
in the main text:
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \x }

Removing \h in the TOC, and additionally (or instead of) using the
switch \u, will reflect colors of main text in the TOC:

{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \x }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \u }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \u}

--
Regards from Germany
Lisa [MS MVP Word]


"Stefan Blom" wrote
OK, my limited testing seemed to indicate that all is now well (Word
2010 on Windows 7). If the issue occurs intermittently, I could have
missed it. :-(



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote
Interestingly, I'm not seeing that at all, even in Word 2010 (at
least not running on Windows XP--haven't tested in Windows 7).
Actually, worse still, I'm seeing it intermittently. I can get
blue to show up sometimes but never red. I thought perhaps
it was a distinction between theme colors and standard colors, but
it's not that simple.





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Thanks, as always, for your attention to detail, Lisa. Seems like this is
something it might be worthwhile to bring up with the Word team, as it seems
to me that color should at least be handled consistently, though of course
it would be most desirable for color to be treated the same as other font
properties (italic, bold, etc.).

--
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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Lisa Wilke-Thissen" wrote in message
...
Hi Suzanne, hi Stefan,

colors coming from theme colors, and being applied directly to text, seem
to be considered in the TOC.
But just "Text"-colors (Text 1, Text 2), not Background, Accent 1...) are
considered. However, the color in the TOC is not the same as used in the
main text:
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \x }

Removing \h in the TOC, and additionally (or instead of) using the switch
\u, will reflect colors of main text in the TOC:

{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \x }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \u }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \u}

--
Regards from Germany
Lisa [MS MVP Word]


"Stefan Blom" wrote
OK, my limited testing seemed to indicate that all is now well (Word 2010
on Windows 7). If the issue occurs intermittently, I could have missed
it. :-(



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote
Interestingly, I'm not seeing that at all, even in Word 2010 (at least
not running on Windows XP--haven't tested in Windows 7).
Actually, worse still, I'm seeing it intermittently. I can get
blue to show up sometimes but never red. I thought perhaps
it was a distinction between theme colors and standard colors, but it's
not that simple.





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Lisa, Suzanne:

Colors seem to behave if you delete the \h (hyperlink) switch from the TOC
field code.

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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...

Thanks, as always, for your attention to detail, Lisa. Seems like this is
something it might be worthwhile to bring up with the Word team, as it seems
to me that color should at least be handled consistently, though of course
it would be most desirable for color to be treated the same as other font
properties (italic, bold, etc.).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Lisa Wilke-Thissen" wrote in message
...
Hi Suzanne, hi Stefan,

colors coming from theme colors, and being applied directly to text, seem
to be considered in the TOC.
But just "Text"-colors (Text 1, Text 2), not Background, Accent 1...) are
considered. However, the color in the TOC is not the same as used in the
main text:
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \x }

Removing \h in the TOC, and additionally (or instead of) using the switch
\u, will reflect colors of main text in the TOC:

{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \x }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \u }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \u}

--
Regards from Germany
Lisa [MS MVP Word]


"Stefan Blom" wrote
OK, my limited testing seemed to indicate that all is now well (Word 2010
on Windows 7). If the issue occurs intermittently, I could have missed
it. :-(



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote
Interestingly, I'm not seeing that at all, even in Word 2010 (at least
not running on Windows XP--haven't tested in Windows 7).
Actually, worse still, I'm seeing it intermittently. I can get
blue to show up sometimes but never red. I thought perhaps
it was a distinction between theme colors and standard colors, but it's
not that simple.





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OK, reading Lisa's post again, I see that you have already noticed that...

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"Stefan Blom" wrote in message ...

Lisa, Suzanne:

Colors seem to behave if you delete the \h (hyperlink) switch from the TOC
field code.

-- 
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Microsoft Word MVP




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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...

Thanks, as always, for your attention to detail, Lisa. Seems like this is
something it might be worthwhile to bring up with the Word team, as it seems
to me that color should at least be handled consistently, though of course
it would be most desirable for color to be treated the same as other font
properties (italic, bold, etc.).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Lisa Wilke-Thissen" wrote in message
...
Hi Suzanne, hi Stefan,

colors coming from theme colors, and being applied directly to text, seem
to be considered in the TOC.
But just "Text"-colors (Text 1, Text 2), not Background, Accent 1...) are
considered. However, the color in the TOC is not the same as used in the
main text:
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \x }

Removing \h in the TOC, and additionally (or instead of) using the switch
\u, will reflect colors of main text in the TOC:

{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \x }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \u }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \u}

--
Regards from Germany
Lisa [MS MVP Word]


"Stefan Blom" wrote
OK, my limited testing seemed to indicate that all is now well (Word 2010
on Windows 7). If the issue occurs intermittently, I could have missed
it. :-(



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote
Interestingly, I'm not seeing that at all, even in Word 2010 (at least
not running on Windows XP--haven't tested in Windows 7).
Actually, worse still, I'm seeing it intermittently. I can get
blue to show up sometimes but never red. I thought perhaps
it was a distinction between theme colors and standard colors, but it's
not that simple.




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Lisa,

This is off-topic, but I just have to ask if you are using some sort of
add-in to add "" for quoted text in WLM?

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"Lisa Wilke-Thissen" wrote in message
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Hi Suzanne, hi Stefan,

colors coming from theme colors, and being applied directly to text,
seem to be considered in the TOC.
But just "Text"-colors (Text 1, Text 2), not Background, Accent 1...)
are considered. However, the color in the TOC is not the same as used
in the main text:
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \x }

Removing \h in the TOC, and additionally (or instead of) using the
switch \u, will reflect colors of main text in the TOC:

{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \x }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \u }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \u}

--
Regards from Germany
Lisa [MS MVP Word]


"Stefan Blom" wrote
OK, my limited testing seemed to indicate that all is now well (Word 2010
on Windows 7). If the issue occurs intermittently, I could have missed it.
:-(



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote
Interestingly, I'm not seeing that at all, even in Word 2010 (at least
not running on Windows XP--haven't tested in Windows 7).
Actually, worse still, I'm seeing it intermittently. I can get
blue to show up sometimes but never red. I thought perhaps
it was a distinction between theme colors and standard colors, but it's
not that simple.


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Hi Stefan,

"Stefan Blom" wrote

This is off-topic, but I just have to ask if you are
using some sort of add-in to add "" for quoted text in WLM?


unfortunately not :-(. But I would prefer to have one...

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Hmm, we had the OEQuoteFix for Outlook Express (not that I ever used it).
Google suggests WLM QuoteFix (http://www.dusko-lolic.from.hr/wlmquote/) or
OE PowerTool(http://www.grzegorz.net/oe/oept.php?lang=en), but I haven't
dared to install either of them....

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Hi Stefan,

"Stefan Blom" wrote

This is off-topic, but I just have to ask if you are
using some sort of add-in to add "" for quoted text in WLM?


unfortunately not :-(. But I would prefer to have one...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lisa Wilke-Thissen View Post
Hi Suzanne, hi Stefan,

colors coming from theme colors, and being applied directly to text,
seem to be considered in the TOC.
But just "Text"-colors (Text 1, Text 2), not Background, Accent 1...)
are considered. However, the color in the TOC is not the same as used
in the main text:
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \x }

Removing \h in the TOC, and additionally (or instead of) using the
switch \u, will reflect colors of main text in the TOC:

{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \x }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \u }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \u}

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stefan Blom[_3_] View Post
Lisa, Suzanne:

Colors seem to behave if you delete the \h (hyperlink) switch from the TOC
field code.

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Thanks for that Lisa & Stefan. Removing the \h switch worked.
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Does WLM not have the same option OE has to add those characters? I haven't
used WLM much for NGs (I have it only on my laptop and use the laptop for
NGs only when traveling), but I thought I was posting pretty much the same
way as with OE.

--
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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
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Lisa,

This is off-topic, but I just have to ask if you are using some sort of
add-in to add "" for quoted text in WLM?

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Lisa Wilke-Thissen" wrote in message
...

Hi Suzanne, hi Stefan,

colors coming from theme colors, and being applied directly to text,
seem to be considered in the TOC.
But just "Text"-colors (Text 1, Text 2), not Background, Accent 1...)
are considered. However, the color in the TOC is not the same as used
in the main text:
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \x }

Removing \h in the TOC, and additionally (or instead of) using the
switch \u, will reflect colors of main text in the TOC:

{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \x }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \u }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \u}

--
Regards from Germany
Lisa [MS MVP Word]


"Stefan Blom" wrote
OK, my limited testing seemed to indicate that all is now well (Word 2010
on Windows 7). If the issue occurs intermittently, I could have missed
it. :-(



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote
Interestingly, I'm not seeing that at all, even in Word 2010 (at least
not running on Windows XP--haven't tested in Windows 7).
Actually, worse still, I'm seeing it intermittently. I can get
blue to show up sometimes but never red. I thought perhaps
it was a distinction between theme colors and standard colors, but it's
not that simple.



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Thanks, Stefan. In my own documents (for print), I do usually remove the \h
switch to make the TOC easier to edit, but when testing for other users I
always create the bog-standard TOC (not changing any of the Options in the
dialog) in order to be starting from a known default, so I hadn't tested
that way.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
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Lisa, Suzanne:

Colors seem to behave if you delete the \h (hyperlink) switch from the TOC
field code.

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Microsoft Word MVP




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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...

Thanks, as always, for your attention to detail, Lisa. Seems like this is
something it might be worthwhile to bring up with the Word team, as it
seems
to me that color should at least be handled consistently, though of course
it would be most desirable for color to be treated the same as other font
properties (italic, bold, etc.).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Lisa Wilke-Thissen" wrote in message
...
Hi Suzanne, hi Stefan,

colors coming from theme colors, and being applied directly to text, seem
to be considered in the TOC.
But just "Text"-colors (Text 1, Text 2), not Background, Accent 1...) are
considered. However, the color in the TOC is not the same as used in the
main text:
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \x }

Removing \h in the TOC, and additionally (or instead of) using the switch
\u, will reflect colors of main text in the TOC:

{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \x }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \u }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \u}

--
Regards from Germany
Lisa [MS MVP Word]


"Stefan Blom" wrote
OK, my limited testing seemed to indicate that all is now well (Word
2010
on Windows 7). If the issue occurs intermittently, I could have missed
it. :-(



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote
Interestingly, I'm not seeing that at all, even in Word 2010 (at least
not running on Windows XP--haven't tested in Windows 7).
Actually, worse still, I'm seeing it intermittently. I can get
blue to show up sometimes but never red. I thought perhaps
it was a distinction between theme colors and standard colors, but
it's
not that simple.







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No, WLM doesn't add anything at all, as you can tell by looking at this
reply. :-(

-- 
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Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...

Does WLM not have the same option OE has to add those characters? I haven't
used WLM much for NGs (I have it only on my laptop and use the laptop for
NGs only when traveling), but I thought I was posting pretty much the same
way as with OE.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Lisa,

This is off-topic, but I just have to ask if you are using some sort of
add-in to add "" for quoted text in WLM?

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Lisa Wilke-Thissen" wrote in message
...

Hi Suzanne, hi Stefan,

colors coming from theme colors, and being applied directly to text,
seem to be considered in the TOC.
But just "Text"-colors (Text 1, Text 2), not Background, Accent 1...)
are considered. However, the color in the TOC is not the same as used
in the main text:
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \x }

Removing \h in the TOC, and additionally (or instead of) using the
switch \u, will reflect colors of main text in the TOC:

{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \x }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \u }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \u}

--
Regards from Germany
Lisa [MS MVP Word]


"Stefan Blom" wrote
OK, my limited testing seemed to indicate that all is now well (Word 2010
on Windows 7). If the issue occurs intermittently, I could have missed
it. :-(



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote
Interestingly, I'm not seeing that at all, even in Word 2010 (at least
not running on Windows XP--haven't tested in Windows 7).
Actually, worse still, I'm seeing it intermittently. I can get
blue to show up sometimes but never red. I thought perhaps
it was a distinction between theme colors and standard colors, but it's
not that simple.




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Okay, you made me look. Fired up the W7 laptop and WLM and hit Reply to a
random post; sure enough, the text of the post I was replying to was quoted
with , as expected. The setting is in the same place in WLM as in OE: Tools
| Options | Send: News Sending Format: Plain Text Settings: Indent the
original text with [choice] when replying." Of course, that's available only
for plain text, not HTML.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
No, WLM doesn't add anything at all, as you can tell by looking at this
reply. :-(

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...

Does WLM not have the same option OE has to add those characters? I
haven't
used WLM much for NGs (I have it only on my laptop and use the laptop for
NGs only when traveling), but I thought I was posting pretty much the same
way as with OE.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Lisa,

This is off-topic, but I just have to ask if you are using some sort of
add-in to add "" for quoted text in WLM?

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Lisa Wilke-Thissen" wrote in message
...

Hi Suzanne, hi Stefan,

colors coming from theme colors, and being applied directly to text,
seem to be considered in the TOC.
But just "Text"-colors (Text 1, Text 2), not Background, Accent 1...)
are considered. However, the color in the TOC is not the same as used
in the main text:
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \x }

Removing \h in the TOC, and additionally (or instead of) using the
switch \u, will reflect colors of main text in the TOC:

{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \x }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \u }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \u}

--
Regards from Germany
Lisa [MS MVP Word]


"Stefan Blom" wrote
OK, my limited testing seemed to indicate that all is now well (Word
2010 on Windows 7). If the issue occurs intermittently, I could have
missed it. :-(



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote
Interestingly, I'm not seeing that at all, even in Word 2010 (at least
not running on Windows XP--haven't tested in Windows 7).
Actually, worse still, I'm seeing it intermittently. I can get
blue to show up sometimes but never red. I thought perhaps
it was a distinction between theme colors and standard colors, but
it's not that simple.




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Which version of WLM are you using? The behavior may have changed when WLM
2011 was released.

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...

Okay, you made me look. Fired up the W7 laptop and WLM and hit Reply to a
random post; sure enough, the text of the post I was replying to was quoted
with , as expected. The setting is in the same place in WLM as in OE: Tools
| Options | Send: News Sending Format: Plain Text Settings: Indent the
original text with [choice] when replying." Of course, that's available only
for plain text, not HTML.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
No, WLM doesn't add anything at all, as you can tell by looking at this
reply. :-(

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...

Does WLM not have the same option OE has to add those characters? I
haven't
used WLM much for NGs (I have it only on my laptop and use the laptop for
NGs only when traveling), but I thought I was posting pretty much the same
way as with OE.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Lisa,

This is off-topic, but I just have to ask if you are using some sort of
add-in to add "" for quoted text in WLM?

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Lisa Wilke-Thissen" wrote in message
...

Hi Suzanne, hi Stefan,

colors coming from theme colors, and being applied directly to text,
seem to be considered in the TOC.
But just "Text"-colors (Text 1, Text 2), not Background, Accent 1...)
are considered. However, the color in the TOC is not the same as used
in the main text:
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \x }

Removing \h in the TOC, and additionally (or instead of) using the
switch \u, will reflect colors of main text in the TOC:

{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \x }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \u }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \u}

--
Regards from Germany
Lisa [MS MVP Word]


"Stefan Blom" wrote
OK, my limited testing seemed to indicate that all is now well (Word
2010 on Windows 7). If the issue occurs intermittently, I could have
missed it. :-(



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote
Interestingly, I'm not seeing that at all, even in Word 2010 (at least
not running on Windows XP--haven't tested in Windows 7).
Actually, worse still, I'm seeing it intermittently. I can get
blue to show up sometimes but never red. I thought perhaps
it was a distinction between theme colors and standard colors, but
it's not that simple.



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There are versions? I have whatever came on the laptop I bought last
February.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Which version of WLM are you using? The behavior may have changed when WLM
2011 was released.

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...

Okay, you made me look. Fired up the W7 laptop and WLM and hit Reply to a
random post; sure enough, the text of the post I was replying to was
quoted
with , as expected. The setting is in the same place in WLM as in OE:
Tools
| Options | Send: News Sending Format: Plain Text Settings: Indent the
original text with [choice] when replying." Of course, that's available
only
for plain text, not HTML.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
No, WLM doesn't add anything at all, as you can tell by looking at this
reply. :-(

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...

Does WLM not have the same option OE has to add those characters? I
haven't
used WLM much for NGs (I have it only on my laptop and use the laptop for
NGs only when traveling), but I thought I was posting pretty much the
same
way as with OE.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Lisa,

This is off-topic, but I just have to ask if you are using some sort of
add-in to add "" for quoted text in WLM?

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Lisa Wilke-Thissen" wrote in message
...

Hi Suzanne, hi Stefan,

colors coming from theme colors, and being applied directly to text,
seem to be considered in the TOC.
But just "Text"-colors (Text 1, Text 2), not Background, Accent 1...)
are considered. However, the color in the TOC is not the same as used
in the main text:
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \x }

Removing \h in the TOC, and additionally (or instead of) using the
switch \u, will reflect colors of main text in the TOC:

{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \x }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \u }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \u}

--
Regards from Germany
Lisa [MS MVP Word]


"Stefan Blom" wrote
OK, my limited testing seemed to indicate that all is now well (Word
2010 on Windows 7). If the issue occurs intermittently, I could have
missed it. :-(


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote
Interestingly, I'm not seeing that at all, even in Word 2010 (at least
not running on Windows XP--haven't tested in Windows 7).
Actually, worse still, I'm seeing it intermittently. I can get
blue to show up sometimes but never red. I thought perhaps
it was a distinction between theme colors and standard colors, but
it's not that simple.




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Yes, WLM 2011 is release 15 (recently upgraded by Windows update to
15.4.3555.0308) and it makes use of the ribbon...

Maybe I'll have to downgrade to the last version that also worked in Windows
XP. :-(

-- 
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Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...

There are versions? I have whatever came on the laptop I bought last
February.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Which version of WLM are you using? The behavior may have changed when WLM
2011 was released.

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...

Okay, you made me look. Fired up the W7 laptop and WLM and hit Reply to a
random post; sure enough, the text of the post I was replying to was
quoted
with , as expected. The setting is in the same place in WLM as in OE:
Tools
| Options | Send: News Sending Format: Plain Text Settings: Indent the
original text with [choice] when replying." Of course, that's available
only
for plain text, not HTML.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
No, WLM doesn't add anything at all, as you can tell by looking at this
reply. :-(

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...

Does WLM not have the same option OE has to add those characters? I
haven't
used WLM much for NGs (I have it only on my laptop and use the laptop for
NGs only when traveling), but I thought I was posting pretty much the
same
way as with OE.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Lisa,

This is off-topic, but I just have to ask if you are using some sort of
add-in to add "" for quoted text in WLM?

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Lisa Wilke-Thissen" wrote in message
...

Hi Suzanne, hi Stefan,

colors coming from theme colors, and being applied directly to text,
seem to be considered in the TOC.
But just "Text"-colors (Text 1, Text 2), not Background, Accent 1...)
are considered. However, the color in the TOC is not the same as used
in the main text:
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \x }

Removing \h in the TOC, and additionally (or instead of) using the
switch \u, will reflect colors of main text in the TOC:

{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \x }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \u }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \u}

--
Regards from Germany
Lisa [MS MVP Word]


"Stefan Blom" wrote
OK, my limited testing seemed to indicate that all is now well (Word
2010 on Windows 7). If the issue occurs intermittently, I could have
missed it. :-(


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote
Interestingly, I'm not seeing that at all, even in Word 2010 (at least
not running on Windows XP--haven't tested in Windows 7).
Actually, worse still, I'm seeing it intermittently. I can get
blue to show up sometimes but never red. I thought perhaps
it was a distinction between theme colors and standard colors, but
it's not that simple.



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Since posting my previous message I actually *did* downgrade to WLM 14,
which supports quoting with ""; that version is also a bit more stable I
think...

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"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Yes, WLM 2011 is release 15 (recently upgraded by Windows update to
15.4.3555.0308) and it makes use of the ribbon...

Maybe I'll have to downgrade to the last version that also worked in
Windows XP. :-(

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...

There are versions? I have whatever came on the laptop I bought last
February.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Which version of WLM are you using? The behavior may have changed when
WLM 2011 was released.

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...

Okay, you made me look. Fired up the W7 laptop and WLM and hit Reply to a
random post; sure enough, the text of the post I was replying to was
quoted
with , as expected. The setting is in the same place in WLM as in OE:
Tools
| Options | Send: News Sending Format: Plain Text Settings: Indent the
original text with [choice] when replying." Of course, that's available
only
for plain text, not HTML.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
No, WLM doesn't add anything at all, as you can tell by looking at this
reply. :-(

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...

Does WLM not have the same option OE has to add those characters? I
haven't
used WLM much for NGs (I have it only on my laptop and use the laptop
for
NGs only when traveling), but I thought I was posting pretty much the
same
way as with OE.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Lisa,

This is off-topic, but I just have to ask if you are using some sort of
add-in to add "" for quoted text in WLM?

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Lisa Wilke-Thissen" wrote in message
...

Hi Suzanne, hi Stefan,

colors coming from theme colors, and being applied directly to text,
seem to be considered in the TOC.
But just "Text"-colors (Text 1, Text 2), not Background, Accent 1...)
are considered. However, the color in the TOC is not the same as used
in the main text:
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \x }

Removing \h in the TOC, and additionally (or instead of) using the
switch \u, will reflect colors of main text in the TOC:

{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \x }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \h \z \t "Title;2" \u }
{ TOC \o "1-1" \z \t "Title;2" \u}

--
Regards from Germany
Lisa [MS MVP Word]


"Stefan Blom" wrote
OK, my limited testing seemed to indicate that all is now well (Word
2010 on Windows 7). If the issue occurs intermittently, I could have
missed it. :-(


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote
Interestingly, I'm not seeing that at all, even in Word 2010 (at
least not running on Windows XP--haven't tested in Windows 7).
Actually, worse still, I'm seeing it intermittently. I can get
blue to show up sometimes but never red. I thought perhaps
it was a distinction between theme colors and standard colors, but
it's not that simple.



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