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Problem with inserting caption Word 2007
I right-click on the image, choose "insert caption" and the dialog box
appears. So far so good. I then create a New Label and type in the word "Kingsley" (without the quotes). I click OK, and the caption inserted under the image says "Kingsley 1"! I DON'T WANT THE FIGURE 1 in it. There seems to be NO way to delete that 1. Why oh WHY does MS make Word TOTALLY UNINTUITIVE? WHY does it insert a 1 when I HAVEN'T TOLD IT TO? And much more importantly, how do I get rid of it? |
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Problem with inserting caption Word 2007
"Gordon" wrote in message
... I right-click on the image, choose "insert caption" and the dialog box appears. So far so good. I then create a New Label and type in the word "Kingsley" (without the quotes). I click OK, and the caption inserted under the image says "Kingsley 1"! I DON'T WANT THE FIGURE 1 in it. There seems to be NO way to delete that 1. Why oh WHY does MS make Word TOTALLY UNINTUITIVE? WHY does it insert a 1 when I HAVEN'T TOLD IT TO? And much more importantly, how do I get rid of it? It appears, from Word help, that the label is user-created - the number, WORD INSERTS AUTOMATICALLY WHETHER THE USER WANTS IT OR NOT! I find that STAGGERINGLY arrogant and wonder whether the Word "developers" actually USE it in real life..... |
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Problem with inserting caption Word 2007
The purpose of the Caption dialog box is to create *numbered* captions. If
you don't want that, just add the caption manually, by typing the text. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Gordon" wrote in message ... "Gordon" wrote in message ... I right-click on the image, choose "insert caption" and the dialog box appears. So far so good. I then create a New Label and type in the word "Kingsley" (without the quotes). I click OK, and the caption inserted under the image says "Kingsley 1"! I DON'T WANT THE FIGURE 1 in it. There seems to be NO way to delete that 1. Why oh WHY does MS make Word TOTALLY UNINTUITIVE? WHY does it insert a 1 when I HAVEN'T TOLD IT TO? And much more importantly, how do I get rid of it? It appears, from Word help, that the label is user-created - the number, WORD INSERTS AUTOMATICALLY WHETHER THE USER WANTS IT OR NOT! I find that STAGGERINGLY arrogant and wonder whether the Word "developers" actually USE it in real life..... |
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"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
... The purpose of the Caption dialog box is to create *numbered* captions. Which is another example of MS hijacking the accepted meaning of a word! The definition EVERYONE ELSE uses is a "title" for a picture - a "numbered" caption should be an OPTION, but NOT automatic and non-removable. How many people waste time (I've wasted an hour or so this morning myself) trying to do something that MS defines in an MS way and not what everyone else defines it as? I repeat, arrogance in an enormous way. If you don't want that, just add the caption manually, by typing the text. I'd thought of that, presumably you mean in a text box. However, if I then move the picture, the text box doesn't move with it, unlike the caption. |
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Problem with inserting caption Word 2007
"Gordon" wrote in message ...
"Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... The purpose of the Caption dialog box is to create *numbered* captions. Which is another example of MS hijacking the accepted meaning of a word! The definition EVERYONE ELSE uses is a "title" for a picture - a "numbered" caption should be an OPTION, but NOT automatic and non-removable. How many people waste time (I've wasted an hour or so this morning myself) trying to do something that MS defines in an MS way and not what everyone else defines it as? I repeat, arrogance in an enormous way. Well, English is not my native language, so I really cannot comment on this. However, note that the people posting messages here do not work for Microsoft. If you don't want that, just add the caption manually, by typing the text. I'd thought of that, presumably you mean in a text box. However, if I then move the picture, the text box doesn't move with it, unlike the caption. Place the picture "In line with text," add the caption in a separate paragraph, and then wrap a frame around both of them; this keeps them together. You'll find the Insert Frame command on the Developer tab: In the Controls group, click the Legacy Tools button, and then click Insert Frame (under "Legacy Forms"). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP |
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Problem with inserting caption Word 2007
"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
... "Gordon" wrote in message ... "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... The purpose of the Caption dialog box is to create *numbered* captions. Which is another example of MS hijacking the accepted meaning of a word! The definition EVERYONE ELSE uses is a "title" for a picture - a "numbered" caption should be an OPTION, but NOT automatic and non-removable. How many people waste time (I've wasted an hour or so this morning myself) trying to do something that MS defines in an MS way and not what everyone else defines it as? I repeat, arrogance in an enormous way. Well, English is not my native language, so I really cannot comment on this. However, note that the people posting messages here do not work for Microsoft. interestingly, Open office has the same set up, with one MAJOR difference - in the options for numbering, under Number format, there is an option for NONE! How easy is that? |
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Problem with inserting caption Word 2007
Gordon wrote:
"Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... "Gordon" wrote in message ... "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... The purpose of the Caption dialog box is to create *numbered* captions. Which is another example of MS hijacking the accepted meaning of a word! The definition EVERYONE ELSE uses is a "title" for a picture - a "numbered" caption should be an OPTION, but NOT automatic and non-removable. How many people waste time (I've wasted an hour or so this morning myself) trying to do something that MS defines in an MS way and not what everyone else defines it as? I repeat, arrogance in an enormous way. Well, English is not my native language, so I really cannot comment on this. However, note that the people posting messages here do not work for Microsoft. interestingly, Open office has the same set up, with one MAJOR difference - in the options for numbering, under Number format, there is an option for NONE! How easy is that? If you prefer Open Office - use that! or Insert the Caption then remove the number field. It's not rocket science -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org |
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Problem with inserting caption Word 2007
"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
... Insert the Caption then remove the number field. It's not rocket science And would you care to explain exactly how to do that? I've spent several hours this morning just trying to do that. I can find NO explanation in Office help either local or on-line OR in Google on how to do that. |
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Problem with inserting caption Word 2007
A caption is just a text (your caption text) with a seq field added (the
number). Once inserted it can be edited in the document just like any other text. Select the number (the seq field) and delete it. Or insert all your captions with numbers and run the following macro to remove all the numbers Sub RemoveCaptionSeqNumbers() ActiveWindow.View.ShowFieldCodes = True With Selection.Find .ClearFormatting .Replacement.ClearFormatting .Text = "^d SEQ" .Style = "Caption" .Replacement.Text = "" .Forward = True .Wrap = wdFindContinue .Format = False .MatchCase = False .MatchWholeWord = False .MatchWildcards = False .MatchSoundsLike = False .MatchAllWordForms = False .Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll End With ActiveWindow.View.ShowFieldCodes = False End Sub http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Gordon wrote: "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... Insert the Caption then remove the number field. It's not rocket science And would you care to explain exactly how to do that? I've spent several hours this morning just trying to do that. I can find NO explanation in Office help either local or on-line OR in Google on how to do that. |
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"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
... A caption is just a text (your caption text) with a seq field added (the number). Once inserted it can be edited in the document just like any other text. Select the number (the seq field) and delete it. Thank you. For some unknown reason, this morning, I couldn't delete it. Now I can. However I've decided to forget Captions, as whenever I add one ( I have 5 pictures on the page with a lot of gap between each), it moves the pictures about in such a way that I can't seem to drag them back again to where they were. Text boxes don't do that. I still don't understand why MS should ASSUME that users want numbers in their captions automatically in the first place... |
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Problem with inserting caption Word 2007
Because the caption feature is intended to make it easy to apply sequential
numbered captions for figures and tables. The "label" is "Figure 1" or "Table 1" or a custom label such as "Exhibit 1." What you type after the label is the caption itself. If you don't need the captions labeled and numbered then you can still apply the Caption paragraph style, which will allow the captions to be picked up by a Table of Figures or List of Illustrations or whatever. Note, however, that the word "caption" has a number of meanings, differing in various contexts; the one you may be most familiar with is newspaper photos, but they are actually called "cutlines" in the trade (because the halftone photos, when they were actually sort of engravings mounted on wooden blocks inserted in blocks of hot type, were "cuts"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Gordon" wrote in message ... "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... A caption is just a text (your caption text) with a seq field added (the number). Once inserted it can be edited in the document just like any other text. Select the number (the seq field) and delete it. Thank you. For some unknown reason, this morning, I couldn't delete it. Now I can. However I've decided to forget Captions, as whenever I add one ( I have 5 pictures on the page with a lot of gap between each), it moves the pictures about in such a way that I can't seem to drag them back again to where they were. Text boxes don't do that. I still don't understand why MS should ASSUME that users want numbers in their captions automatically in the first place... |
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
... Because the caption feature is intended to make it easy to apply sequential numbered captions for figures and tables. The "label" is "Figure 1" or "Table 1" or a custom label such as "Exhibit 1." That's absolutely fine - BUT, that function should be something the user turns on IF they want it - it should NOT be automatic and by default. Or, under Number formatting there should be an option for none. I wasted at least an hour and a half of fruitless time yesterday trying to find how to turn it off. There is NOTHING in Office online Help about the fact that you can in fact just delete the field after having created the caption. |
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Problem with inserting caption Word 2007
You have wasted more of your (and our) time whingeing about a function that
does what it is intended to do - rather than what you want it to do. This is not how it works, nor ever has in Word - get over it! Gordon wrote: "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Because the caption feature is intended to make it easy to apply sequential numbered captions for figures and tables. The "label" is "Figure 1" or "Table 1" or a custom label such as "Exhibit 1." That's absolutely fine - BUT, that function should be something the user turns on IF they want it - it should NOT be automatic and by default. Or, under Number formatting there should be an option for none. I wasted at least an hour and a half of fruitless time yesterday trying to find how to turn it off. There is NOTHING in Office online Help about the fact that you can in fact just delete the field after having created the caption. |
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Graham Mayor wrote:
You have wasted more of your (and our) time whingeing about a function that does what it is intended to do - rather than what you want it to do. This is not how it works, nor ever has in Word - get over it! I repeat - arrogance of MS. It is NOT how "ORDINARY" users define a caption. And WHY is there nothing in help to say that the field CAN be deleted? |
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Problem with inserting caption Word 2007
Note that if you remove the SEQ fields, you won't be able to build a table
of figures based on the chosen caption label (because the TOC field actually looks for the SEQ fields), but you can work around this by building the TOF on a particular style instead. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Because the caption feature is intended to make it easy to apply sequential numbered captions for figures and tables. The "label" is "Figure 1" or "Table 1" or a custom label such as "Exhibit 1." What you type after the label is the caption itself. If you don't need the captions labeled and numbered then you can still apply the Caption paragraph style, which will allow the captions to be picked up by a Table of Figures or List of Illustrations or whatever. Note, however, that the word "caption" has a number of meanings, differing in various contexts; the one you may be most familiar with is newspaper photos, but they are actually called "cutlines" in the trade (because the halftone photos, when they were actually sort of engravings mounted on wooden blocks inserted in blocks of hot type, were "cuts"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Gordon" wrote in message ... "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... A caption is just a text (your caption text) with a seq field added (the number). Once inserted it can be edited in the document just like any other text. Select the number (the seq field) and delete it. Thank you. For some unknown reason, this morning, I couldn't delete it. Now I can. However I've decided to forget Captions, as whenever I add one ( I have 5 pictures on the page with a lot of gap between each), it moves the pictures about in such a way that I can't seem to drag them back again to where they were. Text boxes don't do that. I still don't understand why MS should ASSUME that users want numbers in their captions automatically in the first place... |
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Gordon wrote:
Graham Mayor wrote: You have wasted more of your (and our) time whingeing about a function that does what it is intended to do - rather than what you want it to do. This is not how it works, nor ever has in Word - get over it! I repeat - arrogance of MS. It is NOT how "ORDINARY" users define a caption. And WHY is there nothing in help to say that the field CAN be deleted? *Any* text or field inserted in a document can be deleted! |
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Problem with inserting caption Word 2007
The Caption feature is intended for technical and academic documents, the
writers of which *do* understand "caption" in this sense. There is no need whatsoever to use the Caption feature to create what is merely an ordinary text paragraph. I'm surprised that you even wanted to use it that way. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Gordon" wrote in message ... "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Because the caption feature is intended to make it easy to apply sequential numbered captions for figures and tables. The "label" is "Figure 1" or "Table 1" or a custom label such as "Exhibit 1." That's absolutely fine - BUT, that function should be something the user turns on IF they want it - it should NOT be automatic and by default. Or, under Number formatting there should be an option for none. I wasted at least an hour and a half of fruitless time yesterday trying to find how to turn it off. There is NOTHING in Office online Help about the fact that you can in fact just delete the field after having created the caption. |
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