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Styles in Word 2003 - numbered lists shift margins without permiss
Hello - I've set up a paragraph style for numbered lists I'm using in a long
document in Word 2003. List numbering needs to restart with each new section. It works great for the first section (for example), but when I apply the style to the first item in my second section, it automatically begins the numbering where it left off in the first section. No problem, right? Just tell it to "restart numbering," rather than "continue previous list." But when I do this, the bloody thing shifts its margin in by a quarter inch -- altering my saved style, and every single instance where I've used it in the document. The whole *point* of styles is to keep things consistent, so you can imagine how annoying this is. Can you help me stop this from happening? Thanks - - |
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Styles in Word 2003 - numbered lists shift margins without permiss
I should add that the style changes Word inflicts on my new lists (where I
want the numbering to restart from the beginning) varies for no explicable reason - it might not shift my margins, but add underlining. And in some cases, I can't make the numbering start over at all, no matter what I do. "Benjamin Chambers" wrote: Hello - I've set up a paragraph style for numbered lists I'm using in a long document in Word 2003. List numbering needs to restart with each new section. It works great for the first section (for example), but when I apply the style to the first item in my second section, it automatically begins the numbering where it left off in the first section. No problem, right? Just tell it to "restart numbering," rather than "continue previous list." But when I do this, the bloody thing shifts its margin in by a quarter inch -- altering my saved style, and every single instance where I've used it in the document. The whole *point* of styles is to keep things consistent, so you can imagine how annoying this is. Can you help me stop this from happening? Thanks - - |
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Styles in Word 2003 - numbered lists shift margins without permiss
The only real solution to this is to use an outline-numbered list with a
dummy style to restart numbering. See these articles: Restarting list numbering using a higher level style http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tfromstyle.htm How to restart style-based numbering http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/...artMethods.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... Hello - I've set up a paragraph style for numbered lists I'm using in a long document in Word 2003. List numbering needs to restart with each new section. It works great for the first section (for example), but when I apply the style to the first item in my second section, it automatically begins the numbering where it left off in the first section. No problem, right? Just tell it to "restart numbering," rather than "continue previous list." But when I do this, the bloody thing shifts its margin in by a quarter inch -- altering my saved style, and every single instance where I've used it in the document. The whole *point* of styles is to keep things consistent, so you can imagine how annoying this is. Can you help me stop this from happening? Thanks - - |
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Styles in Word 2003 - numbered lists shift margins without per
My God. VBA? Frame styles? Dummy styles?
I do believe I'm going back to the typewriter. But thanks for the quick reply. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The only real solution to this is to use an outline-numbered list with a dummy style to restart numbering. See these articles: Restarting list numbering using a higher level style http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tfromstyle.htm How to restart style-based numbering http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/...artMethods.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... Hello - I've set up a paragraph style for numbered lists I'm using in a long document in Word 2003. List numbering needs to restart with each new section. It works great for the first section (for example), but when I apply the style to the first item in my second section, it automatically begins the numbering where it left off in the first section. No problem, right? Just tell it to "restart numbering," rather than "continue previous list." But when I do this, the bloody thing shifts its margin in by a quarter inch -- altering my saved style, and every single instance where I've used it in the document. The whole *point* of styles is to keep things consistent, so you can imagine how annoying this is. Can you help me stop this from happening? Thanks - - |
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Styles in Word 2003 - numbered lists shift margins without per
You need only set up an outline-numbered list as explained at
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html, setting the top level to have no numbering. Level 1 should be a style that reliably intervenes between your numbered lists. Level 2 is your numbered style. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... My God. VBA? Frame styles? Dummy styles? I do believe I'm going back to the typewriter. But thanks for the quick reply. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The only real solution to this is to use an outline-numbered list with a dummy style to restart numbering. See these articles: Restarting list numbering using a higher level style http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tfromstyle.htm How to restart style-based numbering http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/...artMethods.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... Hello - I've set up a paragraph style for numbered lists I'm using in a long document in Word 2003. List numbering needs to restart with each new section. It works great for the first section (for example), but when I apply the style to the first item in my second section, it automatically begins the numbering where it left off in the first section. No problem, right? Just tell it to "restart numbering," rather than "continue previous list." But when I do this, the bloody thing shifts its margin in by a quarter inch -- altering my saved style, and every single instance where I've used it in the document. The whole *point* of styles is to keep things consistent, so you can imagine how annoying this is. Can you help me stop this from happening? Thanks - - |
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Styles in Word 2003 - numbered lists shift margins without per
Yes, I saw that, thanks. My problem is that I don't have a style that
reliably intervenes between lists. I think I saw a solution somewhere that seemed likely to work, but I have to completely rebuild the document, and from my uninitiated Dumb User standpoint, that's crazy. But again, thank you for your help. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You need only set up an outline-numbered list as explained at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html, setting the top level to have no numbering. Level 1 should be a style that reliably intervenes between your numbered lists. Level 2 is your numbered style. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... My God. VBA? Frame styles? Dummy styles? I do believe I'm going back to the typewriter. But thanks for the quick reply. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The only real solution to this is to use an outline-numbered list with a dummy style to restart numbering. See these articles: Restarting list numbering using a higher level style http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tfromstyle.htm How to restart style-based numbering http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/...artMethods.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... Hello - I've set up a paragraph style for numbered lists I'm using in a long document in Word 2003. List numbering needs to restart with each new section. It works great for the first section (for example), but when I apply the style to the first item in my second section, it automatically begins the numbering where it left off in the first section. No problem, right? Just tell it to "restart numbering," rather than "continue previous list." But when I do this, the bloody thing shifts its margin in by a quarter inch -- altering my saved style, and every single instance where I've used it in the document. The whole *point* of styles is to keep things consistent, so you can imagine how annoying this is. Can you help me stop this from happening? Thanks - - |
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Styles in Word 2003 - numbered lists shift margins without per
FWIW, if I use style-based numbering, I don't have a problem with Word
changing the margins when I restart numbering. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message news  Yes, I saw that, thanks. My problem is that I don't have a style that reliably intervenes between lists. I think I saw a solution somewhere that seemed likely to work, but I have to completely rebuild the document, and from my uninitiated Dumb User standpoint, that's crazy. But again, thank you for your help. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You need only set up an outline-numbered list as explained at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html, setting the top level to have no numbering. Level 1 should be a style that reliably intervenes between your numbered lists. Level 2 is your numbered style. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... My God. VBA? Frame styles? Dummy styles? I do believe I'm going back to the typewriter. But thanks for the quick reply. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The only real solution to this is to use an outline-numbered list with a dummy style to restart numbering. See these articles: Restarting list numbering using a higher level style http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tfromstyle.htm How to restart style-based numbering http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/...artMethods.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... Hello - I've set up a paragraph style for numbered lists I'm using in a long document in Word 2003. List numbering needs to restart with each new section. It works great for the first section (for example), but when I apply the style to the first item in my second section, it automatically begins the numbering where it left off in the first section. No problem, right? Just tell it to "restart numbering," rather than "continue previous list." But when I do this, the bloody thing shifts its margin in by a quarter inch -- altering my saved style, and every single instance where I've used it in the document. The whole *point* of styles is to keep things consistent, so you can imagine how annoying this is. Can you help me stop this from happening? Thanks - - |
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Styles in Word 2003 - numbered lists shift margins without per
And I should clarify that by that I mean that if I link a numbering format
to a specific style in an outline-numbered list (even if it's Level 1) and use "Restart Numbering" manually, there's no change in margins; I believe the same is true even with simple numbering applied to a style (using Numbered rather than Outline Numbered). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... FWIW, if I use style-based numbering, I don't have a problem with Word changing the margins when I restart numbering. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message news Yes, I saw that, thanks. My problem is that I don't have a style that reliably intervenes between lists. I think I saw a solution somewhere that seemed likely to work, but I have to completely rebuild the document, and from my uninitiated Dumb User standpoint, that's crazy. But again, thank you for your help. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You need only set up an outline-numbered list as explained at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html, setting the top level to have no numbering. Level 1 should be a style that reliably intervenes between your numbered lists. Level 2 is your numbered style. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... My God. VBA? Frame styles? Dummy styles? I do believe I'm going back to the typewriter. But thanks for the quick reply. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The only real solution to this is to use an outline-numbered list with a dummy style to restart numbering. See these articles: Restarting list numbering using a higher level style http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tfromstyle.htm How to restart style-based numbering http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/...artMethods.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... Hello - I've set up a paragraph style for numbered lists I'm using in a long document in Word 2003. List numbering needs to restart with each new section. It works great for the first section (for example), but when I apply the style to the first item in my second section, it automatically begins the numbering where it left off in the first section. No problem, right? Just tell it to "restart numbering," rather than "continue previous list." But when I do this, the bloody thing shifts its margin in by a quarter inch -- altering my saved style, and every single instance where I've used it in the document. The whole *point* of styles is to keep things consistent, so you can imagine how annoying this is. Can you help me stop this from happening? Thanks - - |
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Styles in Word 2003 - numbered lists shift margins without per
An alternative is to use a LISTNUM field to restart the numbering. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tbylistnum.htm. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Benjamin Chambers" wrote: Yes, I saw that, thanks. My problem is that I don't have a style that reliably intervenes between lists. I think I saw a solution somewhere that seemed likely to work, but I have to completely rebuild the document, and from my uninitiated Dumb User standpoint, that's crazy. But again, thank you for your help. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You need only set up an outline-numbered list as explained at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html, setting the top level to have no numbering. Level 1 should be a style that reliably intervenes between your numbered lists. Level 2 is your numbered style. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... My God. VBA? Frame styles? Dummy styles? I do believe I'm going back to the typewriter. But thanks for the quick reply. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The only real solution to this is to use an outline-numbered list with a dummy style to restart numbering. See these articles: Restarting list numbering using a higher level style http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tfromstyle.htm How to restart style-based numbering http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/...artMethods.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... Hello - I've set up a paragraph style for numbered lists I'm using in a long document in Word 2003. List numbering needs to restart with each new section. It works great for the first section (for example), but when I apply the style to the first item in my second section, it automatically begins the numbering where it left off in the first section. No problem, right? Just tell it to "restart numbering," rather than "continue previous list." But when I do this, the bloody thing shifts its margin in by a quarter inch -- altering my saved style, and every single instance where I've used it in the document. The whole *point* of styles is to keep things consistent, so you can imagine how annoying this is. Can you help me stop this from happening? Thanks - - |
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Styles in Word 2003 - numbered lists shift margins without per
Suzanne - I finally got time to work through Shauna Kelly's instructions for
linking styles to outline numbering -- just as you suggest here -- and it seems to be working. Just wanted to say "thanks" for your help. I was just stunned that the solution was so complicated. -Benjamin "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: And I should clarify that by that I mean that if I link a numbering format to a specific style in an outline-numbered list (even if it's Level 1) and use "Restart Numbering" manually, there's no change in margins; I believe the same is true even with simple numbering applied to a style (using Numbered rather than Outline Numbered). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... FWIW, if I use style-based numbering, I don't have a problem with Word changing the margins when I restart numbering. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message news Yes, I saw that, thanks. My problem is that I don't have a style that reliably intervenes between lists. I think I saw a solution somewhere that seemed likely to work, but I have to completely rebuild the document, and from my uninitiated Dumb User standpoint, that's crazy. But again, thank you for your help. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You need only set up an outline-numbered list as explained at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html, setting the top level to have no numbering. Level 1 should be a style that reliably intervenes between your numbered lists. Level 2 is your numbered style. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... My God. VBA? Frame styles? Dummy styles? I do believe I'm going back to the typewriter. But thanks for the quick reply. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The only real solution to this is to use an outline-numbered list with a dummy style to restart numbering. See these articles: Restarting list numbering using a higher level style http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tfromstyle.htm How to restart style-based numbering http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/...artMethods.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... Hello - I've set up a paragraph style for numbered lists I'm using in a long document in Word 2003. List numbering needs to restart with each new section. It works great for the first section (for example), but when I apply the style to the first item in my second section, it automatically begins the numbering where it left off in the first section. No problem, right? Just tell it to "restart numbering," rather than "continue previous list." But when I do this, the bloody thing shifts its margin in by a quarter inch -- altering my saved style, and every single instance where I've used it in the document. The whole *point* of styles is to keep things consistent, so you can imagine how annoying this is. Can you help me stop this from happening? Thanks - - |
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Glad you got it working. I try to avoid anything but style-based numbering,
and I find I have very few problems. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... Suzanne - I finally got time to work through Shauna Kelly's instructions for linking styles to outline numbering -- just as you suggest here -- and it seems to be working. Just wanted to say "thanks" for your help. I was just stunned that the solution was so complicated. -Benjamin "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: And I should clarify that by that I mean that if I link a numbering format to a specific style in an outline-numbered list (even if it's Level 1) and use "Restart Numbering" manually, there's no change in margins; I believe the same is true even with simple numbering applied to a style (using Numbered rather than Outline Numbered). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... FWIW, if I use style-based numbering, I don't have a problem with Word changing the margins when I restart numbering. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message news
Yes, I saw that, thanks. My problem is that I don't have a style thatreliably intervenes between lists. I think I saw a solution somewhere that seemed likely to work, but I have to completely rebuild the document, and from my uninitiated Dumb User standpoint, that's crazy. But again, thank you for your help. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You need only set up an outline-numbered list as explained at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html, setting the top level to have no numbering. Level 1 should be a style that reliably intervenes between your numbered lists. Level 2 is your numbered style. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... My God. VBA? Frame styles? Dummy styles? I do believe I'm going back to the typewriter. But thanks for the quick reply. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The only real solution to this is to use an outline-numbered list with a dummy style to restart numbering. See these articles: Restarting list numbering using a higher level style http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tfromstyle.htm How to restart style-based numbering http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/...artMethods.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... Hello - I've set up a paragraph style for numbered lists I'm using in a long document in Word 2003. List numbering needs to restart with each new section. It works great for the first section (for example), but when I apply the style to the first item in my second section, it automatically begins the numbering where it left off in the first section. No problem, right? Just tell it to "restart numbering," rather than "continue previous list." But when I do this, the bloody thing shifts its margin in by a quarter inch -- altering my saved style, and every single instance where I've used it in the document. The whole *point* of styles is to keep things consistent, so you can imagine how annoying this is. Can you help me stop this from happening? Thanks - - |
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Styles in Word 2003 - numbered lists shift margins without per
This same thing happens in Word 2007! I can't believe that articles have been
written about this topic. It is very funny.I note that in some of my docs this does NOT happen. In others it happens all the time so there must be some kind of corruption going on only in some cases. Now I'd better read those articles (sigh!) "Stefan Blom" wrote: An alternative is to use a LISTNUM field to restart the numbering. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tbylistnum.htm. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Benjamin Chambers" wrote: Yes, I saw that, thanks. My problem is that I don't have a style that reliably intervenes between lists. I think I saw a solution somewhere that seemed likely to work, but I have to completely rebuild the document, and from my uninitiated Dumb User standpoint, that's crazy. But again, thank you for your help. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You need only set up an outline-numbered list as explained at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html, setting the top level to have no numbering. Level 1 should be a style that reliably intervenes between your numbered lists. Level 2 is your numbered style. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... My God. VBA? Frame styles? Dummy styles? I do believe I'm going back to the typewriter. But thanks for the quick reply. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The only real solution to this is to use an outline-numbered list with a dummy style to restart numbering. See these articles: Restarting list numbering using a higher level style http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tfromstyle.htm How to restart style-based numbering http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/...artMethods.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... Hello - I've set up a paragraph style for numbered lists I'm using in a long document in Word 2003. List numbering needs to restart with each new section. It works great for the first section (for example), but when I apply the style to the first item in my second section, it automatically begins the numbering where it left off in the first section. No problem, right? Just tell it to "restart numbering," rather than "continue previous list." But when I do this, the bloody thing shifts its margin in by a quarter inch -- altering my saved style, and every single instance where I've used it in the document. The whole *point* of styles is to keep things consistent, so you can imagine how annoying this is. Can you help me stop this from happening? Thanks - - |
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What "does NOT happen"? If you are referring to restarting numbered lists
via the context menu, the problem with this approach is that there is no easy way to tell, in the user interface at least, if a particular list has been restarted or split into two lists. On the other hand, using LISTNUM fields to restart numbering is relatively straightforward, assuming that you are the only person editing the document. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Launcher1" wrote in message ... This same thing happens in Word 2007! I can't believe that articles have been written about this topic. It is very funny.I note that in some of my docs this does NOT happen. In others it happens all the time so there must be some kind of corruption going on only in some cases. Now I'd better read those articles (sigh!) "Stefan Blom" wrote: An alternative is to use a LISTNUM field to restart the numbering. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tbylistnum.htm. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Benjamin Chambers" wrote: Yes, I saw that, thanks. My problem is that I don't have a style that reliably intervenes between lists. I think I saw a solution somewhere that seemed likely to work, but I have to completely rebuild the document, and from my uninitiated Dumb User standpoint, that's crazy. But again, thank you for your help. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You need only set up an outline-numbered list as explained at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html, setting the top level to have no numbering. Level 1 should be a style that reliably intervenes between your numbered lists. Level 2 is your numbered style. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... My God. VBA? Frame styles? Dummy styles? I do believe I'm going back to the typewriter. But thanks for the quick reply. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The only real solution to this is to use an outline-numbered list with a dummy style to restart numbering. See these articles: Restarting list numbering using a higher level style http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tfromstyle.htm How to restart style-based numbering http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/...artMethods.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Benjamin Chambers" wrote in message ... Hello - I've set up a paragraph style for numbered lists I'm using in a long document in Word 2003. List numbering needs to restart with each new section. It works great for the first section (for example), but when I apply the style to the first item in my second section, it automatically begins the numbering where it left off in the first section. No problem, right? Just tell it to "restart numbering," rather than "continue previous list." But when I do this, the bloody thing shifts its margin in by a quarter inch -- altering my saved style, and every single instance where I've used it in the document. The whole *point* of styles is to keep things consistent, so you can imagine how annoying this is. Can you help me stop this from happening? Thanks - - |
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