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WebColin
 
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Default Table Format Style vs. Table Text Style

I have defined a Table format, including setting the text for "Whole Table"
to a specific font. But the text in the tables of that Style are still in
the same font as the Normal style. This seems to be true both for
preexisting tables and new tables I create with that table style.

Of course I can manually set the font in the table or define another text
style and apply that to the individual rows of text, but that's not supposed
to be necessary. Considering the number of tables and the size of the
document, I really don't want to have manually set the text in each table.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Colin

Word 2003, Windows XP all Office and OS SP's installed


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Stefan Blom
 
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Default Table Format Style vs. Table Text Style

Did you modify the font of the Normal style? If so, the settings will
transfer to table styles. See the message by Klaus Linke in the thread
at:
http://groups.google.se/group/micros...0e16d9c49bac81

If you need more information, try searching the newsgroup archives at
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"WebColin" wrote in message
...
I have defined a Table format, including setting the text for "Whole

Table"
to a specific font. But the text in the tables of that Style are

still in
the same font as the Normal style. This seems to be true both for
preexisting tables and new tables I create with that table style.

Of course I can manually set the font in the table or define another

text
style and apply that to the individual rows of text, but that's not

supposed
to be necessary. Considering the number of tables and the size of

the
document, I really don't want to have manually set the text in each

table.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Colin

Word 2003, Windows XP all Office and OS SP's installed








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WebColin
 
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Default Table Format Style vs. Table Text Style

Yes, I changed the core font from Times New Roman to our specified serif
font for this template. But the Table style font should override that,
shouldn't it? All other styles based on Normal do (e.g., Headings).

[In fact, while it's not technically important, I'd add that using the
Normal style for tables is generally bad formatting. A typical table should
be in a sans serifed font, whereas body text should be in a serifed font (if
you question this, look in any magazine with tables). The only possible
general purpose exception would be if you were using the table just to
establish placement for various items, and not really as a conventional
table.]

Is there something special about Table Styles? If so, what should I do? I
didn't see a solution or work around on the web page you listed. Is it to
use a Body Text style instead of Normal for the bulk of the text? If Normal
is unmodified, would the Table Style fonts work? Is there another way - I
don't want to have to go through my docs and change my Normal text to
another style.

Thanks much,
Colin


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Did you modify the font of the Normal style? If so, the settings will
transfer to table styles. See the message by Klaus Linke in the thread
at:
http://groups.google.se/group/micros...0e16d9c49bac81

If you need more information, try searching the newsgroup archives at
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"WebColin" wrote in message
...
I have defined a Table format, including setting the text for "Whole

Table"
to a specific font. But the text in the tables of that Style are

still in
the same font as the Normal style. This seems to be true both for
preexisting tables and new tables I create with that table style.

Of course I can manually set the font in the table or define another

text
style and apply that to the individual rows of text, but that's not

supposed
to be necessary. Considering the number of tables and the size of

the
document, I really don't want to have manually set the text in each

table.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Colin

Word 2003, Windows XP all Office and OS SP's installed










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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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Default Table Format Style vs. Table Text Style

Yes, there is something special about table styles. It's actually a bug and
will be corrected in Word 12. If you modify the font of Normal style, then
the table style reverts to the default Normal.dot Normal font (i.e., TNR
12).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"WebColin" wrote in message
...
Yes, I changed the core font from Times New Roman to our specified serif
font for this template. But the Table style font should override that,
shouldn't it? All other styles based on Normal do (e.g., Headings).

[In fact, while it's not technically important, I'd add that using the
Normal style for tables is generally bad formatting. A typical table

should
be in a sans serifed font, whereas body text should be in a serifed font

(if
you question this, look in any magazine with tables). The only possible
general purpose exception would be if you were using the table just to
establish placement for various items, and not really as a conventional
table.]

Is there something special about Table Styles? If so, what should I do? I
didn't see a solution or work around on the web page you listed. Is it to
use a Body Text style instead of Normal for the bulk of the text? If

Normal
is unmodified, would the Table Style fonts work? Is there another way - I
don't want to have to go through my docs and change my Normal text to
another style.

Thanks much,
Colin


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Did you modify the font of the Normal style? If so, the settings will
transfer to table styles. See the message by Klaus Linke in the thread
at:

http://groups.google.se/group/micros...0e16d9c49bac81

If you need more information, try searching the newsgroup archives at
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"WebColin" wrote in message
...
I have defined a Table format, including setting the text for "Whole

Table"
to a specific font. But the text in the tables of that Style are

still in
the same font as the Normal style. This seems to be true both for
preexisting tables and new tables I create with that table style.

Of course I can manually set the font in the table or define another

text
style and apply that to the individual rows of text, but that's not

supposed
to be necessary. Considering the number of tables and the size of

the
document, I really don't want to have manually set the text in each

table.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Colin

Word 2003, Windows XP all Office and OS SP's installed











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WebColin
 
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Default Table Format Style vs. Table Text Style

OK, hmm. That's an annoying bug (I guess they all are).

So, that leads to a few questions:

1. What features of the Table Style are overridden by changes to the Normal
Style? Is it just the font, or is there more? My Normal style specifies:
font, Right margin, and Space After. It also says (but I think these are
standard) Left, Line spacing: single, and Widow/Orphan control.

2. Is creating a new style (e.g. "Body Text") the best solution?

3. If I do create a new style (answer is Yes to #2), what should I define in
Normal versus in that other style? Just the font? Is there a "best
practices" on this? Something on one of those great MVP pages?

Thanks so much,
Colin


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Yes, there is something special about table styles. It's actually a bug
and
will be corrected in Word 12. If you modify the font of Normal style, then
the table style reverts to the default Normal.dot Normal font (i.e., TNR
12).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"WebColin" wrote in message
...
Yes, I changed the core font from Times New Roman to our specified serif
font for this template. But the Table style font should override that,
shouldn't it? All other styles based on Normal do (e.g., Headings).

[In fact, while it's not technically important, I'd add that using the
Normal style for tables is generally bad formatting. A typical table

should
be in a sans serifed font, whereas body text should be in a serifed font

(if
you question this, look in any magazine with tables). The only possible
general purpose exception would be if you were using the table just to
establish placement for various items, and not really as a conventional
table.]

Is there something special about Table Styles? If so, what should I do? I
didn't see a solution or work around on the web page you listed. Is it to
use a Body Text style instead of Normal for the bulk of the text? If

Normal
is unmodified, would the Table Style fonts work? Is there another way - I
don't want to have to go through my docs and change my Normal text to
another style.

Thanks much,
Colin


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Did you modify the font of the Normal style? If so, the settings will
transfer to table styles. See the message by Klaus Linke in the thread
at:

http://groups.google.se/group/micros...0e16d9c49bac81

If you need more information, try searching the newsgroup archives at
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"WebColin" wrote in message
...
I have defined a Table format, including setting the text for "Whole
Table"
to a specific font. But the text in the tables of that Style are
still in
the same font as the Normal style. This seems to be true both for
preexisting tables and new tables I create with that table style.

Of course I can manually set the font in the table or define another
text
style and apply that to the individual rows of text, but that's not
supposed
to be necessary. Considering the number of tables and the size of
the
document, I really don't want to have manually set the text in each
table.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Colin

Word 2003, Windows XP all Office and OS SP's installed















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Default Table Format Style vs. Table Text Style

Since I never use table styles, I'm a bit vague on all this, but perhaps
someone more knowledgeable can answer your question.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"WebColin" wrote in message
...
OK, hmm. That's an annoying bug (I guess they all are).

So, that leads to a few questions:

1. What features of the Table Style are overridden by changes to the

Normal
Style? Is it just the font, or is there more? My Normal style specifies:
font, Right margin, and Space After. It also says (but I think these are
standard) Left, Line spacing: single, and Widow/Orphan control.

2. Is creating a new style (e.g. "Body Text") the best solution?

3. If I do create a new style (answer is Yes to #2), what should I define

in
Normal versus in that other style? Just the font? Is there a "best
practices" on this? Something on one of those great MVP pages?

Thanks so much,
Colin


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Yes, there is something special about table styles. It's actually a bug
and
will be corrected in Word 12. If you modify the font of Normal style,

then
the table style reverts to the default Normal.dot Normal font (i.e., TNR
12).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"WebColin" wrote in message
...
Yes, I changed the core font from Times New Roman to our specified

serif
font for this template. But the Table style font should override that,
shouldn't it? All other styles based on Normal do (e.g., Headings).

[In fact, while it's not technically important, I'd add that using the
Normal style for tables is generally bad formatting. A typical table

should
be in a sans serifed font, whereas body text should be in a serifed

font
(if
you question this, look in any magazine with tables). The only possible
general purpose exception would be if you were using the table just to
establish placement for various items, and not really as a conventional
table.]

Is there something special about Table Styles? If so, what should I do?

I
didn't see a solution or work around on the web page you listed. Is it

to
use a Body Text style instead of Normal for the bulk of the text? If

Normal
is unmodified, would the Table Style fonts work? Is there another way -

I
don't want to have to go through my docs and change my Normal text to
another style.

Thanks much,
Colin


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Did you modify the font of the Normal style? If so, the settings will
transfer to table styles. See the message by Klaus Linke in the

thread
at:


http://groups.google.se/group/micros...0e16d9c49bac81

If you need more information, try searching the newsgroup archives at
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"WebColin" wrote in message
...
I have defined a Table format, including setting the text for "Whole
Table"
to a specific font. But the text in the tables of that Style are
still in
the same font as the Normal style. This seems to be true both for
preexisting tables and new tables I create with that table style.

Of course I can manually set the font in the table or define another
text
style and apply that to the individual rows of text, but that's not
supposed
to be necessary. Considering the number of tables and the size of
the
document, I really don't want to have manually set the text in each
table.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Colin

Word 2003, Windows XP all Office and OS SP's installed














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