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Paragraph Spacing
In the Paragraph dialog box, Indents and Spacing tab, under the Spacing
category - "Before" and "After", it's 0 pt, I press the Down button, what's that?, what's "Auto"? for what is it made for? for what can I use it? anybody has some idea? |
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Paragraph Spacing
Auto adds the "appropriate" spacing between paragraphs based on the current
point size to achieve effective double spacing between paragraphs. For example, if my current point size is 12, I *could* add before and after spacing of 12 points. This would double space between paragraphs -- but only when the point size is 12. If I later change the point size to 8, 10, 14 or 24, the before/after spacing of 12 will now seem too large or too small. If I set before/after to Auto, however, Word will automatically scale before/after spacing to match the current point size, thus achieving the correct effect automatically. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP http://www.herbtyson.com Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along. "LGFN" wrote in message ... In the Paragraph dialog box, Indents and Spacing tab, under the Spacing category - "Before" and "After", it's 0 pt, I press the Down button, what's that?, what's "Auto"? for what is it made for? for what can I use it? anybody has some idea? |
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Is that documented anywhere? If not, how did you figure it out? Also, I
suspect it may work well only at normal text point sizes. Change the font size to 72 and see what happens! Another explanation is that it works in conjunction with the "HTML auto paragraph spacing" option. See "WD2000: How to Use the HTML Paragraph Auto Spacing" at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=207893 -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... Auto adds the "appropriate" spacing between paragraphs based on the current point size to achieve effective double spacing between paragraphs. For example, if my current point size is 12, I *could* add before and after spacing of 12 points. This would double space between paragraphs -- but only when the point size is 12. If I later change the point size to 8, 10, 14 or 24, the before/after spacing of 12 will now seem too large or too small. If I set before/after to Auto, however, Word will automatically scale before/after spacing to match the current point size, thus achieving the correct effect automatically. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP http://www.herbtyson.com Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along. "LGFN" wrote in message ... In the Paragraph dialog box, Indents and Spacing tab, under the Spacing category - "Before" and "After", it's 0 pt, I press the Down button, what's that?, what's "Auto"? for what is it made for? for what can I use it? anybody has some idea? |
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I recall seeing it a long long time ago in a printed reference book that
probably predated the existence of HTML and Harry Potter. It's also possible that I oversimplified a little, as well. For example, when you use Auto, Word doesn't add spacing before the first paragraph in the document. Also, it doesn't really make the spacing between paragraphs exactly equal to the point size being used. Rather, as I recall, it uses the point size of the tallest character's "envelope" in the font being used. So, using Arial 12, for example, when you use Auto, that's effectively the same as using Before/After spacing of 14 points -- not 12 points. The relationship between those two numbers varies by font and by point size. As I recall, the ratio (14/12 in this case) tends to get smaller as point size increases. But, the basic point (so to speak) is that when you choose Auto, you [the user] don't have to futz with it. Somebody else has already futzed with in designing the fonts and providing the metrics that Word should use. This also works in conjunction with one or more of the Compatibility options. Notably, "Auto space like Word 95", "Don't add extra space for raised/lowered characters" and "Don't add leading (extra space) between rows of text" seem like likely candidates for things that would be in the back of Auto's mind as it decides whether it needs more space. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP http://www.herbtyson.com Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Is that documented anywhere? If not, how did you figure it out? Also, I suspect it may work well only at normal text point sizes. Change the font size to 72 and see what happens! Another explanation is that it works in conjunction with the "HTML auto paragraph spacing" option. See "WD2000: How to Use the HTML Paragraph Auto Spacing" at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=207893 -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... Auto adds the "appropriate" spacing between paragraphs based on the current point size to achieve effective double spacing between paragraphs. For example, if my current point size is 12, I *could* add before and after spacing of 12 points. This would double space between paragraphs -- but only when the point size is 12. If I later change the point size to 8, 10, 14 or 24, the before/after spacing of 12 will now seem too large or too small. If I set before/after to Auto, however, Word will automatically scale before/after spacing to match the current point size, thus achieving the correct effect automatically. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP http://www.herbtyson.com Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along. "LGFN" wrote in message ... In the Paragraph dialog box, Indents and Spacing tab, under the Spacing category - "Before" and "After", it's 0 pt, I press the Down button, what's that?, what's "Auto"? for what is it made for? for what can I use it? anybody has some idea? |
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All of the descriptions you give, however, apply to "Auto" line spacing
within paragraphs (now called Single), not to Auto spacing *between* paragraphs, which was new in Word 2000 (when the HTML option was added). Also, AFAIK, Single/Auto linespacing *in Word* is a fixed percentage at all point sizes. It varies from font to font (depending on the amount of leading designed into the font), but it is the same at all point sizes, which is why you usually have to use Exact line spacing for large display type. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... I recall seeing it a long long time ago in a printed reference book that probably predated the existence of HTML and Harry Potter. It's also possible that I oversimplified a little, as well. For example, when you use Auto, Word doesn't add spacing before the first paragraph in the document. Also, it doesn't really make the spacing between paragraphs exactly equal to the point size being used. Rather, as I recall, it uses the point size of the tallest character's "envelope" in the font being used. So, using Arial 12, for example, when you use Auto, that's effectively the same as using Before/After spacing of 14 points -- not 12 points. The relationship between those two numbers varies by font and by point size. As I recall, the ratio (14/12 in this case) tends to get smaller as point size increases. But, the basic point (so to speak) is that when you choose Auto, you [the user] don't have to futz with it. Somebody else has already futzed with in designing the fonts and providing the metrics that Word should use. This also works in conjunction with one or more of the Compatibility options. Notably, "Auto space like Word 95", "Don't add extra space for raised/lowered characters" and "Don't add leading (extra space) between rows of text" seem like likely candidates for things that would be in the back of Auto's mind as it decides whether it needs more space. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP http://www.herbtyson.com Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Is that documented anywhere? If not, how did you figure it out? Also, I suspect it may work well only at normal text point sizes. Change the font size to 72 and see what happens! Another explanation is that it works in conjunction with the "HTML auto paragraph spacing" option. See "WD2000: How to Use the HTML Paragraph Auto Spacing" at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=207893 -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... Auto adds the "appropriate" spacing between paragraphs based on the current point size to achieve effective double spacing between paragraphs. For example, if my current point size is 12, I *could* add before and after spacing of 12 points. This would double space between paragraphs -- but only when the point size is 12. If I later change the point size to 8, 10, 14 or 24, the before/after spacing of 12 will now seem too large or too small. If I set before/after to Auto, however, Word will automatically scale before/after spacing to match the current point size, thus achieving the correct effect automatically. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP http://www.herbtyson.com Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along. "LGFN" wrote in message ... In the Paragraph dialog box, Indents and Spacing tab, under the Spacing category - "Before" and "After", it's 0 pt, I press the Down button, what's that?, what's "Auto"? for what is it made for? for what can I use it? anybody has some idea? |
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In theory, perhaps. In practice, however the three I mentioned *do* appear
to interact with the Auto paragraph spacing since they impact the effective (allowed-for) height of the tallest characters in the first and last lines of any given paragraph. I don't pretend to know the formula being used, but I do see subtle but definite differences in between-paragraph spacing when various combinations are used. I suspect also that there are fonts and circumstances that render the difference to be anything but subtle (otherwise, why have those settings?), but I didn't stumble across them in comparing different effects. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP http://www.herbtyson.com Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... All of the descriptions you give, however, apply to "Auto" line spacing within paragraphs (now called Single), not to Auto spacing *between* paragraphs, which was new in Word 2000 (when the HTML option was added). Also, AFAIK, Single/Auto linespacing *in Word* is a fixed percentage at all point sizes. It varies from font to font (depending on the amount of leading designed into the font), but it is the same at all point sizes, which is why you usually have to use Exact line spacing for large display type. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... I recall seeing it a long long time ago in a printed reference book that probably predated the existence of HTML and Harry Potter. It's also possible that I oversimplified a little, as well. For example, when you use Auto, Word doesn't add spacing before the first paragraph in the document. Also, it doesn't really make the spacing between paragraphs exactly equal to the point size being used. Rather, as I recall, it uses the point size of the tallest character's "envelope" in the font being used. So, using Arial 12, for example, when you use Auto, that's effectively the same as using Before/After spacing of 14 points -- not 12 points. The relationship between those two numbers varies by font and by point size. As I recall, the ratio (14/12 in this case) tends to get smaller as point size increases. But, the basic point (so to speak) is that when you choose Auto, you [the user] don't have to futz with it. Somebody else has already futzed with in designing the fonts and providing the metrics that Word should use. This also works in conjunction with one or more of the Compatibility options. Notably, "Auto space like Word 95", "Don't add extra space for raised/lowered characters" and "Don't add leading (extra space) between rows of text" seem like likely candidates for things that would be in the back of Auto's mind as it decides whether it needs more space. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP http://www.herbtyson.com Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Is that documented anywhere? If not, how did you figure it out? Also, I suspect it may work well only at normal text point sizes. Change the font size to 72 and see what happens! Another explanation is that it works in conjunction with the "HTML auto paragraph spacing" option. See "WD2000: How to Use the HTML Paragraph Auto Spacing" at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=207893 -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message ... Auto adds the "appropriate" spacing between paragraphs based on the current point size to achieve effective double spacing between paragraphs. For example, if my current point size is 12, I *could* add before and after spacing of 12 points. This would double space between paragraphs -- but only when the point size is 12. If I later change the point size to 8, 10, 14 or 24, the before/after spacing of 12 will now seem too large or too small. If I set before/after to Auto, however, Word will automatically scale before/after spacing to match the current point size, thus achieving the correct effect automatically. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP http://www.herbtyson.com Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along. "LGFN" wrote in message ... In the Paragraph dialog box, Indents and Spacing tab, under the Spacing category - "Before" and "After", it's 0 pt, I press the Down button, what's that?, what's "Auto"? for what is it made for? for what can I use it? anybody has some idea? |
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"LGFN" wrote: In the Paragraph dialog box, Indents and Spacing tab, under the Spacing category - "Before" and "After", it's 0 pt, I press the Down button, what's that?, what's "Auto"? for what is it made for? for what can I use it? anybody has some idea? |
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