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there is a behavior that Word has which extends a hyphen followed by text
into a long hyphen. What is this, and how can I control it? I actually like
it, but because I don't know what drives it, cannot always replicate it for
some reason. Is this some sort of symbol it defaults to replacing a regular
hyphen with? Or something else?

Thanks.
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Boris
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This happens because AutoFormat as You Type is turned on (look under Tools -
AutoCorrect). You can get the long hyphen by typing -- in a word.

Andrea Jones
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"BorisS" wrote:

there is a behavior that Word has which extends a hyphen followed by text
into a long hyphen. What is this, and how can I control it? I actually like
it, but because I don't know what drives it, cannot always replicate it for
some reason. Is this some sort of symbol it defaults to replacing a regular
hyphen with? Or something else?

Thanks.
--
Boris

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Hello, how can you make it LONGER than that? is there a way to modify and
control this thanks Ellen

"Andrea Jones" wrote:

This happens because AutoFormat as You Type is turned on (look under Tools -
AutoCorrect). You can get the long hyphen by typing -- in a word.

Andrea Jones
http://www.allaboutoffice.co.uk
http://www.stratatraining.co.uk
http://www.allaboutclait.com

"BorisS" wrote:

there is a behavior that Word has which extends a hyphen followed by text
into a long hyphen. What is this, and how can I control it? I actually like
it, but because I don't know what drives it, cannot always replicate it for
some reason. Is this some sort of symbol it defaults to replacing a regular
hyphen with? Or something else?

Thanks.
--
Boris

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You can insert as many em dashes as needed; see my reply to your related
post elsewhere.

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"egrolman" wrote in message
...
Hello, how can you make it LONGER than that? is there a way to modify and
control this thanks Ellen

"Andrea Jones" wrote:

This happens because AutoFormat as You Type is turned on (look under

Tools -
AutoCorrect). You can get the long hyphen by typing -- in a word.

Andrea Jones
http://www.allaboutoffice.co.uk
http://www.stratatraining.co.uk
http://www.allaboutclait.com

"BorisS" wrote:

there is a behavior that Word has which extends a hyphen followed by

text
into a long hyphen. What is this, and how can I control it? I

actually like
it, but because I don't know what drives it, cannot always replicate

it for
some reason. Is this some sort of symbol it defaults to replacing a

regular
hyphen with? Or something else?

Thanks.
--
Boris


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If you have the relevant option selected in Tools | AutoCorrect | AutoFormat
As You Type, Word performs the following conversions:

If you type -- (two hyphens) between words with no spaces before or after,
the two hyphens will be converted to an em dash when you type a space or
punctuation following the word after the hyphens.

If you type one or two hyphens betweens words with a space before or a space
before and after, you'll get an en dash instead.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"BorisS" wrote in message
...
there is a behavior that Word has which extends a hyphen followed by text
into a long hyphen. What is this, and how can I control it? I actually

like
it, but because I don't know what drives it, cannot always replicate it

for
some reason. Is this some sort of symbol it defaults to replacing a

regular
hyphen with? Or something else?

Thanks.
--
Boris




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This is true, but alas, when you get an en dash in this manner, the space
before the dash remains, which is incorrect (it *must* be removed to
correctly punctuate the document).

An en dash can be inserted with Ctrl+Num- (the minus key in the numeric
keypad)

An em dash can be inserted with Ctrl+Alt+Num-

Both can be inserted using the Insert/Symbol menu's special characters tab.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you have the relevant option selected in Tools | AutoCorrect | AutoFormat
As You Type, Word performs the following conversions:

If you type -- (two hyphens) between words with no spaces before or after,
the two hyphens will be converted to an em dash when you type a space or
punctuation following the word after the hyphens.

If you type one or two hyphens betweens words with a space before or a space
before and after, you'll get an en dash instead.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"BorisS" wrote in message
...
there is a behavior that Word has which extends a hyphen followed by text
into a long hyphen. What is this, and how can I control it? I actually

like
it, but because I don't know what drives it, cannot always replicate it

for
some reason. Is this some sort of symbol it defaults to replacing a

regular
hyphen with? Or something else?

Thanks.
--
Boris



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The space before and after the en dash are correct for the way it is being
used; in the U.K. a spaced en dash is used where an em dash (without spaces)
is used in the U.S. There is no AutoFormat option that will produce an en
dash between continuous numbers or elsewhere to indicate "to." For that you
have to use a keyboard shortcut; I just find it easier to use keyboard
shortcuts for both dashes all the time.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Malcolm Patterson" wrote in
message ...
This is true, but alas, when you get an en dash in this manner, the space
before the dash remains, which is incorrect (it *must* be removed to
correctly punctuate the document).

An en dash can be inserted with Ctrl+Num- (the minus key in the numeric
keypad)

An em dash can be inserted with Ctrl+Alt+Num-

Both can be inserted using the Insert/Symbol menu's special characters
tab.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you have the relevant option selected in Tools | AutoCorrect |
AutoFormat
As You Type, Word performs the following conversions:

If you type -- (two hyphens) between words with no spaces before or
after,
the two hyphens will be converted to an em dash when you type a space or
punctuation following the word after the hyphens.

If you type one or two hyphens betweens words with a space before or a
space
before and after, you'll get an en dash instead.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"BorisS" wrote in message
...
there is a behavior that Word has which extends a hyphen followed by
text
into a long hyphen. What is this, and how can I control it? I
actually

like
it, but because I don't know what drives it, cannot always replicate it

for
some reason. Is this some sort of symbol it defaults to replacing a

regular
hyphen with? Or something else?

Thanks.
--
Boris






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Hmm. If Office were installed on my machine as a British English package, I
could agree with you sometimes--if you were using the en dash in lieu of an
American em dash. OTOH, I think the Brits use the en-dash as we do in America
for spanning a range (closed up), so to me (in the States, where the en dash
is ALWAYS closed up) this is nothing but an annoying bug. My Canadian
neighbors will have to manage their usual balancing act.

Meanwhile, I do as you do: keyboard shortcuts whenever available.

I do wish there were a standard shortcut for the double en space (after
heading numerals and before the heading text) and the thin space (for
footnotes, etc.).

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

The space before and after the en dash are correct for the way it is being
used; in the U.K. a spaced en dash is used where an em dash (without spaces)
is used in the U.S. There is no AutoFormat option that will produce an en
dash between continuous numbers or elsewhere to indicate "to." For that you
have to use a keyboard shortcut; I just find it easier to use keyboard
shortcuts for both dashes all the time.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Malcolm Patterson" wrote in
message ...
This is true, but alas, when you get an en dash in this manner, the space
before the dash remains, which is incorrect (it *must* be removed to
correctly punctuate the document).

An en dash can be inserted with Ctrl+Num- (the minus key in the numeric
keypad)

An em dash can be inserted with Ctrl+Alt+Num-

Both can be inserted using the Insert/Symbol menu's special characters
tab.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you have the relevant option selected in Tools | AutoCorrect |
AutoFormat
As You Type, Word performs the following conversions:

If you type -- (two hyphens) between words with no spaces before or
after,
the two hyphens will be converted to an em dash when you type a space or
punctuation following the word after the hyphens.

If you type one or two hyphens betweens words with a space before or a
space
before and after, you'll get an en dash instead.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"BorisS" wrote in message
...
there is a behavior that Word has which extends a hyphen followed by
text
into a long hyphen. What is this, and how can I control it? I
actually
like
it, but because I don't know what drives it, cannot always replicate it
for
some reason. Is this some sort of symbol it defaults to replacing a
regular
hyphen with? Or something else?

Thanks.
--
Boris






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In the Bullets & Numbering panes, you can specify the characters
(including spaces) that appear after the autonumbers. "Double en"
should be the same as em space.

Oops, I'm thinking of FrameMaker again, which includes both of
those ...

On Apr 10, 7:05*pm, Malcolm Patterson
wrote:
Hmm. If Office were installed on my machine as a British English package, I
could agree with you sometimes--if you were using the en dash in lieu of an
American em dash. OTOH, I think the Brits use the en-dash as we do in America
for spanning a range (closed up), so to me (in the States, where the en dash
is ALWAYS closed up) this is nothing but an annoying bug. My Canadian
neighbors will have to manage their usual balancing act.

Meanwhile, I do as you do: keyboard shortcuts whenever available.

I do wish there were a standard shortcut for the double en space (after
heading numerals and before the heading text) and the thin space (for
footnotes, etc.).



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
The space before and after the en dash are correct for the way it is being
used; in the U.K. a spaced en dash is used where an em dash (without spaces)
is used in the U.S. There is no AutoFormat option that will produce an en
dash between continuous numbers or elsewhere to indicate "to." For that you
have to use a keyboard shortcut; I just find it easier to use keyboard
shortcuts for both dashes all the time.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"Malcolm Patterson" wrote in
...
This is true, but alas, when you get an en dash in this manner, the space
before the dash remains, which is incorrect (it *must* be removed to
correctly punctuate the document).


An en dash can be inserted with Ctrl+Num- (the minus key in the numeric
keypad)


An em dash can be inserted with Ctrl+Alt+Num-


Both can be inserted using the Insert/Symbol menu's special characters
tab.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


If you have the relevant option selected in Tools | AutoCorrect |
AutoFormat
As You Type, Word performs the following conversions:


If you type -- (two hyphens) between words with no spaces before or
after,
the two hyphens will be converted to an em dash when you type a space or
punctuation following the word after the hyphens.


If you type one or two hyphens betweens words with a space before or a
space
before and after, you'll get an en dash instead.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site:http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.


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there is a behavior that Word has which extends a hyphen followed by
text
into a long hyphen. *What is this, and how can I control it? *I
actually
like
it, but because I don't know what drives it, cannot always replicate it
for
some reason. *Is this some sort of symbol it defaults to replacing a
regular
hyphen with? *Or something else?

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