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How to center text in book pages when using left aligned body text
I want to place text centered in book pages, but still want to have the
bodytext left aligned in the middle of the pages. Not centered row by row. Rather centered vers by vers; text by text; poem by poem... It is for layout of poem texts with varying row-lengths of the verses /Silfver |
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How to center text in book pages when using left aligned body text
"Silfver" wrote:
I want to place text centered in book pages, but still want to have the bodytext left aligned in the middle of the pages. Not centered row by row. Rather centered vers by vers; text by text; poem by poem... It is for layout of poem texts with varying row-lengths of the verses I think you better post a sample of what you want... I am having some difficulties undesrtanding what left-aligned-centered text is like. If you mean that you want each verse left aligned, but with an indent to give the illusion that it is centered based on the average length of the lines in the verse, then you need to manually apply a left indent to each verse, there is no way to automatically achieve that. I guess you could center-align the whole verse, note down the space between the margin and the position of the first character of the longest line in the verse. Remove the center alignement and apply a left indent equal to the space you just noted down. |
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How to center text in book pages when using left aligned body text
Jean-Guy Marcil wrote:
"Silfver" wrote: I want to place text centered in book pages, but still want to have the bodytext left aligned in the middle of the pages. Not centered row by row. Rather centered vers by vers; text by text; poem by poem... It is for layout of poem texts with varying row-lengths of the verses I think you better post a sample of what you want... I am having some difficulties undesrtanding what left-aligned-centered text is like. If you mean that you want each verse left aligned, but with an indent to give the illusion that it is centered based on the average length of the lines in the verse, then you need to manually apply a left indent to each verse, there is no way to automatically achieve that. I guess you could center-align the whole verse, note down the space between the margin and the position of the first character of the longest line in the verse. Remove the center alignement and apply a left indent equal to the space you just noted down. Another possibility is to place each verse in a one-cell table. The paragraph alignment of the text inside the cell should be Left. Click Table AutoFit AutoFit To Contents. Then click Table Table Properties Center. If you don't want the table's borders to be visible/printable, press Ctrl+Alt+U. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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How to center text in book pages when using left aligned body text
As Jean-Guy says, there's no way to do this other than pretty much manually
and individually. You can define a Poetry style that has an indent that will work for lines of an average length, but you'll still have to adjust it for each poem (most easily done by dragging the indent marker on the ruler). To facilitate this, make sure to use a line break at the end of each verse, with paragraph breaks only between stanzas. This keeps each stanza in a single paragraph, making indent formatting easier and also allowing you to use Space Before/After to insert extra space between stanzas. And congratulations on doing this correctly. I'm so tired of seeing poetry centered on the page using Center alignment, which makes for very difficult reading. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Silfver" wrote in message ... I want to place text centered in book pages, but still want to have the bodytext left aligned in the middle of the pages. Not centered row by row. Rather centered vers by vers; text by text; poem by poem... It is for layout of poem texts with varying row-lengths of the verses /Silfver |
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How to center text in book pages when using left aligned body
"Jay Freedman" wrote:
Another possibility is to place each verse in a one-cell table. The paragraph alignment of the text inside the cell should be Left. Click Table AutoFit AutoFit To Contents. Then click Table Table Properties Center. If you don't want the table's borders to be visible/printable, press Ctrl+Alt+U. Oh yes, good one, with each verse in a one-cell table, it will be easier. Good idea! |
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How to center text in book pages when using left aligned body text
What you can do is indent the same amount, say, 1 inch, from the left and
right margins. But if each poem must be centered exactly, this may take a little case by case guess work. In that case, you can put each poem into an appropriately sized table (without gridlines), and center the table. PamC Silfver wrote: I want to place text centered in book pages, but still want to have the bodytext left aligned in the middle of the pages. Not centered row by row. Rather centered vers by vers; text by text; poem by poem... It is for layout of poem texts with varying row-lengths of the verses /Silfver -- Message posted via http://www.officekb.com |
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How to center text in book pages when using left aligned body text
What a clever idea!
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... Jean-Guy Marcil wrote: "Silfver" wrote: I want to place text centered in book pages, but still want to have the bodytext left aligned in the middle of the pages. Not centered row by row. Rather centered vers by vers; text by text; poem by poem... It is for layout of poem texts with varying row-lengths of the verses I think you better post a sample of what you want... I am having some difficulties undesrtanding what left-aligned-centered text is like. If you mean that you want each verse left aligned, but with an indent to give the illusion that it is centered based on the average length of the lines in the verse, then you need to manually apply a left indent to each verse, there is no way to automatically achieve that. I guess you could center-align the whole verse, note down the space between the margin and the position of the first character of the longest line in the verse. Remove the center alignement and apply a left indent equal to the space you just noted down. Another possibility is to place each verse in a one-cell table. The paragraph alignment of the text inside the cell should be Left. Click Table AutoFit AutoFit To Contents. Then click Table Table Properties Center. If you don't want the table's borders to be visible/printable, press Ctrl+Alt+U. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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How to center text in book pages when using left aligned body
Thanks all,
I am not the author/poet, I just help him with Word things.The reason why we wanted to place texts/verses in the horisontal middle of book pages, but still with left aligned verses, I think came from uncertainty how a print-on-demand-platform could handle asymmetrical left and right pages. If we placed the texts/verses in the middle, left and right pages could have equal layout... By Your answers I now know there is no more or less automatic method or workaround to center the texts the way I asked for. The idea to use table as a layout tool is good. But in this case I hesitate a little. There is 110 texts/poems... There will be a lot of table cells to manage manually in the book... But the trick is good, I sometimes use it to place a little table of 5-6 columns in the footer in for instance an invoice template. With places for: addresses; phone nr; e-mail address; company info; and others... Mostly with no table border lines. Just as a layout tool. When I had sent the question yesterday I biked downtown and visited the library. There I saw it is OK to layout poetry books with left aligned texts at the left page margin in both left and rigth pages. I don't know if there are different standards in Swedish and other countries way of layout poetry books. But I know that the poet who wrote all 110 poems like a litte more classical style... Maybe I can convince him to use a layout that is easy to handle. Easier for me to manage in Word with not to much manually and individual adjusting and settings...(110 poems...!) There is nevertheless a lot of things to alter: To put styles instead of all local formatting in the texts for instance... When I came back from the short bike ride there were already 6 good and engaged answers to my question. Cool... Thank You all... /Silfver "PamC via OfficeKB.com" wrote: What you can do is indent the same amount, say, 1 inch, from the left and right margins. But if each poem must be centered exactly, this may take a little case by case guess work. In that case, you can put each poem into an appropriately sized table (without gridlines), and center the table. PamC Silfver wrote: I want to place text centered in book pages, but still want to have the bodytext left aligned in the middle of the pages. Not centered row by row. Rather centered vers by vers; text by text; poem by poem... It is for layout of poem texts with varying row-lengths of the verses /Silfver -- Message posted via http://www.officekb.com |
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How to center text in book pages when using left aligned body
If you're just concerned about whether print-on-demand can handle "Mirror
margins" or a gutter, I think you should at least inquire, but I should think surely it could (especially if it can handle things like headers and footers, esp. "Different odd and even"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Silfver" wrote in message ... Thanks all, I am not the author/poet, I just help him with Word things.The reason why we wanted to place texts/verses in the horisontal middle of book pages, but still with left aligned verses, I think came from uncertainty how a print-on-demand-platform could handle asymmetrical left and right pages. If we placed the texts/verses in the middle, left and right pages could have equal layout... By Your answers I now know there is no more or less automatic method or workaround to center the texts the way I asked for. The idea to use table as a layout tool is good. But in this case I hesitate a little. There is 110 texts/poems... There will be a lot of table cells to manage manually in the book... But the trick is good, I sometimes use it to place a little table of 5-6 columns in the footer in for instance an invoice template. With places for: addresses; phone nr; e-mail address; company info; and others... Mostly with no table border lines. Just as a layout tool. When I had sent the question yesterday I biked downtown and visited the library. There I saw it is OK to layout poetry books with left aligned texts at the left page margin in both left and rigth pages. I don't know if there are different standards in Swedish and other countries way of layout poetry books. But I know that the poet who wrote all 110 poems like a litte more classical style... Maybe I can convince him to use a layout that is easy to handle. Easier for me to manage in Word with not to much manually and individual adjusting and settings...(110 poems...!) There is nevertheless a lot of things to alter: To put styles instead of all local formatting in the texts for instance... When I came back from the short bike ride there were already 6 good and engaged answers to my question. Cool... Thank You all... /Silfver "PamC via OfficeKB.com" wrote: What you can do is indent the same amount, say, 1 inch, from the left and right margins. But if each poem must be centered exactly, this may take a little case by case guess work. In that case, you can put each poem into an appropriately sized table (without gridlines), and center the table. PamC Silfver wrote: I want to place text centered in book pages, but still want to have the bodytext left aligned in the middle of the pages. Not centered row by row. Rather centered vers by vers; text by text; poem by poem... It is for layout of poem texts with varying row-lengths of the verses /Silfver -- Message posted via http://www.officekb.com |
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How to center text in book pages when using left aligned body
I think the author/poet (friend of a friend) I am helping with some Word
things is some kind of member to a print-on-demand-platform. I have passed some specific questions to the print-on-demand via him. While waiting on answers I am testing some layout ideas. To be prepared. Next thing is to overlook the texts and get them consequent what concerns paragraph breaks and so on. Then shift out local/direct formatting to real styles with Find and Replace. If that is best to do before or after we join all the separate files into one single I have to test a little before. The print-on-demand say in their FAQ that they can take a single file in either .doc or PDF format. To join all the files into a huge single one I have found an add-in/macro (Boiler) for Word made by Woody Leonhard/Graham Taylor. Have not tried it yet but think it will do exactly what we need... /Silfver "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: If you're just concerned about whether print-on-demand can handle "Mirror margins" or a gutter, I think you should at least inquire, but I should think surely it could (especially if it can handle things like headers and footers, esp. "Different odd and even"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA |
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How to center text in book pages when using left aligned body
Graham Major .. not Taylor. Sorry!
"Silfver" wrote: I think the author/poet (friend of a friend) I am helping with some Word things is some kind of member to a print-on-demand-platform. I have passed some specific questions to the print-on-demand via him. While waiting on answers I am testing some layout ideas. To be prepared. Next thing is to overlook the texts and get them consequent what concerns paragraph breaks and so on. Then shift out local/direct formatting to real styles with Find and Replace. If that is best to do before or after we join all the separate files into one single I have to test a little before. The print-on-demand say in their FAQ that they can take a single file in either .doc or PDF format. To join all the files into a huge single one I have found an add-in/macro (Boiler) for Word made by Woody Leonhard/Graham Taylor. Have not tried it yet but think it will do exactly what we need... /Silfver "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: If you're just concerned about whether print-on-demand can handle "Mirror margins" or a gutter, I think you should at least inquire, but I should think surely it could (especially if it can handle things like headers and footers, esp. "Different odd and even"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA |
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How to center text in book pages when using left aligned body
Anything you can do in Word and output to PDF should be perfect. I'd
strongly advise supplying a PDF if you possibly can. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Silfver" wrote in message ... I think the author/poet (friend of a friend) I am helping with some Word things is some kind of member to a print-on-demand-platform. I have passed some specific questions to the print-on-demand via him. While waiting on answers I am testing some layout ideas. To be prepared. Next thing is to overlook the texts and get them consequent what concerns paragraph breaks and so on. Then shift out local/direct formatting to real styles with Find and Replace. If that is best to do before or after we join all the separate files into one single I have to test a little before. The print-on-demand say in their FAQ that they can take a single file in either .doc or PDF format. To join all the files into a huge single one I have found an add-in/macro (Boiler) for Word made by Woody Leonhard/Graham Taylor. Have not tried it yet but think it will do exactly what we need... /Silfver "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: If you're just concerned about whether print-on-demand can handle "Mirror margins" or a gutter, I think you should at least inquire, but I should think surely it could (especially if it can handle things like headers and footers, esp. "Different odd and even"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA |
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How to center text in book pages when using left aligned body
My name is Mayor!
http://www.gmayor.com/downloads.htm -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Silfver wrote: Graham Major .. not Taylor. Sorry! "Silfver" wrote: I think the author/poet (friend of a friend) I am helping with some Word things is some kind of member to a print-on-demand-platform. I have passed some specific questions to the print-on-demand via him. While waiting on answers I am testing some layout ideas. To be prepared. Next thing is to overlook the texts and get them consequent what concerns paragraph breaks and so on. Then shift out local/direct formatting to real styles with Find and Replace. If that is best to do before or after we join all the separate files into one single I have to test a little before. The print-on-demand say in their FAQ that they can take a single file in either .doc or PDF format. To join all the files into a huge single one I have found an add-in/macro (Boiler) for Word made by Woody Leonhard/Graham Taylor. Have not tried it yet but think it will do exactly what we need... /Silfver "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: If you're just concerned about whether print-on-demand can handle "Mirror margins" or a gutter, I think you should at least inquire, but I should think surely it could (especially if it can handle things like headers and footers, esp. "Different odd and even"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA |
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How to center text in book pages when using left aligned body
Oh, Sorry again! Must have been tired yesterday...
/Silfver "Graham Mayor" wrote: My name is Mayor! http://www.gmayor.com/downloads.htm -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Silfver wrote: Graham Major .. not Taylor. Sorry! "Silfver" wrote: I think the author/poet (friend of a friend) I am helping with some Word things is some kind of member to a print-on-demand-platform. I have passed some specific questions to the print-on-demand via him. While waiting on answers I am testing some layout ideas. To be prepared. Next thing is to overlook the texts and get them consequent what concerns paragraph breaks and so on. Then shift out local/direct formatting to real styles with Find and Replace. If that is best to do before or after we join all the separate files into one single I have to test a little before. The print-on-demand say in their FAQ that they can take a single file in either .doc or PDF format. To join all the files into a huge single one I have found an add-in/macro (Boiler) for Word made by Woody Leonhard/Graham Taylor. Have not tried it yet but think it will do exactly what we need... /Silfver "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: If you're just concerned about whether print-on-demand can handle "Mirror margins" or a gutter, I think you should at least inquire, but I should think surely it could (especially if it can handle things like headers and footers, esp. "Different odd and even"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA |
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