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Camera ready copy
Hope this doesn't seem a slightly off the wall question! But if somebody
asks for 'camera ready copy' in Word what exactly do they mean?!!!! |
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They mean copy that will be reproduced exactly. Although printing nowadays
is often "computer-to-plate" (meaning that the printer will want your document as an electronic file of some sort), old-fashioned offset printers make their plates by photographing typeset copy. I've prepared a lot of CRC in my day (that's what I prefer to do, in fact), and this can be handled in various ways. If you have a printer that is capable of 1200 dpi, that's plenty good enough for CRC (even high-resolution imagesetters use only 2400, I think), and 600 dpi is usually not too bad for text. Sometimes, however, you'll be asked to create CRC that is some fixed percentage larger than the ultimate output, and the printer will "shoot it down" to the correct size (which increases the effective resolution). This is especially practical if you're printing a standard octavo book (usually about 6" x 9") and preparing the copy on Letter-sized paper. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "C Tate" wrote in message ... Hope this doesn't seem a slightly off the wall question! But if somebody asks for 'camera ready copy' in Word what exactly do they mean?!!!! |
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C Tate wrote:
Hope this doesn't seem a slightly off the wall question! But if somebody asks for 'camera ready copy' in Word what exactly do they mean?!!!! In offset printing (the cheapest, easiest method), someone uses a press camera to take a picture of each original page. Through several steps the negative from that camera is used to make printing plates that apply ink to sheets of paper. The original page is "camera ready" when it contains all the text and graphics that should be in the final printing, and nothing else. (Technically, since the film in the press camera is insensitive to light blue, it's possible to write comments on camera ready pages with light blue pencil. This is usually allowed only in the margins, though.) It means a spell-check has been done, all corrections have been made, all fonts and formatting are in place, headers and footers are included, etc. This isn't exclusively a Word thing -- in fact, once you've used the computer printer to put a Word document on paper, it doesn't matter whether the pages came from Word or from Mars. In fact, I would never say that a document is "camera ready" while it exists only as an electronic document. The amount of work needed to convert camera ready copy into printing plates, and the extra work and expense that may be needed to fix errors after that stage, mean that you have to be very sure that everything is right before you say the pages are "camera ready". -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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Thank you both very much indeed for such helpful replies. Is there anything
I can refer to to learn even more about this? (It sounds like just making sure your document is perfect for the camera though there are sometimes other considerations such as the CRC being a fixed percentage larger than the ultimate output). "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... C Tate wrote: Hope this doesn't seem a slightly off the wall question! But if somebody asks for 'camera ready copy' in Word what exactly do they mean?!!!! In offset printing (the cheapest, easiest method), someone uses a press camera to take a picture of each original page. Through several steps the negative from that camera is used to make printing plates that apply ink to sheets of paper. The original page is "camera ready" when it contains all the text and graphics that should be in the final printing, and nothing else. (Technically, since the film in the press camera is insensitive to light blue, it's possible to write comments on camera ready pages with light blue pencil. This is usually allowed only in the margins, though.) It means a spell-check has been done, all corrections have been made, all fonts and formatting are in place, headers and footers are included, etc. This isn't exclusively a Word thing -- in fact, once you've used the computer printer to put a Word document on paper, it doesn't matter whether the pages came from Word or from Mars. In fact, I would never say that a document is "camera ready" while it exists only as an electronic document. The amount of work needed to convert camera ready copy into printing plates, and the extra work and expense that may be needed to fix errors after that stage, mean that you have to be very sure that everything is right before you say the pages are "camera ready". -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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In the "olden days" when I created documents on a typewriter, CRC was
routinely "shot down" because typewriter text was large and ungainly and illustrations that weren't necessarily perfect were enhanced by reduction. In those days, graphs, drawings, photographs, etc., had to be pasted up on the CRC. If you'd ever visited a newspaper or an ad agency, you would have seen people "making up pages" in this way. Creating a document using page layout software (or even word processing software such as Word) is exponentially easier than it was in those days! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "C Tate" wrote in message ... Thank you both very much indeed for such helpful replies. Is there anything I can refer to to learn even more about this? (It sounds like just making sure your document is perfect for the camera though there are sometimes other considerations such as the CRC being a fixed percentage larger than the ultimate output). "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... C Tate wrote: Hope this doesn't seem a slightly off the wall question! But if somebody asks for 'camera ready copy' in Word what exactly do they mean?!!!! In offset printing (the cheapest, easiest method), someone uses a press camera to take a picture of each original page. Through several steps the negative from that camera is used to make printing plates that apply ink to sheets of paper. The original page is "camera ready" when it contains all the text and graphics that should be in the final printing, and nothing else. (Technically, since the film in the press camera is insensitive to light blue, it's possible to write comments on camera ready pages with light blue pencil. This is usually allowed only in the margins, though.) It means a spell-check has been done, all corrections have been made, all fonts and formatting are in place, headers and footers are included, etc. This isn't exclusively a Word thing -- in fact, once you've used the computer printer to put a Word document on paper, it doesn't matter whether the pages came from Word or from Mars. In fact, I would never say that a document is "camera ready" while it exists only as an electronic document. The amount of work needed to convert camera ready copy into printing plates, and the extra work and expense that may be needed to fix errors after that stage, mean that you have to be very sure that everything is right before you say the pages are "camera ready". -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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Not nearly as much fun, though. Don't you miss the smell of wax, or all
those hours spent Letrasetting the headings? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... In the "olden days" when I created documents on a typewriter, CRC was routinely "shot down" because typewriter text was large and ungainly and illustrations that weren't necessarily perfect were enhanced by reduction. In those days, graphs, drawings, photographs, etc., had to be pasted up on the CRC. If you'd ever visited a newspaper or an ad agency, you would have seen people "making up pages" in this way. Creating a document using page layout software (or even word processing software such as Word) is exponentially easier than it was in those days! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "C Tate" wrote in message ... Thank you both very much indeed for such helpful replies. Is there anything I can refer to to learn even more about this? (It sounds like just making sure your document is perfect for the camera though there are sometimes other considerations such as the CRC being a fixed percentage larger than the ultimate output). "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... C Tate wrote: Hope this doesn't seem a slightly off the wall question! But if somebody asks for 'camera ready copy' in Word what exactly do they mean?!!!! In offset printing (the cheapest, easiest method), someone uses a press camera to take a picture of each original page. Through several steps the negative from that camera is used to make printing plates that apply ink to sheets of paper. The original page is "camera ready" when it contains all the text and graphics that should be in the final printing, and nothing else. (Technically, since the film in the press camera is insensitive to light blue, it's possible to write comments on camera ready pages with light blue pencil. This is usually allowed only in the margins, though.) It means a spell-check has been done, all corrections have been made, all fonts and formatting are in place, headers and footers are included, etc. This isn't exclusively a Word thing -- in fact, once you've used the computer printer to put a Word document on paper, it doesn't matter whether the pages came from Word or from Mars. In fact, I would never say that a document is "camera ready" while it exists only as an electronic document. The amount of work needed to convert camera ready copy into printing plates, and the extra work and expense that may be needed to fix errors after that stage, mean that you have to be very sure that everything is right before you say the pages are "camera ready". -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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You used wax? We used rubber cement -- almost as much fun as cannabis!
We had a little photosetter for headlines, but we did use tons of Letraset for labeling illustrations. I still have a box of it tucked away under my desk (not far from the slide rule). -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:57:20 +1100, "Jezebel" wrote: Not nearly as much fun, though. Don't you miss the smell of wax, or all those hours spent Letrasetting the headings? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... In the "olden days" when I created documents on a typewriter, CRC was routinely "shot down" because typewriter text was large and ungainly and illustrations that weren't necessarily perfect were enhanced by reduction. In those days, graphs, drawings, photographs, etc., had to be pasted up on the CRC. If you'd ever visited a newspaper or an ad agency, you would have seen people "making up pages" in this way. Creating a document using page layout software (or even word processing software such as Word) is exponentially easier than it was in those days! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "C Tate" wrote in message ... Thank you both very much indeed for such helpful replies. Is there anything I can refer to to learn even more about this? (It sounds like just making sure your document is perfect for the camera though there are sometimes other considerations such as the CRC being a fixed percentage larger than the ultimate output). "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... C Tate wrote: Hope this doesn't seem a slightly off the wall question! But if somebody asks for 'camera ready copy' in Word what exactly do they mean?!!!! In offset printing (the cheapest, easiest method), someone uses a press camera to take a picture of each original page. Through several steps the negative from that camera is used to make printing plates that apply ink to sheets of paper. The original page is "camera ready" when it contains all the text and graphics that should be in the final printing, and nothing else. (Technically, since the film in the press camera is insensitive to light blue, it's possible to write comments on camera ready pages with light blue pencil. This is usually allowed only in the margins, though.) It means a spell-check has been done, all corrections have been made, all fonts and formatting are in place, headers and footers are included, etc. This isn't exclusively a Word thing -- in fact, once you've used the computer printer to put a Word document on paper, it doesn't matter whether the pages came from Word or from Mars. In fact, I would never say that a document is "camera ready" while it exists only as an electronic document. The amount of work needed to convert camera ready copy into printing plates, and the extra work and expense that may be needed to fix errors after that stage, mean that you have to be very sure that everything is right before you say the pages are "camera ready". -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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Rubber cement was a buzz, indeed, (although I have grave doubts about the
quality your cannabis!) ... but a waxing machine was what the pros all used. I'll bet your Letraset's lost all its serifs by now. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... You used wax? We used rubber cement -- almost as much fun as cannabis! We had a little photosetter for headlines, but we did use tons of Letraset for labeling illustrations. I still have a box of it tucked away under my desk (not far from the slide rule). -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:57:20 +1100, "Jezebel" wrote: Not nearly as much fun, though. Don't you miss the smell of wax, or all those hours spent Letrasetting the headings? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message .. . In the "olden days" when I created documents on a typewriter, CRC was routinely "shot down" because typewriter text was large and ungainly and illustrations that weren't necessarily perfect were enhanced by reduction. In those days, graphs, drawings, photographs, etc., had to be pasted up on the CRC. If you'd ever visited a newspaper or an ad agency, you would have seen people "making up pages" in this way. Creating a document using page layout software (or even word processing software such as Word) is exponentially easier than it was in those days! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "C Tate" wrote in message ... Thank you both very much indeed for such helpful replies. Is there anything I can refer to to learn even more about this? (It sounds like just making sure your document is perfect for the camera though there are sometimes other considerations such as the CRC being a fixed percentage larger than the ultimate output). "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... C Tate wrote: Hope this doesn't seem a slightly off the wall question! But if somebody asks for 'camera ready copy' in Word what exactly do they mean?!!!! In offset printing (the cheapest, easiest method), someone uses a press camera to take a picture of each original page. Through several steps the negative from that camera is used to make printing plates that apply ink to sheets of paper. The original page is "camera ready" when it contains all the text and graphics that should be in the final printing, and nothing else. (Technically, since the film in the press camera is insensitive to light blue, it's possible to write comments on camera ready pages with light blue pencil. This is usually allowed only in the margins, though.) It means a spell-check has been done, all corrections have been made, all fonts and formatting are in place, headers and footers are included, etc. This isn't exclusively a Word thing -- in fact, once you've used the computer printer to put a Word document on paper, it doesn't matter whether the pages came from Word or from Mars. In fact, I would never say that a document is "camera ready" while it exists only as an electronic document. The amount of work needed to convert camera ready copy into printing plates, and the extra work and expense that may be needed to fix errors after that stage, mean that you have to be very sure that everything is right before you say the pages are "camera ready". -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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I did this only in an amateurish sort of way. I used rubber cement, too,
though also flirted with glue sticks and spray adhesive and roll-on adhesives of various sorts. It would have helped tremendously to have a light box, something I acquired only after my need for it was largely over (I had to depend on eyeballing and windowpanes). But my paste-ups were not for CRC--just manuscripts. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jezebel" wrote in message ... Rubber cement was a buzz, indeed, (although I have grave doubts about the quality your cannabis!) ... but a waxing machine was what the pros all used. I'll bet your Letraset's lost all its serifs by now. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... You used wax? We used rubber cement -- almost as much fun as cannabis! We had a little photosetter for headlines, but we did use tons of Letraset for labeling illustrations. I still have a box of it tucked away under my desk (not far from the slide rule). -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:57:20 +1100, "Jezebel" wrote: Not nearly as much fun, though. Don't you miss the smell of wax, or all those hours spent Letrasetting the headings? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message .. . In the "olden days" when I created documents on a typewriter, CRC was routinely "shot down" because typewriter text was large and ungainly and illustrations that weren't necessarily perfect were enhanced by reduction. In those days, graphs, drawings, photographs, etc., had to be pasted up on the CRC. If you'd ever visited a newspaper or an ad agency, you would have seen people "making up pages" in this way. Creating a document using page layout software (or even word processing software such as Word) is exponentially easier than it was in those days! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "C Tate" wrote in message ... Thank you both very much indeed for such helpful replies. Is there anything I can refer to to learn even more about this? (It sounds like just making sure your document is perfect for the camera though there are sometimes other considerations such as the CRC being a fixed percentage larger than the ultimate output). "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... C Tate wrote: Hope this doesn't seem a slightly off the wall question! But if somebody asks for 'camera ready copy' in Word what exactly do they mean?!!!! In offset printing (the cheapest, easiest method), someone uses a press camera to take a picture of each original page. Through several steps the negative from that camera is used to make printing plates that apply ink to sheets of paper. The original page is "camera ready" when it contains all the text and graphics that should be in the final printing, and nothing else. (Technically, since the film in the press camera is insensitive to light blue, it's possible to write comments on camera ready pages with light blue pencil. This is usually allowed only in the margins, though.) It means a spell-check has been done, all corrections have been made, all fonts and formatting are in place, headers and footers are included, etc. This isn't exclusively a Word thing -- in fact, once you've used the computer printer to put a Word document on paper, it doesn't matter whether the pages came from Word or from Mars. In fact, I would never say that a document is "camera ready" while it exists only as an electronic document. The amount of work needed to convert camera ready copy into printing plates, and the extra work and expense that may be needed to fix errors after that stage, mean that you have to be very sure that everything is right before you say the pages are "camera ready". -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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LOL - this thread certainly brought back some memories :-). In the 1970s ICL
provided cans of rubber cement for the odd occasions when the authors did their own CRC. I can remember a colleague literally falling over in hysterics at the end of a long afternoon pasting in pictures of data entry forms. (I also remember when the cleaners, searching for coins or snacks in someone's top drawer, left a poorly lidded can on its side ... ). When we got into CRC in a big way here in the 80s we quickly found that sticking graphics into hundreds of pages of troff output and meeting printers' deadlines demanded a proper scalpel, wax roller kit and a home-made light box. By that stage we had an artist producing graphics on the Mac and had left the Rotring and the Letraset behind - I think the Letraset finally got thrown out when it started spattering tiny shards in the drawer with the slide rule! -- Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I did this only in an amateurish sort of way. I used rubber cement, too, though also flirted with glue sticks and spray adhesive and roll-on adhesives of various sorts. It would have helped tremendously to have a light box, something I acquired only after my need for it was largely over (I had to depend on eyeballing and windowpanes). But my paste-ups were not for CRC--just manuscripts. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jezebel" wrote in message ... Rubber cement was a buzz, indeed, (although I have grave doubts about the quality your cannabis!) ... but a waxing machine was what the pros all used. I'll bet your Letraset's lost all its serifs by now. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... You used wax? We used rubber cement -- almost as much fun as cannabis! We had a little photosetter for headlines, but we did use tons of Letraset for labeling illustrations. I still have a box of it tucked away under my desk (not far from the slide rule). -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:57:20 +1100, "Jezebel" wrote: Not nearly as much fun, though. Don't you miss the smell of wax, or all those hours spent Letrasetting the headings? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message .. . In the "olden days" when I created documents on a typewriter, CRC was routinely "shot down" because typewriter text was large and ungainly and illustrations that weren't necessarily perfect were enhanced by reduction. In those days, graphs, drawings, photographs, etc., had to be pasted up on the CRC. If you'd ever visited a newspaper or an ad agency, you would have seen people "making up pages" in this way. Creating a document using page layout software (or even word processing software such as Word) is exponentially easier than it was in those days! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "C Tate" wrote in message ... Thank you both very much indeed for such helpful replies. Is there anything I can refer to to learn even more about this? (It sounds like just making sure your document is perfect for the camera though there are sometimes other considerations such as the CRC being a fixed percentage larger than the ultimate output). "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... C Tate wrote: Hope this doesn't seem a slightly off the wall question! But if somebody asks for 'camera ready copy' in Word what exactly do they mean?!!!! In offset printing (the cheapest, easiest method), someone uses a press camera to take a picture of each original page. Through several steps the negative from that camera is used to make printing plates that apply ink to sheets of paper. The original page is "camera ready" when it contains all the text and graphics that should be in the final printing, and nothing else. (Technically, since the film in the press camera is insensitive to light blue, it's possible to write comments on camera ready pages with light blue pencil. This is usually allowed only in the margins, though.) It means a spell-check has been done, all corrections have been made, all fonts and formatting are in place, headers and footers are included, etc. This isn't exclusively a Word thing -- in fact, once you've used the computer printer to put a Word document on paper, it doesn't matter whether the pages came from Word or from Mars. In fact, I would never say that a document is "camera ready" while it exists only as an electronic document. The amount of work needed to convert camera ready copy into printing plates, and the extra work and expense that may be needed to fix errors after that stage, mean that you have to be very sure that everything is right before you say the pages are "camera ready". -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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troff output .... now there's a glimmer from a murky past. Even the
hard-coded error messages were witty. "Margaret Aldis" wrote in message ... LOL - this thread certainly brought back some memories :-). In the 1970s ICL provided cans of rubber cement for the odd occasions when the authors did their own CRC. I can remember a colleague literally falling over in hysterics at the end of a long afternoon pasting in pictures of data entry forms. (I also remember when the cleaners, searching for coins or snacks in someone's top drawer, left a poorly lidded can on its side ... ). When we got into CRC in a big way here in the 80s we quickly found that sticking graphics into hundreds of pages of troff output and meeting printers' deadlines demanded a proper scalpel, wax roller kit and a home-made light box. By that stage we had an artist producing graphics on the Mac and had left the Rotring and the Letraset behind - I think the Letraset finally got thrown out when it started spattering tiny shards in the drawer with the slide rule! -- Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I did this only in an amateurish sort of way. I used rubber cement, too, though also flirted with glue sticks and spray adhesive and roll-on adhesives of various sorts. It would have helped tremendously to have a light box, something I acquired only after my need for it was largely over (I had to depend on eyeballing and windowpanes). But my paste-ups were not for CRC--just manuscripts. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jezebel" wrote in message ... Rubber cement was a buzz, indeed, (although I have grave doubts about the quality your cannabis!) ... but a waxing machine was what the pros all used. I'll bet your Letraset's lost all its serifs by now. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... You used wax? We used rubber cement -- almost as much fun as cannabis! We had a little photosetter for headlines, but we did use tons of Letraset for labeling illustrations. I still have a box of it tucked away under my desk (not far from the slide rule). -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:57:20 +1100, "Jezebel" wrote: Not nearly as much fun, though. Don't you miss the smell of wax, or all those hours spent Letrasetting the headings? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message .. . In the "olden days" when I created documents on a typewriter, CRC was routinely "shot down" because typewriter text was large and ungainly and illustrations that weren't necessarily perfect were enhanced by reduction. In those days, graphs, drawings, photographs, etc., had to be pasted up on the CRC. If you'd ever visited a newspaper or an ad agency, you would have seen people "making up pages" in this way. Creating a document using page layout software (or even word processing software such as Word) is exponentially easier than it was in those days! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "C Tate" wrote in message ... Thank you both very much indeed for such helpful replies. Is there anything I can refer to to learn even more about this? (It sounds like just making sure your document is perfect for the camera though there are sometimes other considerations such as the CRC being a fixed percentage larger than the ultimate output). "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... C Tate wrote: Hope this doesn't seem a slightly off the wall question! But if somebody asks for 'camera ready copy' in Word what exactly do they mean?!!!! In offset printing (the cheapest, easiest method), someone uses a press camera to take a picture of each original page. Through several steps the negative from that camera is used to make printing plates that apply ink to sheets of paper. The original page is "camera ready" when it contains all the text and graphics that should be in the final printing, and nothing else. (Technically, since the film in the press camera is insensitive to light blue, it's possible to write comments on camera ready pages with light blue pencil. This is usually allowed only in the margins, though.) It means a spell-check has been done, all corrections have been made, all fonts and formatting are in place, headers and footers are included, etc. This isn't exclusively a Word thing -- in fact, once you've used the computer printer to put a Word document on paper, it doesn't matter whether the pages came from Word or from Mars. In fact, I would never say that a document is "camera ready" while it exists only as an electronic document. The amount of work needed to convert camera ready copy into printing plates, and the extra work and expense that may be needed to fix errors after that stage, mean that you have to be very sure that everything is right before you say the pages are "camera ready". -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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You make me quite envious. I was always intrigued by the way things were
done in proper setups, but I never had the equipment myself (or really any need for it, since I was producing only MS). But my grandfather was a printer, so I did get to have my name cast in Linotype every summer, wander amongst the presses, play with the perforating machine, watch the folder (whose operations were nothing short of miraculous, but too rapid to fathom), and (as sternly warned) stay strictly clear of the guillotine. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Margaret Aldis" wrote in message ... LOL - this thread certainly brought back some memories :-). In the 1970s ICL provided cans of rubber cement for the odd occasions when the authors did their own CRC. I can remember a colleague literally falling over in hysterics at the end of a long afternoon pasting in pictures of data entry forms. (I also remember when the cleaners, searching for coins or snacks in someone's top drawer, left a poorly lidded can on its side ... ). When we got into CRC in a big way here in the 80s we quickly found that sticking graphics into hundreds of pages of troff output and meeting printers' deadlines demanded a proper scalpel, wax roller kit and a home-made light box. By that stage we had an artist producing graphics on the Mac and had left the Rotring and the Letraset behind - I think the Letraset finally got thrown out when it started spattering tiny shards in the drawer with the slide rule! -- Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I did this only in an amateurish sort of way. I used rubber cement, too, though also flirted with glue sticks and spray adhesive and roll-on adhesives of various sorts. It would have helped tremendously to have a light box, something I acquired only after my need for it was largely over (I had to depend on eyeballing and windowpanes). But my paste-ups were not for CRC--just manuscripts. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jezebel" wrote in message ... Rubber cement was a buzz, indeed, (although I have grave doubts about the quality your cannabis!) ... but a waxing machine was what the pros all used. I'll bet your Letraset's lost all its serifs by now. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... You used wax? We used rubber cement -- almost as much fun as cannabis! We had a little photosetter for headlines, but we did use tons of Letraset for labeling illustrations. I still have a box of it tucked away under my desk (not far from the slide rule). -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:57:20 +1100, "Jezebel" wrote: Not nearly as much fun, though. Don't you miss the smell of wax, or all those hours spent Letrasetting the headings? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message .. . In the "olden days" when I created documents on a typewriter, CRC was routinely "shot down" because typewriter text was large and ungainly and illustrations that weren't necessarily perfect were enhanced by reduction. In those days, graphs, drawings, photographs, etc., had to be pasted up on the CRC. If you'd ever visited a newspaper or an ad agency, you would have seen people "making up pages" in this way. Creating a document using page layout software (or even word processing software such as Word) is exponentially easier than it was in those days! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "C Tate" wrote in message ... Thank you both very much indeed for such helpful replies. Is there anything I can refer to to learn even more about this? (It sounds like just making sure your document is perfect for the camera though there are sometimes other considerations such as the CRC being a fixed percentage larger than the ultimate output). "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... C Tate wrote: Hope this doesn't seem a slightly off the wall question! But if somebody asks for 'camera ready copy' in Word what exactly do they mean?!!!! In offset printing (the cheapest, easiest method), someone uses a press camera to take a picture of each original page. Through several steps the negative from that camera is used to make printing plates that apply ink to sheets of paper. The original page is "camera ready" when it contains all the text and graphics that should be in the final printing, and nothing else. (Technically, since the film in the press camera is insensitive to light blue, it's possible to write comments on camera ready pages with light blue pencil. This is usually allowed only in the margins, though.) It means a spell-check has been done, all corrections have been made, all fonts and formatting are in place, headers and footers are included, etc. This isn't exclusively a Word thing -- in fact, once you've used the computer printer to put a Word document on paper, it doesn't matter whether the pages came from Word or from Mars. In fact, I would never say that a document is "camera ready" while it exists only as an electronic document. The amount of work needed to convert camera ready copy into printing plates, and the extra work and expense that may be needed to fix errors after that stage, mean that you have to be very sure that everything is right before you say the pages are "camera ready". -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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My grandfather (and father) was a printer also so I had the same childhood
experiences of wandering around his premises - and that guillotine used to give me nightmares. Even today I would not wish to go near such a device 50 years on and I can still smell the hot lead, ink and paper dust. Happy days -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: You make me quite envious. I was always intrigued by the way things were done in proper setups, but I never had the equipment myself (or really any need for it, since I was producing only MS). But my grandfather was a printer, so I did get to have my name cast in Linotype every summer, wander amongst the presses, play with the perforating machine, watch the folder (whose operations were nothing short of miraculous, but too rapid to fathom), and (as sternly warned) stay strictly clear of the guillotine. "Margaret Aldis" wrote in message ... LOL - this thread certainly brought back some memories :-). In the 1970s ICL provided cans of rubber cement for the odd occasions when the authors did their own CRC. I can remember a colleague literally falling over in hysterics at the end of a long afternoon pasting in pictures of data entry forms. (I also remember when the cleaners, searching for coins or snacks in someone's top drawer, left a poorly lidded can on its side ... ). When we got into CRC in a big way here in the 80s we quickly found that sticking graphics into hundreds of pages of troff output and meeting printers' deadlines demanded a proper scalpel, wax roller kit and a home-made light box. By that stage we had an artist producing graphics on the Mac and had left the Rotring and the Letraset behind - I think the Letraset finally got thrown out when it started spattering tiny shards in the drawer with the slide rule! -- Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I did this only in an amateurish sort of way. I used rubber cement, too, though also flirted with glue sticks and spray adhesive and roll-on adhesives of various sorts. It would have helped tremendously to have a light box, something I acquired only after my need for it was largely over (I had to depend on eyeballing and windowpanes). But my paste-ups were not for CRC--just manuscripts. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jezebel" wrote in message ... Rubber cement was a buzz, indeed, (although I have grave doubts about the quality your cannabis!) ... but a waxing machine was what the pros all used. I'll bet your Letraset's lost all its serifs by now. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... You used wax? We used rubber cement -- almost as much fun as cannabis! We had a little photosetter for headlines, but we did use tons of Letraset for labeling illustrations. I still have a box of it tucked away under my desk (not far from the slide rule). -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:57:20 +1100, "Jezebel" wrote: Not nearly as much fun, though. Don't you miss the smell of wax, or all those hours spent Letrasetting the headings? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... In the "olden days" when I created documents on a typewriter, CRC was routinely "shot down" because typewriter text was large and ungainly and illustrations that weren't necessarily perfect were enhanced by reduction. In those days, graphs, drawings, photographs, etc., had to be pasted up on the CRC. If you'd ever visited a newspaper or an ad agency, you would have seen people "making up pages" in this way. Creating a document using page layout software (or even word processing software such as Word) is exponentially easier than it was in those days! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "C Tate" wrote in message ... Thank you both very much indeed for such helpful replies. Is there anything I can refer to to learn even more about this? (It sounds like just making sure your document is perfect for the camera though there are sometimes other considerations such as the CRC being a fixed percentage larger than the ultimate output). "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... C Tate wrote: Hope this doesn't seem a slightly off the wall question! But if somebody asks for 'camera ready copy' in Word what exactly do they mean?!!!! In offset printing (the cheapest, easiest method), someone uses a press camera to take a picture of each original page. Through several steps the negative from that camera is used to make printing plates that apply ink to sheets of paper. The original page is "camera ready" when it contains all the text and graphics that should be in the final printing, and nothing else. (Technically, since the film in the press camera is insensitive to light blue, it's possible to write comments on camera ready pages with light blue pencil. This is usually allowed only in the margins, though.) It means a spell-check has been done, all corrections have been made, all fonts and formatting are in place, headers and footers are included, etc. This isn't exclusively a Word thing -- in fact, once you've used the computer printer to put a Word document on paper, it doesn't matter whether the pages came from Word or from Mars. In fact, I would never say that a document is "camera ready" while it exists only as an electronic document. The amount of work needed to convert camera ready copy into printing plates, and the extra work and expense that may be needed to fix errors after that stage, mean that you have to be very sure that everything is right before you say the pages are "camera ready". -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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Well, the printer I use now has this wonderfully computerized guillotine
that I am happy to watch him use. It has all kinds of modern OSHA-approved safety protections, of course. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... My grandfather (and father) was a printer also so I had the same childhood experiences of wandering around his premises - and that guillotine used to give me nightmares. Even today I would not wish to go near such a device 50 years on and I can still smell the hot lead, ink and paper dust. Happy days -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: You make me quite envious. I was always intrigued by the way things were done in proper setups, but I never had the equipment myself (or really any need for it, since I was producing only MS). But my grandfather was a printer, so I did get to have my name cast in Linotype every summer, wander amongst the presses, play with the perforating machine, watch the folder (whose operations were nothing short of miraculous, but too rapid to fathom), and (as sternly warned) stay strictly clear of the guillotine. "Margaret Aldis" wrote in message ... LOL - this thread certainly brought back some memories :-). In the 1970s ICL provided cans of rubber cement for the odd occasions when the authors did their own CRC. I can remember a colleague literally falling over in hysterics at the end of a long afternoon pasting in pictures of data entry forms. (I also remember when the cleaners, searching for coins or snacks in someone's top drawer, left a poorly lidded can on its side ... ). When we got into CRC in a big way here in the 80s we quickly found that sticking graphics into hundreds of pages of troff output and meeting printers' deadlines demanded a proper scalpel, wax roller kit and a home-made light box. By that stage we had an artist producing graphics on the Mac and had left the Rotring and the Letraset behind - I think the Letraset finally got thrown out when it started spattering tiny shards in the drawer with the slide rule! -- Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I did this only in an amateurish sort of way. I used rubber cement, too, though also flirted with glue sticks and spray adhesive and roll-on adhesives of various sorts. It would have helped tremendously to have a light box, something I acquired only after my need for it was largely over (I had to depend on eyeballing and windowpanes). But my paste-ups were not for CRC--just manuscripts. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jezebel" wrote in message ... Rubber cement was a buzz, indeed, (although I have grave doubts about the quality your cannabis!) ... but a waxing machine was what the pros all used. I'll bet your Letraset's lost all its serifs by now. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... You used wax? We used rubber cement -- almost as much fun as cannabis! We had a little photosetter for headlines, but we did use tons of Letraset for labeling illustrations. I still have a box of it tucked away under my desk (not far from the slide rule). -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:57:20 +1100, "Jezebel" wrote: Not nearly as much fun, though. Don't you miss the smell of wax, or all those hours spent Letrasetting the headings? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... In the "olden days" when I created documents on a typewriter, CRC was routinely "shot down" because typewriter text was large and ungainly and illustrations that weren't necessarily perfect were enhanced by reduction. In those days, graphs, drawings, photographs, etc., had to be pasted up on the CRC. If you'd ever visited a newspaper or an ad agency, you would have seen people "making up pages" in this way. Creating a document using page layout software (or even word processing software such as Word) is exponentially easier than it was in those days! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "C Tate" wrote in message ... Thank you both very much indeed for such helpful replies. Is there anything I can refer to to learn even more about this? (It sounds like just making sure your document is perfect for the camera though there are sometimes other considerations such as the CRC being a fixed percentage larger than the ultimate output). "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... C Tate wrote: Hope this doesn't seem a slightly off the wall question! But if somebody asks for 'camera ready copy' in Word what exactly do they mean?!!!! In offset printing (the cheapest, easiest method), someone uses a press camera to take a picture of each original page. Through several steps the negative from that camera is used to make printing plates that apply ink to sheets of paper. The original page is "camera ready" when it contains all the text and graphics that should be in the final printing, and nothing else. (Technically, since the film in the press camera is insensitive to light blue, it's possible to write comments on camera ready pages with light blue pencil. This is usually allowed only in the margins, though.) It means a spell-check has been done, all corrections have been made, all fonts and formatting are in place, headers and footers are included, etc. This isn't exclusively a Word thing -- in fact, once you've used the computer printer to put a Word document on paper, it doesn't matter whether the pages came from Word or from Mars. In fact, I would never say that a document is "camera ready" while it exists only as an electronic document. The amount of work needed to convert camera ready copy into printing plates, and the extra work and expense that may be needed to fix errors after that stage, mean that you have to be very sure that everything is right before you say the pages are "camera ready". -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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Now you are making me envious ;-) I think ICL was still on hot type for the
manuals printed 'properly' (as opposed to rubber glued masters for short runs) when I first joined, but I didn't ever get to see the print works. (If things were urgent enough, authors travelled to Letchworth to do their page proofing and indexing while the presses waited, but mine all had relatively leisurely turn round.) As far as a proper equipment was concerned - well, we did find the wax roller a really worthwhile investment, but the 'studio' was a converted outhouse, the cutting board borrowed from the kitchen, and the working bench the top of the chest freezer ;-) -- Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... You make me quite envious. I was always intrigued by the way things were done in proper setups, but I never had the equipment myself (or really any need for it, since I was producing only MS). But my grandfather was a printer, so I did get to have my name cast in Linotype every summer, wander amongst the presses, play with the perforating machine, watch the folder (whose operations were nothing short of miraculous, but too rapid to fathom), and (as sternly warned) stay strictly clear of the guillotine. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Margaret Aldis" wrote in message ... LOL - this thread certainly brought back some memories :-). In the 1970s ICL provided cans of rubber cement for the odd occasions when the authors did their own CRC. I can remember a colleague literally falling over in hysterics at the end of a long afternoon pasting in pictures of data entry forms. (I also remember when the cleaners, searching for coins or snacks in someone's top drawer, left a poorly lidded can on its side ... ). When we got into CRC in a big way here in the 80s we quickly found that sticking graphics into hundreds of pages of troff output and meeting printers' deadlines demanded a proper scalpel, wax roller kit and a home-made light box. By that stage we had an artist producing graphics on the Mac and had left the Rotring and the Letraset behind - I think the Letraset finally got thrown out when it started spattering tiny shards in the drawer with the slide rule! -- Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I did this only in an amateurish sort of way. I used rubber cement, too, though also flirted with glue sticks and spray adhesive and roll-on adhesives of various sorts. It would have helped tremendously to have a light box, something I acquired only after my need for it was largely over (I had to depend on eyeballing and windowpanes). But my paste-ups were not for CRC--just manuscripts. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jezebel" wrote in message ... Rubber cement was a buzz, indeed, (although I have grave doubts about the quality your cannabis!) ... but a waxing machine was what the pros all used. I'll bet your Letraset's lost all its serifs by now. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... You used wax? We used rubber cement -- almost as much fun as cannabis! We had a little photosetter for headlines, but we did use tons of Letraset for labeling illustrations. I still have a box of it tucked away under my desk (not far from the slide rule). -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:57:20 +1100, "Jezebel" wrote: Not nearly as much fun, though. Don't you miss the smell of wax, or all those hours spent Letrasetting the headings? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message .. . In the "olden days" when I created documents on a typewriter, CRC was routinely "shot down" because typewriter text was large and ungainly and illustrations that weren't necessarily perfect were enhanced by reduction. In those days, graphs, drawings, photographs, etc., had to be pasted up on the CRC. If you'd ever visited a newspaper or an ad agency, you would have seen people "making up pages" in this way. Creating a document using page layout software (or even word processing software such as Word) is exponentially easier than it was in those days! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "C Tate" wrote in message ... Thank you both very much indeed for such helpful replies. Is there anything I can refer to to learn even more about this? (It sounds like just making sure your document is perfect for the camera though there are sometimes other considerations such as the CRC being a fixed percentage larger than the ultimate output). "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... C Tate wrote: Hope this doesn't seem a slightly off the wall question! But if somebody asks for 'camera ready copy' in Word what exactly do they mean?!!!! In offset printing (the cheapest, easiest method), someone uses a press camera to take a picture of each original page. Through several steps the negative from that camera is used to make printing plates that apply ink to sheets of paper. The original page is "camera ready" when it contains all the text and graphics that should be in the final printing, and nothing else. (Technically, since the film in the press camera is insensitive to light blue, it's possible to write comments on camera ready pages with light blue pencil. This is usually allowed only in the margins, though.) It means a spell-check has been done, all corrections have been made, all fonts and formatting are in place, headers and footers are included, etc. This isn't exclusively a Word thing -- in fact, once you've used the computer printer to put a Word document on paper, it doesn't matter whether the pages came from Word or from Mars. In fact, I would never say that a document is "camera ready" while it exists only as an electronic document. The amount of work needed to convert camera ready copy into printing plates, and the extra work and expense that may be needed to fix errors after that stage, mean that you have to be very sure that everything is right before you say the pages are "camera ready". -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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And there was me thinking I had asked a dumb question!
"Margaret Aldis" wrote in message ... Now you are making me envious ;-) I think ICL was still on hot type for the manuals printed 'properly' (as opposed to rubber glued masters for short runs) when I first joined, but I didn't ever get to see the print works. (If things were urgent enough, authors travelled to Letchworth to do their page proofing and indexing while the presses waited, but mine all had relatively leisurely turn round.) As far as a proper equipment was concerned - well, we did find the wax roller a really worthwhile investment, but the 'studio' was a converted outhouse, the cutting board borrowed from the kitchen, and the working bench the top of the chest freezer ;-) -- Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... You make me quite envious. I was always intrigued by the way things were done in proper setups, but I never had the equipment myself (or really any need for it, since I was producing only MS). But my grandfather was a printer, so I did get to have my name cast in Linotype every summer, wander amongst the presses, play with the perforating machine, watch the folder (whose operations were nothing short of miraculous, but too rapid to fathom), and (as sternly warned) stay strictly clear of the guillotine. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Margaret Aldis" wrote in message ... LOL - this thread certainly brought back some memories :-). In the 1970s ICL provided cans of rubber cement for the odd occasions when the authors did their own CRC. I can remember a colleague literally falling over in hysterics at the end of a long afternoon pasting in pictures of data entry forms. (I also remember when the cleaners, searching for coins or snacks in someone's top drawer, left a poorly lidded can on its side ... ). When we got into CRC in a big way here in the 80s we quickly found that sticking graphics into hundreds of pages of troff output and meeting printers' deadlines demanded a proper scalpel, wax roller kit and a home-made light box. By that stage we had an artist producing graphics on the Mac and had left the Rotring and the Letraset behind - I think the Letraset finally got thrown out when it started spattering tiny shards in the drawer with the slide rule! -- Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I did this only in an amateurish sort of way. I used rubber cement, too, though also flirted with glue sticks and spray adhesive and roll-on adhesives of various sorts. It would have helped tremendously to have a light box, something I acquired only after my need for it was largely over (I had to depend on eyeballing and windowpanes). But my paste-ups were not for CRC--just manuscripts. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jezebel" wrote in message ... Rubber cement was a buzz, indeed, (although I have grave doubts about the quality your cannabis!) ... but a waxing machine was what the pros all used. I'll bet your Letraset's lost all its serifs by now. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... You used wax? We used rubber cement -- almost as much fun as cannabis! We had a little photosetter for headlines, but we did use tons of Letraset for labeling illustrations. I still have a box of it tucked away under my desk (not far from the slide rule). -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:57:20 +1100, "Jezebel" wrote: Not nearly as much fun, though. Don't you miss the smell of wax, or all those hours spent Letrasetting the headings? "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message .. . In the "olden days" when I created documents on a typewriter, CRC was routinely "shot down" because typewriter text was large and ungainly and illustrations that weren't necessarily perfect were enhanced by reduction. In those days, graphs, drawings, photographs, etc., had to be pasted up on the CRC. If you'd ever visited a newspaper or an ad agency, you would have seen people "making up pages" in this way. Creating a document using page layout software (or even word processing software such as Word) is exponentially easier than it was in those days! -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "C Tate" wrote in message ... Thank you both very much indeed for such helpful replies. Is there anything I can refer to to learn even more about this? (It sounds like just making sure your document is perfect for the camera though there are sometimes other considerations such as the CRC being a fixed percentage larger than the ultimate output). "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... C Tate wrote: Hope this doesn't seem a slightly off the wall question! But if somebody asks for 'camera ready copy' in Word what exactly do they mean?!!!! In offset printing (the cheapest, easiest method), someone uses a press camera to take a picture of each original page. Through several steps the negative from that camera is used to make printing plates that apply ink to sheets of paper. The original page is "camera ready" when it contains all the text and graphics that should be in the final printing, and nothing else. (Technically, since the film in the press camera is insensitive to light blue, it's possible to write comments on camera ready pages with light blue pencil. This is usually allowed only in the margins, though.) It means a spell-check has been done, all corrections have been made, all fonts and formatting are in place, headers and footers are included, etc. This isn't exclusively a Word thing -- in fact, once you've used the computer printer to put a Word document on paper, it doesn't matter whether the pages came from Word or from Mars. In fact, I would never say that a document is "camera ready" while it exists only as an electronic document. The amount of work needed to convert camera ready copy into printing plates, and the extra work and expense that may be needed to fix errors after that stage, mean that you have to be very sure that everything is right before you say the pages are "camera ready". -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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